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Corndawg93

Last 10 minutes of this episode were the only good minutes of it. It felt like absolutely nothing of consequence was happening up until the car chase and Shiva's death. Glad to see Negan coming back next week.

 

Fu*k you whoever wrote this episode.

 

 

Poor Shiva

 

Blame Kirkman. That was straight out of the comics.

If they can rewrite Ricks hand getting chopped off then they could have rewriten Shiva's demise

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chronic lumbago

Last 10 minutes of this episode were the only good minutes of it. It felt like absolutely nothing of consequence was happening up until the car chase and Shiva's death.

 

I have to disagree, it was pretty intense throughout. Maybe nothing of large consequence up until the scenes you mentioned but it's the journey that counts. It's an episode about crushing the King and they managed to do it the exciting way.

 

Finally we had the feeling of despair when hopelessly fighting and fleeing from zombies. We didn't have a scene like this in a long time.

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chronic lumbago

Safe to bump yet? We have 2 episodes to discuss!

 

Episode 5 was amazing, we've seen all different sides of Negan and a lot of tension between the Savior lieutenants.

 

Episode 6 was alright I guess. Nothing made me excited and every single step was too predictable. I knew what's going to happen next all the time. Yawn.

 

Alright, one thing I didn't expect.

 

Darryl smashing a f*cking dump truck into the escaping Saviours. Loved that scene.

 

 

I also thought for a second that

 

Carl was bitten in his arm. I almost sh*t my pants.

 

 

Can we just make the show about the Saviors already?

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TheSpectre

This season is a lot better than the last in my opinion. It just felt like there was so much garbage filler strewn throughout the adaptation of "March to War". Here, in this season, we're right in the middle of "All Out War" and I'm loving it.

 

 

Comic spoilers

 

I'm hoping by the midseason finale we get to Negan's grenade attack on Alexandria. I want to see "All Out War Part Two" concluded by season's end as well. Judging by the flash-forwards in the premiere, we may even reach "A New Beginning". I cannot wait until we get that tense moment where Rick confronts Negan in his cell and Negan talks about how he's only still alive so that Rick feels better about the horrible sh*t he's done.

 

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chronic lumbago

Season 7 had some of the best moments in the show and thinking about episode 1 gives me goosebumps to this day, but sadly they f*cked some episodes up so bad that I simply can't rate it as one of my favorites.

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TheSpectre

Episode 1 of Season 7 may be my favorite in the history of the show. The only other one that comes close is "Too Far Gone" which was when the Governor assaulted the prison a second time and was successful. They completely nailed Negan's real debut, it was even more brutal than it was in the comics. But then the season had to introduce all this boring Oceanside sh*t, episodes that featured only a few characters, and those horrible garbage people.

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D9fred95

I also thought for a second that

 

Carl was bitten in his arm. I almost sh*t my pants.

 

 

Me too, but then I remembered how Robert Kirkman said

 

Carl is the least likely to die so I guess Carl will only get close calls unless it's the series finale or something.

 

 

Also I can't wait for Fear's next season now that we know

 

Morgan's gonna be there. Wonder how they're going to do it. There's going to be at least a timeskip on Fear to make it work.

 

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chronic lumbago

^^

 

I've heard that in the comics, Rick loses either his arm/leg in this season and that they already skipped this part in the show, so I thought Carl gets bitten and he loses his arm instead of Rick in that scene.

 

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TheSpectre

I really, really hate TV Eugene. He's not like comic Eugene, and I can't get into why without entering spoiler territory. Tonight's episode was frustrating. He's all but completely sold himself out to Negan and Team Saviors. Dwight was the only one talking sense and he wouldn't listen to him. Negan can't keep his empire stable forever, it's living on borrowed time.

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darthYENIK

^^

 

I've heard that in the comics, Rick loses either his arm/leg in this season and that they already skipped this part in the show, so I thought Carl gets bitten and he loses his arm instead of Rick in that scene.

 

 

The Governor cuts Ricks hand off in the comic.

 

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chronic lumbago

I can't believe it's almost over again :( I f*cking hate mid season breaks. Hopefully E8 will be double length.

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-Captain-

So far there have been a couple good scenes, but god damn what a disappointment. Both the show and the comics have had their peaks, both have been going down lately in my opinion.

 

If they at least dropped the horrible 16 episode a season format it might become 10 times better. Cut out a whole lot of filler, stop the hard focus on a couple characters each episode. Gotta wait 5 episodes for one character of the main group to show up.

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TheSpectre

^I agree that 16 episodes is too much for a season of this show. I'd rather have even 8 good ones instead of a bunch of filler. When you really think about it, nothing major from the comics has been adapted this season so far aside from the zombie herd trapping the Saviors and Ezekiel's defeat, and we're 7 episodes in. Think about that. Those f*cking walkers have been at the Sanctuary for 7 episodes. Negan hasn't even had the chance to retaliate because the show is taking so damn long to get rid of that herd.

 

Thankfully the mid-season finale looks like it's going to rectify that a little.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnQJVhH0AL8

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iBUCKEYE

Oh....sh*t

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EvolvedWalker

That ending :panic:

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Clancy the Bandito

What. The. f*ck.

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TheSpectre

Chandler Riggs, the actor who plays Carl, has expressed interest in going to college so this twist didn't completely catch me off-guard. I thought it would be a simple matter of replacing Carl's actor after the time jump that was shown in the first episode of the season, but I guess I was wrong. It's been a while since the show's had the balls to do something so drastic. Props to the showrunners. What a great episode.

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D9fred95

There's only one thing that nibbles me the wrong way though.

 

Carl is seen in the flash-forward in the premiere and Kirkman stated that Carl is the least likely to die. Granted, the flash-forward could've been an imagine spot or maybe Rick was just hallucinating Carl being there. Unless Carl is somehow immune but that would be like the dumpster all over again

 

Still, it's a big twist that not even the comics did if I recall.

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Journey_95

Man this show turned to sh*t in the last season and hasn't recovered. Now they even killed off Carl (even though he has a lot of good future stories in the comic) for bullsh*t reasons. Its not because Chandler wanted to go:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/walking-dead-is-carl-going-die-chandler-riggs-exit-interview-1066031

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chronic lumbago

^^Journey. I clicked on this topic but it reminded me that a new episode is out today and quickly went back to avoid any spoilers. So glad I watched it first before returning here, otherwise you would have ruined my day.

 

 

This is the biggest death the show has seen so far, you can't just not spoiler tag it..

 

 

Anyways,

 

 

 

 

I f*cking called it. Be careful what you wish for..

 

Damn son, somebody's cutting onions. I had the suspicion this would happen throughout the whole episode. They made the whole thing pretty obvious, how he was "dancing" throughout Alexandria and how they set up the camera angle in that episode where he fought the walkers. I knew this was coming and still, I couldn't believe it when they've actually shown the bite mark.

 

The conversation between Carl and Negan has to be one of my favorite moments of the show.

 

 

 

All in all, this episode was excellent. I did like how everything played out (except the spoiler, you can't possibly like that). This episode and episode 5 are my favorites of this season.

 

To me, it looks like the series could end pretty soon. Will there even be a reason left to keep watching?

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TheSpectre

I'm actually kind of glad Carl's being killed off. The actor has a kind of one-note performance, has been wearing the same outfit for what feels like 3 or 4 seasons, and is in desperate need of a haircut. They should have hired a much younger actor to play Carl when the series started IMO.

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Dbzk1999

I'm actually kind of glad Carl's being killed off. The actor has a kind of one-note performance, has been wearing the same outfit for what feels like 3 or 4 seasons, and is in desperate need of a haircut. They should have hired a much younger actor to play Carl when the series started IMO.

Uh, how much younger? Wasnt he only 10 when he was cast in the role?

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TheSpectre

Yeah, but what I was getting at is that they could have held onto Carl a bit longer if they had someone who was only 7 or 8 when the show started.

 

In the comics

Carl is only 13 or so in the present time. He's supposed to be just a kid all the way through the end of the All Out War volumes. The actor playing him now is almost an adult now.

 

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iBUCKEYE

Carl a bit longer

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-Captain-

Chandler Riggs, the actor who plays Carl, has expressed interest in going to college so this twist didn't completely catch me off-guard. I thought it would be a simple matter of replacing Carl's actor after the time jump that was shown in the first episode of the season, but I guess I was wrong. It's been a while since the show's had the balls to do something so drastic. Props to the showrunners. What a great episode.

Nope, Gimple actually wanted this. Chandler just bought a house close to the shooting location too. He wasn't even told much in advance.

Comic spoiler below:

 

 

In the comic another character wants to save people etc like Carl has been focused on this season, that character died and that's the reason why Rick didn't kill Negan but rather locked him up "for good". In the show Carl is clearly used for that purpose. Lot of storylines to come are around Carl, but we'll have to see what the show does with that. Might as well skip the whisperers, that was the most lackluster thing in the comic. Cool idea, horrible execution.

 

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TheSpectre

 

Chandler Riggs, the actor who plays Carl, has expressed interest in going to college so this twist didn't completely catch me off-guard. I thought it would be a simple matter of replacing Carl's actor after the time jump that was shown in the first episode of the season, but I guess I was wrong. It's been a while since the show's had the balls to do something so drastic. Props to the showrunners. What a great episode.

Nope, Gimple actually wanted this. Chandler just bought a house close to the shooting location too. He wasn't even told much in advance.

Comic spoiler below:

 

 

In the comic another character wants to save people etc like Carl has been focused on this season, that character died and that's the reason why Rick didn't kill Negan but rather locked him up "for good". In the show Carl is clearly used for that purpose. Lot of storylines to come are around Carl, but we'll have to see what the show does with that. Might as well skip the whisperers, that was the most lackluster thing in the comic. Cool idea, horrible execution.

 

 

 

Gimple sounds like an asshole. I mean the kid just bought a f*cking house and now he's not gonna have any money coming in for his mortgage payments. There was no need to kill off Carl, at least not yet. It seems like some rash move he made to boost their declining ratings and get people talking about the show again.

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chronic lumbago

It wouldn't surprise me if this was the last season. Hell, maybe I would even prefer it. From what I've gathered about the next comic ark, Carl plays a major lore that I was really looking foward to and those whisperers aren't that interesting, especially after the Saviors. I doubt TWD will ever see something better than Negan.

 

I'd rather see the series die this season than see it being turned into total garbage. I think S8 would be a great final season for the show. I could also finally start reading the comics then if there's an online option.

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-Captain-

Even though the ratings are declining and the amount of viewers are dropping they are apparently still making millions and millions with it. Hell, they even started a spin-off a couple years ago. I doubt we will see the series end soon, because many people keep watching it. And Gimple has stated that he has plans to keep going until 2030 and many actors stated they were happy to stay.

 

Couple episodes ago there was a helicopter in the show. That could be a sign of a new arc for season 9, or they skip to the New World order arc that is about to start in the comics. I honestly think skipping the whisperers would be a good thing, could be really cringy in the show. Anyway both the show and the comics have had their peaks most likely, there is only so much they seem to be doing and each arc is kind of the same, but just with a different spin on it. Season 8 could be a good finale considering how it ends in the comics, but I am afraid this is a money maker that's gonna be dragged out for many years to come.

 

Drop the 16 episodes format and thus lose all the useless filler would honestly be a huge improvement. You could honestly just watch the first episode and episode 8 from this season and everything would make sense.

 

 

I'd rather see the series die this season than see it being turned into total garbage. I think S8 would be a great final season for the show. I could also finally start reading the comics then if there's an online option.

 

You can read the issues online for free, just google for it (not the legit way but whatever). I read the first 50 online before I bought compendiums.

 

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D9fred95

 

The whole idea of killing off Carl just so Rick has a reason to spare Negan is so silly. Why didn't they just have Carl get a concussion from one of the many explosions (preferably when the car exploded) and have him go into a coma after reaching the sewers or something. Combine this with Gabriel telling Rick about Negan's past before dying himself and there you go, justification for showing Negan mercy.

 

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BöömBäpper

Apparently stories of twd and ftwd are going to cross in next season of fear the walking dead.

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