[WIP\\REL|IV] Not another crappy car pack...

[AmirGTR 0]

You have a dream, and it's the same as mine.

 

I deeply support this project and I'm very much looking forward to the outcome. So forgive me if I take the liberty to be picky about this.

 

The ones I noticed you got wrong:

 

Dukes: It's the 1969 Dodge Charger, not Camaro SS.

Vigero: It's the 1967 Camaro SS, not Dodge Charger.

Ruiner: It's a mix of 3rd gen Pontiac Firebird and Camaro. It does resemble the old RX7 somewhat, but it's far from the 300ZX. I actually spoke to the very guy who works at Rockstar and had personally named that car Ruiner. He intended it to be a 3rd Gen F-body. He also intended "Faction" to be a Buick Regal GS-T or GNX replica.

 

Faction:

 

Ruiner:

 

 

If you'd like I can find you models for these cars and get permission from the authors, but you'd have to do the conversion yourself.

 

Sabre & Sabre Rusty: Buick Regal from the 80s.

 

Sabre GT: The old school Buick GSX from the 1970s. This car looked very similar to the Oldsmobile Cutlass and the Chevrolet Malibu/Chevelle SS of the time. Your best bet is the Chevelle SS, since it's already out.

 

Fortune: While the 200SX is an exciting choice, traditionally, the Fortune has always resembled the Ford Thunderbird from the 1990s in all GTA titles. Less so in GTA IV, but it still has nearly identical lines and shape. I'm not a big fan of the Thunderbird, but it'd just be more accurate to use it instead of the 200SX.

 

The very interesting choice you made was on the Sultan. It makes perfect sense to have the Sultan RS be the Supra and the Sultan be IS300. They both have the same straight six engine (2JZ) engines except the Supra has forged internals and much more power (2JZ-GTE) while the IS300 is tuned for daily driving (2JZ-GE16). Very good choice on that one. The rest are fairly accurate as well, although I haven't looked at all of them closely.

 

 

Hope this helps, nice work so far, really looking forward to it.

Edited March 31, 2010 by AmirGTR

[Gus-84 1]

Thanks a lot for your post AmirGTR, I'm gonna read it again because there is a lot of information and my english is not so good.

I will answer later, I'm on something else right now.

[Gus-84 1]

 

You have a dream, and it's the same as mine.

 

I deeply support this project and I'm very much looking forward to the outcome. So forgive me if I take the liberty to be picky about this.

 

Thanks for your interest, most of the people thinks it's easy to do, but making a good car pack is long, boring, and difficult.

So any congratz are accepted! but critics are welcomed too.

 

 

The ones I noticed you got wrong:

 

Dukes: It's the 1969 Dodge Charger, not Camaro SS.

Vigero: It's the 1967 Camaro SS, not Dodge Charger.

 

You're not the first to notice.

That's a liberty I've taken due to the fact that the dodge charger has a rusty version to match vigero2, not the camaro.

Find me a good rusty camaro and I'll change that!

 

 

Ruiner: It's a mix of 3rd gen Pontiac Firebird and Camaro. It does resemble the old RX7 somewhat, but it's far from the 300ZX. I actually spoke to the very guy who works at Rockstar and had personally named that car Ruiner. He intended it to be a 3rd Gen F-body. He also intended "Faction" to be a Buick Regal GS-T or GNX replica.

 

I know that, even if I'm not as informed as you are. You seem's to be a specialist in cars question!

But I do with what I have! find me the good model and I will put it immediatly into the pack.

 

 

If you'd like I can find you models for these cars and get permission from the authors, but you'd have to do the conversion yourself.

 

Woaaw, WOaaooow, Woaw...

It's sound very interresting! I haven't got the skil to do the convert (yet)

But I know some people who can do the job, so if you have any model to propose, please do it!

 

 

Sabre & Sabre Rusty: Buick Regal from the 80s.

If you have a link for the mod I take it.

 

 

 

Sabre GT: The old school Buick GSX from the 1970s. This car looked very similar to the Oldsmobile Cutlass and the Chevrolet Malibu/Chevelle SS of the time. Your best bet is the Chevelle SS, since it's already out.

If you have a link for the mod I take it.

 

 

Fortune: While the 200SX is an exciting choice, traditionally, the Fortune has always resembled the Ford Thunderbird from the 1990s in all GTA titles. Less so in GTA IV, but it still has nearly identical lines and shape. I'm not a big fan of the Thunderbird, but it'd just be more accurate to use it instead of the 200SX.

If you have a link for the mod I take it.

 

 

The very interesting choice you made was on the Sultan. It makes perfect sense to have the Sultan RS be the Supra and the Sultan be IS300. They both have the same straight six engine (2JZ) engines except the Supra has forged internals and much more power (2JZ-GTE) while the IS300 is tuned for daily driving (2JZ-GE16). Very good choice on that one. The rest are fairly accurate as well, although I haven't looked at all of them closely.

I'm really impress by your knowledge of the suject! I'm glad that you are validating my choice.

 

 

 

Hope this helps, nice work so far, really looking forward to it. 

That helps a lot thank you, please follow the project, we need guys like you.

[SALAVEY13 0]

Hello! Some updates)

Reflection on backside windows are corrected.

Interior color is set by second, not fourth color I noticed, that i didn't use it before So we should decide how to use it - chaotic or as in real life-only gray(133) or light ( brown(93).. You can think while testing: gray inteior appears in white colored car, light brown in light brown car, other colors in cars whith same colors, but its only a coincidence, there can be any combinaion, try your self

Main interior color is changed from purple to dark gray as in real world.

Lame carbon is changed to wood+it's on stearing wheel now too, like it should be. Stearing wheel it self remains the same color as interior, not dark gray-don't like how it looks

Wtd file weights 143kb, because some normal maps became useless.

Take it)

Edited April 1, 2010 by SALAVEY13

[AmirGTR 0]

I'll make you a rusty one.

No seriously, all it takes is some texture editing and then remapping the body with the new texture. I've been working with Photoshop for around 7 years. And if I can have the model is Z3D, I can easily remap it. Piece of cake.

 

I can get you the models for these cars, but like I said, you'd have to find yourself someone to convert them. Here are some examples:

 

http://www.nfscars.net/file/image/highstakes/5550.aspx

 

http://www.nfscars.net/file/image/highstakes/6879.aspx

 

These files are easily extractable with Zmodeler and with a bit of refining can be used for any game. We can make the Sabre and Faction from the first one and we can use the second one for Ruiner. I know the example is a 4th gen, and it does make me feel biased to show that one instead of a 3rd gen model (because I own a 4th gen Z28 in real life)...but couldn't find a 3rd gen right now.

 

Chevelle SS link:

http://www.gtainside.com/en/download.php?d...art=21&orderBy=

 

 

BTW Chevrolet Camaro SS 350 by Stiopa looks better then the one you've chosen.

http://www.gtainside.com/en/download.php?d...art=14&orderBy=

 

As for the Thunderbird:

http://gta-worldmods.t-n-network.de/phpkit...&contentid=1338

Was converted to SA a long time ago, needs to be converted to GTA IV.

[AmirGTR 0]

Some other cars I researched:

 

Ring any bells?

 

Yup. It's the Primo. It's believed to the 1995 Buick Century with hints of other cars in it. Closest car I could find was:

 

http://www.gtainside.com/en/download.php?do=cat&id=451

Which is close enough, I'd say.

 

Here's another one you'll recognize right away:

 

Apart from the performance, it looks identical to the Uranus. You know why they call it Uranus? Cause the owners of these 5.0s love to sh*t talk. They're literally a Pain in Ur Anus. lol.

The car has been made for GTASA, so someone's gotta convert it to GTA IV.

 

http://gta-worldmods.t-n-network.de/phpkit...&contentid=4213

 

I'll get you some more info once I get around to. I gotta run now.

[SALAVEY13 0]

2AmirGTR:

Thanks for your work dude!

About converting from SA - you should contact the author first, may be he already converted it but didn't release (that has happened to me once )

About remapping the body - if you want to do t in zModeler - it's hell. You should use latest 3dMax - its Pelt instrument is like a gift from heaven

And the last thing - poly count of those nfs cars is ~9k, that's 1.5x less than original GTA4 models+it needs lotta work, like normal maps, body unwrapping.. I don't know, i'm gonna download them now and see.

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oops, i couldn't open them( Plus i read in readme, thet these authors kill for conversion, you should ask them to do it.

Edited April 1, 2010 by SALAVEY13

[Gus-84 1]

OMFG, he's going to do the job! I'm sure he's going...

Are you?

 

 

About the landcruiser, please stop working on this car or she will be too beautifull to put in my pack!

You've made an awesome job!

 

Just something about colours, you say that you don't use color2 in your previous release, but that is false.

in the previous version you gave me, color2 was changing the colours of the two bars on the roof, it was cool because we can put them grey or black.

now they are the same colour as the body.

maybe you can use color4 for that? or fix their colors to something grey metalic.

 

Thanks.

[SALAVEY13 0]

OMFG, he's going to do the job! I'm sure he's going...

Are you?

 

 

About the landcruiser, please stop working on this car or she will be too beautifull to put in my pack!

You've made an awesome job!

 

Just something about colours, you say that you don't use color2 in your previous release, but that is false.

in the previous version you gave me, color2 was changing the colours of the two bars on the roof, it was cool because we can put them grey or black.

now they are the same colour as the body.

maybe you can use color4 for that? or fix their colors to something grey metalic.

 

Thanks.

np) I really didn't notice that i'm using second color, these are original ladstalkers bars.. so i'm surprised tha you noticed it first, g00d tester

[Gus-84 1]

By the way, just for fun:

 

 

I promise I won't put this kind of carcol in the pack, but as you can see interior colors are working !

[SALAVEY13 0]

Pimp car)) Here is bar fix, now i'm going to start doing LOD

[Gus-84 1]

dukes, 0,133,32, 0,133,62, 0,0,0, 1,133,1, 5,133,8, 11,133,8, 31,133,30, 36,133,27, 52,133,50, 62,133,53, 82,133,63, 80,133,65, 65,133,65, 61,133,61, 93,133,93, 104,133,103, 132,0,131 (for marbelle) wtf? you copied wrong car carcol line if you have autors permission to change carcol files i can try to do that

Oups, yes I've made a mistake.

Please take a look at his carcol, and give me your result.

 

Thank you.

[Gus-84 1]

Previous test, like toyota camry and ford LTD crown victoria have been updated and finished.

I'm going on, new test are coming!

[Gus-84 1]

•Benson: Ford Econoline.

 

 

 

 

•Author: Gus

•locked WFT: No

•Permission to mod: Yes

•WFT size (original/mod): Ko

•WTD size (original/mod): Ko / Ko

•Polycount (original/mod):

•3D model: Original

•Textures: Modified by Gus

•Number of doors/seats: 3/2

•Licence plate: generic (NYC 85)

 

 

•Handling: Original

 

BENSON       7500.0  5.0   80	0.0 0.0 -0.1    0.0  5  0.12  1.0 115.0	0.2  0.60 0.2  40.0  0.85 0.70 14.0 0.15 0.48  1.0  1.3  1.0  0.10 -0.25 0.0  0.5    1.0 1.0 0.8 1.5  0.3  40000  	40048  0    2

 

•Carcol.dat: Original (but should be optimized to add variety)

 

benson,  113,17,113, 116,108,116, 

 

•Vehicle.ide: Original

 

benson,  benson,  car,  BENSON,  BENSON,  [email protected],	[email protected]_BA1,  10,	999,  0.2944,	0.2944,  0.7,	1,	1.5	,2,	noboot+avoidturns+big+ext_requi+truckfirefx+truckenginefx

 

•Extras:

 

-Extra 1: None

-Extra 2: Ads

-Extra 3: Ads

-Extra 4: Ads

-Extra 5: Ads

-Extra 6: Ads

-Extra 7: Ads

-Extra 8: None

-Extra 9: None

 

 

 

•Bug test:

 

-Flashing rim: No

-Invisible Trunk or hood: No

-Extra spawning: Ok

-ENB Reflections: Ok

-Wheel don't touch the ground: No

-LOD bug: No

-Other bug: No

 

 

•comments:

Just a texture replacement for the benson.

I've made some ads, but those are not clean and new like the one you can find everywhere, those are scratched and dirty!

 

TESTED

Edited April 2, 2010 by Gus-84

[Gus-84 1]

•Yankee: Ford L8000.

 

 

 

 

•Author: Gus

•locked WFT: No

•Permission to mod: Yes

•WFT size (original/mod): 424Ko /424Ko

•WTD size (original/mod): 159Ko / 159Ko

•Polycount (original/mod): 11405

•3D model: Original

•Textures: Modified by Gus

•Number of doors/seats: 3/2

•Licence plate: generic (NYC 85)

 

 

•Handling: Original

 

YANKEE      11000.0  4.0   80	0.0 0.0 -0.15    0.0  6  0.10  1.0 105.0	0.15 0.60 0.25 40.0  1.05 0.85 16.0 0.20 0.46  1.5  1.0  1.0  0.20 -0.17 0.0  0.5    1.0 1.0 0.8 1.5  0.0  30000  	224009  0    2

 

•Carcol.dat: Original (but should be optimized to add variety)

 

yankee,  15,112,1, 26,78,1, 

 

•Vehicle.ide: Original

 

yankee,  yankee,  car,  YANKEE,  YANKEE,  [email protected],	[email protected]_LL_LO,  10,	999,  0.3141,	0.3141,  0.6,	2,	1.5	,1,	noboot+avoidturns+delivery+ext_requi+truckfirefx+truckenginefx+livery+ext_strong

 

•Extras:

 

-Extra 1: None

-Extra 2: Ads

-Extra 3: Ads

-Extra 4: Ads

-Extra 5: Ads

-Extra 6: Ads

-Extra 7: Ads

-Extra 8: None

-Extra 9: None

 

 

 

•Bug test:

 

-Flashing rim: No

-Invisible Trunk or hood: No

-Extra spawning: Ok

-ENB Reflections: Ok

-Wheel don't touch the ground: No

-LOD bug: No

-Other bug: No

 

 

•comments:

Just a texture replacement for the Yankee.

I've made some ads, but those are not clean and new like the one you can find everywhere, those are scratched and dirty!

 

TESTED

Edited April 2, 2010 by Gus-84

[Gus-84 1]

•Sabre GT: Chevrolet Chevelle SS

 

 

 

 

 

•Author: Invictus

•locked WFT: Yes

•Permission to mod: No

•WFT size (original/mod): 518Ko / 747Ko

•WTD size (original/mod): 127Ko / 443Ko

•Polycount (original/mod): 13304 / ?

•3D model: Modified

•Textures: Modified

•Number of doors/seats: 3/2

•Licence plate: generic (NYC 85)

 

 

•Handling: Modified by Rob.zombie

 

SABREGT 1600.0 0.5 85 0.0 0.0 -0.3 0.0 4 0.225 1.0 185.0 0.45 0.65 0.7 32.0 1.4 1.15 32 0.15 0.49 1.3 0.6 0.6 0.1 -0.1 0.02 0.5 1.0 1.0 2.2 2.5 0.0 12000 440000 0 0

 

•Carcol.dat: Original

 

sabregt,  0,0,49, 38,38,85, 0,97,102, 3,0,12, 6,6,4, 11,4,12, 13,13,12, 16,95,90, 24,1,12, 21,21,12, 23,23,2, 31,31,27, 32,113,34, 34,12,34, 49,13,41, 52,0,59, 62,13,69, 76,4,76, 82,85,76, 87,8,76, 89,0,4, 92,95,90, 95,95,2, 106,103,2,  

 

•Vehicle.ide: Original

 

sabregt,  sabregt,	car,  SABREGT,	SABREGT,	[email protected],	[email protected]_LE2_RI2,	100,	999,  0.2240,	0.2240,  0,	5,	1.0	,0,	-

 

•Extras:

 

-Extra 1: None

-Extra 2: None

-Extra 3: None

-Extra 4: None

-Extra 5: None

-Extra 6: None

-Extra 7: None

-Extra 8: None

-Extra 9: None

 

 

•Bug test:

 

-Shooting from car: a bit too low

-camera: Ok

-damages: Ok

-Flashing rim: No

-Invisible Trunk or hood: No

-Extra spawning: Ok

-ENB Reflections: Ok

-Wheel don't touch the ground: No

-LOD bug: Basic LOD, but still Ok

-Other bug: No

 

 

•comments:

As advised by AmirGTR we will put this chevrolet in replacement of the sabre GT.

Not much to say, the model is very good. It's just too bad there is no stripe and no licence plate

Please Invictus, make some stripe and licence plate.

 

TESTED, NEED AUTHOR PERMISION TO RELEASE, IF ANYONE KNOW INVICTUS PLEASE CONTACT HIM !

Edited May 15, 2010 by Gus-84

[_Charger_ 0]

I have the game with original cars but i have two mods:

 

Real Names Mod (german) http://www.gtainside.com/download.php?do=c...&orderBy=voting

 

Real Car Signs http://www.gtainside.com/en/download.php?d...art=56&id=20927

 

 

The first mod includes 3 mods, and one of them ( http://www.gtainside.com/download.php?do=c...=20858&orderBy= ) and there is a list of all cars with their real life counterpart.

 

maybe the list help

Edited April 2, 2010 by _Charger_

[SALAVEY13 0]

Gus, maybe you should cooperate with this guy?

[AmirGTR 0]

You'll thank me for this link:

http://gta.wikia.com/Vehicles_in_GTA_IV

 

 

Something I wanted to bring up was the name of this mod. You need a name to distinguish this "not another car pack" from the rest and make it stand out. After a bit of research, I came up with this title:

The Veritas Car Pack

 

Veritas is an ancient Roman goddess. The name itself means "truth". See the connection?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veritas

 

Just something to think about.

 

Good work so far, the Chevelle is a great choice btw. Hopefully we'll get some stripes on that f*cker too soon. I'm gonna contact a few other people about some better models to replace Ruiner and Faction.

 

More cars I researched:

 

Feroci:

Lexus ES300:

 

Futo:

Levin AE86

 

Bobcat:

Chevrolet C/K / GMC Sierra:

Edited April 3, 2010 by AmirGTR

[Gus-84 1]

Thanks AmirGTR for your research, hope you can find some good mod to replace these car.

 

For the name of the pack I allready have an idea.

I'm working with Emble on "Viva New York" mod and I would like my pack to be an extension of this mod.

I was thinking about "Viva New York: Cars' n' Trucks". I've asked Emble his permission, and to make me a logo

like the one of his mod.

But I can't edit the first post to change his title, that the first board I see where editing topic title is not possible...

 

I will be away for two day, keep up the good work during this time.

I'm also changing my internet provider, so I may have no connection during a few day and all pictures of the topic

may disapear during a short time. don't freak out, I will fix this as soon as possible.

 

See you soon.

Gus.

[Berto 0]

I can provide Chrysler 300C instead of PMP600

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7845/0001sqw.jpg

and Lexus IS300 Stock as Sultan and IS300 Tuned as Sultan RS

[Gus-84 1]

This car are yours?

the chrysler is not the one from smokey or Dolmat?

 

Are you the original author of these cars? if yes, I'm very interrested by your proposition.

 

Thank you.

[Berto 0]

Chrysler 300C is from NFS Carbon Converted by me!

Interior i took from TDU Unlimited

 

Lexus IS300 is from NFS Most Wanted and meaby i will attach interior from Juiced 2

 

ps: check my web page for my latest converted vehicles for GTA IV

Edited April 3, 2010 by Berto

[SALAVEY13 0]

Berto, are you Stiopa?

[_Charger_ 0]

Maybe this could help u to find the right cars

 

 

(Intruder = '06 Infiniti Q45)

[Berto 0]

Berto, are you Stiopa?

I thought you allready know!

Stiopa is my Official Name/Nick name

I use berto when Stiopa is allready token nickname

[SALAVEY13 0]

Berto, are you Stiopa?

I thought you allready know!

Stiopa is my Official Name/Nick name

I use berto when Stiopa is allready token nickname

No, i didn't, excuse me) I just tried your aston martin, that's fantastic! Tell me the secret - how did you achieve such small wft size? Show me your L1

[Berto 0]

Well it's not my fault!

It's EA Games who made car with LODS so i didn't achieved anything.

 

I made LODs for X5 only, and it weight's 1.2mb i think it's quote nice for such quality...

[dj jazzy death 1]

Well if anyone is interested in converting a '93 honda accord to gta 4 from gta sa i found one. Its on gta garage and made by Sylvania. Yes it is stock. Great replacement for the hakumai. Thanks

[AmirGTR 0]

Well if anyone is interested in converting a '93 honda accord to gta 4 from gta sa i found one. Its on gta garage and made by Sylvania. Yes it is stock. Great replacement for the hakumai. Thanks

I looked and couldn't find it. Do you have a link?