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Canofceleri

Lucid Dreaming

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Canofceleri

I'd heard about it before, and my dream recall is hit or miss. A few days ago I read some tips about how to do it and didn't give it much thought. Last night I had the most fantastic experience that I have never been close to having. My wife has asthma and sometimes needs me to get up and get her inhaler. Well, last night she must have woken me in the middle of one of my REM cycles because when I went back to my dream it was the same but I remember vividly what I had been doing before I got woke up in the dream. I remembered flying in some beautiful place. And when I went back I realized that flying was hard. I realized that getting back into it, I'd have to try harder to fly. I could only fly so high and for so long and I'd sort of have to stop and try again. It was nuts and the whole time I was totally conscious of my place in this dream and of my actual waking life. It was very bad ass indeed.

 

Now I am really going to start trying to take this seriously and see how far I can go, really master this thing. You can seem to promote the memory functions to a higher level through sheer will.

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Banana

I've been really interesting in lucid dreaming myself and have tried hard, (and mostly failed) to lucid dream. I have had one happen very briefly before but that's pretty much it.

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freak2121

I had a very brief one, simply because everything in that dream was TOO real.The moment I realized it I woke up.

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Quiteso

I've only had one, and this was many years ago (back in year 6 or so tounge.gif). It just involved me going around my school at night, and there was a gathering of all the teachers wearing orange for some reason... Um, I can't remember too much now. There was also something involving an underground tunnel. Yeah.

 

But anyway, I'd be interested to have another one, it sounds very cool... but is it not dangerous in any way? I mean, what if you find yourself in a lucid dream, but it becomes a nightmare? Would you be able to force yourself awake? Could you control your surroundings and stop it from being a nightmare?

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I've only had one, and this was many years ago (back in year 6 or so tounge.gif). It just involved me going around my school at night, and there was a gathering of all the teachers wearing orange for some reason... Um, I can't remember too much now. There was also something involving an underground tunnel. Yeah.

 

But anyway, I'd be interested to have another one, it sounds very cool... but is it not dangerous in any way? I mean, what if you find yourself in a lucid dream, but it becomes a nightmare? Would you be able to force yourself awake? Could you control your surroundings and stop it from being a nightmare?

Lucid dreaming means you have full or at least partial control over the dream, so it really couldn't transform into a nightmare.

 

I dream lots. Probly 3 times a week I wake up and recount my dreams. I always want to do the lucid dream thing and have only accomplished it a few times.

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I've only had one, and this was many years ago (back in year 6 or so tounge.gif). It just involved me going around my school at night, and there was a gathering of all the teachers wearing orange for some reason... Um, I can't remember too much now. There was also something involving an underground tunnel. Yeah.

 

But anyway, I'd be interested to have another one, it sounds very cool... but is it not dangerous in any way? I mean, what if you find yourself in a lucid dream, but it becomes a nightmare? Would you be able to force yourself awake? Could you control your surroundings and stop it from being a nightmare?

Lucid dreaming means you have full or at least partial control over the dream, so it really couldn't transform into a nightmare.

 

I dream lots. Probly 3 times a week I wake up and recount my dreams. I always want to do the lucid dream thing and have only accomplished it a few times.

Yes it most definitely can. You can for example, decide that you want to kill a person in your dream, do so, and then the rest of the consequences and happen-stances of the dream may be out of control. I think I'd qualify going to death row as a "nightmare".

 

I'm not a person that practices lucid dreaming in the sense that I've read all about it, know all the terms, can teach it, and am involved in a lot of new-age, astral-projecting hoo-hah that so many people that talk about lucid dreaming seem to be.. However I do sleep a lot, and so I've had some very lucid dreams, and have a lot more insight into the subject than a lot of those previously mentioned people that proclaim themselves experts on the matter.

 

That being said, take this all anecdotally

 

Usually it happens when you're still in that stage of sleepiness where you're already dreaming, but you're kind of half conscious for some reason. Maybe too much light in the room, or like Cand said, some slight disturbance makes you a little bit more aware, and then you go right back to sleep.

 

Over the years I've noticed that once this happens, I can "pick up" where I left off, and in doing that I have a good bit of control over dreams, but not so much to where I can define the entire thing like the settings, what's happening, etc. More along the lines of I can react. I become aware of the fact that it is a dream, and I can make some conscious decisions, but I cannot project the course of the dream. For example, I can realize it is a dream and put a paint brush in my hand, but I cannot decide what to paint.

 

I'll give you an example...

 

You're dreaming you're making dinner, and you're about to get something out of the microwave when all the sudden you hear this buzzing, and you wake up and it's your alarm clock. So you hit the snooze, and you resume the dream, but all the sudden you notice something is wrong--you're pouring milk onto cold pizza. Your brain suddenly realizes, "Hey, I'm in a dream," and if you're lucky enough to realize, "Hey, I can do whatever I want right now," then you might be able to do a few willful things in the dream, like go and order a brand new pizza.

 

I'll just give a nice example of a dream I had the other night...

 

I don't really have much continuity in my dream so I'm not sure how it all started, but I was loading a revolver. Suddenly I realized, "Hey, I don't own a gun, or a revolver, and this is a gun I was looking at in the store the other day." Realizing it's a dream, and better yet a dream where I have something that I don't have now, I went along with it and had a wonderful time shooting random people, but it was never really a controlled thing. More like a, "Hey, I have a gun, what can I do with this since it's a dream and nothing matters?" However, when pulling the trigger, whether or not the person you're shooting at is going to get hit or you miss is still unpredictable, so it doesn't really feel like total control--more like an interactive story.

 

I have noticed that what happens in the rest of the dream is very dependent on your real life experience. For example: I've never shot a man. That being the case, when I shot a man in my dream, instead of seeing gore and bullet holes, and watching a man die, they simply dropped and I ran off. Because my mind has never truly experienced watching a man die of a gunshot-wound--sure it's seen it on TV, but it's never heard it, or smelled it, or maybe even felt the physiological changes that happen when you take life--my brain really doesn't know how to replicate it. However I've seen plenty of times on TV it end in an impersonal way, the person dropping, the suspect taking off; my mind knows perfectly how to replicate that.

 

One of the things that I find easiest to "recognize" in dreams as anomalous and use to trigger a lucid event is the architecture of houses and living quarters. In my dreams they usually tend to be different than any place I live in, and are kind of a hodg-podge of characteristics from several different places I frequent often. So for example, if I walk out of my friend's living room, into my other friend's backyard, yet I'm at my house in the dream, I know something is up.

 

It's unfortunate that my dreams are never something cool like flying. Just mundane bullsh*t.

 

 

One thing that bothers me about lucid dreaming is feeling like you don't know whether you're awake or asleep. I mean, I'm not speaking philosophically, "What if life was one big dream?" I mean during moments of great stress... Specifically for me, after the loss of my parents and about a week of no sleep, life began to feel a bit like a dream; then when life would become a little less surreal feeling and feel normal, I felt as if I was dreaming and just having a lucid moment. Hard to describe, but it's literally like living a dream.

 

In any case, I kind of question how the human mind differentiates between consciousness and unconscious. The distinguishing factors between the two can be so vague at times, that at some points it makes one question just how meaningful life is that it can be so closely reproduced in one's own mind.

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i always had control over my dreams since a long time ago, Oh well it's a good thing for nightmares but since i managed to have this ability i think i dream less, and it also makes my dreams kinda shorter, too much unconscious awareness i got used too :\

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I'd heard about it before, and my dream recall is hit or miss. A few days ago I read some tips about how to do it and didn't give it much thought. Last night I had the most fantastic experience that I have never been close to having. My wife has asthma and sometimes needs me to get up and get her inhaler. Well, last night she must have woken me in the middle of one of my REM cycles because when I went back to my dream it was the same but I remember vividly what I had been doing before I got woke up in the dream. I remembered flying in some beautiful place. And when I went back I realized that flying was hard. I realized that getting back into it, I'd have to try harder to fly. I could only fly so high and for so long and I'd sort of have to stop and try again. It was nuts and the whole time I was totally conscious of my place in this dream and of my actual waking life. It was very bad ass indeed.

 

Now I am really going to start trying to take this seriously and see how far I can go, really master this thing. You can seem to promote the memory functions to a higher level through sheer will.

I've been suffering from Lucid Nightmares for years, Now I'm starting to understand them more and am trying to learn to control them. I started last night, trying a certain method in which you go straight conciousness in a Lucid dream. I think it's called a WILD (Wake Induced Lucid Dream)

 

I've been having uncontrollable nightmares for years and I'm finally startin to understand the concept and process of it. I successfully tried the WILD last night. Here's what happened:

 

I did the technique, impatiently waiting for it to happen. I did it all perfectly - I closed my eyes and just said 'f*ck!'. Woke up, sat up; sighed and decided to go and get a glass of milk. I headed downstairs - everything looking the same. Opened the fridge and poured the milk, I thought: if I was dreaming this f*ckin' milk would turn into concrete.

 

Immediately the carton got heavy and a thick sludge eeked out. I was amazed, but the problem realising you're THAT lucid is that it shocks your body awake. When you first realise you're awake, you have to be calm. But now that I'm starting to understand Lucid's fully I am going to start experimenting and developing this wonderful skill to cure my horrible nightmares.

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Weirdo.

I can get myself to have a lucid dream if I try telling myself to have one before I sleep.

 

When I do have lucid dreams, I just fly my gold-plated tyrannosaurus rex to the highest sky-scraper and jump off just so I can get the jolt when I wake up.

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Tom Toole

I am currently lucid dreaming that I am typing on this computer right in front of me answering a guy who wrote some stuff about lucid dreaming - these lucid dreams tend to repeat themselves endlessly. I just don't want another matrix you know. My life is enought of a manufactured f*cking wet dream for me to want desire lust for a f*cking fake desert.

 

I still dont see how this is a f*cking debate.

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Saggy

 

I am currently lucid dreaming that I am typing on this computer right in front of me answering a guy who wrote some stuff about lucid dreaming - these lucid dreams tend to repeat themselves endlessly. I just don't want another matrix you know. My life is enought of a manufactured f*cking wet dream for me to want desire lust for a f*cking fake desert.

 

I still dont see how this is a f*cking debate.

Edit: I'm an asshole

 

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So it doesn't really have to be a debate.

 

 

Though I don't think you get the idea of lucid dreams if you think it's just so people can have sex dreams. I never get laid in mine, lucid or not. lol

 

 

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Claude Speed.

I can see that some people very rarely if ever have lucid dreams. I asked people I know about it too and they said they either don't remember or they didn't have any.

 

I used to have bad dreams that used to repeat for days and inside the dream I would close my eyes and shake my head and then I would wake up.

 

But most recently I've had some amazing flying lucid dreaming or not lucid sometimes. Last time I was at my grandma's place and I was looking at the big mountain in front of her house and then I flew all the way up to it. The sensation of flying is so kickass! Whenever I wanted to fly in a dream I had to run and jump to start flying.

 

But the weirdest stuff I did back when I was younger was to tell the people in the dream that the dream reality was a dream. Their reaction was random, usually running from me.

 

I wish there was a way to record dreams.

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Dunpeal

I'm a diagnosed insomniac, and daydream quite frequently during work and home hours. Every single one has been a Lucid dream.

 

I can tell you that I love them. But they can go so so badly.

 

One time a guy tried to snap me out of it, cos I was making weird noises he said, and when I came to I socked him in the jaw as a reflex to what was going on in my dream.

 

I remember the dream in its entirety when I come to and go about my day thinking about them.

 

Um, If anyone want's to know anything please feel free to ask.

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I am currently lucid dreaming that I am typing on this computer right in front of me answering a guy who wrote some stuff about lucid dreaming - these lucid dreams tend to repeat themselves endlessly. I just don't want another matrix you know. My life is enought of a manufactured f*cking wet dream for me to want desire lust for a f*cking fake desert.

 

I still dont see how this is a f*cking debate.

Edit: I'm an asshole

 

P.S.

Debates & Discussions

 

So it doesn't really have to be a debate.

 

 

Though I don't think you get the idea of lucid dreams if you think it's just so people can have sex dreams. I never get laid in mine, lucid or not. lol

You're not an asshole - I am as much of an asshole as you are. Which is to say - I am as much of a human being as you are. Which is to say - you did as well as you could, and I am also doing as well as I can.

 

Ummm...

 

So - in your post you suggest this might be a discussion? I don't think it is dear KJB, a discussion involves opposing viewpoints, or at least you know - I hear what you say but I think this other way - and the way this is going is more like - I think this way - I think that way - We all think this other way - in other words, this is like off-topic chat. And I would like to note that this is supposed to be NOT off-topic.

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Saggy
I am currently lucid dreaming that I am typing on this computer right in front of me answering a guy who wrote some stuff about lucid dreaming - these lucid dreams tend to repeat themselves endlessly. I just don't want another matrix you know. My life is enought of a manufactured f*cking wet dream for me to want desire lust for a f*cking fake desert.

 

I still dont see how this is a f*cking debate.

Edit: I'm an asshole

 

P.S.

Debates & Discussions

 

So it doesn't really have to be a debate.

 

 

Though I don't think you get the idea of lucid dreams if you think it's just so people can have sex dreams. I never get laid in mine, lucid or not. lol

You're not an asshole - I am as much of an asshole as you are. Which is to say - I am as much of a human being as you are. Which is to say - you did as well as you could, and I am also doing as well as I can.

 

Ummm...

 

So - in your post you suggest this might be a discussion? I don't think it is dear KJB, a discussion involves opposing viewpoints, or at least you know - I hear what you say but I think this other way - and the way this is going is more like - I think this way - I think that way - We all think this other way - in other words, this is like off-topic chat. And I would like to note that this is supposed to be NOT off-topic.

Well, I guess there's no real place explaining this, but the general consensus everyone here seems to follow is that it's either a "debate" which you've already talked about, or a "discussion" which I suppose is better thought of just a conversation on the same subject, or just general bullsh*tting really.

 

The only reason you might find "discussions" like this in D&D as opposed to say General Chat, is beacuse D&D is better suited to large, indepth, specific things like lucid dreaming. If for example, people just wanted to post dreams they had, they could do that in General Chat. However, D&D provides a venue for more indepth conversation about say, what dreams are, how we control them, etc. Of course as you can see not everyone contributes that much; there use to be a bit more moderation done on this, which ensured people would contribute more than just one liners or the like.

 

In the end not everything can be a debate anyway (unless someone plays devil's advocate), there have been times here where no one even disagrees with each other and so the entirety of the thread is just one person chiming in to say another thing. The real reason to put it in D&D instead of General Chat, is beacuse you go to D&D expecting in depth substanse like that; you go to General Chat expecting bullsh*ttery.

 

Anyway, that's just how it gets moderated (usually, seem to be a little bit of slack there recentley ), and it's how a lot of the posts in here are.

 

 

Anyway, that was horrendously off-topic, PM me if you wanna talk about that some more.

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Anyway, that was horrendously off-topic, PM me if you wanna talk about that some more.

That was actually not off topic - it was about whether this topic is a debate or not. NOT off topic - although it could belong in off topic general chat - if that's what you're interested in. Hey it could also belong here. It belongs where it is.

 

And MODs can PM me with any questions they may or may not have over any questions or requirements they do or don't have. As well as anybody else- I am not going to meet you in RL but if you want to flirt - feel free, or if you have a personal question - you can PM me, yeah no problem.

 

umm...

 

yeah I ran out of things to say here.

 

Maybe something going back to the topic of the topic? Lucid Dreaming - reminds me of LSD - anybody tasted LSD here? - I just remember this book about the biker angels who took LSD with the hippies and were a very different kind of alternative society. You know the hippies were all about this kind of peace-loving experimentation with drugs, right? The Biker Gang was also very interested, but in a different way - in a more violent, more out of control way.

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Maybe something going back to the topic of the topic? Lucid Dreaming - reminds me of LSD - anybody tasted LSD here? - I just remember this book about the biker angels who took LSD with the hippies and were a very different kind of alternative society. You know the hippies were all about this kind of peace-loving experimentation with drugs, right? The Biker Gang was also very interested, but in a different way - in a more violent, more out of control way.

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Maybe something going back to the topic of the topic? Lucid Dreaming - reminds me of LSD - anybody tasted LSD here? - I just remember this book about the biker angels who took LSD with the hippies and were a very different kind of alternative society. You know the hippies were all about this kind of peace-loving experimentation with drugs, right? The Biker Gang was also very interested, but in a different way - in a more violent, more out of control way.

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Lucid dreaming is amazing. I usually have semi-lucid dreams where my dreams are so life like that I feel that I'm actually awake and everythings really going on. Very rarely will something happen that clicks and makes me realize that wow, I'm in a dream lol. When you reach that point you can control everything but not directly, its weird. Its like some real life rules still apply, such as you cant suddenly make yourself appear in a forest, you have to persay drive 5 miles that direction to get to your imaginary forest.. very strange.

 

Tips on inducing lucid dreaming while in your dream, they're called reality tests:

1. Plug your both your nostrils independently with both thumbs, if you're able to still breath through you're dreaming

2. Flip a light switch in your dream, for some reason electric circuitry doesn't apply in dreams, very cool yet strange as well.

3. Look at a digital clock, check the time and look away. Look back at that same clock and the time will have changed or simply the display will be very distorted.

umm theres a few more just can't think of them off the top of my head..

 

What helps with the reality tests though is todo them them during the day while awake when something strange happens, it gets your mind used to doing reality check and they'll be easier for you todo in your dreams.

Lastly, watch Waking Life, very amazing movie. If you're somewhat interested in lucid dreaming watch this movie, its great and you wont regret it.

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Hello !

I am also a new member. Would a newcomer be warmly welcome here? Good day you guy !

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I've only had one, and this was many years ago (back in year 6 or so tounge.gif). It just involved me going around my school at night, and there was a gathering of all the teachers wearing orange for some reason... Um, I can't remember too much now. There was also something involving an underground tunnel. Yeah.

 

But anyway, I'd be interested to have another one, it sounds very cool... but is it not dangerous in any way? I mean, what if you find yourself in a lucid dream, but it becomes a nightmare? Would you be able to force yourself awake? Could you control your surroundings and stop it from being a nightmare?

Lucid dreaming means you have full or at least partial control over the dream, so it really couldn't transform into a nightmare.

 

I dream lots. Probly 3 times a week I wake up and recount my dreams. I always want to do the lucid dream thing and have only accomplished it a few times.

No, it means you are aware you are dreaming while dreaming. Dream control is what makes lucid dreams fun; if you are having a lucid dream, you can control your dream.

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