Why the series needs to stay in America

[RandomFishPerson]

Google Jamie Bulger.

then leave.

[ZayDaGawd]

3.)Yes the US influenced gangs around the world, which is why there is crips,bloods,ms13 and 18th street in different continents.

WOW crips and bloods! The first gangs to ever set foot in the USA did not live there. And we are talking about gangs (as in HUGE gangs like some of the Mafia gangs) not some street gangs with people running around with an Uzi just for 'bling'. I have never heard of any major international crime that involved a Blood/Crip gang I have heard about bank heists by international gangs from China, Japan etc. and they have much more Influence than any other gangs. (get some facts first) That's why they're classed as 'street gangs' because they are just in the 'streets' they don't plan oraganised crime and have Hitmen etc. they just smoke weed and sit on a street corner, that is not influence.

 

 

We house more inmates than any other nation, so we must be doing something right

Or something wrong

 

If you want GTA to be set in the USA so badly then post in the other topics, don't make a new topic about how America is "the best" (what, because you have more crime, immigrants, and unemployement that makes it a better country.?) I have nothing against the USA (been there various times) but there is nothing special about high crime rates etc. unless you are some wannabe gangbanger. And this is FACT - everything you said in your OP is not true US didn't influence gangs, it has very high crime but not the highest, it is not "clearly" the most diverse nation, and it does not have the toughest police. - That to me counts as bragging (and i'm not saying that because i'm 'insecure', i'm saying it becauseit's true), you are bragging about crime .

 

GTA V will most likely take place in the USA but it's not because of the reasons you said, it's because they are familiar with it and obviously enjoy working on US cities evn though they are made in Britain.

I didnt jus say crips and bloods, i said ms13 and 18th street as well, nice reading

 

Oh yea and rayful emonds did buisness with the crips, and he had a net worth of 300 million when he was only 23.

But yea to you all black gangs only rob liquor stores for 15 dollars right? LMAO stop being racist, in LA you have 15 year old kids buying AK's, you have Longo 13 kids sniping cops(look that up)

[ZayDaGawd]

I'll just leave this here.

I didnt know russia was a developed nation.

Well, technically it is. Russia might not be officially a developed country, but it isn't like those poor countries in Africa.

 

And:

 

4.) We have the toughest police force. Not as far as strict laws go but as far as how the police go to catch a criminal and the resources they have, we have the "best"

Why the hell must GTA stay in USA, because of "tough" police force?

 

Your arguments are bullsh*t.

Out of all the countries you name the ones in africa, hmm, racist much

[BrownBear]

I'll just leave this here.

I didnt know russia was a developed nation.

Well, technically it is. Russia might not be officially a developed country, but it isn't like those poor countries in Africa.

 

And:

 

4.) We have the toughest police force. Not as far as strict laws go but as far as how the police go to catch a criminal and the resources they have, we have the "best"

Why the hell must GTA stay in USA, because of "tough" police force?

 

Your arguments are bullsh*t.

Out of all the countries you name the ones in africa, hmm, racist much

Thats not racist, Africa is the poorest continent.

 

And its a bit rich coming from you isn't it Mr. bigot?

[ZayDaGawd]

I'll just leave this here.

I didnt know russia was a developed nation.

Well, technically it is. Russia might not be officially a developed country, but it isn't like those poor countries in Africa.

 

And:

 

4.) We have the toughest police force. Not as far as strict laws go but as far as how the police go to catch a criminal and the resources they have, we have the "best"

Why the hell must GTA stay in USA, because of "tough" police force?

 

Your arguments are bullsh*t.

Out of all the countries you name the ones in africa, hmm, racist much

Thats not racist, Africa is the poorest continent.

 

And its a bit rich coming from you isn't it Mr. bigot?

Nigerian Immigrants have the highest educational level in America than any other group.

Nice try but africa would not be what it is today if it wasnt for the slave trade and the europeans. They fukked it up.

[Ats.]

 

Out of all the countries you name the ones in africa, hmm, racist much

 

but who would want to play in south africa or mexico, where its pretty much all slums.

 

Oh really? Before pressing the 'add reply' button think your sentences through.

 

And no I am not racist. There just aren't any that poor countries around.

 

 

Nice try but africa would not be what it is today if it wasnt for the slave trade and the europeans. They fukked it up.

 

Without slave trade there wouldn't be any afroamericans.

[BrownBear]

I'll just leave this here.

I didnt know russia was a developed nation.

Well, technically it is. Russia might not be officially a developed country, but it isn't like those poor countries in Africa.

 

And:

 

4.) We have the toughest police force. Not as far as strict laws go but as far as how the police go to catch a criminal and the resources they have, we have the "best"

Why the hell must GTA stay in USA, because of "tough" police force?

 

Your arguments are bullsh*t.

Out of all the countries you name the ones in africa, hmm, racist much

Thats not racist, Africa is the poorest continent.

 

And its a bit rich coming from you isn't it Mr. bigot?

Nigerian Immigrants have the highest educational level in America than any other group.

Nice try but africa would not be what it is today if it wasnt for the slave trade and the europeans. They fukked it up.

Nigeria is fairly rich, but try sierra Leone.

 

and Africans started enslaving other Africans long before Europeans did. Though don't get me wrong I'm not trying to justify the slave trade.

[SmC12]

 

I didnt jus say crips and bloods, i said ms13 and 18th street as well, nice reading 

 

Oh yea and rayful emonds did buisness with the crips, and he had a net worth of 300 million when he was only 23.

But yea to you all black gangs only rob liquor stores for 15 dollars right? LMAO stop being racist, in LA you have 15 year old kids buying AK's, you have Longo 13 kids sniping cops(look that up)

 

OK tell me the difference between ms13/18th st. and crips/blood? they're still street gangs but less known.

 

And i am in no way being racist. And that is exactly my point, you are talking about 15yr olds buying AK's as if it is a good thing. And that's the reason i said you were bragging because you seem pround of that, do you really take pride in things like that?, or are you just a big N.W.A. fan?

 

 

[ZayDaGawd]

I'll just leave this here.

I didnt know russia was a developed nation.

Well, technically it is. Russia might not be officially a developed country, but it isn't like those poor countries in Africa.

 

And:

 

4.) We have the toughest police force. Not as far as strict laws go but as far as how the police go to catch a criminal and the resources they have, we have the "best"

Why the hell must GTA stay in USA, because of "tough" police force?

 

Your arguments are bullsh*t.

Out of all the countries you name the ones in africa, hmm, racist much

Thats not racist, Africa is the poorest continent.

 

And its a bit rich coming from you isn't it Mr. bigot?

Nigerian Immigrants have the highest educational level in America than any other group.

Nice try but africa would not be what it is today if it wasnt for the slave trade and the europeans. They fukked it up.

Nigeria is fairly rich, but try sierra Leone.

 

and Africans started enslaving other Africans long before Europeans did. Though don't get me wrong I'm not trying to justify the slave trade.

Africans slaved Europeans too.

[BrownBear]

I'll just leave this here.

I didnt know russia was a developed nation.

Well, technically it is. Russia might not be officially a developed country, but it isn't like those poor countries in Africa.

 

And:

 

4.) We have the toughest police force. Not as far as strict laws go but as far as how the police go to catch a criminal and the resources they have, we have the "best"

Why the hell must GTA stay in USA, because of "tough" police force?

 

Your arguments are bullsh*t.

Out of all the countries you name the ones in africa, hmm, racist much

Thats not racist, Africa is the poorest continent.

 

And its a bit rich coming from you isn't it Mr. bigot?

Nigerian Immigrants have the highest educational level in America than any other group.

Nice try but africa would not be what it is today if it wasnt for the slave trade and the europeans. They fukked it up.

Nigeria is fairly rich, but try sierra Leone.

 

and Africans started enslaving other Africans long before Europeans did. Though don't get me wrong I'm not trying to justify the slave trade.

Africans slaved Europeans too.

And Europeans enslaved Europeans, whats your point?

[ZayDaGawd]

I didnt jus say crips and bloods, i said ms13 and 18th street as well, nice reading 

 

Oh yea and rayful emonds did buisness with the crips, and he had a net worth of 300 million when he was only 23.

But yea to you all black gangs only rob liquor stores for 15 dollars right? LMAO stop being racist, in LA you have 15 year old kids buying AK's, you have Longo 13 kids sniping cops(look that up)

 

OK tell me the difference between ms13/18th st. and crips/blood? they're still street gangs but less known.

 

And i am in no way being racist. And that is exactly my point, you are talking about 15yr olds buying AK's as if it is a good thing. And that's the reason i said you were bragging because you seem pround of that, do you really take pride in things like that?, or are you just a big N.W.A. fan? oh yea the italian mafia is not big anymore, this isnt 1924 lol

 

So being a fan of NWA means i support black on black crime?

[Kwandilibro]

 

3.)Yes the US influenced gangs around the world, which is why there is crips,bloods,ms13 and 18th street in different continents.

WOW crips and bloods! The first gangs to ever set foot in the USA did not live there. And we are talking about gangs (as in HUGE gangs like some of the Mafia gangs) not some street gangs with people running around with an Uzi just for 'bling'. I have never heard of any major international crime that involved a Blood/Crip gang I have heard about bank heists by international gangs from China, Japan etc. and they have much more Influence than any other gangs. (get some facts first) That's why they're classed as 'street gangs' because they are just in the 'streets' they don't plan oraganised crime and have Hitmen etc. they just smoke weed and sit on a street corner, that is not influence.

 

 

We house more inmates than any other nation, so we must be doing something right

Or something wrong

 

If you want GTA to be set in the USA so badly then post in the other topics, don't make a new topic about how America is "the best" (what, because you have more crime, immigrants, and unemployement that makes it a better country.?) I have nothing against the USA (been there various times) but there is nothing special about high crime rates etc. unless you are some wannabe gangbanger. And this is FACT - everything you said in your OP is not true US didn't influence gangs, it has very high crime but not the highest, it is not "clearly" the most diverse nation, and it does not have the toughest police. - That to me counts as bragging (and i'm not saying that because i'm 'insecure', i'm saying it becauseit's true), you are bragging about crime .

 

GTA V will most likely take place in the USA but it's not because of the reasons you said, it's because they are familiar with it and obviously enjoy working on US cities evn though they are made in Britain.

I didnt jus say crips and bloods, i said ms13 and 18th street as well, nice reading

 

Oh yea and rayful emonds did buisness with the crips, and he had a net worth of 300 million when he was only 23.

But yea to you all black gangs only rob liquor stores for 15 dollars right? LMAO stop being racist, in LA you have 15 year old kids buying AK's, you have Longo 13 kids sniping cops(look that up)

that last part is true LA gangs are just crazy i heard on the news last year an 8 year old shot a kid on the bus in LA. and you cant count mob crime because its hidden so well. heres some stats i pulled from a website

 

http://mdfilter.blogspot.com/2008/06/new-o...ill-really.html

 

07 btw

 

 

 

Total Murders in 2007

1. New York, NY – 496

2. Chicago, IL – 443

3. Philadelphia, PA – 392

4. Los Angeles, CA – 390

5. Detroit, MI – 383

6. Houston, TX – 351

7. Baltimore, MD – 282

8. Phoenix, AZ – 213

9. New Orleans, LA – 209

10. Dallas, TX – 200

 

 

New Orleans isn’t #1 when it comes to total murders. We’re #9. That’s good news.

 

But I am sure you noticed that one of these cities is not like the others. Here are the same ten cities in order of their official 2007 populations:

 

1. New York, NY – 8,220,196

2. Los Angeles, CA – 3,870,487

3. Chicago, IL – 2,824,434

4. Houston, TX – 2,169,544

5. Phoenix, AZ – 1,541,698

6. Philadelphia, PA – 1,435,533

7. Dallas, TX – 1,239,104

8. Detroit, MI – 860,971

9. Baltimore, MD – 624,237

10. New Orleans, LA – 220,614

That population difference translates into an incredibly high murder rate (murders per 100,000 residents) for New Orleans when compared to the other cities. Here’s are the same ten cities is order of murder rates:

 

1. New Orleans, LA – 95

2. Baltimore, MD – 45

3. Detroit, MI – 44

4. Philadelphia, PA – 27

5. Houston, TX – 16

6. Dallas, TX – 16

7. Chicago, IL – 16

8. Phoenix, AZ – 14

9. Los Angeles, CA – 10

10. New York, NY – 6

 

 

 

most of these murders are ghetto murders, once again not bragging just saying.

 

Miami's murder rate is actually surprisingly low, as theeir crime is mostly drug crimes. in los angeles you can get killed for being a black girl in a mexican neighborhood walking down the street, or wearing blue shoelaces in a blood neighborhood

[BrownBear]

I didnt jus say crips and bloods, i said ms13 and 18th street as well, nice reading 

 

Oh yea and rayful emonds did buisness with the crips, and he had a net worth of 300 million when he was only 23.

But yea to you all black gangs only rob liquor stores for 15 dollars right? LMAO stop being racist, in LA you have 15 year old kids buying AK's, you have Longo 13 kids sniping cops(look that up)

 

OK tell me the difference between ms13/18th st. and crips/blood? they're still street gangs but less known.

 

And i am in no way being racist. And that is exactly my point, you are talking about 15yr olds buying AK's as if it is a good thing. And that's the reason i said you were bragging because you seem pround of that, do you really take pride in things like that?, or are you just a big N.W.A. fan? oh yea the italian mafia is not big anymore, this isnt 1924 lol

 

So being a fan of NWA means i support black on black crime?

black on white is fine though.

[Algonquin Bridge]

 

1.) America is cleary the most diverse nation in the world.

We have cities(big cities and suburbs) that are majority black, some white, some hispanic. Also alot of cities with a huge asian population.

 

 

For your general diverse melting pot, look no further than London.

 

"White British 4,288,193

Total Ethnic Minorities 3,305,107

White Irish 220,000

Other white: non-British (Russian, Eastern Europeans etc) 595,000

Black African 378,686

Black Caribbean 343,543

Black other 60,245

Indian 436,780

Pakistani 142,724

Bangladeshi 154,199

Chinese 80,327

Other Asian(Japanese, Korean etc) 133,400

All Others(South Americans, Australian, American etc) 113,319

 

[...] almost half of Londons population is made up of ethnic minorities at 3,305,107. A population that is bigger than the total population of all but two U.S cities: NY and L.A"

 

 

2.) The crime is the highest for developin nations. Sure it may be crime higher den us in undeveloped nations, but who would want to play in south africa or mexico, where its pretty much all slums.

 

Irrelevant. I'm pretty sure that RPG gunfights don't break out on the streets of Manhattan. With each GTA, the devs place their hands upon the "exaggeration" switch and turns it up to 11. What I'm saying is that it doesn't matter how enormously high the crime rate may be in real life, the fact is that crime is everywhere, and it can be exaggerated and spoofed to hell and back.

 

 

3.)We influenced gangs around the world. MS13 and 18th street are all over the americas. Crips and bloods in several continents as well.

 

Once again, irrelevant. The matter here is not WHO influenced gangs, but rather WHAT gangs are there to place in the storyline. Once again, non-US nations have gangs and gang culture, thus the formula can work there.

 

 

4.) We have the toughest police force. Not as far as strict laws go but as far as how the police go to catch a criminal and the resources they have, we have the "best"

 

Irrelevant yet again! This isn't a real life simulator. When Claude or Tommy get caught in gameplay, they don't get put in a cell, go to trial, potentially lose then spend years in a prison, do they? When Niko gets pulled out of his car after mercilessly slaughtering hundreds of cops, destroying millions of dollars worth of vehicles and helicopters, he doesn't get fined/sentenced to death/imprisoned.

 

Granted, it would take a lot to convince people that "GTA: Sugar Plum City", where the IRL Sugar Plum city features a police force as gentle as a quilt knitted by your grandmother, has cops that are obscenely brutal. But the rest of the world? Conflict with police, police brutality, corruption, etc. etc.

 

 

[Ats.]

Those "crips", "bloods" and those other wanksters are just plain stupid. "You wear blue shirt, now I have to kill you!" f*cking dumbasses, with no life what so ever.

[BrownBear]

Oh yeah, i can vouch for the fact immagration is big here, my dad is Turkish and my grandparents are Irish yet i live in England.

[SmC12]

I didnt jus say crips and bloods, i said ms13 and 18th street as well, nice reading 

 

Oh yea and rayful emonds did buisness with the crips, and he had a net worth of 300 million when he was only 23.

But yea to you all black gangs only rob liquor stores for 15 dollars right? LMAO stop being racist, in LA you have 15 year old kids buying AK's, you have Longo 13 kids sniping cops(look that up)

 

OK tell me the difference between ms13/18th st. and crips/blood? they're still street gangs but less known.

 

And i am in no way being racist. And that is exactly my point, you are talking about 15yr olds buying AK's as if it is a good thing. And that's the reason i said you were bragging because you seem pround of that, do you really take pride in things like that?, or are you just a big N.W.A. fan? oh yea the italian mafia is not big anymore, this isnt 1924 lol

 

So being a fan of NWA means i support black on black crime?

And when did i assoiciate NWA with black on black crime, i'm not talking about their songs, i'm talking about the whole street gangster theme. And don't edit my post with another untrue fact.

 

The Italian Mafia still do very much exist, but you see organised crime syindicates are different from normal street crime. They plan what they are doing and keep it hidden, hence why you hardly hear about them.

 

And also, this isn't 1990 lol

[ZayDaGawd]

Those "crips", "bloods" and those other wanksters are just plain stupid. "You wear blue shirt, now I have to kill you!" f*cking dumbasses, with no life what so ever.

ur only callin dem wannabees because they're black. Alot of them make more money than you so...

[Kwandilibro]

Those "crips", "bloods" and those other wanksters are just plain stupid. "You wear blue shirt, now I have to kill you!" f*cking dumbasses, with no life what so ever.

why dont you go say that to them and see what they say. because it doesnt matter what you think of b's and c's, its the stats. the same goes for latino gangs, which are ruthless as of lately. so be racist of you want, but facts are facts

[BrownBear]

Those "crips", "bloods" and those other wanksters are just plain stupid. "You wear blue shirt, now I have to kill you!" f*cking dumbasses, with no life what so ever.

ur only callin dem wannabees because they're black. Alot of them make more money than you so...

I doubt he's calling them wannabes because their black, these are wannabes:

 

[Ats.]

Those "crips", "bloods" and those other wanksters are just plain stupid. "You wear blue shirt, now I have to kill you!" f*cking dumbasses, with no life what so ever.

ur only callin dem wannabees because they're black. Alot of them make more money than you so...

No. I call them wannabes because, they just act hard and have no organization at all. And if by making money you mean stealing then yes, they make more money then me. As I was saying, your arguments are pretty stupid.

[BrownBear]

Those "crips", "bloods" and those other wanksters are just plain stupid. "You wear blue shirt, now I have to kill you!" f*cking dumbasses, with no life what so ever.

ur only callin dem wannabees because they're black. Alot of them make more money than you so...

No. I call them wannabes because, they just act hard and have no organization at all. And if by making money you mean stealing then yes, they make more money then me. As I was saying, your arguments are pretty stupid.

I think youve got it abit wrong here.

 

The bloods and crips are really organised.

[Kwandilibro]

Those "crips", "bloods" and those other wanksters are just plain stupid. "You wear blue shirt, now I have to kill you!" f*cking dumbasses, with no life what so ever.

ur only callin dem wannabees because they're black. Alot of them make more money than you so...

No. I call them wannabes because, they just act hard and have no organization at all. And if by making money you mean stealing then yes, they make more money then me. As I was saying, your arguments are pretty stupid.

so your implying that your better than black people? and organization means nothing. those gangs make street money, because thtats how theyre raised. and most of their money comes from drug dealing, smartass

[ZayDaGawd]

Those "crips", "bloods" and those other wanksters are just plain stupid. "You wear blue shirt, now I have to kill you!" f*cking dumbasses, with no life what so ever.

ur only callin dem wannabees because they're black. Alot of them make more money than you so...

No. I call them wannabes because, they just act hard and have no organization at all. And if by making money you mean stealing then yes, they make more money then me. As I was saying, your arguments are pretty stupid.

No organization? LMAO, keep telling yourself that. Stop watching gangland.

 

And stealings? More like running the drug trade in LA,Vegas,Chicago and NYC.

[SmC12]

 

ur only callin dem wannabees because they're black. Alot of them make more money than you so...

The ones who are smart and decide to get out of the "thug life" make lots of money. Most of Hip-Hop and Rap now is about getting out of the crime world and making your own mark (you've seen 8mile?, and Freedom Writers?), not about 15yr ols buying AK's, maybe in the 90's, but this is 2010 and in case you haven't noticed, things are different!

 

And this topic is just one huge argument about irrelevent facts about America being great because of it's crime. America is great because of the complete opposite of crime. And if GTA V is in the USA i won't be suprised but it's not because of anything you've said.

 

 

Edited March 16, 2010 by SmC12

[BrownBear]

I don't understand why he is being branded racist.

[ZayDaGawd]

ur only callin dem wannabees because they're black. Alot of them make more money than you so...

The ones who are smart and decide to get out of the "thug life" make lots of money. Most of Hip-Hop and Rap now is about getting out of the crime world and making your own mark (you've seen 8mile?, and Freedom Writers?), not about 15yr ols buying AK's, maybe in the 90's, but this is 2010 and in case you haven't noticed, things are different!

 

And this topic is just one huge argument about irrelevent facts about America being great because of it's crime. America is great because of the complete opposite of crime. And if GTA V is in the USA i won't be suprised but it's not because of anything you've said.

Actually most who get out of the game are working at home depot.

 

Rayful Emonds was richer than nearly every rapper.

 

Alpo& AZ were 17 years old and running the drug trade in Harlem. Do your homework kid.

[Ats.]

Those "crips", "bloods" and those other wanksters are just plain stupid. "You wear blue shirt, now I have to kill you!" f*cking dumbasses, with no life what so ever.

ur only callin dem wannabees because they're black. Alot of them make more money than you so...

No. I call them wannabes because, they just act hard and have no organization at all. And if by making money you mean stealing then yes, they make more money then me. As I was saying, your arguments are pretty stupid.

so your implying that your better than black people? and organization means nothing. those gangs make street money, because thtats how theyre raised. and most of their money comes from drug dealing, smartass

No, I didn't say that at all. What do you mean by "better"? Better in what thing?

They don't make "street money" because how they're raised. They just chose the path of crime. Most of the cases, they're forced to do that.

 

Oh and drug dealing, stealing, whatever. Crime is a crime.

 

@SmC12, Indeed, I got the organization thing pretty wrong. They are pretty organized, thank you for correcting me.

[BrownBear]

ur only callin dem wannabees because they're black. Alot of them make more money than you so...

The ones who are smart and decide to get out of the "thug life" make lots of money. Most of Hip-Hop and Rap now is about getting out of the crime world and making your own mark (you've seen 8mile?, and Freedom Writers?), not about 15yr ols buying AK's, maybe in the 90's, but this is 2010 and in case you haven't noticed, things are different!

 

And this topic is just one huge argument about irrelevent facts about America being great because of it's crime. America is great because of the complete opposite of crime. And if GTA V is in the USA i won't be suprised but it's not because of anything you've said.

Actually most who get out of the game are working at home depot.

 

Rayful Emonds was richer than nearly every rapper.

 

Alpo& AZ were 17 years old and running the drug trade in Harlem. Do your homework kid.

You do your homework.

 

Your good at usa criminal history however you dont understand america isnt the onl y country with gangs, in fact any city has gangs some morethan others yes but none of the most dangerous cities in the world are in the usa.

[SmC12]

 

ur only callin dem wannabees because they're black. Alot of them make more money than you so...

The ones who are smart and decide to get out of the "thug life" make lots of money. Most of Hip-Hop and Rap now is about getting out of the crime world and making your own mark (you've seen 8mile?, and Freedom Writers?), not about 15yr ols buying AK's, maybe in the 90's, but this is 2010 and in case you haven't noticed, things are different!

 

And this topic is just one huge argument about irrelevent facts about America being great because of it's crime. America is great because of the complete opposite of crime. And if GTA V is in the USA i won't be suprised but it's not because of anything you've said.

Actually most who get out of the game are working at home depot.

 

Rayful Emonds was richer than nearly every rapper.

 

Alpo& AZ were 17 years old and running the drug trade in Harlem. Do your homework kid.

Do yours first. I beleive this whole gang argument started on how US street gangs have more influence around the globe than International Organised Crime (in which you were wrong, as stated various other people), so really i have, kid.

 

 

@SmC12, Indeed, I got the organization thing pretty wrong. They are pretty organized, thank you for correcting me.

i think it was brownbear who said that, And I do agree with you on what you said about the crime and drug dealing, i was being sarcastic before.

Edited March 16, 2010 by SmC12