An analyst expects GTA V to be announced before E3

[Jabalous]

 

 

With Take-Two's fiscal announcement yesterday, the publisher announced that Rockstar's GTA IV had surpassed 15 million copies sold around the globe. Grand Theft Auto fans enjoyed their episodic content, but now they're chomping at the bit for the next full GTA title. While Take-Two chairman Strauss Zelnick said that there's no need to annualize the GTA franchise, you can bet that Rockstar's hard at work on GTA V right now.

 

Janco Partners analyst Mike Hickey commented that "there is building suspension for a pre-E3 GTA V announcement, although we expect nothing from Rockstar at this year’s official E3 event." GTA is one of those franchises that's so huge that Rockstar doesn't even need to do it at E3; Rockstar and Take-Two could hold their own event and announce the title in the days leading right up to E3, when many publishers often do hold separate press events.

 

Hickey continued, "We think the next iteration of GTA for console can significantly outsell its predecessor, reflecting on the sales acceleration of the prior cycle GTA console iterations, an accelerating core gamer installed base (with an emphasis on PS3 installed expansion where GTA has historically dominated relatively), and the most talented / motivated development team in the world, in our view."

 

Take-Two has yet to provide an update on the next iteration of GTA, and while we think it's doubtful that GTA V will ship in 2010, we think that an early 2011 release is entirely possible. 

 

 

The Source

[Nova69_7]

Wow! Nice find FiS!!HeR. GTA is probably bigger than E3 anyway so deserves it own event and announcement. This is great news for anyone who was hoping/expecting an announcement of sorts ayt the start of march as they won't have too much longer to wait if this proves to be true.

[AnthMUFC-Champs]

Good find i think GTA V will be hinted at or revealed in the GTA EFLC manuel for the PS3 and PC and then fully anounced in April that maybe could be why RDR was pushed back untill may???

[PreciousWall]

maybe rockstar trying to make a suprise?

[jnzooger]

Hum... So the same type of people that said the MS paid for the DLC, thus it wasn't going to come to PS3/PC are now saying that Take2 are likely to announce a new GTA before E3 with emphasis on the PS3 (The historical GTA system.)

 

Where do I start debunking?

 

Analysts are paid to say what they think will happen based on what is best for their own clients. They let these "forecasts" leak in order to manipulate the stocks of the companies.

 

"although we expect nothing from Rockstar at this year's official E3 event."

 

This line alone shows that this guy is not up on Take2's current plan. It has been confirmed that Take2/Rockstar will be at E3 showing something off. Whether or not that is GTA does not matter.

 

"(with an emphasis on PS3 installed expansion where GTA has historically dominated relatively)"

 

The PS3 so far has had ONE GTA game, and it was dominated by the 360 version. (Just the facts.) I realize he probably is talking about the Playstation brand in general, but taken in the presented form, he is wrong. Also, if he is saying that GTA is a Playstation-based game historically, he is wrong there to. GTA started on PC.

 

"and while we think it's doubtful that GTA V will ship in 2010, we think that an early 2011 release is entirely possible."

 

Not likely at all. Rockstar would have to announce the game in mid-late 2010 to do a 2011 release. This doesn't fit at all with them announcing it before E3. So if the announce it before/at E3 this year, expect a 2010 release. Otherwise, expect a LATE 2011 release.

[Mokrie Dela]

i agree with Jnzooger - Late '11 is when we will likely see the game. i dont think V will be announced till Sept onwards of this year.

 

Also you have to consider the probability of this "analyst" talking b*llocks, either a speculator (which, lets face it, is all he could be) or someone commissioned by Rockstar themselves to throw us a red herring.

I personally am going to de-focus on GTA for a while, RDR, splinter cell, Just cause 2, True Crime, and one other game i can't remember - they'll keep me entertained untill then.

[macorules94]

Late 11?

 

The IV logo came in March 07, and was set for October 2007.

 

If the Next GTA is announced by May, it'll probably come in November or December 2010

[AnthMUFC-Champs]

Late 11?

 

The IV logo came in March 07, and was set for October 2007.

 

If the Next GTA is announced by May, it'll probably come in November or December 2010

Yes i can see either an October 2010(unlikely),December-February release or an April 2011 release.

[macorules94]

Yeah probably early 2011. I really would hate it if it's late 2011

[Helsinki]

 

Hum... So the same type of people that said the MS paid for the DLC, thus it wasn't going to come to PS3/PC are now saying that Take2 are likely to announce a new GTA before E3 with emphasis on the PS3 (The historical GTA system.)

 

Same type of people? So most analysts said that the DLC will never end up on other formats? I doubt that, but maybe you have a list or something...

 

 

Analysts are paid to say what they think will happen based on what is best for their own clients. They let these "forecasts" leak in order to manipulate the stocks of the companies.

 

If that were the case, there would be no analysts. After all, who would ever use them, if they simply lied on behalf of their clients? No, they try to hit the target, so to speak, to get more clients.

 

 

"although we expect nothing from Rockstar at this year's official E3 event."

 

This line alone shows that this guy is not up on Take2's current plan. It has been confirmed that Take2/Rockstar will be at E3 showing something off. Whether or not that is GTA does not matter.

 

Err... what? Hickey said "there is building suspension for a pre-E3 GTA V announcement, although we expect nothing from Rockstar at this year’s official E3 event." So, he said they expect nothing GTA5 related at the official event.

 

 

"(with an emphasis on PS3 installed expansion where GTA has historically dominated relatively)"

 

The PS3 so far has had ONE GTA game, and it was dominated by the 360 version. (Just the facts.) I realize he probably is talking about the Playstation brand in general, but taken in the presented form, he is wrong. Also, if he is saying that GTA is a Playstation-based game historically, he is wrong there to. GTA started on PC.

 

Well, he could be referring to sales per installed base, where I think the PS3 has a higher ratio of GTA games per consoles (probably cause PS3 HAS NO GAMEZ!). Or, more likely, the PlayStation console family, where PS2 versions outsold XBOX ones by A LOT. See

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-...ideo_games#Xbox

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-...s#PlayStation_2

 

I'm pretty damn sure Hickey isn't referring to the origins of the series, as most people outside us fans don't think of the pre-GTAIII 2D games when they speak of the series.

 

 

"and while we think it's doubtful that GTA V will ship in 2010, we think that an early 2011 release is entirely possible."

 

Not likely at all. Rockstar would have to announce the game in mid-late 2010 to do a 2011 release. This doesn't fit at all with them announcing it before E3. So if the announce it before/at E3 this year, expect a 2010 release. Otherwise, expect a LATE 2011 release.

 

Well, I don't expect the game any time soon, but I think it's possible for it to ship in early 2011. Remember, this is not the same market it was back in the previous console generation. A lot has changed.

[SmC12]

R* Have been at work on GTA for 2 years and probbably you could play GTA V right now if you wanted to(but without any main features like peds, cars etc. It would just be a basic city) but that wouldn't be right. So (if i'm right) 2 years is long enough to make up the main gameplay, and remember that it's the same engine etc. so all that is left is to come up with missions and add the gameplay features to the game which would only take a couple of months(judging by how big R* are). Even though GTA is mainly made by R* North there are still other parts of R* that help out so the work gets done much quicker. And it's not like EFLC for PC &PS3 is holding them back since it's not even R* North that are making that (i think).

 

So what i'm trying to say is that i think it is hightly likely that we will see some info on GTA 5 this year and possibly a release also this year, or in early 2011.

 

And nice find FiS!!HeR

Edited March 5, 2010 by SmC12

[Snake Without a Tongue]

I enjoy mulling over this kind of stuff, but there are no hard and fast rules about timelines in game development. There's no meat on this bone.

[TheTruePiMs]

I think the announcement of the next GTA won't happen until next year.

 

Rockstar is busy finishing and promoting Red Dead Redemption.

They also have LA Noire and Max Payne 3 coming this fall.

 

So it could break the hype of these 3 games if there's the announcement of the next GTA this year.

It is just my opinion, I can be wrong.

[Typhus]

Rockstar know what they're doing. Why get people excited about a game by using such silly little things as advertising? Why, staying completely silent is just as good! That's why there's a thriving online forum dedicated to Agent.

Right?

[Weirdo.]

Hum... So the same type of people that said the MS paid for the DLC, thus it wasn't going to come to PS3/PC are now saying that Take2 are likely to announce a new GTA before E3 with emphasis on the PS3 (The historical GTA system.)

How come everyone thinks that GTA started on the Playstation? It was on PC first, then ported over later.

[Chinatown Wars]

... If GTA V is announced AND released this year, this will be the most epi- no, the most awe-, no the bes-, no words cant even describe how big of a gaming year this could be.

[jnzooger]

Hum... So the same type of people that said the MS paid for the DLC, thus it wasn't going to come to PS3/PC are now saying that Take2 are likely to announce a new GTA before E3 with emphasis on the PS3 (The historical GTA system.)

How come everyone thinks that GTA started on the Playstation? It was on PC first, then ported over later.

If you read the rest of my post, you will see that I agree with that sentiment.

[Mr.D]

I believe that there is no way that we can have a Grand Theft Auto this year. I'm placing my bets on Q4 2011. Though if it does come out this year, 2010 will simply ROCK !!! (Not that it isn't already rocking but a GTA release would take it to a whole new level - at least for me).

[Helsinki]

 

... If GTA V is announced AND released this year, this will be the most epi- no, the most awe-, no the bes-, no words cant even describe how big of a gaming year this could be.

Regardless of whether GTAV will come out or not* I think 2010 is on its way to become the best gaming year of the 3D era.

 

*I seriously doubt it will.

[Mainland Marauder]

Hum... So the same type of people that said the MS paid for the DLC, thus it wasn't going to come to PS3/PC are now saying that Take2 are likely to announce a new GTA before E3 with emphasis on the PS3 (The historical GTA system.)

How come everyone thinks that GTA started on the Playstation? It was on PC first, then ported over later.

Speaking strictly of consoles, however, it's true.

 

As for the E3 announcement, I'll believe it when I see it, and even if there is an announcement, I don't expect to see a new game until at least the second half of 2011. And really, I'd just as soon wait and not get a rushed piece of crap. This is Rockstar we're talking about, not EA.

[Typhus]

But don't you think they should get the ball rolling when it comes to advertising? I mean, at this point what's the harm in putting out a few viral sites? Or even calculated hints and rumours spread around the various GTA fansites?

I just don't get this policy of silence, especially in relation to games with such an enthusiastic, rabid following.

[YamiFly]

Or R would wat to release soon after announce. But by taking the EFLC to PC and PS3 they are trying to get the fans without so much expectation. Maybe, the announcment will be done 3 or 4 months before the release, with releasing a bit of contents 1-2 times a week, therefore keeping us at bay. Making us wait too much may be an error. But making us wait too little is an error too. They woulden't have time to do GTA VI (or whatever is the title) and the fans will finish the game soon. But anyways, look at IV! People are still playing it! Muliplayer, 100%... darn even SA get' played sometimes...

 

It is not necessary for V to come out thi year, and R knows that.

l

Anyone who played MK knows how wrong it is too come out with games too soon. Like in Deception, there where clues to "super-hidden characters" and tons of more Kontent (goes with K because MK tradition...) and they didn't finish it because Midway made MK Team do it FAST. That's why they lost fans with MK 4 and some fans with MK 3.

 

I would have preffered to wait for MKD and have the "ultra-hidden characters" and more Kontent (like the Frozen Katakoms for that matter) and not have MKD so early.

 

Patiance is rewarded.

[SmC12]

R* don't have to announce GTA V months before it's release. They can announce it 1month before release if they wanted to. Maybe GTA 5 has been made but R* feel they don't have to announce it untill the release date gets close.

 

i doubt this but it could be true.

[YamiFly]

Hope that they didn't hurry to do it if what you say is true SmC12...

[SmC12]

Hope that they didn't hurry to do it if what you say is true SmC12...

It all depends on how long a GTA game takes to make ( i have no idea). I think GTA 4 took about 2 years too make (about 2 1/4 with the delay but that was just finishing touches.) So since GTA IV it's been about 2 years and R* are using the RAGE engine and the same consoles so not as much work is needed it's just simply making the game that is the problem, whereas GTA 4 took so long because it was a new game,new engine,new console, and a new era! But GTA 5 is just a new GTA so if i'm right then the game wouldn't have been rushed if it was released this year because they had 2 years to make GTA 5 with mostly the same technology. Basically instead of R* focusing on trying to get the game right with the new engine etc. this time all their focus would be on the actuall GTA 5, not about the technology it runs on, if you get what i mean .

 

Only time will tell

[HDM018]

Is it really going to be GTA V actually? Might be something I missed out, but we all know that after III we also got Vice City and San Andreas, which were no IV's. So how we know for sure R* ain't doing something like that again?

 

On the time thing: I just hope they take enough time they need to develop the game. Nobody will be happy if they will follow EA's policy known from many series including NFS.

[jnzooger]

R* don't have to announce GTA V months before it's release. They can announce it 1month before release if they wanted to. Maybe GTA 5 has been made but R* feel they don't have to announce it untill the release date gets close.

 

i doubt this but it could be true.

R* just pushed back RDR to allow more time for marketing. So yes, they do have to announce it months ahead. It's called marketing.

[Sergi]

R* don't have to announce GTA V months before it's release. They can announce it 1month before release if they wanted to. Maybe GTA 5 has been made but R* feel they don't have to announce it untill the release date gets close. 

 

i doubt this but it could be true.

R* just pushed back RDR to allow more time for marketing. So yes, they do have to announce it months ahead. It's called marketing.

No they delayed RDR because they felt it needed more time to polish. It's called making a great game. On subject R* usually announces a new GTA about 6-7 months to a year before it's release and usually they just announce that they are working on a new GTA and maybe the title with no details on the game. Since VC however GameInformer has been the 1st magazine with the unveiling and that unveiling it usually 4-5 months after they announce a new GTA. Seeing as it's entirely possible that a 2010 release date could come, if they announce it in March they can reveal it with details around July which is E3 and have a cover story with details being released weekly from then on similar to SA and the game could come out by October or November.

[grope_4_that_date]

I've looked into the future. If I want to know the future, read the spoilers. If you do not want to read the future, you have been warned.

 

The Future (the following will contain spoilers):

 

• GTAV will be released on October 27, 2010.

• Rockstar will announce Agent at E3.

[macorules94]

I've looked into the future. If I want to know the future, read the spoilers. If you do not want to read the future, you have been warned.

 

The Future (the following will contain spoilers):

 

• GTAV will be released on October 27, 2010.

• Rockstar will announce Agent at E3.

No we haven't been warned. You said, if I a.k.a YOU want to know the future, read the spoilers