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Map 2 - GTA Token 18


Ferneu

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Hey there. I'm trying to get the token 18 of map 2 (Residential Sector).

 

I've seen those maps posted on older topics, but even though they say where it is, I can't even see the darn thing.

 

There was even a hint on the other topic, saying to look for a cubby hole, but I cannot find this hole. Can someone post more specific instructions? A screen shot might be very helpfull.

 

Thanks in advance!

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Ha!

 

Thank you so much! Would you believe that all this time I was hitting my head just a little bit to the left of the correct place? I thought that the place where the whole is was a wall and the hole people were talking about was that black grating just to the left...

 

Thanks again!

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Well i didn't know also when i first played it.

I didn't have any internet or something to look at.

Just accidentally i found it. I once collected them all when i just started playing GTA2.

Years ago.

 

But sometimes it's good to find out things by yourself. This is what makes it interesting.

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So some of those tokens are hidden. But since I'm new to GTA2, just installed it this year, can you tell me what these tokens do? I'm still stuck at the first arena, because I need $50000 to save the game, and it's hard to get. smile.gif

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They open a bonus level. You can see your open bonus levels in the main menu, right under the "Play in area" section. Bonus levels are nine: A, B, C [...] I. You have to pass al KFs, collect all tokens and do something else I forgot to open them all. A, B and C are opened in first area, D, E and F are opened in second area and G, H and I are opened in third area.

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But sometimes it's good to find out things by yourself. This is what makes it interesting.

No doubt about that. In the matter of fact, that was exactly what I was trying

to do, but this game came out (at least the free downloadable version) with some annoying bugs that are making things more difficult than they already

are. Specially on the Residential Sector.

 

My goal was to fully complete all 3 maps (all jobs, all tokens, all KFs, etc).

So far I managed to do it on the first one. But the second map is a pain...

 

We start by the fact that some green phone missions are harder than some

of the red ones.

 

Then we can talk about how you are able to complete 8 of 7 jobs for the

Red Necks and how that can glitch the last job. I mean, I did all Red Neck

jobs, all Zaibatsu's and the, after I finished the one before the last for the

Scientists, the game thought that I had finished them all (because of the

extra job for the Red Necks) and triggered the "final job" (the one were

you kill all three bosses). Well, I passed it and then saved the game. And

then guess what happened? I cannot do the last Scientist job. If I go to

the phone, the dude will say that I am already on a job, which is

impossible otherwise I couldn't have saved. And don't matter what I do,

the game will not give me the last job (the one where you must destroy

the water reservatory). And if you think that is bad, just keep reading:

the GTA token 23 disappeard after that happend!

 

Oh well, lets see, now I have 23/22 jobs and 49/50 tokens and I cannot

complete the last job and neighter take the last token...

 

So, any news about your source code petition, so we can fix this baby?

Altough I doubt we'll be hearing anything at all from them. At least right

now, with that whole fuss on some of Rockstar studios

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So, any news about your source code petition, so we can fix this baby?

Altough I doubt we'll be hearing anything at all from them. At least right

now, with that whole fuss on some of Rockstar studios

That is fixed with the GTA2 Script, not with the GTA2.exe source code. But we would need ste.SCR uncompiled, wich is the second level script, and it wasnt released. R* only released script for 3rd level. So theres no way of fixing it unless R* releases the script

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Never say never Gustavob.

 

If you can tell me what exactly needs to be fixed i could take a look.

But of course i can't promise anything. It's not easy stuff to mess with.

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If you can tell me what exactly needs to be fixed i could take a look.

But of course i can't promise anything. It's not easy stuff to mess with.

Look at Ferneu's last post. It happened to me once too, its annoying. Its probably a problem in the all_missions_passed, sci_missions_passed (i think) in the ste.SCR file. Its very difficult to fix it without the .mis file.

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Maybe actually fixing savegame would help in such cases?

So game will actually will find that there are some jobs / tokens not "done".

 

And Ferneu: i don't think that R* will release sources.

Many emails are sent, some have replies like: "We don't plan to release any of our sourcecode", some like: "We will send your email to someone with higher power in R*"

and sometimes they don't reply at all or reply weeks later.

 

There is not much of a hope about getting the sources.

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That probably cant be fixed with saved game, but with decompiled script, or by hex editing the compiled script. You cant get the last SRS mission even before saving when this happens, so its not a saved game bug.

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What i meant that if we mess with savegame, then maybe it "makes a GTA2 think" there is one unfinished job left.

 

But of course i can be wrong. It maybe doesn't help.

 

 

But if you said that it can't be done even without saving then it's really script.

And decompiler takes alot of time and devotion (24/7) to be able complete this tool.

But i don't have so much time. It comes slowly and at the moment i stopped working on it.

I have enough troubles with editor itself. I can't work on 2 big projects. Editor has higher priority.

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That is fixed with the GTA2 Script, not with the GTA2.exe source code.

You are right about that. At least if we just consider the problems I've posted.

 

But if we talk about the stuff I forgot to mention, like the annoying slowdowns

that happen every time (at least with me) you north from the start point and

then a little bit to the left, right where the train line "crosses" witht

Zaibatsu Village's entrance.

 

Altough the game engine slowdowns there every single time, you can "restore" it

by ALT+TABing. It is a fix alright, but a really a annoying one. And lets not

start about the possibility of the game not working properly anymore after that

(as is stated on the readme file) or even crashing. Some systems are also very

unfriendly with this whole going back to the windows desktop from an application

running in full screen Direct-X mode.

 

One might say that all the risks above could be reduced by running the game on a

window. That is true, indeed. At least I did not have problems so far with the

whole minimizing-maximazing deal to bring the number of frames per second back

to the original value. But that brings us to another game engine problem: you

must be running on 16bpp for it to work.

 

So, as you can see, there are a couple of things that could be solved with the

source. But then again, as we all seem to agree, the chances of that happening

on the near future are pretty close to zero.

 

If only R* shared a little bit of ID Software mentality... I mean, Quake World

is still strong after 13 years (at least in Europe) and if we disregard the fact

that it is the best multiplayer FPS ever made, a lot of its popularity comes

from the fact that people have been constantly creating and improving the game

with better clients, full of newer generation eye-candy and other helpfull

feautures.

 

By the way, thanks for all the help, but I'm not aksing for any of you to fix

things for me. The only help I really needed on this topic was where exactly the

18th token was. I've already created another profile just to be able to execute

the last Scientist job. Now I can say I've finished the second map 100% (well,

99% if we consider some impossible KFs, even trying to use the same tactics as

B-$hep used - the police cars simply disappers, even after being damaged)

 

Everything after that was just some random mumbling about how life could be

better, etc.

 

Thank you all!

 

:)

 

 

 

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