OchyGTA Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Sorry to go off on a rant but it pisses me off when America are always perceived as good guys despite all the wrongs they have committed (Invasion of Vietnam and bombing of Hiroshima/Nagasaki) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AreXi Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Captain Price died in COD 4, we all saw it so he shouldn't of been in MW2 Someone can be passed out out of blood loss/shock and not be dead, and be revived at the hospital/by medics. (also he is just an annoying twat) Naaaaaah. what was up with General Shepard being the most f*cked up guy ever and sacrificing loads of soldiers just to save face and increase the standing of the military. Thats not an MW2 issue, films/games/books have had characters like that fsince the beggining of time. The game never explained why Price launched the missile Yeah it did. But no problem, I get that you generally dont understand things. Ghost and Gaz sounding exactly the same They were voiced by the same guy. Pvt. Allen is put into a terrorist organization almost immediately despite not speaking Russian (as far as we are aware) I think we can assume that when sending people undercover, they have the appropriate cover. MW3 really needs to avoid huge plot holes like these or its gonna suck more than MW2. What plot holes? Oh and also, in the mission where you massacre the civilians, at least one of the other Russian terrorists dies. Funny how the Russian government ignore this just so they can go to war with America. You sure about that? I dont remember any of the russians dying, afaik, they cant actually die. Lets remember, Russia are bad because they had a different government to America. How terrible What? Right, the nationalists abandoned Captain Price in Cod 4 on the bridge, doubt you could survive that long after being shot and why would the Russians keep him alive any way When you next play as Task Force 141, they carry on talking as if Price didn't launch that missile. Pretty much everyone I spoke to who played the game said they didn't get it the first time round No sh*t Gaz and Ghost sounded the same, I never said they weren't voiced by the same guy. To me, it was lazy development There is a two day period between Pvt Allen fighting in Afghanistan and becoming an undercover agent in a huge terrorist organization One of the Russians can die in 'No Russian' when you fight the police outside the airport as they say he is dead The point I was making about Russia was that they are always the bad guys in these games because America is always the beacon of hope for humanity. It is lazy and the only reason Russia are bad guys in video games is because they had a communist regime throughout the 20th century. In my opinion, America are the bad guys in relation to the cold war/modern day. America had every right to hunt down terrorists in Iraq when it was clearly an excuse to occupy a nation with oil and take down a regime they didn't want anymore but when Russia invaded Georgia (South Ossetia) it was wrong. They didn't abandon Price. The last thing you see is someone trying to revive Price. The nuke was launched to create the EMP that wiped whole Washington. If you had stayed awake during the game you would've caught that. And about Allen, it's not like they just picked some random soldier. I'm quite positive they did a background check on him, reading reports and such, seeing he knows russian, can stay cool under pressure etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 They didn't abandon Price. The last thing you see is someone trying to revive Price. The nuke was launched to create the EMP that wiped whole Washington. If you had stayed awake during the game you would've caught that. And about Allen, it's not like they just picked some random soldier. I'm quite positive they did a background check on him, reading reports and such, seeing he knows russian, can stay cool under pressure etc. You see the soldier punching Price after failing to revive him and they must have left him otherwise he wouldn't have been in the gulag I knew that but it was stupid that none of Task Force 141 talked about it after he did it. Ghost screams when Price launches the missile you see it hit the space station and all the electronics go down but they never discuss it. Seems odd that they wouldn't talk about the thing that turned the tide in America's favor I'm sure they did but it was silly that he was put into a big operation about two days after being selected. Also, I'm fairly sure the American military would never use a private for an operation that big. Would have made more sense if he was a higher rank or a spec op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0mm2k8 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Invasion of Vietnam and bombing of Hiroshima/Nagasaki The invasion of Vietnam wasn't entirely wrong, but the way a lot of the US soldiers acted and the methods of war could be described as wrong. And Hiroshima and Nagasaki? What were the Americans supposed to do? Push Japan back to their homeland, fight them there and kill many more than they did with the atomic bombs? The Japanese strategically placed their military bases inside civilian areas too, I believe, so they couldn't just bomb those alone. It was the quickest and most effective way at ending the war (with less casualties, believe it or not), making it go out with a BANG and showing the world the true power of war. What's wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Invasion of Vietnam and bombing of Hiroshima/Nagasaki The invasion of Vietnam wasn't entirely wrong, but the way a lot of the US soldiers acted and the methods of war could be described as wrong. And Hiroshima and Nagasaki? What were the Americans supposed to do? Push Japan back to their homeland, fight them there and kill many more than they did with the atomic bombs? The Japanese strategically placed their military bases inside civilian areas too, I believe, so they couldn't just bomb those alone. It was the quickest and most effective way at ending the war (with less casualties, believe it or not), making it go out with a BANG and showing the world the true power of war. What's wrong with that? I understand that America invaded Vietnam to prevent the spread of Communism but it wasn't America's place to do so. They don't run the world and they shouldn't intervene in another countries business unless an atrocity (like in Libya) is taking place. Furthermore, I agree it was the quickest way to end the war in the Pacific but can that justify the deaths of thousands of civilians and the destruction of the landscape which is still radiated because of the bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0mm2k8 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Furthermore, I agree it was the quickest way to end the war in the Pacific but can that justify the deaths of thousands of civilians and the destruction of the landscape which is still radiated because of the bombs. It's war. After the atrocities in Europe, Hiroshima and Nagasaki are nothing compared. This is the wrong topic to discuss this I suppose anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Furthermore, I agree it was the quickest way to end the war in the Pacific but can that justify the deaths of thousands of civilians and the destruction of the landscape which is still radiated because of the bombs. It's war. After the atrocities in Europe, Hiroshima and Nagasaki are nothing compared. This is the wrong topic to discuss this I suppose anyways. Yh i guess your right but I think its always important to remember that America committed a war crime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptiste Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 You see the soldier punching Price after failing to revive him Out of the all the crap you said, I'll just pick this one out. A good cardiac massage usually breaks ribs, hitting the chest with clenched fists, while not being the most proffesional, is deffinitly a viable way of doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I'm looking forward to the multiplayer the most of course. Campaign is like a little bonus to me, if anything. And the graphical work looks great so far if those leaked pictures are real. I'm getting kinda tired of the cartoony look of Black Ops older engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackal1337 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) Captain Price died in COD 4, we all saw it so he shouldn't of been in MW2 Someone can be passed out out of blood loss/shock and not be dead, and be revived at the hospital/by medics. in COD4 price was supposed to die, if u use mods in PC version to look at price and soldier reviving him when u are being lifted into helicopter u can see russian giving up reviving, but i see IW wanted to have him in sequel Oh and also, in the mission where you massacre the civilians, at least one of the other Russian terrorists dies. Funny how the Russian government ignore this just so they can go to war with America. You sure about that? I dont remember any of the russians dying, afaik, they cant actually die. Theres actually two russian terrorists(Lev and Kiril) SCRIPTED to die during shootout with police, so it is pretty much major plot hole that US is invaded for one dead CIA agent present in attack, while 2 other russians(who were most likely convicted criminals/terrorists etc.) are found too Edited May 15, 2011 by Jackal1337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moth Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Theres actually two russian terrorists(Lev and Kiril) SCRIPTED to die during shootout with police, so it is pretty much major plot hole that US is invaded for one dead CIA agent present in attack, while 2 other russians(who were most likely convicted criminals/terrorists etc.) are found too While was I reading the COD wiki,(yes i know you can't really trust it) , it said the Russian know that Russian did the attack, but that the Americans gave the terrorist the money and arms to do the attack. So if that is to be believe, it really is not a plot hole. Formerly known as The General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinatown Wars Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (bombing of Hiroshima/Nagasaki) GTFO of here. NOW 1st of all you obviously were asleep while playing mw2 and secondly, wtf, were we supposed to do nothing and let Japan attack? PEARL HARBOR RING A BELL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (bombing of Hiroshima/Nagasaki) GTFO of here. NOW 1st of all you obviously were asleep while playing mw2 and secondly, wtf, were we supposed to do nothing and let Japan attack? PEARL HARBOR RING A BELL? Pearl Harbor death toll: 2403 Hiroshima and Nagasaki death toll: 300 000 until today, and counting So please shut the f*ck up. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moth Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 If you want to talk about the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, go here. There is a topic there just for this. And lets keep this topic to news and anything related to MW3, everything else shouldn't be posted here. Formerly known as The General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubbs51 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I suggest we shut up about the war crimes. Almost all major country is guilty of some thing that view as a war crime by some. Plus if we keep on with this argument i'm sure the mods will be handing out warnings and/or temp bans like a pedophile does candy... The picks look interesting. The graphics look pretty good in my opinion. I hope the MP is fun though and that there isnt any (or as much) glitches like in MW2. The Javalin and Carepackage glitches were annoying as f*ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 CODMW3 info leaked, read here!!! funny comment from site: How to make a Call of Duty game in 10 easy steps: Step 1: Use an outdated game engine from 2005 Step 2: Insert crappy storyline about Russians and nuclear weapons Step 3: Design a character that 12 year olds will perceive as "cool" and refer to him only by his mysterious call sign. Step 4: Kill said character in a scripted event 2/3 way through the campaign. Step 5: Kill key bad guy in another scripted event involving slow motion Step 6: Add a halfbaked multiplayer mode. Make sure that there are plenty of glitches and imbalances and good places to camp. Step 7: Profit. Step 8: Release overpriced map pack. Step 9: Profit some more. Step 10: Repeat steps 1-10 until series has been sufficiently milked dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) Those map names make them sound good This gun looks plastic, like the guns in Black Ops :\ Edited May 15, 2011 by Piperka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinomontana Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 ill just stick with arma 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHCharls Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) ( I know some of u got mad of this,stop blaming me).I am sorry for not putting the spoiler tag. . i shouldnt do this again.f*ck sh*t btw i also deleted the spoiler Edited May 15, 2011 by PHCharls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Captain Price died in COD 4, we all saw it so he shouldn't of been in MW2 Someone can be passed out out of blood loss/shock and not be dead, and be revived at the hospital/by medics. in COD4 price was supposed to die, if u use mods in PC version to look at price and soldier reviving him when u are being lifted into helicopter u can see russian giving up reviving, but i see IW wanted to have him in sequel Oh and also, in the mission where you massacre the civilians, at least one of the other Russian terrorists dies. Funny how the Russian government ignore this just so they can go to war with America. You sure about that? I dont remember any of the russians dying, afaik, they cant actually die. Theres actually two russian terrorists(Lev and Kiril) SCRIPTED to die during shootout with police, so it is pretty much major plot hole that US is invaded for one dead CIA agent present in attack, while 2 other russians(who were most likely convicted criminals/terrorists etc.) are found too Thank you, IW and Activi$ion realised they could take us for mugs and get so much money out of the series so they brought a dead guy back and there is no mention in the storyline of Americans funding the attack. To be honest, I'm sure Makarov who seems to have a f*cking army could get a few machine guns and grenades. Major plot hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude4Catalina Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 from what you can tell, they used M4A1's and M240's...both American weapons in service with US Army Rangers, which ties in with the other side of the campaign. they also use a Striker which is South African but the Ultranationist's use them anyway, so it would have looked a little bit like a US funded attack on Russia, with some Russian elements. Mogadishu is going to be included? I hope they have some decent Black Hawk Down references, I'd love to see the remains of a Black Hawk left rusting for over 10 years as a set piece, be a pretty cool history reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuareg Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Is there any word on who's doing the soundtrack? Or who are? I really wish it was Hans Zimmer again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KilnerLUFC Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 CODMW3 info leaked, read here!!! It's the same information as posted before...it even links you to the Kotaku site. The site you linked looks like some 12 year old wrote it anyway with the amount of mistakes. Good to see an update to the MP maps, in the graphical sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minic Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Is there any word on who's doing the soundtrack? Or who are? I really wish it was Hans Zimmer again. Hans Zimmer only actually did one song for the MW2 soundtrack, the rest were all done by a completely different composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullMetal Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 (bombing of Hiroshima/Nagasaki) GTFO of here. NOW 1st of all you obviously were asleep while playing mw2 and secondly, wtf, were we supposed to do nothing and let Japan attack? PEARL HARBOR RING A BELL? Pearl Harbor death toll: 2403 Hiroshima and Nagasaki death toll: 300 000 until today, and counting So please shut the f*ck up. Thanks. It's not about the death toll and it's not about getting back for Pearl Harbor (probably the dumbest thing I've heard). Reason they nuked Japan twice is due to the fact that the Japanese weren't in any hurry to surrender soon. (Hardcore diehard motherf*ckers, which is a thing that should be admired and respected). Yes, overkill... yes civilians... yes f*cked up. But I think pretty much any nation would've done the same. Also that one screenshot is obviously from BLACK OPS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Also that one screenshot is obviously from BLACK OPS... Thank god for that! Also, you raise good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoii Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 MW3 reveal on May 24th according to Amazon and GAME; http://www.computerandvideogames.com/30184...set-for-may-24/ Modern Warfare 3 looks set for an official reveal (i.e. not one that's leaked all over the internet) next week, on Tuesday, May 24. That's according to a countdown timer that briefly appeared on Amazon, pointing to a Call of Duty reveal next week. An email from rival retailer GAME then later told customers to expect "more intel" on Modern Warfare 3 on May 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Too much hype for just a reveal of a game that we already know is coming out this year. I don't give a sh*t about all this mystery "intel" bullsh*t and whatnot. I just want screens to judge and information about what will be in the game. f*cking a. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Too much hype for just a reveal of a game that we already know is coming out this year. I don't give a sh*t about all this mystery "intel" bullsh*t and whatnot. I just want screens to judge and information about what will be in the game. f*cking a. Stories already been leaked so im sure this reveal is just a way of them catching up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Does anybody think there will be a Hardened or Prestige edition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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