2 disc gta

[Kwandilibro]

what if, instead of worrying about theres not enough space on the disc; rockstar made a gta with 2 discs. the first disc is the first half of the game, the second disc is the second. and in order to prevent from playing the second disk first, each gtaa game package comes with a different code, which has to be entered wwhen starting the second disc.

 

this would solve the problem of 360 not being able to run the game because of too much info on the disc or other stupidness.

[ryanhunter_rfc]

what if, instead of worrying about theres not enough space on the disc; rockstar made a gta with 2 discs. the first disc is the first half of the game, the second disc is the second. and in order to prevent from playing the second disk first, each gtaa game package comes with a different code, which has to be entered wwhen starting the second disc.

 

this would solve the problem of 360 not being able to run the game because of too much info on the disc or other stupidness.

I agree like one is Singleplayer and the other is Multiplayer

[evh5150vanhalen]

Why not do like forza did. Have the map and cars and other stuff on one disc that's to be installed on the hdd and have the music, cutscenes ect on the other disc. This would allow for alot more mucis and a longer story with a huge map. The only problem with this is the people that have the arcade 360's

[Kwandilibro]

Why not do like forza did. Have the map and cars and other stuff on one disc that's to be installed on the hdd and have the music, cutscenes ect on the other disc. This would allow for alot more mucis and a longer story with a huge map. The only problem with this is the people that have the arcade 360's

yeah cuz they dont have a harddrive. thats why gta would have 2 disks with half the game on one, half on the other, but the music, map, and MP would be the same on both. this would allow for a huge map and music like forza

[LateForTheSky]

This is how Driver 2 for the ps1 worked.

[RomanViking]

This is how Driver 2 for the ps1 worked.

But Driver 2 had the different cities not connected. Chicago & Havana (+first half of the narrative) on the 1st disc, and Vegas & Rio (+second half of the narrative) on the 2nd disc.

 

The way Driver 2 was structured allowed for 2 disks. But GTA has more of a streaming environment, so in the end the entire gameworld would most likely need to be on a single disc. Having the second disc hold all the missions, cutscenes, multiplayer, whatever.. It would be possible, but like has been said previously, it would require that the "world data" be installed on the consoles Hard Drive.. And some Xbox 360s don't have a hard drive..

 

 

In all honesty, if it means the final game had more data/was physically a larger, or more advanced game ---- I'd say Rockstar should go ahead and have the 360 version on 2 discs. Hard drives for the Xbox aren't that expensive and everyone with an Xbox 360 would greatly benefit from having one.

 

[Ash_735]

With the introduction of the new USB patch for the 360s, Having an Install Disc shouldn't be a problem anymore, besides, it's rare you'll find an Arcade 360 around as they really are pushing the 120/250GB Models.

 

To be honest, that's the only way I can see it getting bigger, have an install Dsc which installs the Map, Vehicles, Weapons, Pedestrians and Multiplayer Models onto the hard drive and have the Play Disc for everything there on.

[LateForTheSky]

if the xbox arcade thing is an issue then couldnt R* release a base game but then have extra downloadable content such as extra cars, weapons, islands, missions, clothes, whatever. Doing it this way would also earn them more money. The expansions to IV were good but id have rathered huge stuff packs than a new story. My ideal GTA wouldnt have a story as such anyway.

[K^2]

Why not do like forza did. Have the map and cars and other stuff on one disc that's to be installed on the hdd and have the music, cutscenes ect on the other disc. This would allow for alot more mucis and a longer story with a huge map. The only problem with this is the people that have the arcade 360's

This is really the best solution. I think MS is starting to realize that it will be necessary, which is why they are now selling expansion HDDs. You could probably install one of these on an Arcade, couldn't you?

 

At any rate, I'm sure that's what will happen to next GTA. GTA IV on PS3 and PC were already well over 9GB.

[Kwandilibro]

Why not do like forza did. Have the map and cars and other stuff on one disc that's to be installed  on the hdd and have the music, cutscenes ect on the other disc. This would allow for alot more mucis and a longer story with a huge map. The only problem with this is the people that have the arcade 360's 

This is really the best solution. I think MS is starting to realize that it will be necessary, which is why they are now selling expansion HDDs. You could probably install one of these on an Arcade, couldn't you?

 

At any rate, I'm sure that's what will happen to next GTA. GTA IV on PS3 and PC were already well over 9GB.

idk thats wat i would do i guess but i have ps3 so its never been a problem. they could also try having seperate disks for single and multiplayer

[K^2]

Single and multiplayer use all the same data. Splitting them onto two disk would mean you'd have two identical disks. Doesn't help you at all.

 

That's the problem with GTA. The data you need are textures for buildings, vehicles, and pedestrians, and the audio data, such as radio stations and conversations. Everything else is a tiny amount of data on the disk. Scripts for the missions, actual models, maps, all take up next to no space. That's the only stuff you can split between disks, but it won't help at all. Textures and audio you never know which portion you'll need, because you are free to travel to the other side of the city or switch a radio station at any time. So all that data must always be available. And you can either try to fit it on the disk, or you have to put it on HDD. No alternatives to that.

[Kwandilibro]

so the best bet is to install it

[Matty]

If the next Grand Theft Auto game were to have two discs, then I personally would rather one disc be the install disc that has all the models (buildings, pedestrians, scenery etc), audio, and everything else that IS the game, and the other disc would be the "play" disc. Kind of similar to how most modern PC games work.

[macorules94]

people that have the arcade 360's

f*ck 'em cheap bastards

 

This could really work, for having a big GTA

 

[Xtreme_2010]

 

If the next Grand Theft Auto game were to have two discs, then I personally would rather one disc be the install disc that has all the models (buildings, pedestrians, scenery etc), audio, and everything else that IS the game, and the other disc would be the "play" disc. Kind of similar to how most modern PC games work.

 

^^ That ... And Piperka, I like your thinking

[Tyler]

Here's something, the 'Arcade' was discontinued in Microsoft factories already.

[d0mm2k8]

R* just confirmed that GTA V is PC and PS3 exclusive so it doesn't matter.

 

 

Seriously though, knowing R*, they will just make sure that it can fit on the 360 by limiting the experience (small map, less detailed textures ect.).

 

Or maybe just give it a double disk install makeover.

[macorules94]

And Piperka, I like your thinking

Yeah, they can just buy a HDD not that expensive

 

 

R* just confirmed that GTA V is PC and PS3 exclusive so it doesn't matter.

 

 

Seriously though, knowing R*, they will just make sure that it can fit on the 360 by limiting the experience (small map, less detailed textures ect.).

 

Or maybe just give it a double disk install makeover.

 

Rick roll in 2010? That's soo 2008

[d0mm2k8]

Rick roll in 2010? That's soo 2008

Think of it more as a late April Fools. Very Late.

 

Also, this decade is the decade of PC supremacy.

The decade where consoles become obsolete and everyone has a PC, making every game PC exclusive and high quality - not just a half arsed port.

 

*wakes up*

 

Damn...

 

 

[mubd]

Considering that in an update coming this week for the Xbox 360 that you will be able to use a USB drive as a memory unit to store games, I think the 2 disc option (one for installation and one for main game) would be viable.

[Jabalous]

After the launch of GTA IV , Sam Houser stated that they suffered with the size of the DVD and Microsoft should find a solution or this will shape a problem for Rockstar in the future releases . You can't split the game into two discs due technical problems as ( K^2 ) has listed some of these problems . Even the compression tech won't be very useful if the developers has decided to go too far in terms of the size of the game , and let's not forget that compression causes downgrade in the quality of the graphics .

[LordDastardly]

I hope there would be an option to install but also the option to play from the disc that way I could install it onto my HDD. If there are more than two discs, however, I am most certainly buying GTA:V for PS3.

[K^2]

and let's not forget that compression causes downgrade in the quality of the graphics .

Not always, but usually. People need to understand that it isn't magic. You can compress things because not all of the information in the file is useful. To compress things further you need to tighten criteria on what you call useful data, and since usefulness of data isn't just a black-and-white thing, you tend to end up with quality loss when you discard stuff that's somewhat useful.

[iLiaWneK]

If having to make 2 seperate disks mean a bigger map, more stuff to do and so on, then I'm all for it!

[LateForTheSky]

The only way that R* will go to all the extra developing effort is if the competition does the same. Otherwise the cost of making the game will go up (they lose profits) for no reason. We need to remember that R* is a business just like any other.

[unknowngtafan]

im pretty sure the people who buy the arcades are people who have bought other 360s but have had theirs break after their warranty expired and they put their old hdd on theirr new xbox so wont be a problem for most

[Chinatown Wars]

@iLiaWneK

I totally agree with you

 

[bcdownloads]

Either they would split the game, and you install like 4gb or something to your hdd.

Alternative, buy a PS3 and avoid problems.

Who knows, GTA might even go back to PS3 (& PC) exclusives if MS can't work something out.

Imagine if they didn't have to compromise for one platform, the game could be even better

[bcdownloads]

Either they would split the game, and you install like 4gb or something to your hdd.

Alternative, buy a PS3 and avoid problems.

Who knows, GTA might even go back to PS3 (& PC) exclusives if MS can't work something out.

Imagine if they didn't have to compromise for one platform, the game could be even better

 

*sorry for double posting, froze when i tried to submit*

[Shaunr]

Single and multiplayer use all the same data. Splitting them onto two disk would mean you'd have two identical disks. Doesn't help you at all.

 

That's the problem with GTA. The data you need are textures for buildings, vehicles, and pedestrians, and the audio data, such as radio stations and conversations. Everything else is a tiny amount of data on the disk. Scripts for the missions, actual models, maps, all take up next to no space. That's the only stuff you can split between disks, but it won't help at all. Textures and audio you never know which portion you'll need, because you are free to travel to the other side of the city or switch a radio station at any time. So all that data must always be available. And you can either try to fit it on the disk, or you have to put it on HDD. No alternatives to that.

lol very true. itd be best if rockstar just optimized images more so we an fit more stuff. i mean look at just cause 2. it's huge and has loades of sh*t and the disk is only 6.2 gb. images are optimized, i think maybe a little too much cos if you go up close to like a billboard it looks pretty crappy. But rockstar will probably experiment with some stuff, but im sure 2 disks won't work.