GTA IV Patch 7/EFLC Patch 2

[Yusof Amir]

Do you use the newest patch or EFLC?

I play EFLC with latest patch

 

 

You have a " sh*tty " computer? Well thats why it works for you.

 

Only sh*t can run on sh*t... 

 

Nah it's just that the pc that you or the computer shop where you bought your pc is put together by an idiot! DON'T SPEND YOUR MONEY ON STUFF JUST BECAUSE OF THE NAME! Brand doesn't give you performance everything else does.

Wow, thats one hell of a statement!

 

If you call me an idoit, well so are you times 2.

 

I have been building computers for more than 15 years now, for myself and for others.

I'm telling you, there is something wrong with patch 6 and EFLC compared to GTA patch 5, only an IDIOT cannot see that

 

My guess is, that you are just some kid, that really dont know what he is talking about!

You can simply start by reading the boards, and if you actually understand that, then I accept your apology.

 

If you dont, well thats your problem.

according to your signature i believe you must have enough money to buy a Xbox 360.So i recommend you to play this game on console with the fixed settings and performance insted of playing on the pc and complaining all the time.

[WindedTrash]

Do you use the newest patch or EFLC?

I play EFLC with latest patch

 

 

You have a " sh*tty " computer? Well thats why it works for you.

 

Only sh*t can run on sh*t... 

 

Nah it's just that the pc that you or the computer shop where you bought your pc is put together by an idiot! DON'T SPEND YOUR MONEY ON STUFF JUST BECAUSE OF THE NAME! Brand doesn't give you performance everything else does.

Wow, thats one hell of a statement!

 

If you call me an idoit, well so are you times 2.

 

I have been building computers for more than 15 years now, for myself and for others.

I'm telling you, there is something wrong with patch 6 and EFLC compared to GTA patch 5, only an IDIOT cannot see that

 

My guess is, that you are just some kid, that really dont know what he is talking about!

You can simply start by reading the boards, and if you actually understand that, then I accept your apology.

 

If you dont, well thats your problem.

according to your signature i believe you must have enough money to buy a Xbox 360.So i recommend you to play this game on console with the fixed settings and performance insted of playing on the pc and complaining all the time.

Can you mod 360 version?

Can you get high res textures on 360 version?

Can you use trainer in 360 version?

Can you play multiplayer FREE on 360 version?

 

NO, this is why we bought it for pc and this is why we are still playing it on pc!

[AndyGanteks]

Still no link to download from a Rockstar site?

[jnzooger]

Do you use the newest patch or EFLC?

I play EFLC with latest patch

 

 

You have a " sh*tty " computer? Well thats why it works for you.

 

Only sh*t can run on sh*t... 

 

Nah it's just that the pc that you or the computer shop where you bought your pc is put together by an idiot! DON'T SPEND YOUR MONEY ON STUFF JUST BECAUSE OF THE NAME! Brand doesn't give you performance everything else does.

Wow, thats one hell of a statement!

 

If you call me an idoit, well so are you times 2.

 

I have been building computers for more than 15 years now, for myself and for others.

I'm telling you, there is something wrong with patch 6 and EFLC compared to GTA patch 5, only an IDIOT cannot see that

 

My guess is, that you are just some kid, that really dont know what he is talking about!

You can simply start by reading the boards, and if you actually understand that, then I accept your apology.

 

If you dont, well thats your problem.

I've been a computer technician for at least 15 years, and I've been A+ Certified for 7. I have absolutely no problems with Patch 7 on my custom built PC. The problem most people are having is the CPU. I run an overclocked Core i7-920, 6 GB DDR3-TriChannel, and a GeForce 260 core216. I run the game with most everything on High except Night Shadows which I have on Medium. The game works perfect in 1920x1080 with this setup.

 

Food for thought...

[Jigglyass]

Do you use the newest patch or EFLC?

I play EFLC with latest patch

 

 

You have a " sh*tty " computer? Well thats why it works for you.

 

Only sh*t can run on sh*t... 

 

Nah it's just that the pc that you or the computer shop where you bought your pc is put together by an idiot! DON'T SPEND YOUR MONEY ON STUFF JUST BECAUSE OF THE NAME! Brand doesn't give you performance everything else does.

Wow, thats one hell of a statement!

 

If you call me an idoit, well so are you times 2.

 

I have been building computers for more than 15 years now, for myself and for others.

I'm telling you, there is something wrong with patch 6 and EFLC compared to GTA patch 5, only an IDIOT cannot see that

 

My guess is, that you are just some kid, that really dont know what he is talking about!

You can simply start by reading the boards, and if you actually understand that, then I accept your apology.

 

If you dont, well thats your problem.

I've been a computer technician for at least 15 years, and I've been A+ Certified for 7. I have absolutely no problems with Patch 7 on my custom built PC. The problem most people are having is the CPU. I run an overclocked Core i7-920, 6 GB DDR3-TriChannel, and a GeForce 260 core216. I run the game with most everything on High except Night Shadows which I have on Medium. The game works perfect in 1920x1080 with this setup.

 

Food for thought...

A+ certification means nothing at this age.

If you were to be the said computer technician for the said 15 years, you would have more serious certs that the pathetic A+.

Seems like load of crap to me.

[v00d00m4n]

Do you use the newest patch or EFLC?

I play EFLC with latest patch

 

 

You have a " sh*tty " computer? Well thats why it works for you.

 

Only sh*t can run on sh*t... 

 

Nah it's just that the pc that you or the computer shop where you bought your pc is put together by an idiot! DON'T SPEND YOUR MONEY ON STUFF JUST BECAUSE OF THE NAME! Brand doesn't give you performance everything else does.

Wow, thats one hell of a statement!

 

If you call me an idoit, well so are you times 2.

 

I have been building computers for more than 15 years now, for myself and for others.

I'm telling you, there is something wrong with patch 6 and EFLC compared to GTA patch 5, only an IDIOT cannot see that

 

My guess is, that you are just some kid, that really dont know what he is talking about!

You can simply start by reading the boards, and if you actually understand that, then I accept your apology.

 

If you dont, well thats your problem.

I've been a computer technician for at least 15 years, and I've been A+ Certified for 7. I have absolutely no problems with Patch 7 on my custom built PC. The problem most people are having is the CPU. I run an overclocked Core i7-920, 6 GB DDR3-TriChannel, and a GeForce 260 core216. I run the game with most everything on High except Night Shadows which I have on Medium. The game works perfect in 1920x1080 with this setup.

 

Food for thought...

Looks like they need to call back your certificate, revoke your technician license and disallow you to come closer than 15meters to any computer that not belongs to you )

 

Can you tell us truth?

Is your certificate stolen or your your twin brother, who actually know something about computers, passed all tests instead of you??

 

Man, are you blind??? Go get yourself goggles or something

 

Just install patch 5 over 6 and see the difference!

 

And stop eating placebo pills!

[Simulated-AI]

Do you use the newest patch or EFLC?

I play EFLC with latest patch

 

 

You have a " sh*tty " computer? Well thats why it works for you.

 

Only sh*t can run on sh*t... 

 

Nah it's just that the pc that you or the computer shop where you bought your pc is put together by an idiot! DON'T SPEND YOUR MONEY ON STUFF JUST BECAUSE OF THE NAME! Brand doesn't give you performance everything else does.

Wow, thats one hell of a statement!

 

If you call me an idoit, well so are you times 2.

 

I have been building computers for more than 15 years now, for myself and for others.

I'm telling you, there is something wrong with patch 6 and EFLC compared to GTA patch 5, only an IDIOT cannot see that

 

My guess is, that you are just some kid, that really dont know what he is talking about!

You can simply start by reading the boards, and if you actually understand that, then I accept your apology.

 

If you dont, well thats your problem.

according to your signature i believe you must have enough money to buy a Xbox 360.So i recommend you to play this game on console with the fixed settings and performance insted of playing on the pc and complaining all the time.

I am ONLY complaining because with the new settings along with patch 6, the stutter is so heavy, the game is unplayable.

 

You have something that works, and now it doesn't!

I think its ok to complain then.

 

 

[Simulated-AI]

Do you use the newest patch or EFLC?

I play EFLC with latest patch

 

 

You have a " sh*tty " computer? Well thats why it works for you.

 

Only sh*t can run on sh*t... 

 

Nah it's just that the pc that you or the computer shop where you bought your pc is put together by an idiot! DON'T SPEND YOUR MONEY ON STUFF JUST BECAUSE OF THE NAME! Brand doesn't give you performance everything else does.

Wow, thats one hell of a statement!

 

If you call me an idoit, well so are you times 2.

 

I have been building computers for more than 15 years now, for myself and for others.

I'm telling you, there is something wrong with patch 6 and EFLC compared to GTA patch 5, only an IDIOT cannot see that

 

My guess is, that you are just some kid, that really dont know what he is talking about!

You can simply start by reading the boards, and if you actually understand that, then I accept your apology.

 

If you dont, well thats your problem.

I've been a computer technician for at least 15 years, and I've been A+ Certified for 7. I have absolutely no problems with Patch 7 on my custom built PC. The problem most people are having is the CPU. I run an overclocked Core i7-920, 6 GB DDR3-TriChannel, and a GeForce 260 core216. I run the game with most everything on High except Night Shadows which I have on Medium. The game works perfect in 1920x1080 with this setup.

 

Food for thought...

Thats good for you, but a quick look around the board will tell you that I'm not the only one!

 

Many here have problems with the new patch settings, problems we didn't have before.

 

And thats why its so lame

[WindedTrash]

Do you use the newest patch or EFLC?

I play EFLC with latest patch

 

 

You have a " sh*tty " computer? Well thats why it works for you.

 

Only sh*t can run on sh*t... 

 

Nah it's just that the pc that you or the computer shop where you bought your pc is put together by an idiot! DON'T SPEND YOUR MONEY ON STUFF JUST BECAUSE OF THE NAME! Brand doesn't give you performance everything else does.

Wow, thats one hell of a statement!

 

If you call me an idoit, well so are you times 2.

 

I have been building computers for more than 15 years now, for myself and for others.

I'm telling you, there is something wrong with patch 6 and EFLC compared to GTA patch 5, only an IDIOT cannot see that

 

My guess is, that you are just some kid, that really dont know what he is talking about!

You can simply start by reading the boards, and if you actually understand that, then I accept your apology.

 

If you dont, well thats your problem.

I've been a computer technician for at least 15 years, and I've been A+ Certified for 7. I have absolutely no problems with Patch 7 on my custom built PC. The problem most people are having is the CPU. I run an overclocked Core i7-920, 6 GB DDR3-TriChannel, and a GeForce 260 core216. I run the game with most everything on High except Night Shadows which I have on Medium. The game works perfect in 1920x1080 with this setup.

 

Food for thought...

Yes we know this game is cpu intensive but cpu doesnt have to do anything with MEMORY MANAGEMENT as the popin textures occur because of it.

 

And most people dont want to spend money for an expensive i7 and change their mobos to intel supportive just to play this game because its not well optimized for pc.

 

Ive never been a techinician for computers and i seem to know as much as you do. There isnt anything special about building pc:s people just have the attitude that "omg this is PC i cant do that".

And im only 14 years old (Dont talk sh*t about that, ok?) ive built a pc for my uncle and its been half years and he says its still running great, no problems.

[luceberg]

 

Still no link to download from a Rockstar site? 

Yes, here:

 

http://support.rockstargames.com/help/

[Gouveia]

I am ONLY complaining because with the new settings along with patch 6, the stutter is so heavy, the game is unplayable.

 

You have something that works, and now it doesn't!

I think its ok to complain then.

GTAIV Unplayable? Dude, you run GTAIV on a GTX285 (if it's true what's in your sig) and it stutters? Then you've must have been joked on, because seriously, I know I play on minimun, but it doesn't stutter or anything on a Radeon Mobility HD4200 + AMD Turion II 2.3 GHz. I can even crank some stuff up and still get from 15 to 25 FPS on the game (similar to the console version).

[Yusof Amir]

I am ONLY complaining because with the new settings along with patch 6, the stutter is so heavy, the game is unplayable.

 

You have something that works, and now it doesn't!

I think its ok to complain then.

GTAIV Unplayable? Dude, you run GTAIV on a GTX285 (if it's true what's in your sig) and it stutters? Then you've must have been joked on, because seriously, I know I play on minimun, but it doesn't stutter or anything on a Radeon Mobility HD4200 + AMD Turion II 2.3 GHz. I can even crank some stuff up and still get from 15 to 25 FPS on the game (similar to the console version).

agree.

i played and done GTA IV and its episodes at 1280x1024 resolution with low settings very smooth(+30 FPS)on my rig.no stutter at all.i think you should set settings to lower value.

[jnzooger]

Looks like they need to call back your certificate, revoke your technician license and disallow you to come closer than 15meters to any computer that not belongs to you )

 

Can you tell us truth?

Is your certificate stolen or your your twin brother, who actually know something about computers, passed all tests instead of you??

 

Man, are you blind??? Go get yourself goggles or something

 

Just install patch 5 over 6 and see the difference!

 

And stop eating placebo pills!

Facts are facts, no matter what you think. I get a smooth 60FPS most of the time. I actually trained my brother on how to use a computer, and I thought computers at a university for a year.

 

Patch 6 wouldn't even let my run the game because of a problem with Social Club, and Patch 5 had issues with the graphics. So far, Patch 7 is the best on my rig.

 

I can't help it if it doesn't work for you, but blaming the game when its actually your computer is a waste of time. Get a computer that can run the game or stop complaining. (Or check your settings cause you have them wrong.)

 

@Simulated AI: I am well aware that there are people having issues. But as I just said, that is because they don't have the right computer of settings for the game. Patch 6/7 changed things. For example: if you could run with High shadows in Patch 5, you have to set it to Medium night shadows in 6/7. They changed what High means between patches because you can have "Very Very High" so they had to raise what "Very High" means.

 

@WindedTrash: Yes the game has some memory issues. That is why I also listed that I have DDR3-TriChannel ram. I don't have pop-in or studdering, and I don't have any commandline options set. Also some memory control is based on the CPU. The i7 and most newer AMDs have memory controllers integrated. So upgrading your CPU also reduces memory latency, causing less memory issues.

 

I'm also aware some people don't want to upgrade their computers. However, to keep up with gaming, they have to. Okay, if you don't want an Intel, get the AMD Phenom II X6. It will work with AM2+ motherboards, and its not that expensive, so anyone with a somewhat newer AMD motherboard should be able to upgrade.

 

Also Winded, I was working on computers when I was 5, so I have no problem with a 14 year old knowing a bit about computers. In fact, I fully encourage it. But I do recommend taking classes on it if that is really something you are into, because without that little piece of paper, no one will take you seriously. (Sadly.)

[CharmingCharlie]

 

Patch 6 wouldn't even let my run the game because of a problem with Social Club, and Patch 5 had issues with the graphics. So far, Patch 7 is the best on my rig.

 

I can't help it if it doesn't work for you, but blaming the game when its actually your computer is a waste of time. Get a computer that can run the game or stop complaining. (Or check your settings cause you have them wrong.)

So let me get this straight, you had problems with Patch 6 in that it wouldn't let you run the game, right ? Does this mean we would have been entitled to tell you to "get a proper computer" then ? After all I never had a problem starting GTA 4 with Patch 6 so going by your logic patch 6 worked for me and it didn't work for you so it must've been your computer. Oh no wait they fixed that problem with a new patch that now makes the game work fine on your PC.

 

Just because patch 7 now makes GTA 4 run fine on your machine does not mean the game isn't broken for others. The fact this game has had to be patched SEVEN TIMES (a new record for a GTA), the fact they have had to completely redo the shadows in the game and the fact after seven patches there are still several outstanding issues as well as new ones does not give you the slightest hint that perhaps it isn't a problem with people's PC's but the rather mediocre effort that has been put into GTA 4 on the PC.

 

When GTA 4 was first released I had no problems running the game, I didn't need any command lines, I never saw a crash and I was scratching my head at people who complained about "memory leaks". With each patch the game has got worse frame rate wise, now today I have to use the memrestrict command to prevent memory leaks and I see graphical glitches all over the place. I guess it must be my PC then it's funny how NO other game I play has such appalling performance as GTA 4. After patch 4 this game went rapidly downhill and too a lot of people patch 7 has not improved things all that much.

Edited June 8, 2010 by CharmingCharlie

[jnzooger]

 

Patch 6 wouldn't even let my run the game because of a problem with Social Club, and Patch 5 had issues with the graphics. So far, Patch 7 is the best on my rig.

 

I can't help it if it doesn't work for you, but blaming the game when its actually your computer is a waste of time. Get a computer that can run the game or stop complaining. (Or check your settings cause you have them wrong.)

So let me get this straight, you had problems with Patch 6 in that it wouldn't let you run the game, right ? Does this mean we would have been entitled to tell you to "get a proper computer" then ? After all I never had a problem starting GTA 4 with Patch 6 so going by your logic patch 6 worked for me and it didn't work for you so it must've been your computer. Oh no wait they fixed that problem with a new patch that now makes the game work fine on your PC.

 

Just because patch 7 now makes GTA 4 run fine on your machine does not mean the game isn't broken for others. The fact this game has had to be patched SEVEN TIMES (a new record for a GTA), the fact they have had to completely redo the shadows in the game and the fact after seven patches there are still several outstanding issues as well as new ones does not give you the slightest hint that perhaps it isn't a problem with people's PC's but the rather mediocre effort that has been put into GTA 4 on the PC.

 

When GTA 4 was first released I had no problems running the game, I didn't need any command lines, I never saw a crash and I was scratching my head at people who complained about "memory leaks". With each patch the game has got worse frame rate wise, now today I have to use the memrestrict command to prevent memory leaks and I see graphical glitches all over the place. I guess it must be my PC then it's funny how NO other game I play has such appalling performance as GTA 4. After patch 4 this game went rapidly downhill and too a lot of people patch 7 has not improved things all that much.

Look, I'm not saying that others aren't having issues. I'm saying that will the right settings OR the right computer you may have less issues.

 

In my case, when patch 6 wasn't working, I made one post asking if anyone had seen anything like it, and then when to R* support for help. The next patch fixed that issue. It turns out it was actually R*'s computer, or more accurately their Social Club server.

 

I didn't complain about the problem like complaining would change anything. I DID something.

 

So just because YOU have issues with Rockstar doesn't mean you have to take it out on me because I don't. I realize you want to take out your vengeance on someone, but I am not that person.

 

The solution to most peoples problems is what I said. I'm not saying to do it, I'm saying to stop complaining because it doesn't get anything done.

 

Submit bug reports, talk to R* support, lower your settings, or get a new computer. These are the only things that will do anything. Complaining is just annoying.

[CharmingCharlie]

 

Look, I'm not saying that others aren't having issues. I'm saying that will the right settings OR the right computer you may have less issues.

I could have said exactly the SAME thing about you and your problem with patch 6, I get the feeling if I had said to you "get a new computer" you wouldn't have been too chuffed at me for saying that. Naturally it turned out there was nothing wrong with your computer and it was a screw up on Rockstars end, just like a lot of the problems people are experiencing now.

 

 

So just because YOU have issues with Rockstar doesn't mean you have to take it out on me because I don't. I realize you want to take out your vengeance on someone, but I am not that person.

Where did I take it out on you ? I just saw your pretty arrogant post and thought I would chime in and say it is pretty damn nasty of you to accuse everyone that is having a problem with the new patch to get a new computer. I actually solved my GTA 4 problems quite easily, I stopped playing the sorry excuse for a product (which is why you don't see me posting much in the GTA 4 forum any more).

 

 

The solution to most peoples problems is what I said. I'm not saying to do it, I'm saying to stop complaining because it doesn't get anything done.

This board is the only forum open for people to discuss GTA 4 related issues, the PC version is of such poor quality that from day 1 the board has been inundated with people having problems. That is the way of life on a forum when people encounter a problem with a game they search out the solution and find themselves here. Naturally they will want to vent and ask how they can fix the situation. If you don't like reading these complaints then I am sure you have the capacity to ignore them.

 

 

Submit bug reports, talk to R* support, lower your settings, or get a new computer. These are the only things that will do anything. Complaining is just annoying.

Rockstar ignore bug reports, Rockstar support couldn't punch it's way out of a paper bag and getting a new computer does not mean the problems will go away. The only thing that ever seems to work with Rockstar is pressuring them. Now if you don't like the complaints then just ignore them or try and help people. It is highly unproductive to just make a blanket "get a new pc" statement to everyone that is having a problem with this game.

 

[jnzooger]

 

Look, I'm not saying that others aren't having issues. I'm saying that will the right settings OR the right computer you may have less issues.

I could have said exactly the SAME thing about you and your problem with patch 6, I get the feeling if I had said to you "get a new computer" you wouldn't have been too chuffed at me for saying that. Naturally it turned out there was nothing wrong with your computer and it was a screw up on Rockstars end, just like a lot of the problems people are experiencing now.

 

 

So just because YOU have issues with Rockstar doesn't mean you have to take it out on me because I don't. I realize you want to take out your vengeance on someone, but I am not that person.

Where did I take it out on you ? I just saw your pretty arrogant post and thought I would chime in and say it is pretty damn nasty of you to accuse everyone that is having a problem with the new patch to get a new computer. I actually solved my GTA 4 problems quite easily, I stopped playing the sorry excuse for a product (which is why you don't see me posting much in the GTA 4 forum any more).

 

 

The solution to most peoples problems is what I said. I'm not saying to do it, I'm saying to stop complaining because it doesn't get anything done.

This board is the only forum open for people to discuss GTA 4 related issues, the PC version is of such poor quality that from day 1 the board has been inundated with people having problems. That is the way of life on a forum when people encounter a problem with a game they search out the solution and find themselves here. Naturally they will want to vent and ask how they can fix the situation. If you don't like reading these complaints then I am sure you have the capacity to ignore them.

 

 

Submit bug reports, talk to R* support, lower your settings, or get a new computer. These are the only things that will do anything. Complaining is just annoying.

Rockstar ignore bug reports, Rockstar support couldn't punch it's way out of a paper bag and getting a new computer does not mean the problems will go away. The only thing that ever seems to work with Rockstar is pressuring them. Now if you don't like the complaints then just ignore them or try and help people. It is highly unproductive to just make a blanket "get a new pc" statement to everyone that is having a problem with this game.

1. I would know if I needed a new computer, plus I did deal with it without posting and asking you. So the first part was moot. (Oh, and yet here you are trying to make my advice look meaningless.)

 

2. You took it out on me with the previous post and this one.

 

3. I make a suggestion on what to do to solve issues and you take it personally and get butt hurt. Okay, you have the capacity to ignore me too.

 

4. They didn't ignore my bug reports, clearly. Most of the problems would go away with a good computer, most likely. And I never made a blanket "Get a new PC" statement. Try opening your eyes and reading for a change before making accusations. I said the new graphics require the lower settings on the same computers.

[CharmingCharlie]

 

1. I would know if I needed a new computer, plus I did deal with it without posting and asking you. So the first part was moot. (Oh, and yet here you are trying to make my advice look meaningless.)

Oh yeah right I forgot your "bit of paper" which makes you an expert from what I can tell you didn't "deal with it" you just waited to see what Rockstar did. Oh and I don't need to make your advice look meaningless you are doing a pretty damn good job of it yourself.

 

 

2. You took it out on me with the previous post and this one.

I merely pointed out that it is pretty unacceptable of you to go around here telling people to "get a new computer", if you class that as "taken it out on you" then damn you are a sensitive so and so aren't you. Perhaps if you showed a bit of sympathy and understanding to those that are suffering problems they might reciprocate.

 

 

3. I make a suggestion on what to do to solve issues and you take it personally and get butt hurt. Okay, you have the capacity to ignore me too.

You made a moronic suggestion that does not solve any issues, buying a whole new computer just because one game is performing badly on their computer is quite the most moronic piece of advice I have ever heard.

 

 

4. They didn't ignore my bug reports, clearly. Most of the problems would go away with a good computer, most likely. And I never made a blanket "Get a new PC" statement. Try opening your eyes and reading for a change before making accusations. I said the new graphics require the lower settings on the same computers.

They may not have ignored yours but they ignored everyone else's, bugs that have been present and known since day 1 didn't get fixed till patch 6 nearly 18 months after they became apparent. I would say that is "ignoring" bug reports. They also seem to be ignoring your Madcatz controller bug too since that apparently didn't get fixed in your "perfectly working" game. I am also quite adept at reading thank you very much and I would say telling people to :-

 

 

I can't help it if it doesn't work for you, but blaming the game when its actually your computer is a waste of time. Get a computer that can run the game or stop complaining.

 

Is a blanket statement you are basically saying if you complain about this game you should get a new computer. I don't need to get a new computer, I find the computer I currently have runs all games to my satisfaction well all games except GTA 4 which used to run "reasonably well" till Rockstar Toronto started f*cking it up from patch 1.0.4.0 onwards.

 

Now I know enough of your history to know you will drag this f*cking argument on forever and ever and carry on derailing this topic. So if you wish you can have the final word on this, I personally don't care what someone with your level of arrogance has to say in reply to this post.

 

[jnzooger]

Then lower your settings and leave me alone. Yes I'm arrogant, but I'm also right. Clearly you have a problem with anyone that doesn't have a problem with GTA IV. Your previous posts show that. Almost every single one of them are trying to start an argument with the same Quote/nonscene/quote format.

 

I just said LOWER YOUR SETTINGS or get a new computer. Not flat out "get a new computer". So yes, if you want to continue this, by all means add another post to your GTA IV forum post count where you don't post anymore.

 

Oh, and the Madcatz problem has been solved btw.

 

For anyone who actually gives a damn about this game anymore, read the post by be before Charlie butted in.

Edited June 9, 2010 by jnzooger

[ceedj]

Jesus H, I'd never thought I'd see the day that I'd long for a Demarest post, but here it is.

 

You guys have a PM system, use it please.

 

Back on topic, I haven't gone to patch 7 on IV, but the second EFLC patch is worse than the first for me. The stuttering has returned, and the pop-in is awful now. Be nice if someone could engineer this to run like IV's patch 3 or 4.

[Jigglyass]

Then lower your settings and leave me alone. Yes I'm arrogant, but I'm also right. Clearly you have a problem with anyone that doesn't have a problem with GTA IV. Your previous posts show that. Almost every single one of them are trying to start an argument with the same Quote/nonscene/quote format.

 

I just said LOWER YOUR SETTINGS or get a new computer. Not flat out "get a new computer". So yes, if you want to continue this, by all means add another post to your GTA IV forum post count where you don't post anymore.

 

Oh, and the Madcatz problem has been solved btw.

 

For anyone who actually gives a damn about this game anymore, read the post by be before Charlie butted in.

Being arrogant does not mean you are right. It just shows that you're an ass and have no consent for others. If you were to be right, you would not continue this argument.

[jnzooger]

Then lower your settings and leave me alone. Yes I'm arrogant, but I'm also right. Clearly you have a problem with anyone that doesn't have a problem with GTA IV. Your previous posts show that. Almost every single one of them are trying to start an argument with the same Quote/nonscene/quote format.

 

I just said LOWER YOUR SETTINGS or get a new computer. Not flat out "get a new computer". So yes, if you want to continue this, by all means add another post to your GTA IV forum post count where you don't post anymore.

 

Oh, and the Madcatz problem has been solved btw.

 

For anyone who actually gives a damn about this game anymore, read the post by be before Charlie butted in.

Being arrogant does not mean you are right. It just shows that you're an ass and have no consent for others. If you were to be right, you would not continue this argument.

Arrogant and Right were two separate things. If arrogant = right, then every jackass would be right.

 

I was trying to help others. That is what I do. Some people just like to bash on Rockstar because they ignore him.

 

Back on topic:

I can see someone with a Core2 having memory issues with this game if they use an older motherboard. Just out of curiosity ceedj, what motherboard/cpu setup are you using?

[ceedj]

Nope, it's an OC'ed P4. Again, things run as well as they can with patch 4 (about 25 FPS) on IV, but EFLC gets worse and worse. I'm having a hard time justifying a major upgrade for one (or two) game(s). Dragon Age averages about 30ish with everything on nearly max, so I'd suggest that it's more to do with the game than my (admittedly old) hardware.

[joexaou]

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[jnzooger]

Nope, it's an OC'ed P4. Again, things run as well as they can with patch 4 (about 25 FPS) on IV, but EFLC gets worse and worse. I'm having a hard time justifying a major upgrade for one (or two) game(s). Dragon Age averages about 30ish with everything on nearly max, so I'd suggest that it's more to do with the game than my (admittedly old) hardware.

The new shadow system takes massive resources and the P4 use an outdated north bridge. I say that's most of the issue in your case. I'd guess that simply turning off shadows all together and putting everything else on low/medium would get your FPS back to at least 25, if not 30.

 

I will admit that I did upgrade for one or two games (GTA IV and Fallout 3) from an AMD Barton core 3200+ with GeForce 6200 graphics, 1GB DDR1 ram and Windows XP, to what I have now. However, I also downgraded to a Pentium 2 400 with Voodoo3 3000 graphics, 128MB SDRAM, and Windows 95 for about 10 games that I could no longer play in Vista 64.

 

Sometimes if the games are worth it, you do what you gotta do.

 

(I'm actually thinking I should upgrade my main rig again because I can't run hardly anything in nVidia 3D without problems, mainly due to my video card only having 896MB ram.)

[Yusof Amir]

(I'm actually thinking I should upgrade my main rig again because I can't run hardly anything in nVidia 3D without problems, mainly due to my video card only having 896MB ram.)

Yeah.but as you know frame buffer itself isnt sh*t.Bandwidth and Processing cores are very critical.For example a 9400 GT has 1 GB frame buffer(same as a 9600 GT)but compared to 9600 GT its trash.

[ecto741]

i am happy with my fps 29-30 is cool

Statistics

Average FPS: 29.59

Duration: 37.17 sec

CPU Usage: 99%

System memory usage: 51%

Video memory usage: 32%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1024 x 768 (85 Hz)

Texture Quality: Medium

Shadow Quality: Medium

Reflection Resolution: Medium

Water Quality: Medium

Texture Filter Quality: Anisotropic x8

Night Shadows: Off

View Distance: 21

Detail Distance: 46

 

Hardware

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition

Service Pack 3, v.3264

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT

Video Driver version: 197.45

Audio Adapter: Realtek HD Audio output

Intel Pentium III Xeon processor

 

i got 3gb ddr2 ram

and core 2 due 2.66

 

i agree shadows can make it lag or not put every thing on low anh shadows hige and c what happens low shadows and the grst high c what happens

 

 

[Yusof Amir]

i am happy with my fps 29-30 is cool

Statistics

Average FPS: 29.59

Duration: 37.17 sec

CPU Usage: 99%

System memory usage: 51%

Video memory usage: 32%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1024 x 768 (85 Hz)

Texture Quality: Medium

Shadow Quality: Medium

Reflection Resolution: Medium

Water Quality: Medium

Texture Filter Quality: Anisotropic x8

Night Shadows: Off

View Distance: 21

Detail Distance: 46

 

Hardware

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition

Service Pack 3, v.3264

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT

Video Driver version: 197.45

Audio Adapter: Realtek HD Audio output

Intel Pentium III Xeon processor

 

i got 3gb ddr2 ram

and core 2 due 2.66

 

i agree shadows can make it lag or not put every thing on low anh shadows hige and c what happens low shadows and the grst high c what happens

the games own benchmark tool is totally useless.if you wanna find the true fps start Fraps in background and play the game.any value lower than 30 FPS sucks.

[gh3860]

Thanks rockstar for the patch I could run my ATI Radoen HD4670 256mbgddr3 on high settings 20-25 fps.

[Simulated-AI]

I am ONLY complaining because with the new settings along with patch 6, the stutter is so heavy, the game is unplayable.

 

You have something that works, and now it doesn't!

I think its ok to complain then.

GTAIV Unplayable? Dude, you run GTAIV on a GTX285 (if it's true what's in your sig) and it stutters? Then you've must have been joked on, because seriously, I know I play on minimun, but it doesn't stutter or anything on a Radeon Mobility HD4200 + AMD Turion II 2.3 GHz. I can even crank some stuff up and still get from 15 to 25 FPS on the game (similar to the console version).

Thats why its so frustrating!

 

GTA 4 Patch 5 runs GREAT!

 

GTA 4 Patch 6 & 7 including EFLC runs TERRIBLE!

 

All other games run fine.

 

Maybe Rockstar should think a little about this...