Kwandilibro Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 It's been a while since we've had a stereotypitcal white protagonist, not since Toni Cipriani. but we had tommy vercetti and claude(he just didnt talk) so its not like weve never seen it. weve seen a black protag once. luis and vic vance were dominican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnyBOS Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I don't care. I liked San Andreas because of story, and how they made the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeg1931 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 It's been a while since we've had a stereotypitcal white protagonist, not since Toni Cipriani. but we had tommy vercetti and claude(he just didnt talk) so its not like weve never seen it. weve seen a black protag once. luis and vic vance were dominican But then again CJ was quite recent if R* jumped to a black so soon it woud give the impression that they were running out of ideas plus Liberty City Stories was only available on PSP so those who don't have one, it's been even longer since a caucasion protag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova69_7 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Did anyone else notice that throughout the whole of the III-era games it was only the black protagonists that could actually swim?!?! I mean what the hell they trying to say? Us white dudes can't float or something?! Haha. Anyways on topic. First of all I don't care what background the protagonist has really. I voted 'yes' because it would be good to see...but honestly I don't care - so long as the story makes sense and it's told correctly as most replies have been so far. @ ps2_master94: Seriously? Most white people try to be black? I'm not quite sure what you are basing that on but that is untrue...so so untrue. *rolls eyes* @ Patrick McReary: Personally I thought Niko was a very interesting and likeable character, but everyones opinions are bound to be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFA Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I don't really care about what colour he is, as long as he can do cool stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwandilibro Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 It's been a while since we've had a stereotypitcal white protagonist, not since Toni Cipriani. but we had tommy vercetti and claude(he just didnt talk) so its not like weve never seen it. weve seen a black protag once. luis and vic vance were dominican But then again CJ was quite recent if R* jumped to a black so soon it woud give the impression that they were running out of ideas plus Liberty City Stories was only available on PSP so those who don't have one, it's been even longer since a caucasion protag. but a. johnny was jewish, which is average white for nyc b. there been more white protags than black. c. niko was an immigrant, also extremely common for nyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownBear Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 yes, most white people try to be black anyways. No, i think the problem is most black people try to act black nowadays (coming from a quarter black person) what the hell is a quater black person. you either black or yuor not What do you mean? one of his parents is half black, simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova69_7 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Anyway Kwandilibro, what is wrong with the British accent? I admit there are a few kinda anoying accents over here but I don't think that would detract from a GTA game if the protag was British, white or black. Whereabouts in Britain is your uncle from by the way dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownBear Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Anyway Kwandilibro, what is wrong with the British accent? I admit there are a few kinda anoying accents over here but I don't think that would detract from a GTA game if the protag was British, white or black. Whereabouts in Britain is your uncle from by the way dude? except a brummie accent? a geordie protagonist would be cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dstrickt Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 (edited) ps2_master- yes, most white people try to be black anyways. Kwandilibro- hes right most american white people hate blacks and love them at the same time. not sure about europe Cheat- Trolls ahoy, they have created a battlefield for y'all. Wondering if this post is in time before the lock. Kwandilibro- got the perfect reponse for you: is it cuz we black? ps2_master- an uncle tom Kwandilibro- but we had tommy vercetti and claude(he just didnt talk) so its not like weve never seen it. weve seen a black protag once. luis and vic vance were dominican But then again CJ was quite recent if R* jumped to a black so soon it woud give the impression that they were running out of ideas plus Liberty City Stories was only available on PSP so those who don't have one, it's been even longer since a caucasion protag. Kwandilibro- but a. johnny was jewish, which is average white for nyc b. there been more white protags than black. c. niko was an immigrant, also extremely common for nyc More comments like this, and this topic will get locked in no time. Edited March 17, 2010 by Dstrickt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwandilibro Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 Anyway Kwandilibro, what is wrong with the British accent? I admit there are a few kinda anoying accents over here but I don't think that would detract from a GTA game if the protag was British, white or black. Whereabouts in Britain is your uncle from by the way dude? oh he lives in london. and as for the accent, i could never tell the difference. they all seem annoying to me. just not as bad as nikos accent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZayDaGawd Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Claude,Tommy,Niko,Toni,Johnny, all white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova69_7 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Anyway Kwandilibro, what is wrong with the British accent? I admit there are a few kinda anoying accents over here but I don't think that would detract from a GTA game if the protag was British, white or black. Whereabouts in Britain is your uncle from by the way dude? oh he lives in london. and as for the accent, i could never tell the difference. they all seem annoying to me. just not as bad as nikos accent Lol! Typical bloody Yank... Anyways a black protag would be cool but considering we have just had one (if you count BoGT as a big enough game) then maybe we won't get one this time around. We have had more 'white' protags than 'black' ones in the 3D games so I'm sure we would be due one soon. Chinatown Wars had an Asian protag but he never spoke so I wouldn't count out seeing another Asian one soon either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwandilibro Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 Anyway Kwandilibro, what is wrong with the British accent? I admit there are a few kinda anoying accents over here but I don't think that would detract from a GTA game if the protag was British, white or black. Whereabouts in Britain is your uncle from by the way dude? oh he lives in london. and as for the accent, i could never tell the difference. they all seem annoying to me. just not as bad as nikos accent Lol! Typical bloody Yank... Anyways a black protag would be cool but considering we have just had one (if you count BoGT as a big enough game) then maybe we won't get one this time around. We have had more 'white' protags than 'black' ones in the 3D games so I'm sure we would be due one soon. Chinatown Wars had an Asian protag but he never spoke so I wouldn't count out seeing another Asian one soon either. again, luis was dominican. thats not black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova69_7 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 again, luis was dominican. thats not black Well, my apologies. I guess my point was that he was dark-skinned so if RockStar are to keep mixing it up with their protagonists then more than likely the next one will be of a different ethnic descent such as Chinese. Of course, by that arguement then the next one could just as well be African-American...then again, we have already had CJ in San Andreas of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk-in-Drublic Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 What does it matter what race the character is Although I think a British character would be brilliant. Set in the US, but the character being English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwandilibro Posted March 18, 2010 Author Share Posted March 18, 2010 again, luis was dominican. thats not black Well, my apologies. I guess my point was that he was dark-skinned so if RockStar are to keep mixing it up with their protagonists then more than likely the next one will be of a different ethnic descent such as Chinese. Of course, by that arguement then the next one could just as well be African-American...then again, we have already had CJ in San Andreas of course. well there was huang lee who was asian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova69_7 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 again, luis was dominican. thats not black Well, my apologies. I guess my point was that he was dark-skinned so if RockStar are to keep mixing it up with their protagonists then more than likely the next one will be of a different ethnic descent such as Chinese. Of course, by that arguement then the next one could just as well be African-American...then again, we have already had CJ in San Andreas of course. well there was huang lee who was asian. Well if you read my posts I pointed out that in Chinatown Wars we never heard Huang Lee speak because the cutscenes were just stills with text, right? Thats why I said an Asian protag shouldn't be counted out as we would obviously get to see them in action and of course hear them speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwandilibro Posted March 18, 2010 Author Share Posted March 18, 2010 again, luis was dominican. thats not black Well, my apologies. I guess my point was that he was dark-skinned so if RockStar are to keep mixing it up with their protagonists then more than likely the next one will be of a different ethnic descent such as Chinese. Of course, by that arguement then the next one could just as well be African-American...then again, we have already had CJ in San Andreas of course. well there was huang lee who was asian. Well if you read my posts I pointed out that in Chinatown Wars we never heard Huang Lee speak because the cutscenes were just stills with text, right? Thats why I said an Asian protag shouldn't be counted out as we would obviously get to see them in action and of course hear them speak. well claude never spoke through 2 games. i didnt even know his name until SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova69_7 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 OK, lemme try this another way: Huang Lee is clearly able to speak...but because of the nature of Chinatown Wars we never heard him talk as all the cutscenes were stills. RockStar haven't yet done a 3D game where the cutscenes are live-action with an Asian (who can speak...) so this would be an original idea for them to try. Claude was just mute - but I'm having trouble working out why you brought him up in the first place :-s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akavari Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 CJ was a whiny puss. If theres another nig he better be really cold-blooded and hard. we should be scared to PLAY HIM. No wise-cracking jokes or any of that bullsh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vans123 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 I just want a violent,rude,mature protagonist with a rude voice,nice body health,not like a fat cervian soldier just like Niko, and I want the storyline to get based in what GTA started,I just wanna know how the fk R* never gets back to GTA origins like in gta ii and gta iii with all those Italians and rich families fighting each other and then you betray the family boss and you get the boss rank and do sh*t like attack families at any moment you want whatever my point is that I don't care the race,but I care alot about storyline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwandilibro Posted March 18, 2010 Author Share Posted March 18, 2010 OK, lemme try this another way: Huang Lee is clearly able to speak...but because of the nature of Chinatown Wars we never heard him talk as all the cutscenes were stills. RockStar haven't yet done a 3D game where the cutscenes are live-action with an Asian (who can speak...) so this would be an original idea for them to try. Claude was just mute - but I'm having trouble working out why you brought him up in the first place :-s oh i see wat your saying. but vans123 idk why would you go back to an unrealistic story like that. evreyone knows the criminal world is not about italians and rich families fighting. theirs gangs and cartels and some mob familes and corrupt cops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nameless Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 wait british and WI blacks sound the same i think its just my uncle. YES, I AM BLACK Ha ha, I've never heard such nonsense. I've known one black person with a foreign accent - that was a 55 year old in college from the Bahamas called Manuel (not pronounced Man-well). In my experience, most black people in uk speak with regional accents. I've known a few black people from Liverpool who all have a scouse accent, and a few Black people from London who speak with a Cockney accent. Anyway, I just want someone who speaks English as his first language, Black, White, Yellow, English, American, Australian, Asian (ie. Singapore). At a push hispanic may be OK (Be fantastic if it was Cesar Vialpando). The only problem I see with a black protagonist is that he will be compared to CJ. Even if he is a completely different person, people who loved CJ (myself included) would proobably end up saying He is not as good as CJ, and people who didn't like CJ will be thinking "Oh great, another CJ " @akavari - No he wasn't, he was the best protag yet. Why do you not want your protagonist to crack jokes? That is why CJ is my favourite, he was a young dumb ass but he was totally hard, and wasn't a whiney puss. Wise cracking jokes gave him a "not too serious" feel - that in turn made him fun and enjoyable as opposed to Niko's dark, depressing, serious style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergi Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Anyway Kwandilibro, what is wrong with the British accent? I admit there are a few kinda anoying accents over here but I don't think that would detract from a GTA game if the protag was British, white or black. Whereabouts in Britain is your uncle from by the way dude? oh he lives in london. and as for the accent, i could never tell the difference. they all seem annoying to me. just not as bad as nikos accent Lol! Typical bloody Yank... Anyways a black protag would be cool but considering we have just had one (if you count BoGT as a big enough game) then maybe we won't get one this time around. We have had more 'white' protags than 'black' ones in the 3D games so I'm sure we would be due one soon. Chinatown Wars had an Asian protag but he never spoke so I wouldn't count out seeing another Asian one soon either. again, luis was dominican. thats not black You do know black isn't a race nor an ethnicty right. African American is an ethnicty and so far we've had 1 with CJ or 2 with Vic but I remeber him being mixed with something else. Alot of Dominicans have African ancestory and it wouldn't be surprising if Luis did but then again he is more or less your typical lighter toned Dominican over the more darker Dominicans like Big Papi. Anyways "black" latinos don't consider themselves black just like the "white" or lighter toned latinos don't consider them selves white. They tend to simply call themselves latino and state their nationality so in Luis case he was simply a Dominican. On subject I really don't care what skin color thee next protag is. As long as it's a deep backstory to go along with why he was selected as the main character then I don't care. However I think we'll be playing a Mexican in a Southwestern US location more then anything especially with how much of a hot topic the Mexican Drug Wars and Mexican Cartels and street gangs have been over the last 3 or 4 years in America. If R* started work on the next true GTA in say 2006 or 2007 then the Mexican Cartels would have been a very relevant topic for R* to explore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergi Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 CJ was a whiny puss. If theres another nig he better be really cold-blooded and hard. we should be scared to PLAY HIM. No wise-cracking jokes or any of that bullsh*t What kind of f*cked up racist ass comment was that? You should get your f*cking ass kicked for saying ignorant sh*t like that. Despite the fact you called him a nig and sated "if there's another nig", you also are extremely ignorantly sterotyping African Americans in general by saying that ignorant ass he better be cold blooded and hard and that you have to be scared to be him and he can't be wise cracking. By saying that it shows you obviously have very little contact with black people or live in some sort of back woods hick ass location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZayDaGawd Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Anyway Kwandilibro, what is wrong with the British accent? I admit there are a few kinda anoying accents over here but I don't think that would detract from a GTA game if the protag was British, white or black. Whereabouts in Britain is your uncle from by the way dude? oh he lives in london. and as for the accent, i could never tell the difference. they all seem annoying to me. just not as bad as nikos accent Lol! Typical bloody Yank... Anyways a black protag would be cool but considering we have just had one (if you count BoGT as a big enough game) then maybe we won't get one this time around. We have had more 'white' protags than 'black' ones in the 3D games so I'm sure we would be due one soon. Chinatown Wars had an Asian protag but he never spoke so I wouldn't count out seeing another Asian one soon either. again, luis was dominican. thats not black You do know black isn't a race nor an ethnicty right. African American is an ethnicty and so far we've had 1 with CJ or 2 with Vic but I remeber him being mixed with something else. Alot of Dominicans have African ancestory and it wouldn't be surprising if Luis did but then again he is more or less your typical lighter toned Dominican over the more darker Dominicans like Big Papi. Anyways "black" latinos don't consider themselves black just like the "white" or lighter toned latinos don't consider them selves white. They tend to simply call themselves latino and state their nationality so in Luis case he was simply a Dominican. On subject I really don't care what skin color thee next protag is. As long as it's a deep backstory to go along with why he was selected as the main character then I don't care. However I think we'll be playing a Mexican in a Southwestern US location more then anything especially with how much of a hot topic the Mexican Drug Wars and Mexican Cartels and street gangs have been over the last 3 or 4 years in America. If R* started work on the next true GTA in say 2006 or 2007 then the Mexican Cartels would have been a very relevant topic for R* to explore. Vic was half dominican, half white. He wasnt black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwandilibro Posted March 18, 2010 Author Share Posted March 18, 2010 (edited) CJ was a whiny puss. If theres another nig he better be really cold-blooded and hard. we should be scared to PLAY HIM. No wise-cracking jokes or any of that bullsh*t What kind of f*cked up racist ass comment was that? You should get your f*cking ass kicked for saying ignorant sh*t like that. Despite the fact you called him a nig and sated "if there's another nig", you also are extremely ignorantly sterotyping African Americans in general by saying that ignorant ass he better be cold blooded and hard and that you have to be scared to be him and he can't be wise cracking. By saying that it shows you obviously have very little contact with black people or live in some sort of back woods hick ass location. thats some racist sh*t right there like ps2 would say some uncle tom sh*t. and then u really gonna go call him a N*gger and say hes a pussy because of it? this is why i created this topic, to point out the damn skinheads. and sergi's right about you. you that damn stupid, u must be living in you mamas ball hair. give us a break uncle tom Edited March 18, 2010 by Kwandilibro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergi Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Anyway Kwandilibro, what is wrong with the British accent? I admit there are a few kinda anoying accents over here but I don't think that would detract from a GTA game if the protag was British, white or black. Whereabouts in Britain is your uncle from by the way dude? oh he lives in london. and as for the accent, i could never tell the difference. they all seem annoying to me. just not as bad as nikos accent Lol! Typical bloody Yank... Anyways a black protag would be cool but considering we have just had one (if you count BoGT as a big enough game) then maybe we won't get one this time around. We have had more 'white' protags than 'black' ones in the 3D games so I'm sure we would be due one soon. Chinatown Wars had an Asian protag but he never spoke so I wouldn't count out seeing another Asian one soon either. again, luis was dominican. thats not black You do know black isn't a race nor an ethnicty right. African American is an ethnicty and so far we've had 1 with CJ or 2 with Vic but I remeber him being mixed with something else. Alot of Dominicans have African ancestory and it wouldn't be surprising if Luis did but then again he is more or less your typical lighter toned Dominican over the more darker Dominicans like Big Papi. Anyways "black" latinos don't consider themselves black just like the "white" or lighter toned latinos don't consider them selves white. They tend to simply call themselves latino and state their nationality so in Luis case he was simply a Dominican. On subject I really don't care what skin color thee next protag is. As long as it's a deep backstory to go along with why he was selected as the main character then I don't care. However I think we'll be playing a Mexican in a Southwestern US location more then anything especially with how much of a hot topic the Mexican Drug Wars and Mexican Cartels and street gangs have been over the last 3 or 4 years in America. If R* started work on the next true GTA in say 2006 or 2007 then the Mexican Cartels would have been a very relevant topic for R* to explore. Vic was half dominican, half white. He wasnt black. So tell me what was he? He sure as hell wasn't white and he sure as hell wasn't yellow. People need to learn what race, ethnicity, nationality and skin tone are and stop using them as if they were all 1 thing. For the last time Black just as well as White isn't a race. That concept of race is a fairly modern creation mainly used for the days of slavery. Asian people are called yellow or white people. Arabs aren't called khacki people. Dominican isn't a race it's a nationality. Latino isn't a race it's a grouping for people of South American or Central American descent and is used as if it is an ethnicity. Vic was Dominican yes but it was also assumed or even confirmed that his other parent was "black" and more likely an African American. So with that said Vic was a "black" African American/Dominican since he wasn't white. People need to seriously take some college classes before they get into "race" arguments since they 95% of the time have no real clue on what they are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZayDaGawd Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Anyway Kwandilibro, what is wrong with the British accent? I admit there are a few kinda anoying accents over here but I don't think that would detract from a GTA game if the protag was British, white or black. Whereabouts in Britain is your uncle from by the way dude? oh he lives in london. and as for the accent, i could never tell the difference. they all seem annoying to me. just not as bad as nikos accent Lol! Typical bloody Yank... Anyways a black protag would be cool but considering we have just had one (if you count BoGT as a big enough game) then maybe we won't get one this time around. We have had more 'white' protags than 'black' ones in the 3D games so I'm sure we would be due one soon. Chinatown Wars had an Asian protag but he never spoke so I wouldn't count out seeing another Asian one soon either. again, luis was dominican. thats not black You do know black isn't a race nor an ethnicty right. African American is an ethnicty and so far we've had 1 with CJ or 2 with Vic but I remeber him being mixed with something else. Alot of Dominicans have African ancestory and it wouldn't be surprising if Luis did but then again he is more or less your typical lighter toned Dominican over the more darker Dominicans like Big Papi. Anyways "black" latinos don't consider themselves black just like the "white" or lighter toned latinos don't consider them selves white. They tend to simply call themselves latino and state their nationality so in Luis case he was simply a Dominican. On subject I really don't care what skin color thee next protag is. As long as it's a deep backstory to go along with why he was selected as the main character then I don't care. However I think we'll be playing a Mexican in a Southwestern US location more then anything especially with how much of a hot topic the Mexican Drug Wars and Mexican Cartels and street gangs have been over the last 3 or 4 years in America. If R* started work on the next true GTA in say 2006 or 2007 then the Mexican Cartels would have been a very relevant topic for R* to explore. Vic was half dominican, half white. He wasnt black. So tell me what was he? He sure as hell wasn't white and he sure as hell wasn't yellow. People need to learn what race, ethnicity, nationality and skin tone are and stop using them as if they were all 1 thing. For the last time Black just as well as White isn't a race. That concept of race is a fairly modern creation mainly used for the days of slavery. Asian people are called yellow or white people. Arabs aren't called khacki people. Dominican isn't a race it's a nationality. Latino isn't a race it's a grouping for people of South American or Central American descent and is used as if it is an ethnicity. Vic was Dominican yes but it was also assumed or even confirmed that his other parent was "black" and more likely an African American. So with that said Vic was a "black" African American/Dominican since he wasn't white. People need to seriously take some college classes before they get into "race" arguments since they 95% of the time have no real clue on what they are talking about. So if a mexican or puerto rican is dark they are black? I guess im white since most hispanics are darker than me lmao. Sorry bud, you fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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