Sergi Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Anyway Kwandilibro, what is wrong with the British accent? I admit there are a few kinda anoying accents over here but I don't think that would detract from a GTA game if the protag was British, white or black. Whereabouts in Britain is your uncle from by the way dude? oh he lives in london. and as for the accent, i could never tell the difference. they all seem annoying to me. just not as bad as nikos accent Lol! Typical bloody Yank... Anyways a black protag would be cool but considering we have just had one (if you count BoGT as a big enough game) then maybe we won't get one this time around. We have had more 'white' protags than 'black' ones in the 3D games so I'm sure we would be due one soon. Chinatown Wars had an Asian protag but he never spoke so I wouldn't count out seeing another Asian one soon either. again, luis was dominican. thats not black You do know black isn't a race nor an ethnicty right. African American is an ethnicty and so far we've had 1 with CJ or 2 with Vic but I remeber him being mixed with something else. Alot of Dominicans have African ancestory and it wouldn't be surprising if Luis did but then again he is more or less your typical lighter toned Dominican over the more darker Dominicans like Big Papi. Anyways "black" latinos don't consider themselves black just like the "white" or lighter toned latinos don't consider them selves white. They tend to simply call themselves latino and state their nationality so in Luis case he was simply a Dominican. On subject I really don't care what skin color thee next protag is. As long as it's a deep backstory to go along with why he was selected as the main character then I don't care. However I think we'll be playing a Mexican in a Southwestern US location more then anything especially with how much of a hot topic the Mexican Drug Wars and Mexican Cartels and street gangs have been over the last 3 or 4 years in America. If R* started work on the next true GTA in say 2006 or 2007 then the Mexican Cartels would have been a very relevant topic for R* to explore. Vic was half dominican, half white. He wasnt black. So tell me what was he? He sure as hell wasn't white and he sure as hell wasn't yellow. People need to learn what race, ethnicity, nationality and skin tone are and stop using them as if they were all 1 thing. For the last time Black just as well as White isn't a race. That concept of race is a fairly modern creation mainly used for the days of slavery. Asian people are called yellow or white people. Arabs aren't called khacki people. Dominican isn't a race it's a nationality. Latino isn't a race it's a grouping for people of South American or Central American descent and is used as if it is an ethnicity. Vic was Dominican yes but it was also assumed or even confirmed that his other parent was "black" and more likely an African American. So with that said Vic was a "black" African American/Dominican since he wasn't white. People need to seriously take some college classes before they get into "race" arguments since they 95% of the time have no real clue on what they are talking about. So if a mexican or puerto rican is dark they are black? I guess im white since most hispanics are darker than me lmao. Sorry bud, you fail Wow you are a complete idiot. There is nothing more to say after the complete dumbness your post just made example of. Read my previous post you idioit, or better yet get an adult with a college education or a real knowledge of the "race" debate to help translate this in lamen to you because I can't. It seems you need to find out what a "race" is 1st and foremost because if you knew then you'd understand that black and white isn't a race and nothing more then skin tone and genetic differations of people due to the area of their origin. For example "white" people originated in colder Europe and migrated while "black" people originated in Sub Saharan Africa and were black due to the hot nature of Africa. They are all nothing more then skin alterations for homo sapiens who are the human "race". Read a book or go to college but either way do some learning before you speak about sh*t you have absolutely no idea about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwandilibro Posted March 18, 2010 Author Share Posted March 18, 2010 Anyway Kwandilibro, what is wrong with the British accent? I admit there are a few kinda anoying accents over here but I don't think that would detract from a GTA game if the protag was British, white or black. Whereabouts in Britain is your uncle from by the way dude? oh he lives in london. and as for the accent, i could never tell the difference. they all seem annoying to me. just not as bad as nikos accent Lol! Typical bloody Yank... Anyways a black protag would be cool but considering we have just had one (if you count BoGT as a big enough game) then maybe we won't get one this time around. We have had more 'white' protags than 'black' ones in the 3D games so I'm sure we would be due one soon. Chinatown Wars had an Asian protag but he never spoke so I wouldn't count out seeing another Asian one soon either. again, luis was dominican. thats not black You do know black isn't a race nor an ethnicty right. African American is an ethnicty and so far we've had 1 with CJ or 2 with Vic but I remeber him being mixed with something else. Alot of Dominicans have African ancestory and it wouldn't be surprising if Luis did but then again he is more or less your typical lighter toned Dominican over the more darker Dominicans like Big Papi. Anyways "black" latinos don't consider themselves black just like the "white" or lighter toned latinos don't consider them selves white. They tend to simply call themselves latino and state their nationality so in Luis case he was simply a Dominican. On subject I really don't care what skin color thee next protag is. As long as it's a deep backstory to go along with why he was selected as the main character then I don't care. However I think we'll be playing a Mexican in a Southwestern US location more then anything especially with how much of a hot topic the Mexican Drug Wars and Mexican Cartels and street gangs have been over the last 3 or 4 years in America. If R* started work on the next true GTA in say 2006 or 2007 then the Mexican Cartels would have been a very relevant topic for R* to explore. Vic was half dominican, half white. He wasnt black. So tell me what was he? He sure as hell wasn't white and he sure as hell wasn't yellow. People need to learn what race, ethnicity, nationality and skin tone are and stop using them as if they were all 1 thing. For the last time Black just as well as White isn't a race. That concept of race is a fairly modern creation mainly used for the days of slavery. Asian people are called yellow or white people. Arabs aren't called khacki people. Dominican isn't a race it's a nationality. Latino isn't a race it's a grouping for people of South American or Central American descent and is used as if it is an ethnicity. Vic was Dominican yes but it was also assumed or even confirmed that his other parent was "black" and more likely an African American. So with that said Vic was a "black" African American/Dominican since he wasn't white. People need to seriously take some college classes before they get into "race" arguments since they 95% of the time have no real clue on what they are talking about. So if a mexican or puerto rican is dark they are black? I guess im white since most hispanics are darker than me lmao. Sorry bud, you fail Wow you are a complete idiot. There is nothing more to say after the complete dumbness your post just made example of. Read my previous post you idioit, or better yet get an adult with a college education or a real knowledge of the "race" debate to help translate this in lamen to you because I can't. It seems you need to find out what a "race" is 1st and foremost because if you knew then you'd understand that black and white isn't a race and nothing more then skin tone and genetic differations of people due to the area of their origin. For example "white" people originated in colder Europe and migrated while "black" people originated in Sub Saharan Africa and were black due to the hot nature of Africa. They are all nothing more then skin alterations for homo sapiens who are the human "race". Read a book or go to college but either way do some learning before you speak about sh*t you have absolutely no idea about. Just wanted to say that black only applies to AA or west indian. Its not the skin color. Hispanic ppl are not black, even if they black as tar. Indian ppl are not black, theyr indian. Nobody is black unless theyyr AA or west indian. That means haitians and jamaicans. The only exception is being half black. But another thing. AA ppl can be as light as they want, theyr still black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergi Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 (edited) Anyway Kwandilibro, what is wrong with the British accent? I admit there are a few kinda anoying accents over here but I don't think that would detract from a GTA game if the protag was British, white or black. Whereabouts in Britain is your uncle from by the way dude? oh he lives in london. and as for the accent, i could never tell the difference. they all seem annoying to me. just not as bad as nikos accent Lol! Typical bloody Yank... Anyways a black protag would be cool but considering we have just had one (if you count BoGT as a big enough game) then maybe we won't get one this time around. We have had more 'white' protags than 'black' ones in the 3D games so I'm sure we would be due one soon. Chinatown Wars had an Asian protag but he never spoke so I wouldn't count out seeing another Asian one soon either. again, luis was dominican. thats not black You do know black isn't a race nor an ethnicty right. African American is an ethnicty and so far we've had 1 with CJ or 2 with Vic but I remeber him being mixed with something else. Alot of Dominicans have African ancestory and it wouldn't be surprising if Luis did but then again he is more or less your typical lighter toned Dominican over the more darker Dominicans like Big Papi. Anyways "black" latinos don't consider themselves black just like the "white" or lighter toned latinos don't consider them selves white. They tend to simply call themselves latino and state their nationality so in Luis case he was simply a Dominican. On subject I really don't care what skin color thee next protag is. As long as it's a deep backstory to go along with why he was selected as the main character then I don't care. However I think we'll be playing a Mexican in a Southwestern US location more then anything especially with how much of a hot topic the Mexican Drug Wars and Mexican Cartels and street gangs have been over the last 3 or 4 years in America. If R* started work on the next true GTA in say 2006 or 2007 then the Mexican Cartels would have been a very relevant topic for R* to explore. Vic was half dominican, half white. He wasnt black. So tell me what was he? He sure as hell wasn't white and he sure as hell wasn't yellow. People need to learn what race, ethnicity, nationality and skin tone are and stop using them as if they were all 1 thing. For the last time Black just as well as White isn't a race. That concept of race is a fairly modern creation mainly used for the days of slavery. Asian people are called yellow or white people. Arabs aren't called khacki people. Dominican isn't a race it's a nationality. Latino isn't a race it's a grouping for people of South American or Central American descent and is used as if it is an ethnicity. Vic was Dominican yes but it was also assumed or even confirmed that his other parent was "black" and more likely an African American. So with that said Vic was a "black" African American/Dominican since he wasn't white. People need to seriously take some college classes before they get into "race" arguments since they 95% of the time have no real clue on what they are talking about. So if a mexican or puerto rican is dark they are black? I guess im white since most hispanics are darker than me lmao. Sorry bud, you fail Wow you are a complete idiot. There is nothing more to say after the complete dumbness your post just made example of. Read my previous post you idioit, or better yet get an adult with a college education or a real knowledge of the "race" debate to help translate this in lamen to you because I can't. It seems you need to find out what a "race" is 1st and foremost because if you knew then you'd understand that black and white isn't a race and nothing more then skin tone and genetic differations of people due to the area of their origin. For example "white" people originated in colder Europe and migrated while "black" people originated in Sub Saharan Africa and were black due to the hot nature of Africa. They are all nothing more then skin alterations for homo sapiens who are the human "race". Read a book or go to college but either way do some learning before you speak about sh*t you have absolutely no idea about. Just wanted to say that black only applies to AA or west indian. Its not the skin color. Hispanic ppl are not black, even if they black as tar. Indian ppl are not black, theyr indian. Nobody is black unless theyyr AA or west indian. That means haitians and jamaicans. The only exception is being half black. But another thing. AA ppl can be as light as they want, theyr still black Black typically only concerns countries that were affected by the slave trade. Racism in countries like Brazil which a large number of post slave trade Africans as well as where slaves were located is something present. The "black" Brazilians used to get called the N word just like African Americans. The majority if not all of the islands in the West Indies were major slave outpost and were areas where free slaves located. Haiti was created by former slaves who were guess what, not native to the actual island that Haiti and the DR are located on. African roots are heavy in almost all of Central and South America as well as the West Indies based soley off the slave trade as slave outpost were located in those areas and free slaves migrated to those areas. However most latinos do not consider themselves white or black but just consider themselves latino and their nationality. It has nothing to do with it being just an American or West Indian African ancestory situation. Black is nothing more then a general term created during the slave trade that has stuck around almost exclsuively for African slave descendants. It's just like i said with Asians not being called yellow or white even though in alot of cases they're whiter then "white" people but they are simply called Asians or what ever they're nationality is such as Japanese. Look at a regular Puerto Rican and compare them to a light skinned black person and they have practically the same skin tone. The black usually only applies to the African American because that's what it's generalized with and because a Puerto Rican considers them selves a latino over anything and not a skin color. Read articles about ancient Egypt or books about it and you'll see that the modern definition of "race" was non existent back then as Ancient Egypt was a combination of numerous peoples such as Sub Saharan Africans, North Africans, Middle Eastern Asians as well as had Europeans such as Maccodonians and guess what they didn't go by black or white they only considered themselves Egyptians not skin colors. The race concept was a concept created by slave traders in order to lower the African slaves and make it seem as if they weren't of the same race and make it seem far less immoral. Even the most basic African American History book explains that. Edited March 18, 2010 by Sergi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer.Khan Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 I don't care about race at all. I'm happy as long as there's a good story and good character development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkznr3 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 I guess its because it's census time in the US that I'm seeing this everywhere but I am so goddamn sick of reading people 1) confuse race and ethnicity (and now nationality in this thread) and 2) type dumb sh*t as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova69_7 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 OK I don't think anyone means any offence when they say 'black' or 'white', it is just simply referring to their skin colour. I am well aware people aren't just one or the other and that black/white aren't the correct terms for people. The thing is race is always a touchy subject and clearly people can take offence if the terms are stated incorrectly. OT: Race has never been an issue for RockStar and they are quite prepared to portray a protagonist from any background. Also I am quite prepared to play as a protagonist from any background which is why I voted yes. Speaking about that, I thought this thread was meant to be a poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reconite Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 (edited) I honestly don't care what race the protagonist is, if the game's good who does? I want a black Scotsman protagonist. Does he have to be a Cyclops too? Edited March 18, 2010 by Reconite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JianHua Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 enough with some gangsta sh*t, no way no black protagonist (ain't being a racist here though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Bridge Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 I honestly don't care what race the protagonist is, if the game's good who does? I want a black Scotsman protagonist. Does he have to be a Cyclops too? KA-BEWM! Sorry, I couldn't resist. Also, he's such a spammer! Nerf now please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 I'm going to say this: I'm cool with a black protagonist, or whatever, so long as they don't have an exaggerated "black" attitude. EG having a black guy who goes "'Sup man how's it going? I'm good, thanks for asking" is fine, but "Yo n*****. wassup playa? yeah safe." If the game's like that i won't get it. oh and FYI i'm not being racist, i am talking about the ATTITUDE, not the RACE. Hell if any of u live in the UK you'll know we have loads of white people here that act like that. (Ali G* anyone?) Does anyone agree with me? * Yes i know he's a charecter The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova69_7 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 I'm going to say this: I'm cool with a black protagonist, or whatever, so long as they don't have an exaggerated "black" attitude. EG having a black guy who goes "'Sup man how's it going? I'm good, thanks for asking" is fine, but "Yo n*****. wassup playa? yeah safe." If the game's like that i won't get it. oh and FYI i'm not being racist, i am talking about the ATTITUDE, not the RACE. Hell if any of u live in the UK you'll know we have loads of white people here that act like that. (Ali G* anyone?) Does anyone agree with me? * Yes i know he's a charecter Haha! Ali G rocks! Yeah man I know he's a character lol! He was takin the p1ss out of kids in gangs around the UK who were white but were convinced they are 'livin tough on the mean streets of LA' and it was very very funny! He hit it right on the head. In San Andreas we played as a 'gangbanger' and that was great. However seeing as that was one of the most recent games (yeah I know it was 6 years ago...I mean in terms of the main GTA titles that have been released) I think if we are going to return to that setting it won't be until a few more titles down the road when a few more backgrounds have been addressed. The gangbanging scene in the early-mid 90's is perfect for a GTA setting considering the gangs and the gun crime and the drugs but it's already been done in San Andreas. Basically, I don't think we'll see that setting again for a while but that certainly doesn't stop the next protag from being African-American or West Indian etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZayDaGawd Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 enough with some gangsta sh*t, no way no black protagonist (ain't being a racist here though) wtf? and what u mean enough with the gangster shyt, nigga its been like 7 GTA's dhat invlove mafia/cartels only 1 wit "gangsta shyt" close minded ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Haha! Ali G rocks! Yeah man I know he's a character lol! He was takin the p1ss out of kids in gangs around the UK who were white but were convinced they are 'livin tough on the mean streets of LA' and it was very very funny! He hit it right on the head. In San Andreas we played as a 'gangbanger' and that was great. However seeing as that was one of the most recent games (yeah I know it was 6 years ago...I mean in terms of the main GTA titles that have been released) I think if we are going to return to that setting it won't be until a few more titles down the road when a few more backgrounds have been addressed. The gangbanging scene in the early-mid 90's is perfect for a GTA setting considering the gangs and the gun crime and the drugs but it's already been done in San Andreas. Basically, I don't think we'll see that setting again for a while but that certainly doesn't stop the next protag from being African-American or West Indian etc. Yeah especially the bit where either Ali G or Martin Freeman, says "LAPD!" as a staines police car goes past! Then the school-boy V sign he flips! That film has my favourite moment ever in: "Two words. Keep. It. Real." "That's three words." "Don't be a spanner, 'it' aint a real word, it's short for 'Innit', innit?" EDIT: Damn i forgot the OT reply! Like i said i' all for a black protag, so long as the charecter isn't a "yo wassup n*****" kind of guy. Incidently, if GTA was in the UK, imagine the humour they'd put in with Chavs! The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownBear Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Anyway Kwandilibro, what is wrong with the British accent? I admit there are a few kinda anoying accents over here but I don't think that would detract from a GTA game if the protag was British, white or black. Whereabouts in Britain is your uncle from by the way dude? oh he lives in london. and as for the accent, i could never tell the difference. they all seem annoying to me. just not as bad as nikos accent Lol! Typical bloody Yank... Anyways a black protag would be cool but considering we have just had one (if you count BoGT as a big enough game) then maybe we won't get one this time around. We have had more 'white' protags than 'black' ones in the 3D games so I'm sure we would be due one soon. Chinatown Wars had an Asian protag but he never spoke so I wouldn't count out seeing another Asian one soon either. again, luis was dominican. thats not black You do know black isn't a race nor an ethnicty right. African American is an ethnicty and so far we've had 1 with CJ or 2 with Vic but I remeber him being mixed with something else. Alot of Dominicans have African ancestory and it wouldn't be surprising if Luis did but then again he is more or less your typical lighter toned Dominican over the more darker Dominicans like Big Papi. Anyways "black" latinos don't consider themselves black just like the "white" or lighter toned latinos don't consider them selves white. They tend to simply call themselves latino and state their nationality so in Luis case he was simply a Dominican. On subject I really don't care what skin color thee next protag is. As long as it's a deep backstory to go along with why he was selected as the main character then I don't care. However I think we'll be playing a Mexican in a Southwestern US location more then anything especially with how much of a hot topic the Mexican Drug Wars and Mexican Cartels and street gangs have been over the last 3 or 4 years in America. If R* started work on the next true GTA in say 2006 or 2007 then the Mexican Cartels would have been a very relevant topic for R* to explore. Vic was half dominican, half white. He wasnt black. So tell me what was he? He sure as hell wasn't white and he sure as hell wasn't yellow. People need to learn what race, ethnicity, nationality and skin tone are and stop using them as if they were all 1 thing. For the last time Black just as well as White isn't a race. That concept of race is a fairly modern creation mainly used for the days of slavery. Asian people are called yellow or white people. Arabs aren't called khacki people. Dominican isn't a race it's a nationality. Latino isn't a race it's a grouping for people of South American or Central American descent and is used as if it is an ethnicity. Vic was Dominican yes but it was also assumed or even confirmed that his other parent was "black" and more likely an African American. So with that said Vic was a "black" African American/Dominican since he wasn't white. People need to seriously take some college classes before they get into "race" arguments since they 95% of the time have no real clue on what they are talking about. So if a mexican or puerto rican is dark they are black? I guess im white since most hispanics are darker than me lmao. Sorry bud, you fail Wow you are a complete idiot. There is nothing more to say after the complete dumbness your post just made example of. Read my previous post you idioit, or better yet get an adult with a college education or a real knowledge of the "race" debate to help translate this in lamen to you because I can't. It seems you need to find out what a "race" is 1st and foremost because if you knew then you'd understand that black and white isn't a race and nothing more then skin tone and genetic differations of people due to the area of their origin. For example "white" people originated in colder Europe and migrated while "black" people originated in Sub Saharan Africa and were black due to the hot nature of Africa. They are all nothing more then skin alterations for homo sapiens who are the human "race". Read a book or go to college but either way do some learning before you speak about sh*t you have absolutely no idea about. Just wanted to say that black only applies to AA or west indian. Its not the skin color. Hispanic ppl are not black, even if they black as tar. Indian ppl are not black, theyr indian. Nobody is black unless theyyr AA or west indian. That means haitians and jamaicans. The only exception is being half black. But another thing. AA ppl can be as light as they want, theyr still black Black typically only concerns countries that were affected by the slave trade. Racism in countries like Brazil which a large number of post slave trade Africans as well as where slaves were located is something present. The "black" Brazilians used to get called the N word just like African Americans. The majority if not all of the islands in the West Indies were major slave outpost and were areas where free slaves located. Haiti was created by former slaves who were guess what, not native to the actual island that Haiti and the DR are located on. African roots are heavy in almost all of Central and South America as well as the West Indies based soley off the slave trade as slave outpost were located in those areas and free slaves migrated to those areas. However most latinos do not consider themselves white or black but just consider themselves latino and their nationality. It has nothing to do with it being just an American or West Indian African ancestory situation. Black is nothing more then a general term created during the slave trade that has stuck around almost exclsuively for African slave descendants. It's just like i said with Asians not being called yellow or white even though in alot of cases they're whiter then "white" people but they are simply called Asians or what ever they're nationality is such as Japanese. Look at a regular Puerto Rican and compare them to a light skinned black person and they have practically the same skin tone. The black usually only applies to the African American because that's what it's generalized with and because a Puerto Rican considers them selves a latino over anything and not a skin color. Read articles about ancient Egypt or books about it and you'll see that the modern definition of "race" was non existent back then as Ancient Egypt was a combination of numerous peoples such as Sub Saharan Africans, North Africans, Middle Eastern Asians as well as had Europeans such as Maccodonians and guess what they didn't go by black or white they only considered themselves Egyptians not skin colors. The race concept was a concept created by slave traders in order to lower the African slaves and make it seem as if they weren't of the same race and make it seem far less immoral. Even the most basic African American History book explains that. You beautiful man, your the only person i have ever met that has a clue on ethnicity and race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincentmillidge Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 (edited) NO just coz i dont want the story based around some black gangs its been done to death over the last 2 decades and although great at times its become an over used cliche. i cant be assed with all the stupid, pointless bragging and misogony that would undoubtedly go with a game based around a black gangbanger. its got old, thanks to american black culture being shoved down our throats for the last couple of decades. dont get me wrong Dre , Snoop, ODB ... etc are great but for every one of them you get a 50 cent or a little wayne or a nelly and there benign commercial raps bout how much money theyve got and how big their f*cking rims are they can go f*ck em selves in my book Edited March 18, 2010 by vincentmillidge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 NO just coz i dont want the story based around some black gangs its been done to death over the last 2 decades and although great at times its become an over used cliche. i cant be assed with all the stupid, pointless bragging and misogony that would undoubtedly go with a game based around a black gangbanger. its got old, thanks to american black culture being shoved down our throats for the last couple of decades. dont get me wrong Dre , Snoop, ODB ... etc are great but for every one of them you get a 50 cent or a little wayne or a nelly and there benign commercial raps bout how much money theyve got and how big their f*cking rims are they can go f*ck em selves in my book I agree. my mate has a saying. I'm going to be careful here because he is a bit racist, but, although his theory is true, his phrasing isnt. he says "There's a difference between Black people and Gangsta."(my mate actually used a different word there, but lets not get into that) The theory being that you can have black people - a person who simply has dark skin and thus would work as the next GTA protagonist. On the other hand you have "Gangsta" who walk around with their trousers (or pants) round their knees, showing off "bling" with gold tooth caps, giving it all the "street-speak." As previously stated, If rockstar take the former route - of a normal guy who's black, then they could be onto something. If they take, as stated the "cliched" route, the gangbanger, Sucking air through teeth archetype, then they'll have another gimmicky second rate game. I doubt the GTA community will ever unite under one thought, some will like a black protag, some will like the street gangsta protag, some will dislike both. I have faith in Rockstar that they're going to think of a protagonist that will be fresh, and will make us like. The new GTA, that is IV onwards, seems to have a much stronger development background, so i think the charecter will have a strong personality and a powerful motivation, other then for example CJ (who had no real motivation other then being a gangsta). Niko, for example, while admittidly slightly emo about his past (lol), did have that strong motivation - to avenge the death of his comrades, and make sure that Darko is held accountable for his actions. I don't think that a gangbanging charecter would have much motivation to hold up a story to, or better then, IV's. Also i think the setting of V will go hand in hand with the charecter(s) and story - each one will depend on the other. That's what it comes down to, seperating "Black" from "Gangsta" The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastSideRyda187 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 How are people saying the Street/gangbanging thing is too cliche and overused?Are you kidding me?It's ALWAYS gotta do with the Mafia or the Mob or some sh*t.I say got back to gangbanging.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reconite Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 (edited) Guys above, please stop that ridiculous quote pyramid... Edited March 18, 2010 by Reconite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincentmillidge Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 How are people saying the Street/gangbanging thing is too cliche and overused?Are you kidding me?It's ALWAYS gotta do with the Mafia or the Mob or some sh*t.I say got back to gangbanging.... I agree the 'crime family' stuff has been overdone too . but not to the extent of black american gangs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwandilibro Posted March 18, 2010 Author Share Posted March 18, 2010 How are people saying the Street/gangbanging thing is too cliche and overused?Are you kidding me?It's ALWAYS gotta do with the Mafia or the Mob or some sh*t.I say got back to gangbanging.... I agree the 'crime family' stuff has been overdone too . but not to the extent of black american gangs. Really? What games. The few i know are SA, 25 to life, 50 cent bulletproof. How is that done to death? If anything mob themes are overdone. You need to stop speakin out your ass man. And dont say no stupid sh*t like "movies". The mob gets overdone everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ats. Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 How are people saying the Street/gangbanging thing is too cliche and overused?Are you kidding me?It's ALWAYS gotta do with the Mafia or the Mob or some sh*t.I say got back to gangbanging.... I agree the 'crime family' stuff has been overdone too . but not to the extent of black american gangs. Really? What games. The few i know are SA, 25 to life, 50 cent bulletproof. How is that done to death? If anything mob themes are overdone. You need to stop speakin out your ass man. And dont say no stupid sh*t like "movies". The mob gets overdone everywhere Everywhere? Well name all these games then. There aren't that much of them. Don't imagine sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwandilibro Posted March 18, 2010 Author Share Posted March 18, 2010 How are people saying the Street/gangbanging thing is too cliche and overused?Are you kidding me?It's ALWAYS gotta do with the Mafia or the Mob or some sh*t.I say got back to gangbanging.... I agree the 'crime family' stuff has been overdone too . but not to the extent of black american gangs. Really? What games. The few i know are SA, 25 to life, 50 cent bulletproof. How is that done to death? If anything mob themes are overdone. You need to stop speakin out your ass man. And dont say no stupid sh*t like "movies". The mob gets overdone everywhere Everywhere? Well name all these games then. There aren't that much of them. Don't imagine sh*t. Yeah ur right theres not. And the earth is a square. Get off that dumb sh*t man you embarrassing the other skinheads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ats. Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 How are people saying the Street/gangbanging thing is too cliche and overused?Are you kidding me?It's ALWAYS gotta do with the Mafia or the Mob or some sh*t.I say got back to gangbanging.... I agree the 'crime family' stuff has been overdone too . but not to the extent of black american gangs. Really? What games. The few i know are SA, 25 to life, 50 cent bulletproof. How is that done to death? If anything mob themes are overdone. You need to stop speakin out your ass man. And dont say no stupid sh*t like "movies". The mob gets overdone everywhere Everywhere? Well name all these games then. There aren't that much of them. Don't imagine sh*t. Yeah ur right theres not. And the earth is a square. Get off that dumb sh*t man you embarrassing the other skinheads Well, this proves it. You can't name that much of these mob games. And stop that racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwandilibro Posted March 18, 2010 Author Share Posted March 18, 2010 How are people saying the Street/gangbanging thing is too cliche and overused?Are you kidding me?It's ALWAYS gotta do with the Mafia or the Mob or some sh*t.I say got back to gangbanging.... I agree the 'crime family' stuff has been overdone too . but not to the extent of black american gangs. Really? What games. The few i know are SA, 25 to life, 50 cent bulletproof. How is that done to death? If anything mob themes are overdone. You need to stop speakin out your ass man. And dont say no stupid sh*t like "movies". The mob gets overdone everywhere Everywhere? Well name all these games then. There aren't that much of them. Don't imagine sh*t. Yeah ur right theres not. And the earth is a square. Get off that dumb sh*t man you embarrassing the other skinheads Well, this proves it. You can't name that much of these mob games. And stop that racism. Hell no i cant name all those games. And ill stop callin you a skinhead when you stop being a skinhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ats. Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 How are people saying the Street/gangbanging thing is too cliche and overused?Are you kidding me?It's ALWAYS gotta do with the Mafia or the Mob or some sh*t.I say got back to gangbanging.... I agree the 'crime family' stuff has been overdone too . but not to the extent of black american gangs. Really? What games. The few i know are SA, 25 to life, 50 cent bulletproof. How is that done to death? If anything mob themes are overdone. You need to stop speakin out your ass man. And dont say no stupid sh*t like "movies". The mob gets overdone everywhere Everywhere? Well name all these games then. There aren't that much of them. Don't imagine sh*t. Yeah ur right theres not. And the earth is a square. Get off that dumb sh*t man you embarrassing the other skinheads Well, this proves it. You can't name that much of these mob games. And stop that racism. Hell no i cant name all those games. And ill stop callin you a skinhead when you stop being a skinhead Well can you name at least some of them? And, reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_735 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Eh, the ghetto thug life theme was crap, the story in San Andreas was the worst, only got interesting when it moved AWAY from all that sh*t. Biker Gangs are under represented in the GTA world, sure we've had one spin off (The Lost and Damned) but a whole game based around that and Californian Biker Gangs would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcturus Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 yes, most white people try to be black anyways. haha that's funny. he's probably only met the wiggers lol. Let me get something straight, the dumb unsophisticated whites are the ones who try to act like a ''you know what.'' That's just a tiny little pinch of the white population who is like that lol. I'm guessing your dumb like them too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 I see this is going nowhere. Thanks for participating, everyone. "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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