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^^^ I agree, this episode was supposed to be about the nightlife. Instead, you do about 3 or 4 missions about nightlife, and the next thing you know you're parachuting off the empire state building.

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Planes....Flyable Planes.

stilll an issue with 9-11

I think 9-11 has absolutely nothing to do with it. You can grab a helicopter, and crash it into a building if you want to. Sure it's not using planes, but still replicates the circumstances surrounding 9-11.

 

Infact there are many ways to act like a terrorist. Planes not being in GTAIV, TLAD, and TBOGT has nothing to do with 9-11 IMO.

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Planes....Flyable Planes.

stilll an issue with 9-11

No, that's not the problem. The reasons they were left out of IV is because while GTA San Andreas is a combined 4 decent sized cities each having their own airport, GTA IV's Liberty City is one giant city, therefore only 1 airport. And since planes can't land on building's because they cannot land vertically, the only place they could land safely is that airport or possibly a large stretch of freeway/street, but the chances of not hitting a car or similar obstacle is very low. This makes helicopters superior over airplanes, making planes near pointless (IMO).

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Algonquin Assassin

 

Planes....Flyable Planes.

stilll an issue with 9-11

No, that's not the problem. The reasons they were left out of IV is because while GTA San Andreas is a combined 4 decent sized cities each having their own airport, GTA IV's Liberty City is one giant city, therefore only 1 airport. And since planes can't land on building's because they cannot land vertically, the only place they could land safely is that airport or possibly a large stretch of freeway/street, but the chances of not hitting a car or similar obstacle is very low. This makes helicopters superior over airplanes, making planes near pointless (IMO).

I agree, but I reckon there still should've been atleast a seaplane.

 

Helicopters seem to make more sense in a metropolis like Liberty Citry than planes anyway.

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- being able to shoot while parachuting down would of been nice ( i hate being vulnerble in free mode )

 

- upgradable nitrous ( like health or armour as a pick up but for your car )

 

- beginning cutscense with the replay mission option

 

- more closure* the end opened more Questions then it answered

 

 

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Planes....Flyable Planes.

stilll an issue with 9-11

No, that's not the problem. The reasons they were left out of IV is because while GTA San Andreas is a combined 4 decent sized cities each having their own airport, GTA IV's Liberty City is one giant city, therefore only 1 airport. And since planes can't land on building's because they cannot land vertically, the only place they could land safely is that airport or possibly a large stretch of freeway/street, but the chances of not hitting a car or similar obstacle is very low. This makes helicopters superior over airplanes, making planes near pointless (IMO).

That was just an excuse because they don't want to admit it's because of 9/11.

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^^^ I agree, this episode was supposed to be about the nightlife. Instead, you do about 3 or 4 missions about nightlife, and the next thing you know you're parachuting off the empire state building.

Exactly bro! Having different nightclubs spread around at least Algonquin wouldve made it seem much cooler. I was dissapointed just to hear that there were only 3 nightclubss. think of how dissapointed I was to hear about bahama mamas. Especially since I love the music in there. but yeah, more missions involving nightlife as well. like if you think about it, some of the missions where you had to wait til nightime to do them at maisonete for Tony. There's really no point. The moment you get there all you do is talk to Tony for a second, then LEAVE THE CLUB. WTF? my ranting is done lol.

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What would you really rather do in a video game, stand around in a club or parachute off a building?

 

Yeah.

 

Sure, you can stand around in a club whenever you're not in a mission but when I have a task I'd rather it be action packed and awesome.

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Planes....Flyable Planes.

stilll an issue with 9-11

No, that's not the problem. The reasons they were left out of IV is because while GTA San Andreas is a combined 4 decent sized cities each having their own airport, GTA IV's Liberty City is one giant city, therefore only 1 airport. And since planes can't land on building's because they cannot land vertically, the only place they could land safely is that airport or possibly a large stretch of freeway/street, but the chances of not hitting a car or similar obstacle is very low. This makes helicopters superior over airplanes, making planes near pointless (IMO).

That was just an excuse because they don't want to admit it's because of 9/11.

You're all wrong.

 

9/11 is the least of threats against rockstar, they deal with terrorist jokes all through IV, it is Pathetic to think they are scared.

 

The TRUTH is that if you were going to get Airplanes, you would still be waiting to play the game. They weren't going to nex-gen everything "except" the planes, and they just didn't have time to finish what we DID get, let alone enough time to do airplanes. The delay is one of the things that prove it.

 

Liberty is INTENTIONALLY too small for planes because so is the development time. it INTENTIONALLY is made to make planes not make sense so that it can be time better spent developing the core. III, VC, SA is an excellent example.

 

Just like you do not get SA WITHOUT LC and VC First, you would have NEVER played GTA SA without the arguably "lesser" III and VC providing what they did to SA, under what SA brought to the table.

 

Planes in GTA IV = You would Still be waiting to play this game UNTIL the IV game that does have planes, basically.

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Aussiedesperado

i gotta agree with Super. 9/11? Futu i thought u was an aussie? We dont give 2 sh*ts about terrorists cozz who the f*ck would want to bomb AUS? So why would u of all people think it was coz of 9/11. There are many examples of terrorist jokes in GTAIV. For example Weazel news makes allot of jokes about how the bridges are blocked etc etc etc...

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I don't give two sh*ts about 9/11, but planes aren't in IV because they were afraid Americans would get a hair up their ass as they always do.

Though not just Americans, people in general.

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Okay, here go my nit pickings. I suggest everyone read because I am obviously a L33T game developer in disguise and therefore pwn that fat guy with the beard.

 

- Better cheats: honestly, who uses Super Punches for more than a single chuckle? We should've had invincibility, riot mode, and never wanted at the bare minimum. These would've added SO much more replayability to the game it's not even funny. I don't know what R* was thinking not including them.

 

- A Straight Storyline: one of the things I feel GTA and a lot of video games don't know how to do is make a straight storyline that's reasonable and makes sense. Yusuf is a funny guy, but his missions should've just been side missions. I'm really getting sick of "find this guy's dog and he'll think about telling you where to go next" missions.

 

- More Devastating Weapons: yeah I know you guys are sick of hearing about what guns I wanted in BoGT, but I feel like the current ones don't cut it. The AA-12 should fire faster, the new sniper rifle should've been packed more of a punch, the silencer on the P90 should've worked (even though it wouldn't in real life), the C4 shouldn't cause a mass panic when it's being detonated a mile away, and the MG should've had better accuracy at the cost of only having 75 or 100 rounds in a box.... and we should've had a .50 Cal... I'm just saying...

 

- Vehicle Improvements: honestly the only vehicle I find fun to use (for about 10 minutes before I get blown to hell by the FIB) is the APC. I mean with the Buzzard's crappy "drop 50 feet to shoot something below you" targeting is ridiculous. If the camera can lock on... why can't the weapons? At least make them a little less accurate for balance issues but still... did no one think of this? Next issue with the vehicles, no Rhino, we've been over that, would've been nice, too bad so sad etc. No skyhook? That's like not being able to dual wield in Halo 2 after watching Master Chief kick ass with two SMGs in an E3 trailer. Big "wahhhh" to Rockstar.

 

 

/constructive 'I should have your job' criticism biggrin.gif

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Planes....Flyable Planes.

stilll an issue with 9-11

I'm not sure that's a valid reason. If the 'war on terror' issue was the reason for excluding planes + skyscrapers then we'd also be prevented from loading a truck with explosives and parking it in a police station car park.

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Planes....Flyable Planes.

stilll an issue with 9-11

I'm not sure that's a valid reason. If the 'war on terror' issue was the reason for excluding planes + skyscrapers then we'd also be prevented from loading a truck with explosives and parking it in a police station car park.

Since when has that happened recently in the real world?

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Aussiedesperado

I dont understand why everyone is whinning about the new guns. They seem sweet. Atleast they arnt the same old same old borring collection Niko has...

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FuturamaFreak: It's not because of 9/11. Get over it.

 

Aussie: I don't think those guns are boring... confused.gif

The guns in IV are just nothing new...in BOGT you have guns that havent been in GTA b4.

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anybody who says that they left out planes because 9/11 is dumb as f*ck

i love the weapons; maybe even better than nikos collection (even though you can get nikos collection)

i do hate that they still left out the rhino

 

 

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Algonquin Assassin

 

I don't give two sh*ts about 9/11, but planes aren't in IV because they were afraid Americans would get a hair up their ass as they always do.

Though not just Americans, people in general.

Did they get their hair up with planes being in SA? Sure it wasn't based on NYC, but you could still grab a passenger jet, and fly it into a building. Besides the twin towers aren't even in GTA IV, so even if people did get their hair up with planes being in GTA IV it wouldn't have been alot different to them being in SA.

 

IMO it was more a convenience reason than anything to do with 9-11.

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hell, san andreas had the twin towers!

look it up online

i remember when i first got it thinking that it was actually based in NY or a recreation of LC because of the tall buildings in las santos and the "twin towers" too.

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hell, san andreas had the twin towers!

look it up online

i remember when i first got it thinking that it was actually based in NY or a recreation of LC because of the tall buildings in las santos and the "twin towers" too.

Now whose

"dumb as f*ck"

 

San Andreas has absolutely nothing to do with new york, I have no bloody idea what you're talking about.

Los Santos and it's "Tall Buildings" are based on Los Angeles and it's "Tall Buildings".

 

Note: I'm not personally attacking you.

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I dont know why everyone is so senceitive about 9/11. An Aussie show called the Chassers went to america and they asked New Yorkers in the street when and where 9/11 was. You would be surprised at how many answers they got. "It was innn Dallas wan it?"

"Was is in August?"

 

 

Duhhhhhhhhhhh.............

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Oh, now as we're talking about features, anyone else with the feeling of better physics in BoGT than Vanilla IV?

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i havent got BOGT so i wouldnt know about the physics. (Im only commenting on what iv seen on vids).

 

One of the most disapointing thing iv seen is the fact that the game was supost to be centred around liberty city's night life yet there was only 3 clubs! WTF. They should have atleast opened Club Liberty in Northwood.

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