Don Garcia Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 However, Spiderman can't exist without a hint of camp. Without that layer of separation, or reminding you that you're watching a movie based on a fantastic comic book, then you'll be stripping the wise-cracking webslinger of half of his character. Spiderman lives in New York (which is quite real, believe me) protecting the world from dandied-up super-powered demi-gods like himself. It requires one's tongue to be firmly in cheek. I'd much rather Spiderman get the J.J.Abrams reboot than the Nolan reboot, which is what I'm sure they're after. I can just see the producers in a room, pitching themselves on Glee meets Star Trek, ogling a casting portfolio full of teenage girls. Well apparently the studio suits are aiming for TDK's gritty realism. Entertainment Weekly reports: This time around, the series will place Peter Parker in a more contemporary setting, as a teenager battling today’s issues. Who will helm the new film is anyone’s guess but with the studio interested in a more gritty, contemporary redo of the series, they are certainly focused on younger directors making waves in Hollywood. So I wouldn't hope for Glee meets Star Trek. Take out the glee and maybe. Perhaps they can make the humor gritty? I suppose that would be up to the writers. Here's hoping the dialogue is better this time around. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 This is all starting to sound like a disaster waiting to happen. Not that I loved the other 3 Spider-man movies, but I think they pretty much accomplished as much as Spider-man could on the big screen. To me it seems like they are trying too hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodfella. Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Doesn't mention anything about realism there. How do you make a Spider-Man film realistic anyway? going a bit grittier could mean they're going for something more like the first two X-Men films, or Iron Man even. Unless he's running around in the black suit, Spider-Man stories usually aren't gritty. They're generally about his difficulty in juggling both lives, love etc. Not everything has to be in relation to The Dark Knight. Apart from the Joker's lines, the dialogue in TDK wasn't all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Garcia Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 could mean they're going for something more like the first two X-Men films Not everything has to be in relation to The Dark Knight. Apart from the Joker's lines, the dialogue in TDK wasn't all that. Well everything outta Caine's mouth was pure gold. I chalk it up to the great cast and the delivery I guess, but I thought the dialogue was better than anything else I'd seen in a comic book flick. And I'd say going for X2 gritty would be a great place. It had awesome, visceral action (school assault), and there was still a decent amount of humor (wolverine getting up from the headshot). And I take gritty to mean real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodfella. Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I'd argue that Sin City was gritty but in no way realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Garcia Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 But that's purely because of the story and characters. The delivery, far as I'm concerned, was camp free and thus felt quite real. But I don't wanna get caught up in this web... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodfella. Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 The delivery was camp free?.. in Sin City!?... "you damn fool". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Garcia Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Well I bought it. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVDonline Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I don't like it very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willgtavcs Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 The spiderman trilogy is great. There is no need to reboot it and try to improve upon it, because all 3 films in the franchise were all critically and commercially successful. Its not like the batman series which Joel schumacher shat all over, then 10 years later someone came out and made a quality movie. No Spiderman 3 Despite what some think was actually a fairly decent film, its not as good as the second but it is still a good movie. Not to mention that it was only released 4 years ago. We don't need another spiderman adaptation, at least for another 10 years. its just like after Christopher Nolans batman Trilogy (im presuming it will be a trilogy) that there wont be another live action Batman flick for a while. So No to the Spiderman Reboot, but that Venom film looks decent. I wonder if Topher Grace will reprise the role.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useless Dave Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Spider-Man 3 came out barely 3 years ago, old chap. Not 4. I thought so too, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Garcia Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 So now sources are saying that in addition to the pressure to meet the May 6th, 2011 release date, Sam and co. bailed on Spidey 4 because of AVATAR. Yes, Avatar. Insiders say Sam saw the film and was so impressed, he wanted Columbia to cough up more dough for better CGI. But parent company Sony wasn't having it, felt it wasn't important for the franchise, and knowing the extra special effects would cost more money and more time, refused. And the final script, before another writer could come in to write another and the whole project was dumped, was f*cking lame. "Condensed, it went something like this: Peter Parker gets over MJ, finds a new girl, falls in love. But: Peter also discovers her father is actually the Vulture, a naughty green guy with wings to be played by John Malkovich. Peter is torn between the love of his new lady and taking down the Vulture. Being a Spandex tight-ass, he decides to take down the Vulture, and kills him. This patricide goes down poorly with Peter’s new fiancée, and she rejects him. Despondent, Peter decides to abandon his superpowers, and Movie No. 4 ends with Peter Parker throwing away his Spider-Man mask, and audiences wondering if they are watching Superman II." Source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Doesn't mention anything about realism there. How do you make a Spider-Man film realistic anyway? going a bit grittier could mean they're going for something more like the first two X-Men films, or Iron Man even. Unless he's running around in the black suit, Spider-Man stories usually aren't gritty. They're generally about his difficulty in juggling both lives, love etc. Not everything has to be in relation to The Dark Knight. Apart from the Joker's lines, the dialogue in TDK wasn't all that. That's the way I feel, and why I believe Spider-man has gone as far as he could, on film. The first and second movies pretty much captured Spider-man the way he should be. In the third one they tried to push a darker Spider-man, which didn't really capture the feeling of Spider-man, not even the black suit era. Unless, they decide to go back, and do Venom better I can't see a new Spider-man movie being any good. But even then, I think it's too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useless Dave Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Unless, they decide to go back, and do Venom better I can't see a new Spider-man movie being any good. But even then, I think it's too soon. I had thought about this. What if they realized what they did wrong with Venom, and made a Spider-Man movie with Carnage in it? That'd be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gta_king Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Being that they f*cked up so much with Venom they'd probably do the same with Carnage, they'd probably try to humanise it or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useless Dave Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Still, if they were to learn from past mistakes, I could see it working. It'd probably be the most violent Spider-Man yet, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 The new Spider-Man films should be like The Tick. Not taking this super hero thing too seriously, lots of humour, making it more shocking when the villains actually kill people. The tone should be deceptively light, to give the bad guys an extra edge when they commit their crimes. I mean, Spider-Man's attitude to it all can be seen as both a blessing and a curse. Sure, it's cool that he can joke in the most dangerous situations. But this fanciful attitude can lead to problems too, because he takes nothing seriously. You've just given amazing powers to an insecure teenage boy. There's bound to be problems, and a theme should be how his immaturity leads to his failings as a hero. He's not like Batman, he doesn't do measured things or have plans-on-top-of-plans. He often goes way too easy or way too far on criminals. Because he's just a kid underneath it all. Very interesting character, shame to see the old team go though. Can they at least keep JK Simmons? The guy is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanilla Shake Posted January 16, 2010 Author Share Posted January 16, 2010 I too think it's too soon to reboot everything, but I'd rather that than replace Tobey with another actor. It would be awesome if they did Venom properly, but still. Spider-Man 2 was phenomenal. 3 not so much but it had its moments. I'd say wait some time before making it, like they did when the rebooted the Batman franchise, though it can't be as gritty as the new Batman flicks. TC718 / <629 / CF5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodfella. Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 And the final script, before another writer could come in to write another and the whole project was dumped, was f*cking lame. "Condensed, it went something like this: Peter Parker gets over MJ, finds a new girl, falls in love. But: Peter also discovers her father is actually the Vulture, a naughty green guy with wings to be played by John Malkovich. Peter is torn between the love of his new lady and taking down the Vulture. Being a Spandex tight-ass, he decides to take down the Vulture, and kills him. This patricide goes down poorly with Peter’s new fiancée, and she rejects him. Despondent, Peter decides to abandon his superpowers, and Movie No. 4 ends with Peter Parker throwing away his Spider-Man mask, and audiences wondering if they are watching Superman II." Source. People are making up rumour's of a leaked script everywhere. The other one reported that Peter and MJ are married with child, and Adrian Toomes takes over the Daily Bugle. It sounded terrible too, but again there is no substance to the rumour. The fact that Kirsten Dunst was signed on for Spidey 4 surely debunks the idea of Pete finding a new girl? also there was the whole thread in 3 where Pete realises his attempt to kill Sandman was wrong, Aunt May saying "Spider-Man doesn't kill people". I think the theme of Spider-Man 4 should of been Peter focussed on what his responsibility is, and him trying to seek redemption for his actions in 3. There are some great scenes in the comic's that could of highlighted this. I remember one issue where Ock destroys the foundations of a building and Peter rushes around holding whatever he can with his webs, then is physically holding a pillar up whilst everyone evacuates, I'm pretty sure the building eventually crumbles on top of him and he has to crawl out of the rubble. That's one of my biggest dissapointments about 3, there was no grand scale of heroics such as the kids in the cable car in Spidey 1 or the train in Spidey 2. Another one of my favourite scene's from the comics is Peter climbing through his apartment window bloody and beaten and ends up passing out on his living room floor. He comes to with MJ cradling him and tending to his wounds because she's scared of taking him to the hospital due to people discovering his identity. If they wanted to make MJ something other than the damsel in distress that's what they should of done, make MJ Peter's only shelter against the sh*t storm, his rock. The thing that sets Peter apart is that he was the first loveable loser hero. The guy can barely pay his rent, can hardly keep a job, and is sh*t on constantly... but in the end he always puts the good fight first. A lot of people agree that DC heroes are the heroes you'd look up to, and Marvel heroes are the one's who're flawed, the one's you can relate to... I think Peter is the best example of that. I really hope they don't throw away the heart of the character in the reboot and try and make it some crime drama, that fits Batman, and that's fine. I've got my fingers crossed for Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanilla Shake Posted January 16, 2010 Author Share Posted January 16, 2010 I've got my fingers crossed for Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Seeing his performance in (500) Days of Summer proved to me that he can pull off playing an awkward, luckless, normal, everyday guy. Which is what I view Spider-Man as being: a normal guy with an incredible power. And he doesn't look that old, so I could see him playing Peter in high school. He'd have to bulk up a bit though. TC718 / <629 / CF5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtahumper Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 NAH..WE NEED THE BLACK CAT...WE NEED CARNAGE WE NEED THE HOBGOBLIN WE NEED BEN REILLY PETER PARKERS CLONE...SPIDERMAN IN HIGH SCHOOL WAS COVERED IN THE FIRST MOVIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanilla Shake Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 Marc Webb, the director of "(500) Days of Summer" (which starred Joseph Gordon-Levitt, the actor I hope they choose), has signed on to direct the next Spider-Man. A lot of people hate January, but Marc Webb probably thinks it's a great month. Last January, his feature debut, 500 Days of Summer, premiered to great acclaim at the Sundance Film Festival. And now, a year later (almost to the day), he's signed a deal with Columbia Pictures to direct the new Spider-Man film, as was rumored last week. What's more, while the press release from Columbia only mentions one film, New York Magazine's Vulture column says Webb's actually been contracted to do a whole new trilogy. Given that the studio wants the Spidey reboot to focus on Peter Parker's high school days, Webb is a good choice. (That's him in the picture, if you wondered what he looks like.) The Golden Globe-nominated 500 Days has a funny take on young angst, at once romantic, realistic, and fantastical -- all necessary elements in a good Spider-Man tale. 500 Days was his first feature film, but he's done award-winning music videos for such youth-friendly bands as Green Day, Weezer, My Chemical Romance, and All-American Rejects. The press release (which you can read here) doesn't give a title for the film, which has been written by James Vanderbilt, nor does it mention whether it will be in 3D, as has been rumored. All we have is a release date, sort of: summer 2012. Production will start later this year. What do you think? If you've seen 500 Days, do you think Webb will be a good fit? How many Spider-Man/Webb puns can you come up with? Link (500) Days was great, so signing him on has restored some of my faith. TC718 / <629 / CF5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Garcia Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Until I see some casting, I don't think this means much. Hope the dude delivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outcest Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 500 Days was his first feature film, but he's done award-winning music videos for such youth-friendly bands as Green Day, Weezer, My Chemical Romance, and All-American Rejects. underwhelming news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unvirginiser Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 I'm not feeling this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodfella. Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 This news gives me hope. The guy's got a good eye and handles romance well. I loved 500 Days of Summer, if Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character was bitten by a radioactive spider he'd be Peter Parker, pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtafan6453 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 This sucks , they need to keep the original cast , spidey just isn't spidey without tobey(sorry if i spelled his name wrong) if tobey's not in it i probably wont be bothered to watch it (not because im a fan of his movies which i am , im just used to seeing him as spidey and the spiderman movies wont be the same without him), i dont get why everyone hates spiderman3, i thought it was a really good movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Garcia Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 ‘Percy Jackson & The Olympians’ Star Logan Lerman In Talks For ‘Spider-Man’ Reboot LOS ANGELES, Calif. -- Logan Lerman, the star of “Percy Jackson & the Olympians: The Lightning Thief,” told Billy Bush for Access Hollywood and “The Billy Bush Show” that he is in talks with Sony to play Peter Parker in the “Spider-Man” reboot. “There have been a few discussions, it’s definitely something I’m looking into,” Logan told Billy on Thursday. The 18-year-old actor said he’s been a hardcore fan of the web-slinger for years. “It’s one of my favorite characters ever and I’m a huge fan of the series,” he continued. “I’d love to have more conversations about it. I’m definitely very interested in it.” The “Percy Jackson” star explained that the interest in him playing Spider-Man was “vice versa,” and that both he and the studio have expressed interest. But Logan noted that the talks with the studio are only in the preliminary stage. “It’s just, you know, conversations are starting. It’s a long process with the studio and the producers and everything. But it’s definitely a project that I’m really interested in, of course,” he told Billy. “I’d love to focus on the human element a little bit more. It’d be such a fun experience.” So, how would you feel if he got the job? I think he looks the role and his acting doesn't look too atrocious either, so I'd be cool with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanilla Shake Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 (edited) Wasn't he in Meet Bill? He was pretty cool in that. Still, I'm hoping for Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Unlikely, but I can hope. Also, Marc Webb has just finished directing the music video for "Last of the American Girls" by Green Day. Edited February 5, 2010 by Vanilla Shake TC718 / <629 / CF5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Garcia Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Yesterday, Ultimate Spider-Man (2000-present) comic-book writer Brian Michael Bendis tweeted the following: "Just spent a very interesting morning at Sony with the entire spidey movie team!! Very very cool stuff!!" Director Marc Webb has said that he loves the Ultimate Spider-Man comic books, and now it appears he and Sony Pictures are reaching out to Bendis for some advice. Bendis himself has won 5 Eisner awards in his life, and has written over 130 issues of Ultimate Spider-Man. So for you comic geeks, is this good? Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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