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spartant15

The Terminator Franchise

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This topic is for discussing the four movies and the franchise's future. Apparently, production on the fifth has been halted to due financial problems for the company. Halycron,the company who currently has the rights to the franchise, declared Chapter 11 bankruptcy in August. The company is considering selling it for 60 to 70 million dollars. An announcement for the franchise's fate will come soon, apparently January the 13th. What do think of this? Will or should Terminator 5 happen?

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darthYENIK

Sure. I liked Salvation, wasn't as good as the first two, but it definitely blew 3 out of the water.

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Guns N R0se
Sure. I liked Salvation, wasn't as good as the first two, but it definitely blew 3 out of the water.

This.

 

T2>T1>TS>T3

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WidowMaker

Salvation was God awful.

 

Take it out back and shoot it in the f*cking head.

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DareYokel
Salvation was God awful.

 

Take it out back and shoot it in the f*cking head.

Couldn't agree more. Also I loled biggrin.gif

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chennaz321

I see all of you putting T2 ahead of T1. I agree for the most part, but in my opinion T1 had more suspense and overall scariness(a word less used to describe the sequel).

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makeshyft

The first film was fantastic. It was a great standalone film. Then they brought out the second one, which f*cked around with the time loop, and it all went downhill from there.

 

Not to say the second film wasn't enjoyable... I just really like the first one for what it was.

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Andyzoot

Yeah the first was brilliant. Couldn't decide which one is my favourite between the first two. They're both excellent films. Didn't care much for the third one and the fourth one can suck my balls.

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Machida

I've just put on Salvation. The topic reminded me I had it sitting aside yet to watch.

 

f*cking diabolical. This level of tack works in something like an episode of Escape from New York, but this isn't even up to that calibre. I'm at the point where Conner has just pleaded with the resistance not to win the war at the stake of their humanity and I cant stick with it anymore, its going off. Terminator seems to have gotten so cheap and clean that it irks me.

 

3 was pants, but this one takes the hard baked sweet product.

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Exkabewbikadid

I'm sick of dis goddamn toyminata bullsh*t.

 

For me it would go T1>T2>>T4>T3 (where '>>' means 'much greater')

 

The last two were abysmal, especially T3, which seems to have been written by a bunch of enslaved adolescent chimps with severe ADHD problems. And it's ironic that T4 was named Salvation because they absolutely did not save an already mutilated plot line. I can appreciate that they focused on the future war rather than dicking about with anymore time travel, but it was still helplessly f*cked up, not to mention the acting and effects were quite bland.

 

So I'm actually relieved to see that the 5th one won't see the light of day anytime soon... at least until some other know-nothing jerk-off studio buys the franchise.

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WidowMaker
I see all of you putting T2 ahead of T1. I agree for the most part, but in my opinion T1 had more suspense and overall scariness(a word less used to describe the sequel).

Probably because they took a horror movie and turned it into one of the greatest action movies of all time...

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Mister Pink

I was 6 or 7 maybe even 8 when I first saw T2. I was blown away. I had seen parts of had seen most of T1 but I was too young to fully appreciatee whats going on, on a grander scale. I was extremely confused as to why Arnie was a good guy now and not the 'bad' guy.

 

I grew up and watched bot films again. T2 stands out as I had the first proper introduction to the Terminator series with this flick. I compared all other Terminators to T2. Then, as I got more mature with a better appreciation for film, I realised just how much of a f*cking gem Termintor 1 is. Obviously without 1 you would have 2 either. For an independent film made on €6m, it punch way above its weight.

 

Also the game for the Sega Megadrive. I used to love that game. Anyone remember playing it?

 

Gone off topic there a little, sorry. Anyway this could be good news. Maybe the next writers (if there is) will keep it real, old-skool, eerie and even spook you out a little that this could really happen.

 

I think something that was so charming about T1 and T2 was watching humans not believing in 'The Machines' like the psychiatrist dude for Sarah Connor. Then bam. Also John Connor and Arnie in the parking lot and John realises that Terminator must do what John says. Fun, humours things like that whithinm the drama and seriousness of it all.

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Slamman

I was FROZEN today as well...

There have been a few threads, it's hard to go beyond what Mr. James Cameron and staff (crew and stars) have created, the best movie of 1984, I saw it in the theater more then once, I made renderings as a fan, I was quite taken with the first two, even enjoying the third one, but after the TV series, I couldn't keep up, it also still felt disconnected from the original thread. It's better to not explore every facet of it, but on the other token, it's an amazing story that allows possible exploration, how to go about it, and how much is too much, or not even handled well in execution can bring it down and make it fail.

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spartant15

I agree with the popular thought on Terminator 3. It did suck. And Salvation, seemed to unrealistic to me. By that, I mean that there really wasn't a bad guy who was intimidating. Skynet was just a name. And for a post nuclear war set world, people seem to get good dental care.

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Slamman

Disappointed, but I don't think it sucked, quite frankly. I love the first two films, they are near perfection as far as I'm concerned. I wonder though, what are opinions on the released DELETED scenes from T1? I suppose few if any recall that film in 1984?

 

Did you see the then current TV review I put on YouTube for the first film??

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Mister Pink

OK, I just watched Salvation there for the first time. It was OK. I did enjoy some things about it. Mainly watching the T-600's/800's as I just absolutely love them since I was about 9.

 

I also loved the T-800's (or Arnolds Schwarzenegger's model) appearance.

 

I really enjoyed to see the young Kyle Reese and how became what he was and how he earned his jacket or even how he got that cool jacket he had in T1.

 

It's kinda cool the way the time in Salvation is before Reese is sent back in time to 1984.

 

It will be interesting to see where they will go in the next film. I think it's 2029 where they actually win the war against the machines so I'm presuming they do the final fight against Skynet and then do a other preequel to that or.. I dunno. Just have to wait and see.

 

EDIT: On the downside, there's a lot of bad cheesy lines in it. Not good cheesy lines but bad ones where they're trying to be serious but it comes off terrible.

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makeshyft
I really enjoyed to see the young Kyle Reese and how became what he was and how he earned his jacket or even how he got that cool jacket he had in T1.

I haven't seen it, so I might be missing something... but Reese arrived in 1984 naked.

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Mister Pink

 

I really enjoyed to see the young Kyle Reese and how became what he was and how he earned his jacket or even how he got that cool jacket he had in T1.

I haven't seen it, so I might be missing something... but Reese arrived in 1984 naked.

Edit: Oh yeah. I forgot about that. Well, his jacket looks awfully like the ones The Resistance wear. Lol. It;s late, I need sleep.

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Don Garcia

Yeah, Reese got that jacket and his dope Nike's from a clothes store to, ya know, blend in. Naked men stand out like a muthafukker.

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Mister Pink
Yeah, Reese got that jacket and his dope Nike's from a clothes store to, ya know, blend in. Naked men stand out like a muthafukker.

Yeah I think he chose something that reminded him of home tounge.gif

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Otter

Terminator Salvation was so bad that it actually made Terminator 3 seem like a decent film. And let's face it - Terminator three was an epic piece of sh*t.

 

I love Terminator 2. And The Terminator is a very close second. "f*ck You, Asshole." Best line a robot has ever uttered in cinema.

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Arrows to Athens

Skydance Productions confirmed in September 2013 that Terminator Genisys was intended to be the first film in a new stand-alone trilogy. Matt Smith's character, the T-5000, was set to appear in all three films of the new series. In September 2014, Paramount Pictures scheduled the release dates of May 19, 2017 and June 29, 2018 for the sequels to Genisys. However, on January 20, 2017, Deadline Hollywood reported that James Cameron, who will regain the film rights to the franchise in 2019, will produce the next Terminator film, which is set to reboot and conclude the franchise. Skydance's David Ellison continues to be involved and is searching for a writer among science fiction authors with the intention that Tim Miller directs it. The author of the article describes the film as a reboot, suggesting that the Terminator Genisys storyline has been discarded (thank God). Arnold Schwarzenegger confirmed that he will return in the film, and that James Cameron will be integral in developing the future of the franchise. On September 19, 2017, during the question and answer session after a special screening of Terminator 2: Judgment Day 3D, James Cameron officially announced that Linda Hamilton will return to the series to reprise her role as Sarah Connor. Jude Collie has also been cast as the CGI stand-in for a young John Connor, while Brett Azar reprises his role from Genisys as the CGI stand-in for a younger T-800. The new film will be going back to the original roots and will provide the continuation of what fans really wanted since T2.

 

The film will be the sixth installment in the franchise and will serve as a direct sequel to Terminator 2: Judgement Day, retconning the previous three films out of existence, regarding them as alternate timelines. This new film will mark a new trilogy.

 

The untitled sequel is scheduled to release by Paramount Pictures and 20th Century Fox on November 22, 2019. The film previously had a set release date of July 26, 2019.

 

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Pictures of Linda Hamilton as Sarah Connor on the set of the new Terminator:

 

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I'm so excited!

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darthYENIK

I just merged it.

 

They can never recapture the greatness of T2.  Genisys or however it’s spelled was a farce.  It wasn’t a bad movie, it just shat all over the first two movies which are classics.  No one wants that.  We want a continuation that honors the canon, and expands on it.  Is that possible? Maybe.  I’m not creative enough to figure out how to do that.

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DareYokel
1 hour ago, darthYENIK said:

They can never recapture the greatness of T2.

It's the greatest action movie of all time IMO. There was no point in making the third one, let alone all the others that came after.

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Queen

Wow, Linda Hamilton looks pretty good for someone in her early 60s. 

 

Great news overall. I was sorely disappointed by the three sequels after T2. So to hear this next film will pick up after T2 is very exciting! But I'll be very surprised if this new film does well. I have lost my faith in this franchise. Genesys was the final straw. What a sh*t movie.

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Arrows to Athens
On 7/5/2018 at 2:46 PM, Queen said:

Wow, Linda Hamilton looks pretty good for someone in her early 60s. 

 

Great news overall. I was sorely disappointed by the three sequels after T2. So to hear this next film will pick up after T2 is very exciting! But I'll be very surprised if this new film does well. I have lost my faith in this franchise. Genesys was the final straw. What a sh*t movie.

Yeah, they're basically pulling a H20 with this one. Halloween H20, which was the seventh installment in the Halloween franchise, disregarded the previous three films as non-canon and was instead a sequel to Halloween II.

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Lock n' Stock
On 7/5/2018 at 6:56 AM, Darth Yokel said:

It's the greatest action movie of all time IMO. There was no point in making the third one, let alone all the others that came after.

This x10, though Die Hard and Hard Boiled do come close for me as well. Personally for me, the series should have ended there. There just wasn't anywhere to go after that, as much as I liked parts of Terminator 3.

 

Never bothered with Genisys, though this one being set after T2 and bringing Linda Hamilton back (as well as Cameron being a producer) does sound somewhat promising. I'm not holding massive hopes out, but we'll see.

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Mister Pink

A sequel to Terminator 2 produced by Cameron? This sounds amazing!

 

I just want the atmosphere of the first two. The first one was a kind of suspense-horror-thriller film. It mostly focusses on the human side. The side in which the thought of time travel and robots is absurd. Then T2, we have a more action-orientated but it still has that spooky element of the man/machine relationship. We get to see the Terminator being revealed to unsuspecting people throughout the film and we, the audience is accustomed to as we've all ready suspended our disbelief, but it's always fun watching other people react to the machine in different scenarios over and over again. Like how Terminator f*cks that whole bar up butt-naked, or when young John Connor discovers Terminator is under his command and will do anything he literally says. Or when the psychologist realizes that Sarah wasn't mental after all.  All this offered sprinkles of awe and humour along with the fear and anxiety of a machine and what it could do to people if we left technology run wild. 

 

I don't know. The Terminator was one of those fantastical sci-fi films that just felt somewhat plausible to me. And those interactions with the Terminator that people have, like the punks in the car park that try to help Connor when they think he's in trouble just show us the human side of people and how we're complex and how it's can be really hard to teach an android/cyborg the intricacies of human emotion. Why we cry etc and why violence is OK sometimes and other times it's not. Pain and emapthy. 

 

T2 for all it's action and baddassery, it had these awesome little journeys that the viewer is in on and watching people discover that the Terminator is a real thing was great. It also tapped into what makes us human, also the morals surround use of technology. It's a perfect film. None of the films after two seemed to grasp some of the basic concepts of the first two. They understood the visuals and the action but they didn't quite seem to grasp the heart of T2 and what gives its special atmosphere. 

 

I think this what Cameron understands is hoping to claim it back. 

 

 

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Lock n' Stock
6 hours ago, Mister Pink said:

A sequel to Terminator 2 produced by Cameron? This sounds amazing!

 

I just want the atmosphere of the first two. The first one was a kind of suspense-horror-thriller film. It mostly focusses on the human side. The side in which the thought of time travel and robots is absurd. Then T2, we have a more action-orientated but it still has that spooky element of the man/machine relationship. We get to see the Terminator being revealed to unsuspecting people throughout the film and we, the audience is accustomed to as we've all ready suspended our disbelief, but it's always fun watching other people react to the machine in different scenarios over and over again. Like how Terminator f*cks that whole bar up butt-naked, or when young John Connor discovers Terminator is under his command and will do anything he literally says. Or when the psychologist realizes that Sarah wasn't mental after all.  All this offered sprinkles of awe and humour along with the fear and anxiety of a machine and what it could do to people if we left technology run wild. 

 

I don't know. The Terminator was one of those fantastical sci-fi films that just felt somewhat plausible to me. And those interactions with the Terminator that people have, like the punks in the car park that try to help Connor when they think he's in trouble just show us the human side of people and how we're complex and how it's can be really hard to teach an android/cyborg the intricacies of human emotion. Why we cry etc and why violence is OK sometimes and other times it's not. Pain and emapthy. 

 

T2 for all it's action and baddassery, it had these awesome little journeys that the viewer is in on and watching people discover that the Terminator is a real thing was great. It also tapped into what makes us human, also the morals surround use of technology. It's a perfect film. None of the films after two seemed to grasp some of the basic concepts of the first two. They understood the visuals and the action but they didn't quite seem to grasp the heart of T2 and what gives its special atmosphere. 

 

I think this what Cameron understands is hoping to claim it back. 

 

 

Seriously, T2 is just such a f*cking badass film in every way, there's very few thrillrides out there like it imo. The original is brilliant as well, for different reasons of course.

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Star-Lord

Yes Cameron is back! This ought to be an interesting film when completed, can't wait.

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