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GTABlackKnight

Best Rappers and Worst Rappers

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GTABlackKnight

everyone has different opinions about who's the best or worst rapper ever. here's my opinion...

 

 

Best Rappers:

13. Wu-Tang Clan- they brought the gangsta in the East Coast.

12. Busta Rhymes- one of the craziest emcees ever.

11. Run DMC- they made hip-hop mainstream.

10. Missy Elliott- best female rapper ever.

9. Ludacris, T.I., Outkast, UGK, Geto Boys- the only Southern rappers with good songs.

8. Snoop Dogg- he's a gangsta/pimp and represented the West Coast ALL the way, even though he's losing street credibility today.

7. LL Cool J- the ultimate ladies' man and hip-hop pioneer.

6. Nas, Rakim, KRS-One- exceptional lyricists.

5. Notorious B.I.G.- crazy flow and an East Coast legend.

4. Tupac- a hip-hop icon and is always real about sh*t.

3. N.W.A.- the best emcees were in this group (Eazy-E, Ice Cube, Dr. Dre, MC Ren).

2. Lupe Fiasco, Drake, Kid Cudi, B.o.B.- they're saving hip-hop from the wack-ass sh*t it is today.

1. Eminem- dope emcee and untouchable flow second to none. he always stayed real from Infinite to Recovery. 80 million albums? what rapper's doing that? None tounge.gif

 

 

Worst Rappers

 

5. Lil Wayne and Young Money/Cash Money- they're all garbage (except for Drake, who actually has talent, but is hanging with the wrong crowd).

4. Roscoe Dash- his voice is annoying and he looks gay.

3. New Boyz and any jerkin rapper- they f*cked up the West Coast's image with their gay-ass, bright-colored skinny pants and all they rap about is jerkin. i hope in about 5-10 years, they and jerkin will be forgotten for another stupid fad.

2. Waka Flocka Flame- "O Let's Do It?!" This is a f*cking joke, right? No talent at ALL. Make me sick every time I hear his retarded ass.

1. Soulja Boy- this nigga single-handedly KILLED the soul and art of hip-hop. All he makes is club songs lacking creativity and pop songs. he's trying to be something he's not.

 

 

who do you think are the best and worst rappers in the game? make a list of any number of rappers and give a reason why you chose them.

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jimmy.

^ i think that's a really sh*tty list

 

i'm lazy so i'll keep it short. these are just the first in my head, but it's not a complete list.

 

Best - Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane

Worst - Vanilla Ice, Joe Pesci

 

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Bartleby

Best rapper:

 

user posted image

 

Denny "Blazin'" Hazen (this is non-negotiable)

 

But a list of some rappers that I think come close:

 

Ice-T

MC Serch (with Prime Minister Pete Nice)

Ice Cube

Chuck D

Dr. Dre

Kool Moe Dee

Snoop Dogg

 

Worst rapper?

 

user posted image

 

"Macho Man" Randy Savage

 

 

 

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Sunrise Driver

Best - Chuck D, Premier (Gang Starr), Dr.Dre, Ice Cube.

Worst - Snoop Dogg, 50 Cent, Lil Wayne.

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Spinach

 

 

Worst rapper?

 

user posted image

 

"Macho Man" Randy Savage

 

 

 

 

 

His entire album can be forgiven just because of that interview.

 

And this

 

 

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stinomontana

good

mac dre

too short

dr dre

snoop dogg

the game

bun b

jadakiss

biggie

nas

eazy e

ice cube

daz dillinger

wutang

m.o.p.

 

worst

soldja boy

lil wayne

lil bruce

lil boosie or whateverthef*ck his name is

50cent (his new sh*t sucks)

tony yayo

loyd banks

 

 

 

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Ats.
Worst - Snoop Dogg

What?!

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Vanilla Shake
user posted image

Average Homeboy is dope, yo.

 

But yeah, Nas is the best in my opinion, behind only Denny Haze. Of course, my list of good rappers is of course the typical classics (Tupac, NWA, Ice Cube, old Snoop Dogg, Kool G Rap, DJ Polo, etc.). I also enjoy...

 

-Atmosphere

-Eazy-E

-Gang Starr

-Immortal Technique

-(some) Jay-Z

-Jedi Mind Tricks

-Jurassic 5

-K'naan

-M.O.P.

-MF DOOM

-Noreaga

-Notoriois B.I.G.

-People Under the Stairs

-The Pharcyde

-Public Enemy

-The Roots

-Run-D.M.C.

-UNKLE

-Viktor Vaughn

-Wu-Tang Clan

-Z-Trip

-and more

 

I can't get into the rap that I can't stand. I don't even want to think about it.

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The Guru

My top 2 would be Nas and Eminem. And who ever said that worst was Snoop Dogg has to f*cking listen to some of his songs again.

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Canofceleri

Well, best/favorite rappers/acts...

 

Nas (Illmatic, of course)

Tribe Called Quest

Dizzee Rascal (boy in da corner)

Madvillain

Company Flow

Wu-Tang (36 chambers)

GZA (^)

Beastie Boys (Paul's Boutique)

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Saggy

I don't really have too much to say except

 

Notorious BIG > Tupac

 

Jay Z > Nas

 

And Snoop Dog totally f*cking sucks.

 

Oh, and for you Eminem fans, here's the best song he ever did:

 

 

 

Anyway, some of my favorites.

 

Benefit

 

 

Krumbz

 

 

 

I wish more of his tracks were up on YouTube.

 

Tech N9ne.

 

 

 

 

Proof

 

 

Notorious BIG

 

 

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OH NO
And Snoop Dog totally f*cking sucks.

So Doggystyle isnt now one of the greatest hip hop albums ever recorded?

 

 

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Canofceleri
Jay Z > Nas

 

Maybe overall, maybe... but I haven't heard anything from Jay that touches Illmatic.

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The-King
Best - Premier (Gang Starr)

Wait, what?

 

In my eyes the two best are Tonedeff and Kid Cudi for completely different reasons. Tonedeff is without a doubt in my mind the most lyrically talented Emcee I've ever seen. Cudi on the other hand manages to make every piece of music he does amazing in one way or another, his range for creating different levels of Rap is unsurpassed and his style one of the most unique I've ever heard.

 

~TK~

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OH NO

 

Jay Z > Nas

 

Maybe overall, maybe... but I haven't heard anything from Jay that touches Illmatic.

In terms of success and what hes done with the chances he had, Jay easily. He stepped into the void that BIG and pac left and is now one of the only rappers that sells. Hes also known for a lot of dope double entendres..and basically, the guy can rap. I barely listen to much of this guy but i fully admit that.

 

In terms of content, lyrical diversity..and overall skill imo, Nas. But then you have to argue whether nas actually knows what hes talking about in a lot of his later work (hes been outed more than once as talking nonsense in relation to African heritage etc)

 

conceptually though, there arent many jay records that can hold a torch to these

 

 

 

 

god damn it still gives me chills

 

 

 

 

 

 

this topic is bullsh*t though

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Saggy
Best - Premier (Gang Starr)

Wait, what?

 

In my eyes the two best are Tonedeff and Kid Cudi for completely different reasons. Tonedeff is without a doubt in my mind the most lyrically talented Emcee I've ever seen. Cudi on the other hand manages to make every piece of music he does amazing in one way or another, his range for creating different levels of Rap is unsurpassed and his style one of the most unique I've ever heard.

 

~TK~

I think I can second that thing about Tonedeff, even though I've never heard one of this actual solo works.

 

(First verse)

 

 

OH NO, I suppose if you like Snoop Dogg it is.

 

 

I don't really give a sh*t what a rapper is saying, it's how he says it that matters to me. I've never really thought Nas had very great flow or lyrics, always seemed to be more of one of those "rappers with a message". I don't particularly like Jay-Z, I just always see the Nas vs. Jay-Z thing.

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OH NO

 

OH NO, I suppose if you like Snoop Dogg it is.

 

 

 

Nah mate, its univerally considered one of the greatest hip hop albums ever put out, with some of DREs best work and Snoop when he actually could spit. Theres really no argument. Not even mentioning The Chronic, which changed the face of West Coast hip hop, and which snoop was a large part of.

 

 

 

I don't really give a sh*t what a rapper is saying, it's how he says it that matters to me.  I've never really thought Nas had very great flow or lyrics, always seemed to be more of one of those "rappers with a message".  I don't particularly like Jay-Z, I just always see the Nas vs. Jay-Z thing.

 

Fair comment. Ghostface is my favourite mc, he made a whole album just talking fly sh*t.

 

example

 

 

 

but, nas, with no flow... or lyrics. No offence but thats nonsense. Illmatic is flow and lyrics. You also seem to have contradicted yourself there.

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OH NO, I suppose if you like Snoop Dogg it is.

 

 

 

Nah mate, its univerally considered one of the greatest hip hop albums ever put out, with some of DREs best work and Snoop when he actually could spit. Theres really no argument. Not even mentioning The Chronic, which changed the face of West Coast hip hop, and which snoop was a large part of.

 

 

 

I don't really give a sh*t what a rapper is saying, it's how he says it that matters to me.  I've never really thought Nas had very great flow or lyrics, always seemed to be more of one of those "rappers with a message".  I don't particularly like Jay-Z, I just always see the Nas vs. Jay-Z thing.

 

Fair comment. Ghostface is my favourite mc, he made a whole album just talking fly sh*t.

 

example

 

 

 

but, nas, with no flow... or lyrics. No offence but thats nonsense. Illmatic is flow and lyrics. You also seem to have contradicted yourself there.

Where did I contradict myself?

 

You do realize flow and lyrics are subjective opinions, right?

 

To me Nas has as much flow as a kinked garden hose, and his simplistic AB/AB ryhme style leaves a lot to be desired for me. Check out some of the people I posted, that's mostly the style I like. Tech N9ne in particular has the flow/rhyme styles I like the most.

 

Come to think of it, I don't even really like Jay-Z that much, my favorite song of his is a remix.

 

 

 

 

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OH NO

 

Where did I contradict myself?

 

You do realize flow and lyrics are subjective opinions, right? 

 

To me Nas has as much flow as a kinked garden hose, and his simplistic AB/AB ryhme style leaves a lot to be desired for me.  Check out some of the people I posted, that's mostly the style I like.  Tech N9ne in particular has the flow/rhyme styles I like the most.

 

Come to think of it, I don't even really like Jay-Z that much, my favorite song of his is a remix.

 

 

You contradicted yourself by saying you dont care what a rapper is saying, but then stating that you thought of nas as someone with a message.

 

Yes I realise they are subjective.

 

and nas doesnt have an ab/ab rhyme scheme at all, what are you talking about? Illmatic, as one example, is one of the greatest examples of flow and lyrics in hip hop to this day. Often imitated never duplicated. Just because tech 9 spits like he has a mouth full of vowels doesnt mean f*ck all, it can take a few listens to understand exactly what hes saying, whereas nas is the epitome of flow and enunciation. It wouldnt even surprise me if illmatic was a major influence on tech 9 anyway..jay z readily admits it influenced him. Eminem made infinite, which ripped illmatic era nas (and az)..they are the two biggest artists in hip hop today.

 

 

faster does not mean better, if so, Twista would be the greatest rapper alive.

 

and these are not ab/ab rhyme schemes

 

 

 

"I woke up early on my born day, I'm twenty years of blessing

The essence of adolescent leaves my body now I'm fresh in

My physical frame is celebrated cause I made it

One quarter through life some God-ly like thing created

Got rhymes 365 days annual plus some

Load up the mic and bust one, cuss while I puffs from

my skull cause it's pain in my brain vein money maintain

Don't go against the grain simple and plain

When I was young at this I used to do my thing hard

Droppin foreigners take they wallets they jewels and rip they green cards

Dipped to the projects flashin my quick cash

and got my first piece of ass smokin blunts with hash

Now it's all about cash in abundance, niggaz I used to run with

is rich or doin years in the hundreds

I switched my motto -- instead of sayin f*ck tommorrow

That buck that bought a bottle could've struck the lotto"

 

 

"Through the lights cameras and action, glamour glitters and gold

I unfold the scroll, plant seeds to stampede the globe

When I'm deceased, by then the beast arise like yeast

to conquer peace leaving savages to roam in the streets

Live on the run, police paying me to give in my gun

Trick my Wisdom, with the system that imprisoned my son

Smoke a gold leaf I hold heat, nonchalantly

I'm grungy, but things I do is real it never haunts me

while, funny style niggaz roll in the pile

Rooster heads profile on a bus to Riker's Isle

Holdin weed inside they pussy with they minds on the

pretty things in life, props is a true thug's wife

It's like a cycle, niggaz come home, some'll go in

Do a bullet, come back, do the same sh*t again

From the womb to the tomb, presume the unpredictable

Guns salute life, rapidly, that's the ritual"

 

 

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UrbanTheEmcee

 

Jay Z > Nas

 

Maybe overall, maybe... but I haven't heard anything from Jay that touches Illmatic.

Reasonable Doubt is just as good as Illmatic. Reasonable doubt tells a better story, and Jay gets just as lyrical too. Illmatic was just Nas in his rawest state of mind telling a story of his surroundings. Jay-Z breaks Reasonable Doubt down like a good gangsta flick, accept it's about his actual life. So I connect much more with Reasonable Doubt, but Illmatic is still a classic.

 

on topic:

 

(Best)

 

1. Lupe Fiasco (too complex/too lyrical/too nice)

2. Jay-Z (old/some new)

3. Eminem (old/some new)

4. Kanye West (no autotune)

5. Biggie/Big L (raw with the lyrics)

6. Nas (old/rarely new)

7. Rakim/Tupac (hit & miss/thought provoking)

8. Ice Cube (old/no new)

9. Twista (old/Adrenaline Rush is crushing most artist lyrically)

10. 50 cent/The Game/ Drake (old/rarely new)

 

(Best Groups)

 

1. Tribe Called Quest

2. Camp Lo

3. Outkast

 

(Best Females)

 

1. Mia-X

2. Foxy Brown

3. Jean Grey

 

(worst)

 

1. Soulja Boy

2. Waka Floka Flame

3. P. Diddy

4. Lil Bow Wow

5. Lil Boosie/Lil Webbie

6. Gucci Mane

7. Rich Boi

8. Easy-E

9. Snoop Dogg (Everything after Doggystyle)

10. Lil Wayne

 

In My Opinion sly.gif

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joemcg15

Best:

1.Rakim

2.Nas

3.Notorious B.I.G.

4.Jay-Z

5.Big L

6.Ice Cube

7.Ghostface Killah

8.Raekwon

9.Krs-One

10.Grandmaster Flash

11.Eminem

12.Common

13.Mobb Deep

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Best:

1.Rakim

2.Nas

3.Notorious B.I.G.

4.Jay-Z

5.Big L

6.Ice Cube

7.Ghostface Killah

8.Raekwon

9.Krs-One

10.Grandmaster Flash

11.Eminem

12.Common

13.Mobb Deep

Nice list, even though I would switch some of those positions around, and kick about three people off it. East Coast will always dominate most of my lists.

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Saggy

 

Where did I contradict myself?

 

You do realize flow and lyrics are subjective opinions, right? 

 

To me Nas has as much flow as a kinked garden hose, and his simplistic AB/AB ryhme style leaves a lot to be desired for me.  Check out some of the people I posted, that's mostly the style I like.  Tech N9ne in particular has the flow/rhyme styles I like the most.

 

Come to think of it, I don't even really like Jay-Z that much, my favorite song of his is a remix.

 

 

You contradicted yourself by saying you dont care what a rapper is saying, but then stating that you thought of nas as someone with a message.

 

Yes I realise they are subjective.

 

and nas doesnt have an ab/ab rhyme scheme at all, what are you talking about? Illmatic, as one example, is one of the greatest examples of flow and lyrics in hip hop to this day. Often imitated never duplicated. Just because tech 9 spits like he has a mouth full of vowels doesnt mean f*ck all, it can take a few listens to understand exactly what hes saying, whereas nas is the epitome of flow and enunciation. It wouldnt even surprise me if illmatic was a major influence on tech 9 anyway..jay z readily admits it influenced him. Eminem made infinite, which ripped illmatic era nas (and az)..they are the two biggest artists in hip hop today.

 

 

faster does not mean better, if so, Twista would be the greatest rapper alive.

 

and these are not ab/ab rhyme schemes

 

 

 

"I woke up early on my born day, I'm twenty years of blessing

The essence of adolescent leaves my body now I'm fresh in

My physical frame is celebrated cause I made it

One quarter through life some God-ly like thing created

Got rhymes 365 days annual plus some

Load up the mic and bust one, cuss while I puffs from

my skull cause it's pain in my brain vein money maintain

Don't go against the grain simple and plain

When I was young at this I used to do my thing hard

Droppin foreigners take they wallets they jewels and rip they green cards

Dipped to the projects flashin my quick cash

and got my first piece of ass smokin blunts with hash

Now it's all about cash in abundance, niggaz I used to run with

is rich or doin years in the hundreds

I switched my motto -- instead of sayin f*ck tommorrow

That buck that bought a bottle could've struck the lotto"

 

 

"Through the lights cameras and action, glamour glitters and gold

I unfold the scroll, plant seeds to stampede the globe

When I'm deceased, by then the beast arise like yeast

to conquer peace leaving savages to roam in the streets

Live on the run, police paying me to give in my gun

Trick my Wisdom, with the system that imprisoned my son

Smoke a gold leaf I hold heat, nonchalantly

I'm grungy, but things I do is real it never haunts me

while, funny style niggaz roll in the pile

Rooster heads profile on a bus to Riker's Isle

Holdin weed inside they pussy with they minds on the

pretty things in life, props is a true thug's wife

It's like a cycle, niggaz come home, some'll go in

Do a bullet, come back, do the same sh*t again

From the womb to the tomb, presume the unpredictable

Guns salute life, rapidly, that's the ritual"

How is that a contradiction though? As i said, I don't really care for the "messages" that a rapper sends, and to me Nas has always been more about some kind of message than about having sick flows or rhymes. I'm more interested in how a rapper actually rhymes than what he's saying.

 

Been a while since I've discussed rhyming schemes, so I don't know if ab/ab is right, but I don't like rhyming schemes where you ryhme one syllable per bar, and I don't really care to hear anything that Nas actually has to say so I couldn't care less if he "enunciates"--and even then I don't really like it when rappers tend to rhyme the same syllable over multiple bars like he does. I suppose I listen to rap for different reasons, I like how people like Tech N9ne mix multiple syllables into more complex because it makes the actual music more enjoyable. I mean, sorry, but a beat with two kicks a snare with one syllable rhymed per bar just sounds lame to me.

 

It's not just about speed, did you listen to the other guys that I posted above? Benefit or Krumbz for example. I like the sh*t to be filled with more things like word play, multiple syllables rhymed, etc. I mean, sorry, but Nas just bores me, even in some of the instances where his rhyme scheme is a little bit more complex than one syllable per line, but then he always screws up his flow in order to make something "make sense" Meanwhile I've heard plenty of other rappers get their messages across just fine without half-assing their rhymes for the sake of getting the point across.

 

 

Frankly I'm just not interested in hearing some "gangsta" story or whatever Nas really has to say, whether it's some kind of message or some kind of story, I just don't like that style.

 

It's not that I'm really hating on Nas, I just don't follow the general conventions of, "Oh, this guy is the greatest," I like what I like.

 

Found a song from Nas which is more along the lines of what I'd like to hear.

 

 

 

Hear is one I like the style of a little less (though it's basically the same aside from the beat and the tempo), but still more than the ones you posted

 

 

 

One thing I can point out in "Take it in Blood" that bothers me a lot when I hear it, is that he ends a bar on a word that doesn't ryhme with the last at all, and it just sticks out like a big sore thumb in the progression of things. In this one it's when he says "executioner". I marked the ryhmes.

 

"Yo; I never brag, how real I keep(a) it(b), cause it's the best se(a)cret(b)

I rock a vest, presti(a)gious(b), Cuban link flooded Je(a)sus(b)

in a Lex watchin Kathie Lee and Re(a)gis(b)

My actions are one with the sea(a)sons(b)

A tec squee(a)zin(b)"

 

Breaks the timing a little bit here

 

"execution(a)er(b), winter time I rock a(a) fur(b)

Mega popu(a)lar(b), center of attract(a)ion(b)

Climax(a)in(b), my bitches they be laugh(a)in(b)

They high from sniffin coke off a twenty-cent Andrew Jack(a)son(b)"

 

f*cks up the timing hugely there, and the rhymes seemed really forced most of the time.

 

 

When I compare it to someone like Techn N9ne that is trying to fill in every measure he can with consistently amount of syllables, and lots of them, it just winds up sounding more musical to me. Like I said before, it's all subjective, so I'm not trying to say Nas has bad flow. Just not the flow I like.

 

On the other hand you already said you like it when it comes out making sense, so I doubt you mind the forced rhymes and the off-times as much.

 

 

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epoxi

NDubz

 

...guess which end of the spectrum they sit.

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Vanilla Shake

I don't care what anyone says, this is a classic.

 

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SBSkater

Best (no particular order and from the top of my head):

Nas

*Old* Jay Z

Souls of Mischief

Pharcyde

Kool G rap

*Old* Ice Cube

MF Doom

Gangstarr

D.O.C

Wu Tang Clan

N.W.A

A Tribe Called Quest

Digable Planets

 

Worst:

Eazy E

Mac Dre

Snoop Dogg

Soulja boy

Lil Wayne

T.I.

Gucci mane

Drake

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Rockworm

I'm probably gonna get hated for this but I don't really like rap.... I do like Eminem though

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Canofceleri

Good choice, Vanilla Shake.

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Not Volt Krueger

All rap sucks and is majoritively writer-produced. And even when it's not every song is ft ft they need 5 other people just to make a mediocre record.

On top of all that the Rap industry is racist as f*ck and gets away with it - where if a white industry was denying black people just because they're black there would be a f*cken uproar.

 

sh*tty repetitive music, lazy artist with half their material not even written by them, and racist anticts. There's nothing good about rap.

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All rap sucks and is majoritively writer-produced. And even when it's not every song is ft ft they need 5 other people just to make a mediocre record.

On top of all that the Rap industry is racist as f*ck and gets away with it - where if a white industry was denying black people just because they're black there would be a f*cken uproar.

 

sh*tty repetitive music, lazy artist with half their material not even written by them, and racist anticts. There's nothing good about rap.

That was pretty bad ass coming into a topic about rap and saying it sucks. Where did you learn to be so damn awesome?

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