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GTA IV Patch 7/EFLC Patch 2


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I am ONLY complaining because with the new settings along with patch 6, the stutter is so heavy, the game is unplayable.

 

You have something that works, and now it doesn't!

I think its ok to complain then.

GTAIV Unplayable? Dude, you run GTAIV on a GTX285 (if it's true what's in your sig) and it stutters? Then you've must have been joked on, because seriously, I know I play on minimun, but it doesn't stutter or anything on a Radeon Mobility HD4200 + AMD Turion II 2.3 GHz. I can even crank some stuff up and still get from 15 to 25 FPS on the game (similar to the console version).

agree.

i played and done GTA IV and its episodes at 1280x1024 resolution with low settings very smooth(+30 FPS)on my rig.no stutter at all.i think you should set settings to lower value.

So I should lower the settings, because Rockstar cant make a patch that actually patch something?

 

All it has done for me is making the game AWFULL due to stutters.

 

How is it possible to ruin a game like that???

 

And I havent' heard sh*t from Rockstar yet!

They got my money, and I can only prey they fix the game.

 

ALL THAT HAVE NOT BOUGHT EFLC, DONT DO IT! Until its fixed.

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Looks like they need to call back your certificate, revoke your technician license and disallow you to come closer than 15meters to any computer that not belongs to you )

 

Can you tell us truth?

Is your certificate stolen or your your twin brother, who actually know something about computers, passed all tests instead of you??  tounge2.gif

 

Man, are you blind??? Go get yourself goggles or something monocle.gif

 

Just install patch 5 over 6 and see the difference!

 

And stop eating placebo pills!

Facts are facts, no matter what you think. I get a smooth 60FPS most of the time. I actually trained my brother on how to use a computer, and I thought computers at a university for a year.

 

Patch 6 wouldn't even let my run the game because of a problem with Social Club, and Patch 5 had issues with the graphics. So far, Patch 7 is the best on my rig.

 

I can't help it if it doesn't work for you, but blaming the game when its actually your computer is a waste of time. Get a computer that can run the game or stop complaining. (Or check your settings cause you have them wrong.)

 

@Simulated AI: I am well aware that there are people having issues. But as I just said, that is because they don't have the right computer of settings for the game. Patch 6/7 changed things. For example: if you could run with High shadows in Patch 5, you have to set it to Medium night shadows in 6/7. They changed what High means between patches because you can have "Very Very High" so they had to raise what "Very High" means.

 

@WindedTrash: Yes the game has some memory issues. That is why I also listed that I have DDR3-TriChannel ram. I don't have pop-in or studdering, and I don't have any commandline options set. Also some memory control is based on the CPU. The i7 and most newer AMDs have memory controllers integrated. So upgrading your CPU also reduces memory latency, causing less memory issues.

 

I'm also aware some people don't want to upgrade their computers. However, to keep up with gaming, they have to. Okay, if you don't want an Intel, get the AMD Phenom II X6. It will work with AM2+ motherboards, and its not that expensive, so anyone with a somewhat newer AMD motherboard should be able to upgrade.

 

Also Winded, I was working on computers when I was 5, so I have no problem with a 14 year old knowing a bit about computers. In fact, I fully encourage it. But I do recommend taking classes on it if that is really something you are into, because without that little piece of paper, no one will take you seriously. (Sadly.)

To keep this in short, what you say is that I have to upgrade for GTA 4 patch 6 & 7 including EFLC.

 

But If I dont upgrade, then I can play fine with GTA 4 patch 5, but no EFLC then.

 

SO SHOULD I UPGRADE BECAUSE ROCKSTAR f*ckED IT UP?

YOU GOT TO BE KIDDIN' ME.

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This topic makes me sad.

Everyone is bashing each others and insults them

with 12-14 years old kids wanting the game play smoothley

or adverstising them to get a better computers or checking the right settings

and or showing off PC's.

 

F**K you @ssholes, keep that sh*t for youself

and keep ontopic where this topic is meant for.

Bashing each other can be done via PM.

 

Ontopic, for the shadows you need 2GB VRAM?

Fior that big amount needing VRAM I dont even doubting to install the patch.

Well done R*, well done for needing too much VRAM only for the shadows.

 

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I have 1GB VRAM and it's pefectly fine. If your card does need VRAM, I think it shares memory from your RAM. Mine usually shares around 1.9GB.

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So let me get this straight, you had problems with Patch 6 in that it wouldn't let you run the game, right ? Does this mean we would have been entitled to tell you to "get a proper computer" then ? After all I never had a problem starting GTA 4 with Patch 6 so going by your logic patch 6 worked for me and it didn't work for you so it must've been your computer. Oh no wait they fixed that problem with a new patch that now makes the game work fine on your PC.

 

Just because patch 7 now makes GTA 4 run fine on your machine does not mean the game isn't broken for others. The fact this game has had to be patched SEVEN TIMES (a new record for a GTA), the fact they have had to completely redo the shadows in the game and the fact after seven patches there are still several outstanding issues as well as new ones does not give you the slightest hint that perhaps it isn't a problem with people's PC's but the rather mediocre effort that has been put into GTA 4 on the PC.

 

When GTA 4 was first released I had no problems running the game, I didn't need any command lines, I never saw a crash and I was scratching my head at people who complained about "memory leaks". With each patch the game has got worse frame rate wise, now today I have to use the memrestrict command to prevent memory leaks and I see graphical glitches all over the place. I guess it must be my PC then sarcasm.gif it's funny how NO other game I play has such appalling performance as GTA 4. After patch 4 this game went rapidly downhill and too a lot of people patch 7 has not improved things all that much.

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My other games run very smooth and good as well, but gta is like a different world of computer gaming: stutter, memory leaks, low framerates; these are all problems i have only encountered with this specific game.

 

Unlike you i did have problems playing this game from the beginning BUT the memory leaking i had in the old patches of gta 4 has not been as bad as with EFLC.

 

R* screwed up and they are embarrassed enough not to reply any posts on this forum or any feedback that people send about this game. I really hope they are going to do something about these problems that we have to suffer only because they screwed up while trying to fix this game.

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@Simulated-AI: Looks like you are really frustrated! TRIPLE-POSTING!

I Have posted more than 3 times on this board wink.gif

 

If you take a closer look, then you can see the posts are different.

 

I wished Rockstar would take a look...

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Then lower your settings and leave me alone. Yes I'm arrogant, but I'm also right. Clearly you have a problem with anyone that doesn't have a problem with GTA IV. Your previous posts show that. Almost every single one of them are trying to start an argument with the same Quote/nonscene/quote format.

 

I just said LOWER YOUR SETTINGS or get a new computer. Not flat out "get a new computer". So yes, if you want to continue this, by all means add another post to your GTA IV forum post count where you don't post anymore.

 

Oh, and the Madcatz problem has been solved btw.

 

For anyone who actually gives a damn about this game anymore, read the post by be before Charlie butted in.

The idea with getting a new computer/lower settings is just stupid!

Should we do this because Rockstar releases a HORRIBLE patch?

 

I dont think so... suicidal.gif

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People stop saying buy new computer or lower settings or sh*t like that because its made clear that the patch 6 and 7 run worse that previous patches.

 

@Simulated-AI you should think about using the EDIT button

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Then lower your settings and leave me alone. Yes I'm arrogant, but I'm also right. Clearly you have a problem with anyone that doesn't have a problem with GTA IV. Your previous posts show that. Almost every single one of them are trying to start an argument with the same Quote/nonscene/quote format.

 

I just said LOWER YOUR SETTINGS or get a new computer. Not flat out "get a new computer". So yes, if you want to continue this, by all means add another post to your GTA IV forum post count where you don't post anymore.

 

Oh, and the Madcatz problem has been solved btw.

 

For anyone who actually gives a damn about this game anymore, read the post by be before Charlie butted in.

The idea with getting a new computer/lower settings is just stupid!

Should we do this because Rockstar releases a HORRIBLE patch?

 

I dont think so... suicidal.gif

Okay, lets say you have 4 settings, Low, Medium, High, and Very High. You release an update that adds on to the Very High setting. What do you call this mode? Very Very High? No, you shift the entire scale slightly. So now what was Low/Medium is now Low, what was Medium/High is now Medium, and what was High/Very High is now High.

 

Now lets say before the update, your computer could only play the game on High. If you tried to run the post-update on High, you'd really be running the pre-update Very High. If you couldn't handle that before, you won't be able to handle it now. What changes is the name, and hence your perception of performance.

 

Its kind of like when McDonald's changed the size of their drinks. 22oz used to be a Small, now its a Medium. The only thing that really changed was the name, and thus the price. Now they get more money for the same amount of product.

 

So when I say lower your settings, I'm really saying to put your settings back to the equivalent. And I'm not telling you to do it anyway, I'm making a suggestion on how to solve your problem. Basically, I'm saying "If you want it to work, try this, or get a more powerful computer." That's not me saying, "Go out and buy a new computer for this one game." The patch's quality has NOTHING to do with my suggestion, and the suggestion itself is not stupid. Both things will work, but if you don't want to do it, you can either complain, which does nothing apparently, or live with it.

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With the new shadow system, Medium setting is not equal to previous High setting, its lower, and thus looks like crap. High shadows make my framerates smaller than smooth 35-50 fps.

 

So what R* did is make the shadows look better which most of us wanted, and thus usage of recsources became bigger, which we did not want. Usage of newer DirectX version could help increase the framerates.

But still R* should have left us the old shadows too if we want to have them instead of lagging our game for better quality.

 

All i want to be fixed right now is memory leaks, stutter, flickering textures from far away, get a choice from old shadows and new shadows. After that i dont need any other patches to this game.

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Then lower your settings and leave me alone. Yes I'm arrogant, but I'm also right. Clearly you have a problem with anyone that doesn't have a problem with GTA IV. Your previous posts show that. Almost every single one of them are trying to start an argument with the same Quote/nonscene/quote format.

 

I just said LOWER YOUR SETTINGS or get a new computer. Not flat out "get a new computer". So yes, if you want to continue this, by all means add another post to your GTA IV forum post count where you don't post anymore.

 

Oh, and the Madcatz problem has been solved btw.

 

For anyone who actually gives a damn about this game anymore, read the post by be before Charlie butted in.

The idea with getting a new computer/lower settings is just stupid!

Should we do this because Rockstar releases a HORRIBLE patch?

 

I dont think so... suicidal.gif

Okay, lets say you have 4 settings, Low, Medium, High, and Very High. You release an update that adds on to the Very High setting. What do you call this mode? Very Very High? No, you shift the entire scale slightly. So now what was Low/Medium is now Low, what was Medium/High is now Medium, and what was High/Very High is now High.

 

Now lets say before the update, your computer could only play the game on High. If you tried to run the post-update on High, you'd really be running the pre-update Very High. If you couldn't handle that before, you won't be able to handle it now. What changes is the name, and hence your perception of performance.

 

Its kind of like when McDonald's changed the size of their drinks. 22oz used to be a Small, now its a Medium. The only thing that really changed was the name, and thus the price. Now they get more money for the same amount of product.

 

So when I say lower your settings, I'm really saying to put your settings back to the equivalent. And I'm not telling you to do it anyway, I'm making a suggestion on how to solve your problem. Basically, I'm saying "If you want it to work, try this, or get a more powerful computer." That's not me saying, "Go out and buy a new computer for this one game." The patch's quality has NOTHING to do with my suggestion, and the suggestion itself is not stupid. Both things will work, but if you don't want to do it, you can either complain, which does nothing apparently, or live with it.

You are so wrong...

 

Even with half change in settings to the lower part, the game still stutters worse before the patch!

 

And again, thats why the patch is on top 10 worlds most useless patches suicidal.gif

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Then lower your settings and leave me alone. Yes I'm arrogant, but I'm also right. Clearly you have a problem with anyone that doesn't have a problem with GTA IV. Your previous posts show that. Almost every single one of them are trying to start an argument with the same Quote/nonscene/quote format.

 

I just said LOWER YOUR SETTINGS or get a new computer. Not flat out "get a new computer". So yes, if you want to continue this, by all means add another post to your GTA IV forum post count where you don't post anymore.

 

Oh, and the Madcatz problem has been solved btw.

 

For anyone who actually gives a damn about this game anymore, read the post by be before Charlie butted in.

The idea with getting a new computer/lower settings is just stupid!

Should we do this because Rockstar releases a HORRIBLE patch?

 

I dont think so... suicidal.gif

Okay, lets say you have 4 settings, Low, Medium, High, and Very High. You release an update that adds on to the Very High setting. What do you call this mode? Very Very High? No, you shift the entire scale slightly. So now what was Low/Medium is now Low, what was Medium/High is now Medium, and what was High/Very High is now High.

 

Now lets say before the update, your computer could only play the game on High. If you tried to run the post-update on High, you'd really be running the pre-update Very High. If you couldn't handle that before, you won't be able to handle it now. What changes is the name, and hence your perception of performance.

 

Its kind of like when McDonald's changed the size of their drinks. 22oz used to be a Small, now its a Medium. The only thing that really changed was the name, and thus the price. Now they get more money for the same amount of product.

 

So when I say lower your settings, I'm really saying to put your settings back to the equivalent. And I'm not telling you to do it anyway, I'm making a suggestion on how to solve your problem. Basically, I'm saying "If you want it to work, try this, or get a more powerful computer." That's not me saying, "Go out and buy a new computer for this one game." The patch's quality has NOTHING to do with my suggestion, and the suggestion itself is not stupid. Both things will work, but if you don't want to do it, you can either complain, which does nothing apparently, or live with it.

Very high shadows on patch 5 runs much better than high shadows on the latest patches. The old shadows have a much better draw distance also

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Wow, I only installed this patch today and I must say I can finally play IV with medium shadows at a better framerate. Best new patch for me but will never beat patch 5. biggrin.giftounge.gif

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Looks like they need to call back your certificate, revoke your technician license and disallow you to come closer than 15meters to any computer that not belongs to you )

 

Can you tell us truth?

Is your certificate stolen or your your twin brother, who actually know something about computers, passed all tests instead of you??  tounge2.gif

 

Man, are you blind??? Go get yourself goggles or something monocle.gif

 

Just install patch 5 over 6 and see the difference!

 

And stop eating placebo pills!

Facts are facts, no matter what you think. I get a smooth 60FPS most of the time. I actually trained my brother on how to use a computer, and I thought computers at a university for a year.

 

Patch 6 wouldn't even let my run the game because of a problem with Social Club, and Patch 5 had issues with the graphics. So far, Patch 7 is the best on my rig.

 

I can't help it if it doesn't work for you, but blaming the game when its actually your computer is a waste of time. Get a computer that can run the game or stop complaining. (Or check your settings cause you have them wrong.)

 

@Simulated AI: I am well aware that there are people having issues. But as I just said, that is because they don't have the right computer of settings for the game. Patch 6/7 changed things. For example: if you could run with High shadows in Patch 5, you have to set it to Medium night shadows in 6/7. They changed what High means between patches because you can have "Very Very High" so they had to raise what "Very High" means.

 

@WindedTrash: Yes the game has some memory issues. That is why I also listed that I have DDR3-TriChannel ram. I don't have pop-in or studdering, and I don't have any commandline options set. Also some memory control is based on the CPU. The i7 and most newer AMDs have memory controllers integrated. So upgrading your CPU also reduces memory latency, causing less memory issues.

 

I'm also aware some people don't want to upgrade their computers. However, to keep up with gaming, they have to. Okay, if you don't want an Intel, get the AMD Phenom II X6. It will work with AM2+ motherboards, and its not that expensive, so anyone with a somewhat newer AMD motherboard should be able to upgrade.

 

Also Winded, I was working on computers when I was 5, so I have no problem with a 14 year old knowing a bit about computers. In fact, I fully encourage it. But I do recommend taking classes on it if that is really something you are into, because without that little piece of paper, no one will take you seriously. (Sadly.)

Certificate revoking police already coming to you!)

 

My computer was able was able to run game at smooth 55-60 FPS with rare drops to 45 fps during very intensive scenes and rain, and it was at maximum (VERY HIGH) settings of everything and distance 35/70/50 with patch 5, and with such settings my game looked much better than it looks now***

 

After patch 6 and 7 i can set everything on 100/100/50 but render distance of objects still shorter than it was on 35/70 so its looks much worse now, new settings of very high shadows looks worse than very high shadows before, they are jaggy and blocky now, have 3 visible levels of details which suddenly switch to each other and making artifact like horizontal LINE that separates these levels, and shadows vanish at distance like 40-50 meters, when old shadow not vanished at any visible distance, and despite my GFX looks worse now (comparing to patch 6) when very high & ugly shadow is on, performance drops to 15-20 FPS (compare it to my previous results with 60 fps with better looking graphics, you certified ass!).

 

Of course if will set everything to LOW and 0/0/0 settings just like you do, i will have same smooth 60 fps as you have.

 

But if your certified dumb ass didn got it - i have had had 60 fps with maximum settings befor, now i can only have 60 fps with minumum settings.

 

See the difference? Its not my computer you moron, its GAME, it performance degraded in patch 6\7 and only arrogant punk ass liars like you, who always played on LOWEST SETTINGS, cant see this. Because for lower setttings, performance is much better then for high!

As i said before - set everything to very high at patch 6\7 and see how bad you FPS and GFX is, than install patch 5 and see how better your GFX and FPS... oh wait you probably can set such a high settings, so thats why you can see difference.

 

Play your VERY LOW settings then, and GTFO of this thread until i told everyone that you non certified liar, who dont know a sh*t about computers, coding and other related things. I bet you dont even know what offset and mnemonic mean, and if you will post answer, im know you just google that)

 

By take my congratulations!

You are now officially certified ARROGANT BLIND LIE-ASS!)

Be proud of yourself!

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with the combination between patch 1.1.2.0 for EFLC and the new runtime for DX.. the game is running pretty smooth now.

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Jnzooger's logic is paramount.

Medium is now low, high is now medium-low - the terms are correct but the figures speak for themselves. GTA IV is awkward.

 

Awkward is an awkward word, it's also autologically correct within itself.

 

GTAIV is autological.

 

I do not believe that fermi SLI and I7 hex could run GTAIV at 30in resolution constantly. - A bold statement, but I do not believe that the game actually has it in it. That is 60FPS @ 2560 x 1600.

 

I speak from over 14 years of pc gaming and building experience. (Anyone remember playing and purchasing HL:1 back in the day?)

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Yo voodooman, I just thought...

 

Your head is so far up your ass you can't see...

The light coming out of your monitor, tee-hee

There's no way you could build a system,

Without the help of your f**kin' sister... ha-ha,

Please don't tell me about FPS,

I got more than you know's to do with.

Your system is crap, get a life...

My f**kin' system cut you like a knife...

 

This is life mutha.....

Read the f**kin' sig biatch...

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Someone please tell me what best graphic settings to use? My spec is in my sig, if anyone has similar spec can you just post me a screen of your settings page?

 

I am not being lazy - i have tried for around one and a half years now to get the best results. I have tried every combination of settings under the sun.

 

I upgraded graphics from 8800GTS 640MB to a GTX260 SP216 1792MB for GTAIV, and just recently from a E6750 4MB to a Q9550 12MB just for this f**kin' game - and it doesn't seem to have made a great difference.

 

Battlefield: Bad Company 2 run amazingly well, Crysis is more than playable - WTF is wrong with GTAIV?

 

Quad-core at 3.60GHz?! I bumped it up to 3.95GHz once - just to see - and it was better, but come on... who has 4GHz quads at home? 68*C getting a little hot for me as well.

 

Please help me, I have no hair left from pulling the f**ker out.

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BS artist at work.

Seeing that you aren't in my computer, you can not comment on my settings.

 

I just re-ran the benchmark, and my results are as follows:

 

StatisticsAverage FPS: 50.91Duration: 37.14 secCPU Usage: 51%System memory usage: 67%Video memory usage: 95%Graphics SettingsVideo Mode: 1920 x 1080 (60 Hz)Texture Quality: HighShadow Quality: HighReflection Resolution: HighWater Quality: Very HighTexture Filter Quality: Anisotropic x16Night Shadows: MediumView Distance: 25Detail Distance: 31HardwareMicrosoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 2Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260Video Driver version: 197.45Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)Intel® Core i7 CPU         920  @ 3.34GHz

 

 

With patch 5 it looked like this:

 

StatisticsAverage FPS: 49.03Duration: 37.20 secCPU Usage: 48%System memory usage: 71%Video memory usage: 92%Graphics SettingsVideo Mode: 1920 x 1080 (60 Hz)Texture Quality: HighTexture Filter Quality: HighView Distance: 29Detail Distance: 36HardwareMicrosoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 2Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260Video Driver version: 185.85Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)Intel® Core i7 CPU         920  @ 2.67GHz

 

Admittedly its not really a fair comparison because I've updated drivers and overclocked my CPU since then,

 

And your logic is fundamentally flawed. Attacking me with a Hobson's choice of "if you know it, I know you're a lair," is basic psychology gone bad. That's like calling someone gay and then saying "If you deny it, it makes it true." Frankly, you try to play the no-win scenario, which just makes you look like an ass. So no, I will not indulge your petty "logic" by posting an answer. If you think I don't know it, fine. That's your problem. But don't go trying to slander me or the good folks at CompTIA who issued me my certification. (And besides, any good technician knows its not about knowing everything, but where to find the answer. So googleing it would be a fair play anyway.)

 

Also, when have you posted your specs? For all I know, you are just pulling numbers out of a hat to make yourself look high and mighty. And to play your little game, by replying to this, you admit that you are an immature ass-hat who just loves to try and get on peoples nerves on the internet where there is no way to get hurt by doing so.) sleepy.gif

 

 

Someone please tell me what best graphic settings to use? My spec is in my sig, if anyone has similar spec can you just post me a screen of your settings page?

 

I am not being lazy - i have tried for around one and a half years now to get the best results. I have tried every combination of settings under the sun.

 

I upgraded graphics from 8800GTS 640MB to a GTX260 SP216 1792MB for GTAIV, and just recently from a E6750 4MB to a Q9550 12MB just for this f**kin' game - and it doesn't seem to have made a great difference.

 

Battlefield: Bad Company 2 run amazingly well, Crysis is more than playable - WTF is wrong with GTAIV?

 

Quad-core at 3.60GHz?! I bumped it up to 3.95GHz once - just to see - and it was better, but come on... who has 4GHz quads at home? 68*C getting a little hot for me as well.

 

Please help me, I have no hair left from pulling the f**ker out.

No need to triple post man. A single post separated by a couple of spaces works just fine. colgate.gif

 

I'd say you should be able to run similar to me, maybe with Shadows on Medium or Low instead, and Texture Filter Quality at x4 instead.

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Ooh, thanks for the info, man...

That rhyme was out of touch. Genuine apologies...

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Statistics

Average FPS: 61.42

Duration: 37.14 sec

CPU Usage: 69%

System memory usage: 65%

Video memory usage: 49%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1440 x 900 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Texture Filter Quality: Highest

Shadow Quality: High

Reflection Resolution: Medium

Water Quality: Medium

View Distance: 32

Detail Distance: 70

 

Hardware

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260

Video Driver version: 197.45

Audio Adapter: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)

Intel® Core2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 3.20GHz

 

File ID: benchmark.cli

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And, just for the record, posting benchmark stats (even screenshots) is bollocks 'cause I can record a high FPS scene and just rename it to Benchmark.cli and with it's accompanying *.tab file re-write GTA's built-in benchmark, and you or anyone else wouldn't know the difference.

 

What is is CompTIA? In the UK we gain Microsoft Accreditation to become accepted as computer literate individuals, are you from US? Are you an immigrant? Is your family three generations old in America?

 

I am so sorry that your i7 is under-performing. Ouch, that must really bite. Ah well, life goes on....

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BS artist at work.

Seeing that you aren't in my computer, you can not comment on my settings.

 

I just re-ran the benchmark, and my results are as follows:

 

StatisticsAverage FPS: 50.91Duration: 37.14 secCPU Usage: 51%System memory usage: 67%Video memory usage: 95%Graphics SettingsVideo Mode: 1920 x 1080 (60 Hz)Texture Quality: HighShadow Quality: HighReflection Resolution: HighWater Quality: Very HighTexture Filter Quality: Anisotropic x16Night Shadows: MediumView Distance: 25Detail Distance: 31HardwareMicrosoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 2Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260Video Driver version: 197.45Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)Intel® Core i7 CPU         920  @ 3.34GHz

 

 

With patch 5 it looked like this:

 

StatisticsAverage FPS: 49.03Duration: 37.20 secCPU Usage: 48%System memory usage: 71%Video memory usage: 92%Graphics SettingsVideo Mode: 1920 x 1080 (60 Hz)Texture Quality: HighTexture Filter Quality: HighView Distance: 29Detail Distance: 36HardwareMicrosoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 2Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260Video Driver version: 185.85Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)Intel® Core i7 CPU         920  @ 2.67GHz

 

Admittedly its not really a fair comparison because I've updated drivers and overclocked my CPU since then,

 

And your logic is fundamentally flawed. Attacking me with a Hobson's choice of "if you know it, I know you're a lair," is basic psychology gone bad. That's like calling someone gay and then saying "If you deny it, it makes it true." Frankly, you try to play the no-win scenario, which just makes you look like an ass. So no, I will not indulge your petty "logic" by posting an answer. If you think I don't know it, fine. That's your problem. But don't go trying to slander me or the good folks at CompTIA who issued me my certification. (And besides, any good technician knows its not about knowing everything, but where to find the answer. So googleing it would be a fair play anyway.)

 

Also, when have you posted your specs? For all I know, you are just pulling numbers out of a hat to make yourself look high and mighty. And to play your little game, by replying to this, you admit that you are an immature ass-hat who just loves to try and get on peoples nerves on the internet where there is no way to get hurt by doing so.) sleepy.gif

 

 

Someone please tell me what best graphic settings to use? My spec is in my sig, if anyone has similar spec can you just post me a screen of your settings page?

 

I am not being lazy - i have tried for around one and a half years now to get the best results. I have tried every combination of settings under the sun.

 

I upgraded graphics from 8800GTS 640MB to a GTX260 SP216 1792MB for GTAIV, and just recently from a E6750 4MB to a Q9550 12MB just for this f**kin' game - and it doesn't seem to have made a great difference.

 

Battlefield: Bad Company 2 run amazingly well, Crysis is more than playable - WTF is wrong with GTAIV?

 

Quad-core at 3.60GHz?! I bumped it up to 3.95GHz once - just to see - and it was better, but come on... who has 4GHz quads at home? 68*C getting a little hot for me as well.

 

Please help me, I have no hair left from pulling the f**ker out.

No need to triple post man. A single post separated by a couple of spaces works just fine. colgate.gif

 

I'd say you should be able to run similar to me, maybe with Shadows on Medium or Low instead, and Texture Filter Quality at x4 instead.

And this completely proves that you are idiot.

 

 

You have equal FPS both with patch 5 and patch 6 (just 1fps difference)

 

But conditions absolutely different!

 

1st, you have had your 50fps when you played with default CPU clocks at 2.67 ghz

 

Intel® Core i7 CPU        920  @ 2.67GHz

 

with patch 7 you have same 50 fps but your cpu is very overclocked to 3.34 ghz (seems like lie to me, because i have same CPU, it starts to shutdown at 3.20+ ghz to prevent damage because it temperature in GTA 4 is more than 90+ Celsius)

 

 

Intel® Core i7 CPU        920  @ 3.34GHz

 

I hope you know at least simple math because when you have same results = 50fpst after you overclocked your system, this means that your performance in game dropped!

So generally your system performance now is better than it was before (and you should keep in mind that GFX quality is lower now in GTA 4), but game results equal so, if your will install patch 5 now (dont forget to install RGSC u certified lamer) you will see better performance than what you have now! 55-60 fps with same settings.

 

Also both of your benchmarks shows totally different settings, and some of settings just missing (which looks like you manualy removed to cover LOW settings, or they was turned off).

 

 

your patch 6\7 settings are

 

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1920 x 1080 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Shadow Quality: High

Reflection Resolution: High

Water Quality: Very High

Texture Filter Quality: Anisotropic x16

Night Shadows: Medium

View Distance: 25

Detail Distance: 31

 

and

 

patch 5 settings are

 

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1920 x 1080 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Texture Filter Quality: High

View Distance: 29

Detail Distance: 36

 

texture quality is equal, texture filtering is not, 4 settings missing due of low or turned off values (yep u cant cheat us on this), and your V/D Distance: 25/31 in patch 6/7 results much lower than V/D Distance: 29/36 in patch!

Both physically 25<lower<29 and 32<lower36 so your quality of graphics in game now 100% lower, also you should count that even if you have had same values in both patch 5 and 6 benchmarks like 29/30 , they are not equal, because patch 6/7 have VERY REDUCED RENDER DISTANCE OF EVERY OBJECT (which is reason of insane objects pop-ins), so when with patch 5 your was able to set maximum distance ast 40, now you can set 100 and will still not look as good as 40 looked like in patch 5.

So generaly you are blind lie ass punk.

Because you cant see yourself, that even your benchmarks proves what i and others here say:

PATCH 6 and 7 reduces QUALITY OF GRAPHICS AND PERFORMANCE comparing to PATCH 5

 

Your benchmark results says that you managed to keep same FPS as before by reducing quality of graphics.

And you call it performance boost and you think that your game runs better??

After that, are you totally dumb or what?

 

If this not enough for you to see that you are blind (lol how can blind one see that he blind if he cant see anything, lol?) and absolutely wrong, I will do benchmark now with patch 5 then will install patch 7 and will do benchmark with same settings, to totally blow all your misinformation bullcrap out of this thread.

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This benchmark is very unrepresentative of the actual in game performance. For example, I can get 50fps on the benchmark but if I am in game, I will get an average 30fps cruising around town. Turn off shadows and I'll get that 50fps.

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Someone please tell me what best graphic settings to use? My spec is in my sig, if anyone has similar spec can you just post me a screen of your settings page?

 

I am not being lazy - i have tried for around one and a half years now to get the best results. I have tried every combination of settings under the sun.

 

I upgraded graphics from 8800GTS 640MB to a GTX260 SP216 1792MB for GTAIV, and just recently from a E6750 4MB to a Q9550 12MB just for this f**kin' game - and it doesn't seem to have made a great difference.

 

Battlefield: Bad Company 2 run amazingly well, Crysis is more than playable - WTF is wrong with GTAIV?

 

Quad-core at 3.60GHz?! I bumped it up to 3.95GHz once - just to see - and it was better, but come on... who has 4GHz quads at home? 68*C getting a little hot for me as well.

 

Please help me, I have no hair left from pulling the f**ker out.

Even if you moved from that GTX260 to a 5850, it wouldn't make much difference. The new shadow rendering system is a big resource hog. Turn that off and you can whack up virtually all other settings.

That's what I had to do...

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Yo voodooman, I just thought...

 

Your head is so far up your ass you can't see...

The light coming out of your monitor, tee-hee

There's no way you could build a system,

Without the help of your f**kin' sister... ha-ha,

Please don't tell me about FPS,

I got more than you know's to do with.

Your system is crap, get a life...

My f**kin' system cut you like a knife...

 

This is life mutha.....

Read the f**kin' sig biatch...

But still he is right.

 

Rockstar f*cked it up, i will sign that!

 

I will soon upload a video on youtube trashing EFLC disc version. And informing on the new settings and what it did to the brilliant game that is now ruined!

 

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Whoa, WTF.

"with patch 7 you have same 50 fps but your cpu is very overclocked to 3.34 ghz (seems like lie to me, because i have same CPU, it starts to shutdown at 3.20+ ghz to prevent damage because it temperature in GTA 4 is more than 90+ Celsius)"

 

Don't be so naïve that every i7 runs hot, pls guys, some ppl do actually live in -10°C environments. imagine the ambients!!

 

Anyway 'voodooman' and 'jnzooger' IDK which bitch I rattled but quit whining about benchmarks - they mean f**k all.

 

Ultraman1966: "This benchmark is very unrepresentative of the actual in game performance. For example, I can get 50fps on the benchmark but if I am in game, I will get an average 30fps cruising around town. Turn off shadows and I'll get that 50fps."

 

Like I said, I could be out cruising at sea and record a new benchmark and replace GTA's original one and have 150+FPS, so pls, just talk about real world FPS, like when it's dark, or when it f**kin' rains those are the figures that really matter.

 

P.S. I have Noctua heatsink and it can kick the sh*t out of any Megahalems, or Thermaltake TrueWanker any-f**kin'-day, any-f**kin'-temperature.

 

For real.

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Can you all stay ontopic instead bickering and bashing each other?

All I see here is _corTEC and voodooman having buttsecks

but refusing to stop bashing.

 

 

Ontopic, how does look the shadows on Medium?

Im thinking on trying the patch7.

And is the patch7 the worsest patch ever or not?

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Sorry...

Patch 1.0.4.0 delivers best performance.

 

I also recommend using nVidia's beta 180.84 drivers in Vista64 or Xp64 - sorry no Seven support yet.

If you're AMD you've already lost...

 

Shadows have less crisp and impact under the newer patches, if online play is expendable to you, I suggest no later than 1.0.5.0. (And seriously try those beta drivers, they rule for Physx processing and general offloading of computations.) Mas rapido.

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Sorry...

Patch 1.0.4.0 delivers best performance.

 

I also recommend using nVidia's beta 180.84 drivers in Vista64 or Xp64 - sorry no Seven support yet.

If you're AMD you've already lost...

Ok good, so patch 1.0.4.0 is the best.

 

And Im an Intel, nVidia and Vistax64 user.

I dont play MP, so older patches are no problem.

Heck, Im on patch 1.

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