Better storyline,TBOGT or TLAD?

[imphranki]

Elizabeta gives Johnny Roman's number as word of mouth. Mallorie is close to Elizabeta, so passing the number along will help her boyfriend (Roman)'s cab business. I guess it was suppose to be coincidence that you have to kidnap Roman later on. If I wasn't given the number by Elizabeta, I would've never tried calling the cab depot as another way to complete the mission. It was only my third playthrough that I realized you can call Roman to pick you up instead of having to drive all the way from Algonquin to Broker, and then to Bohan.

 

As for the timeline... it's a videogame, it can't be perfect. Even movies these days have mistakes here and there. I believe Rockstar finished GTAIV before finishing TLAD so it would be difficult to make everything coherent.

 

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And regarding Bulgarian killing Luis at his house... Will you kill someone at your house, leaving evidence and a body at your house? It just wouldn't be wise to do so, no matter how crazy Bulgarian was. And his house is right in Meadows Park, don't think a gunshot would go unnoticed. If his house was in Broker, then... that'll be a different story.

 

And sending him to the rooftop kind, Bulgarian wants Luis to know the mistake he made for f***ing him over. I do agree with you on one thing, sending snipers, a helicopter and foot soldiers is a tad much.

[Merlena]

I first played TBOGT, got no idea why, done in 12 hours, enojying Liberty City as it's over a year since I played the original. The club management thing, drug wars, and not to mention the base jumps were just boring content added to the game. They added this due to the fact that GTA IV (the original) had nothing to do after you completeled the story line, however the TBOGT content was pretty much boring.

 

The story line of TBOGT: Was a typical Grand Theft Auto story, and it wasen't really "complete", you'll notice this when you play through it the second time.

Weapons: Some new weapons, exploding shotgun shells was a cool addon, as well as the N.O.O.S.E tank, so hilarious driving it at top speed crashing into cars, as it's so powerful; and the cannon basically deforms the cars.

Helicopters, cars, bikes: I was impressed that they finally at least added the armored helicopter you steal for Yusuf, an other minor fun change, as well as it's pretty fast. Regarding cars, Grand Theft Auto games has a weird setting of spawning cars; in all GTA games, even GTA 1. The car you're driving is always respawning much frequently on the street. For instance if you drive the Inferno, suddenly you see almost everyone driving an Inferno, if you change your car to a Taxi Cab, you'll see cabs at every corner, when GTA IV was released I thought they fixed this, as it was awful annoying in San Andreas, but no.

Bikes in TBOGT was the standard bikes that have always been in the Grand Theft Auto series, even from Vice City, the same old somewhat-equal names, as well as looks/handling.

 

Story line of TLAD, as I played this secondly, I felt it was a bit more interesting than TBOGT being a body guard running nightclubs (duuh). You're actually in a MC bikers gang, just beating up people, killing people, taking their smack, selling smack, selling blow, a lot more drug referances that was quite funny; as when Billy tells Dave that he mixed mescaline with the weed, and told Johnny he was tripping his face off made my laugh so hard. When I first saw Ashley I thought: "Ahh, there's that methamphetamine junkie from GTA IV, in one of the cutscenes when you're Niko doing missions for Ray. As TLAD progresses, everytime you have to get Ashley out of something, it's always ice, ice, ice (methamphetamine), another quite strong referance in the game, and you can actually see that she's an heavy abuser having skin wounds and white/bleak face, just as you look at a amphetamine "crash", as you haven't eaten, and the body creates skin rash due to side-effects, making wounds.

 

However, I felt that TLAD was a bit "empty" sort of "short" on features then what TBOGT had, but I quickly realized it was quite equal. Honestly, TLAD was more "badass" than what TBOGT was anyway, Johnny is a way more supirior protogantist than Luis in TBOGT, he almost took over Tommy Vercitti in Vice City, which honestly is the most awesome protogantist in the Grand Theft Auto series so far.

 

Regarding bikes/choppers/cars in TLAD: Bikes! There was a lot of different MC-bikes, however not many of the hairdry bikes. As the handling on these MC bikes was very much improved from GTA IV, I enjoyed every second riding on one of the choppers.

 

Having that said, the characters was also a bit more "connected" in TLAD than in TBOGT. For instance: TBOGT: Your Mom is just "dead" after the three first missions, Tony is just annoying and the all the missions you do with him is just weird that he even can be assed. Yusuf was an awesome, probably the most awesome character in Grand Theft Auto so far. Armando and Henrique are just boring to do missions for, especially the drug wars. Luis clearly states that he don't want to get locked up again due to drug dealing, I respect his mind on that, but you still have the choice to do over countless of drug wars, and these are the standard: Go there, kill those guys, take their car, bring it to a lock up. I mean, that was standard in GTA III, and in the previous games it was actually challenging, not in Grand Theft Auto: TBOGT.

 

I also found TLAD a bit harder on certain points than TBOGT. (You guys having problems driving the helicopter for Yusuf... learn how to play games). TLAD, Billy, and not the mention Johnny were great characters I kinda recognized myself in. Luis is just out of order on that thought. Billy was hilarious, his sarcasm was just obsolutely win, when he opened his mouth I was always excited what bull-crap he had to put out. He was even hilarious the first scene you see him with: "Yes boss." - "Excuse me?" - "Uhh, yes, sir?". Rofl..

 

TLAD was more "brutal" in a way, much more drug referances, smuggling, profanity; that actually suits a game. TBOGT had a lot of profanity as well, but some of it was just out of order and boring. Like giving it out on girls in the bathroom during the club dances is nothing new, and doesn't belong in a Grand Theft Auto game.

 

The only "awesome" missions TBOGT actually had to offer was the Bulgarian, russian mob objectives, they were just out of hand, and extremely fun. Especially "Going Deep", and I loved how they talked, their acsent, and how they instructed Luis. Still Luis was denying them. If you had more of a choice, doing missions for the russians would be far more interesting than for Tony, which is just complaining you you're basically wiping his ass, due the mess he's caused.

 

TLAD > TBOGT even though TBOGT had a few extra features.

Edited May 16, 2010 by Merlena

[gtapcgamer]

Yes. TLAD was kinda boring. TBoGT was way better, not only by the story line, but also the game play.

[imphranki]

I also found TLAD a bit harder on certain points than TBOGT. (You guys having problems driving the helicopter for Yusuf... learn how to play games). TLAD, Billy, and not the mention Johnny were great characters I kinda recognized myself in. Luis is just out of order on that thought. Billy was hilarious, his sarcasm was just obsolutely win, when he opened his mouth I was always excited what bull-crap he had to put out. He was even hilarious the first scene you see him with: "Yes boss." - "Excuse me?" - "Uhh, yes, sir?". Rofl..

 

It was "Yes Daddy." =P

 

Yea, I love the Billy Grey character. I'm on my 4th playthrough, trying to get every little bit of detail from Weazel news, phone conversations, email and other bits. There are two instances where Billy texts you in the game. One instructing you to visit Elizabeta to trigger "Buyer's Market", and another that triggers "This Sh*ts Cursed". If you haven't already, you should call Billy after these texts. =)

[rodrigox]

TBOGT is better.

[Tivo222]

TBOGT is better.

Yes it is

 

But that post could be a bit better if you explain why you think it is

[SpEJay]

As the topic is just about the storyline between the both... TLAD is far grittier, more so than main IV, infact it makes niko look like a cute walky holdy handy guy.... Grittier makes me happy, but that's my opinion. ANYWAY....

 

TLAD inspires my imagination, the amount of storyline which could of been there and expanded on, infact making a hugely amazing full game by itself with Ashley being a huge centerpiece with her troubles and pulling out a few epic moments that are missing from TLAD with the MC wars which could of been, no doubt this totally out-weighs TBOGT for me.

 

TBOGT is more a silly little add on for those who want to be reminded why S.A is a step back in time, and those who dearly miss S.A and require stupid amounts of jetpack nothingness to entertain there less than adult minds.

 

As a full nearing middle aged adult male, i have no appreciation for a sub-par story with random things like a fight club and parachutes and over powered guns chucked in for laughs.... Iam not saying TBOGT was sh*t, iam just saying it reminds me why S.A should never make a return, and neither should over the top stuff, i like gritty or i like original GTA humour with the daft things to do..

 

The story represents the above things i said, in TBOGT there is nothing spectacular about the story, fair enough it ties up loose ends with the trinity and stuff, but the rest is so-so, night club stuff is an hour or two of happyness, Tony is fun for a while, but done in IV with nikos gay mate haha, and then theres boring drug wars after you seen the small variety, the pointless back story of luis and totally lacking imagination of the mix of characters which doesn't blend, at all.

 

All in all, TBOGT adds some fun for a while toys, storyline is rubbish compared to TLAD, and i don't see any reason for the next installments of GTA to go back in time and follow on with that trash.. RDR has now set the footpath to open world story & fun stuff which is the complete right direction, and if you compare any storylines from any R* game, i would pretty much agree with myself that TBOGT is probably the worse chucked together of the lot.

 

My opinion.

[na89340qv0n34b09q340]

TLAD was one of the most boring games i've ever played, they didn't add any new multiplayer stuff that made me happy, the missions were pretty much "drive here" "shoot this" "now drive over there" the characters were boring and had no life to them and it never felt right riding a baiti custom while wearing The Lost biker gang uniform. When i finished i felt like...

 

I really loved TBoGT it made me feel great playing it but seemed a bit too easy as it was the first game i finished without cheats I also loved the fight club and the Night clubs they both were so apart from each other yet came together to create a sort of Liberty City underground and the missions made me feel like James Bond although hijacking a train and throwing someone out of a helicopter and then saving their life seem a bit impossible. Also the STICKY BOMBS were my favorite weapon in San Andreas so I'm glad they made a return

Edited June 13, 2010 by zoo3891

[Anasterian]

TLaD was fun in the "good story and gameplay" way, while TBoGT was fun in the "main protagonist kills 5890235809238509238509258 people, including cops, explodes stuff, etc, and gets away with it somehow" way.

[MaddenedGhost]

THE BALLAD OF GAY TONY IS THE BEST

[DetociC]

^This-yes

[--Vega--]

TBOGT just because I hate the thought of playing as a hoosier biker in a biker gang.

[mate]

I'm only about halfway through TBoGT right now, but I got so immersed into the TLaD story that when I finished the last mission, I wanted more. I just couldn't get enough! I thought the story was awesome. But TBoGT seems alright so far (certainly funnier than TLaD, just a weaker story I think).

[fgcarva1]

Obviously TLAD has a better storyline. The internal conflicts in the gang add the whole feeling of their lifestyle and MC members.

 

I love TBOGT also, but I think R* focused on the new features and made the storyline go along with the new features instead of having the features go along with the storyline.

 

TBOGT is basically you doing some missions for a scared gay guy who can't do sh*t by himself, especially since half of the DLC is based on the diamond trade for Gracie Ancellotti although R* tried to fit in some dull missions for characters like Mori and some fun missions for Yusuf.

 

 

TLAD was one of the most boring games i've ever played, they didn't add any new multiplayer stuff that made me happy, the missions were pretty much "drive here" "shoot this" "now drive over there" the characters were boring and had no life to them and it never felt right riding a baiti custom while wearing The Lost biker gang uniform. When i finished i felt like...   

 

I really loved TBoGT it made me feel great playing it but seemed a bit too easy as it was the first game i finished without cheats  I also loved the fight club and the Night clubs they both were so apart from each other yet came together to create a sort of Liberty City underground and the missions made me feel like James Bond although hijacking a train and throwing someone out of a helicopter and then saving their life seem a bit impossible. Also the STICKY BOMBS were my favorite weapon in San Andreas so I'm glad they made a return

 

Please get the f*ck out of the STORYLINE topic with your GAMEPLAY arguments.

 

Thanks

Edited April 17, 2011 by fgcarva1

[OGIamLoco]

TLAD, definitely best story.

[Magic_Al]

TLAD was more ambitious. Several odd cuts in the story give the impression that Rockstar over-developed the story and characters and then had to cut to fit the budget.

 

TBoGT seems much more by-the-numbers, like Rockstar knew from the the experience of TLAD exactly how much content to create and plugged in story to fit. Things seem a little forced perhaps because we are normally not aware of a GTA being made-to-order for a certain amount of money because we don't have something to directly compare it to like we can compare TBOGT and TLAD.

 

Armando & Henrique seem shallow because they really don't have much to do with the story compared to Terry and Clay in TLAD and so it seems like they run out of things to say and you run out of reasons to care about them. I don't know that A&H's Drug Wars dialog is actually any less repetitive than T&C's Gang Wars dialog but I know I don't care about A&H as much.

[EDDS]

TBOGT was the best, the story was much better than TLAD.

 

When TLAD came out I thought it was amazing, but after TBOGT was released I realised that TLAD was nothing special.

 

The whole biker thing just didn't do it for me, it reminds me of that south park episode with all the douche bags on their Harleys, those are the type of people I would imagine to like TLAD.

[TacoGuy]

After i finished the TLAD story i sort of thought that it wasn't enough but the story was also pretty boring. Mainly because of the fact it was, drive here. kill this guy. drive here. The bike races and escaping from jail were good though. After i finished the story i sorta just went straight to TBoGT though, because there wasn't that much to do.

 

TBoGT was just extremely fun! The storyline, to me, felt more thought out. Although some of the characters were a bit shallow, as if i didn't know them at all. Doing the triathlon with Mori and the bit where you follow mori and brucie in a bullet was also extremely fun! Yusef's missions were the best of all in the game. After i finished the game there were still lots of things to do as well.

 

Overall, ima have to say i preffered TBoGT.

[Ash_735]

I still stand by TLAD, TBOGT story was just utter crap with only a few decent characters, the rest of them were like they came from Jersey Shore or "How To Be Gangsta 101". Mission wise TBOGT was much more varied, but unlike GTA IV and TLAD, it felt as if the missions were made first and a story was threw together at the last moment to fit around that.

 

The original storyline would have been more interesting to see, but from looking at this thread, having another "dull" story might have been too much for gamers here.

[Mcquiz]

I prefer TBOGT because it was funny, story was not predictable.

[Algonquin Assassin]

TLAD hands down. Ok the story was predictable in some parts, but has anyone actually seen a biker movie, or TV series? (Sons Of Anarchy comes to mind). Typically biker theme stories aren't the most complicated, or throw twists to keep the viewer thinking. They're straight forward, and that's exactly how it was done in TLAD.

 

I just feel it blended in so much better with the tone of GTA IV's story. TBOGT felt like the odd one out, and IMO the features that were added to TBOGT compensated for the shallow story line.

 

In the TLAD I actually cared about what was happening around Johnny. With TBOGT I didn't care what was happening around Luis as he was a douche that I felt no connection with.

 

Overall to me I think TLAD tied in with GTA IV so much better. TBOGT was fun when it came to the missions themselves. I just had no interest in the story itself.

 

TLAD's story>TBOGT's story.

Edited June 2, 2011 by Miamivicecity

[Sanjeem]

Tbogt, I enjoyed killing Bulgarin after the nasty stories I heard about him and Niko Bellic.

[WorldofCog]

TBoGT had a better, funner, and more varied storyline, but don't get me wrong, I also like TLaD's storyline, but it felt kinda short and predictable.

[MAN IN THE DARK]

Edited June 28, 2011 by MAN IN THE DARK

[Son Edo]

TBOGT unlocked some plotholes from the main story and was more interesting to see what ends up happening to certain events. Diamonds, Bulgarin etc.

[brucewayne909]

In my opinion, TLAD hands down had a better story. It was much deeper whereas TBOGT was all over the place and seemed to be hastily put together.

 

That having been said, I think TBOGT is funner to play overall. The missions are over the top and crazy. I think that was Rockstar's intention. They probably intentionally chose gameplay over story when making TBOGT.

 

As for TLAD being predictable, I knew Tony would end up killing Bulgarin as soon as he showed up in TBOGT. He was the only major loose end not resolved by IV or TLAD. I also didn't like what they did to Bulgarin's character in TBOGT. He went from being the scary, menacing antagonist in IV to a rock and roll loving whacko in TBOGT.

[AceRay]

I also didn't like what they did to Bulgarin's character in TBOGT. He went from being the scary, menacing antagonist in IV to a rock and roll loving whacko in TBOGT.

I know right? He was supposed to be tough but he was was complaining about his sister living upstairs. I turned off after there.

 

Lost MC forever. I loved it.

[MegaCam]

I prefered TLAD.

 

Probably because I like the biker theme way more than the club theme. IMO I hated doing the missions for TBoGT other than Yusif's because it all seemed like boring mainstream generic junk. Clubs, the blah music, preppy clothes, Luis' insanely boring character, not that interesting storyline, just didn't really do it for me.

 

I'm just a bike/leather jacket kinda guy. I loved riding all the new bikes, the biker clothes for the player models, the cool new cars, the new stuff on Liberty Rock Radio, the hardass kindof image, really.

 

Wish some of the TLAD stuff was mixed with the TBoGT stuff. Guess you can't have the best of both worlds.

 

 

Sorry if my post was slightly off topic. It's kindof hard for me to base my opinion strictly on the storyline content.

[Finn 7 five 11]

I hate Ballad of Gay tony on multiplayer because there's only like 4 games you can play on multiplayer- I think they should have came up with some more multiplayer games that tie into the storyline of the game.

i think the topic was about storyline not multi-player games

Exactly, thats why i am going to have to say that TLADs story was better, i found the voice acting for TLAD better, and it was interesting that a motorcycle gang hanging out together were divided, it was kinda sad to see it split apart, and how much of a Cocksucker brian was gave you determination to kill the f*cker.

Then the ending, wow, i loved the ending it really ended with style. The guitar and harmonica made a sound that you would associate with "i guess this is it, game over, it was good while it lasted" man that really was a great way to finish off the game

[brucewayne909]

Should have made this a poll!