Corndawg93 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Can we expect anytime soon that you will type/write City Of Lies 2 in the near future??? Well it's in the planning stages. The first chapter is done but it's an intro. The story will span from there. It's NOT a sequel of COL. I'm calling it an 'alteruel' as it takes place at the same time as COL but this time follows the REVENGE endin of IV. The coin is flipped. THAMES remains my priority; I need to get it done, and the recent setback has not helped. I'll still work on COL2 intermittently but TC is the focus. Unfortunately I can't say 'it'll be done by xxx' I can suggest to follow THAMES and that'll give an indication as to how close col2 is Good, Good Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1060674015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbranston Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Has anyone made a machinima of this, i would love to see one! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1060895166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Has anyone made a machinima of this, i would love to see one! Nah. I thought about it but it was impractical. Only on the PC - with mods to support various aspects - would it be possible and i think it'd end up being likemost game-cum-films. I'd be stoked if anyone redid some of the scenes, but tbh i don't think i'd want to see the whole thing done. Thanks for the interest btw Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1060895222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megahypernova Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I Finished It, And Might I Say Great Job!!!!!! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1060956697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 I Finished It, And Might I Say Great Job!!!!!! hey, you're back! Thanks! Won the award too Thanks for your support Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1060956869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINKbubblegum Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 holy cow, i started at about the last 3 "missions" , and now i have to start from the beginning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1061242024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 ha I hope you haven't ruined the ending for yourself! I hope you enjoy it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1061242161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted August 23, 2012 Author Share Posted August 23, 2012 I'm aware this is a bump, but i've made a PDF version of this story, available here: http://sdrv.ms/Noabpd Thanks to Cammi for his help i setting that up Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1061620364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansgas1000 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Can you make a blurb please Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1062142806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/GTA_Fan_Fiction You'll find one on there May I ask why? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1062142870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kifflom112 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I just finished reading this and must say, what a truly magnificent story. I was surprised by the emding though. Very wonderful story. Gnocchi Flip Flops 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1062277830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 Thank you man. It pleases me to know people are still reading this. I should crack on with my next project so I can give you all something new! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1062278644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I hate to bump this but it's always a good read. Just finished it for the 2nd and a half time - I tried reading it last year but got too busy - and I dragged it out for 7 weeks. Now I'm going to read Justice in Flames all over again. Mokrie Dela and albanyave 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1068053725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonox Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I've recently finished reading this. Quite the experience, I must say. Now even though my upcoming review may seem negative and cynical, I'd like to make it clear that if I didn't like it, I would never have gone this far. Right, some spoiler-free critique first. I thought the in-game characters were pretty well spot-on. The descriptions were usually simplistic, but you didn't waste time with unnecessarily long blabbering, which helps keep interest up as something's pretty much always happening. Though sometimes the language use was too repetitive - it caught my eye that you said "fired" almost every time someone fired a gun. There's probably not many synonyms for that, but some kinda colorful indication of shooting would've made those sections less tedious. Spoilerific content: - It's not really your fault, but because of the overused feel of the trope, I kinda could see it coming that the distorted voice would belong to a woman. - Speaking of the Voice, another issue of mine was that much of the plot consisted of mission after mission for them, with no explanation of what's going on. The plot sure advances faster and makes the reader anticipate the grand revelation (I imagine this was what you aimed for) but I personally found myself forgetting about half the details by the time we got to that part, due to those missions feeling disconnected and forgettable. Kinda like the assassination sub-missions now that I think of it - How come Johnny was named as a casualty in chapter 7 if he ended up surviving? I thought those in charge of identifying victims would at least make sure they're definitely dead before stating it on the news. Yeah, just bugs me. - The unnamed man that Niko, Johnny and Luis encounter in the end felt like a walking cliché to me. From uttering Niko's full name as he arrives to acting high, mighty and dismissive even at gunpoint, and finally insulting Johnny's dead brother like a school kid - that part could've been written a lot better, that's for sure. As for what happens in the ending, I guess that's up to my imagination. Personally I'd hope for Niko to finish Johnny off as his life's already ruined and he deserves better than the bitchy death at Trevor's hands, assuming that meth-headed bully is even canon to this story. As for Niko, eh, he could still manage as long as he's got Brucie, Jacob and the likes around him. And I so should've seen the title drop coming at the final sentence. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1069086077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 Yeah the guy at the end is probably my biggest regret in this story. Was, in hindsight, halfassed; a throwaway character that, thinking about it, had no real chance for development. I deliberately avoided having the bad guy as someone Niko etc knew - instead I wanted to have him as a completely unknown; he was behind it all, but to Niko, he was as interesting and memorable as you found him - in a way that was deliberate (though poorly done as you identified). Thing is, I've noticed that I'm almost heralded as this writing deity by some and I know some people think I've been writing for like fifty years. I've been writing for about 16, but City of Lies and Justice in Flames show my growth as a writer. I'm not this super perfect craftsman, but as you can see from the critiques in here and JIF (it's important to read them!), I have grown a lot. So the cliches, the laziness (fired!!!!) or what have you, it's a sign of (I hope) how I've grown, if that makes sense. This still remains something I'm immensely proud of and I do feel JIF surpassed it. However I've gone too long not writing and I only hope COL2 can at least equal these two stories (which reminds me, I have to get chapter II up). Even now, about six years later (Jesus f*cking Christ!) it still means the world to me that someone's read this, especially with my negligence in offering in depth feedback on others' As for the 'mission' structure you mentioned - it was kind of intended; partly as a homage to the tried and tested GTA-format, partly because I loved the 'professional' vibe GTA iv had with some missions and assassination missions (at least in my play style) and my wish to expand one of my all time favourite games. As previously said about my 'growth', it's clear in this story that I was still learning. Indeed I will still be learning while COL2 is active. I'm not a university-learned writer. Aside from school, I am entirely self-taught - that is until I posted City of lies. Just by writing you can improve but as you'll see in here and JIF, feedback is crucial! Thanks for the reply and feedback. I'll warn you though: JIF is about 3 times longer, and COL2 is looking to be unintentionally longer still! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1069086120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonox Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Thanks for the reply and feedback. I'll warn you though: JIF is about 3 times longer, and COL2 is looking to be unintentionally longer still! C'mon, it's me you're talking to here - length is definitely not an issue. In fact, there's nothing more satisfying (off the top of my head) than reading a good fanfic that comprises several dozen chapters and manages to push out quality content all the way to the end. Mokrie Dela 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1069086133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prasdana21 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I have been following this story since day one you posted the first chapter, and I must say, what a great story =D. You are able to connect Niko, Johnny, and Luis in one storyline since IMO they don't belong in the same "group" yet you did it so perfectly. I'm a big fan of IV trio (although IMO Gay Tony is the real main character of TBOGT) so it's very worth reading of my time. I have seen COL 2 as well and I can't wait for it By the way, I forgot my first account password, hence why I decided to make a new account, lol. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/447717-city-of-lies-possible-gta-iv-spoiler/page/9/#findComment-1069098846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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