ckasper502 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 ok in TBoGT you pick up a french man ( cant remember his name ) but he talks about turning this girl into a drug addicted whore - and I remember meeting ( this drug addicted whore ) girl named marni as a random character - could this be the same girl Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpetDweller Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I thought it was the guy from the early mission in the sex shop that had "corrupted" Marni. I'm saying this based only on memory, so I could be way off. I think the french guy is into lots of crazy stuff, but I got the impression that everyone involved enjoyed themselves. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/?do=findComment&comment=1059673922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreyGhost Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 No. Marnie is encountered before you meet the Frenchman in terms of story time line. It is never established who exactly gets Marnie into the life she is involved in. The most she does is imply that it happened quickly after coming to Liberty City, as she states they get young women as they get off the bus. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/?do=findComment&comment=1059674338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamalG Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 no, the man who turned Marnie into drug addict (and made her star into porn movies) was Joseph Kaplan - the czech immigrant who owns the sex shop in Hove Beach.. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/?do=findComment&comment=1059674346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugorohden Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Joseph Kaplan A good man! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/?do=findComment&comment=1059674615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreyGhost Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 no, the man who turned Marnie into drug addict (and made her star into porn movies) was Joseph Kaplan - the czech immigrant who owns the sex shop in Hove Beach.. When did they say this in the game? I don't remember them ever saying it... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/?do=findComment&comment=1059677534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuyWhoAlwaysShoutsMyLEG Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I might know what you are talking about.... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/?do=findComment&comment=1059679287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancet Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 no, the man who turned Marnie into drug addict (and made her star into porn movies) was Joseph Kaplan - the czech immigrant who owns the sex shop in Hove Beach.. When did they say this in the game? I don't remember them ever saying it... Same - I never remember that sex shop guy being the one who got to Marnie. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/?do=findComment&comment=1059679336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonp92 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 no, the man who turned Marnie into drug addict (and made her star into porn movies) was Joseph Kaplan - the czech immigrant who owns the sex shop in Hove Beach.. When did they say this in the game? I don't remember them ever saying it... Same - I never remember that sex shop guy being the one who got to Marnie. Well, we dont know for sure. But since Kaplan is the only one mentioned in IV who makes porn, it seems at most people think it was him who got Marni to become a drug addict. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/?do=findComment&comment=1059679421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreyGhost Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 no, the man who turned Marnie into drug addict (and made her star into porn movies) was Joseph Kaplan - the czech immigrant who owns the sex shop in Hove Beach.. When did they say this in the game? I don't remember them ever saying it... Same - I never remember that sex shop guy being the one who got to Marnie. Well, we dont know for sure. But since Kaplan is the only one mentioned in IV who makes porn, it seems at most people think it was him who got Marni to become a drug addict. That's a really ignorant thing to say than. It's fine if people believe he did it, but people shouldn't say it like it is fact when there is no proof. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/?do=findComment&comment=1059680359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddsock Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Whoa GreyGhost, calm the f*ck down. It's not an ignorant thing to say, he's just making a conjecture. Nothing to call him ignorant for. I might as well believe it, who else do we have to blame for Marnie's condition? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/?do=findComment&comment=1059680465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox_Xalian Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 check the LCPD database they are both there, Marni and Joseph, and their names are listed in each others LCPD dossiers. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/?do=findComment&comment=1059680530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreyGhost Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 check the LCPD database they are both there, Marni and Joseph, and their names are listed in each others LCPD dossiers. If that is the case then I stand corrected. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/?do=findComment&comment=1059680617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonp92 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 check the LCPD database they are both there, Marni and Joseph, and their names are listed in each others LCPD dossiers. If that is the case then I stand corrected. Well it dosent matter, im sure your heart was in the right place. Joseph Kaplan is a 41 year old Czech Immigrant living in Hove Beach, Broker, Liberty City in the GTA IV era. He is a known associate of Mikhail Faustin and other Russian criminals in the area. Although he has only one conviction (in 2003 for sexual assault) he is suspected by police of running a prostitution ring in a Hove Beach Sex Shop and also making low budget pornographic movies in it's basement. Several young women have filed reports against Kaplan, including Prostitute Marnie Allen, claiming that they were conned into appearing in his films. http://gta.wikia.com/Joseph_Kaplan Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/?do=findComment&comment=1059680811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The N. Bellic Man Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 (edited) who else do we have to blame for Marnie's condition? Her. I mean not every young drug addict is an innocent victim. Not saying that it's only their fault, but come on. And it's also rare (in western countries) that someone forces you to act in porn flicks/pictures etc. Edited December 12, 2009 by The N. Bellic Man Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/?do=findComment&comment=1059681167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddsock Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 who else do we have to blame for Marnie's condition? Her. I mean not every young drug addict is an innocent victim. Not saying that it's only their fault, but come on. And it's also rare (in western countries) that someone forces you to act in porn flicks/pictures etc. You'd be surprised. I'd agree that it could have been her IF it wasn't already known that someone[/b] forced her into drugs and prostitution/pornography. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/?do=findComment&comment=1059681202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The N. Bellic Man Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 (edited) You'd be surprised. No, I wouldn't. But there is almost always other chances to make make money (legal or not). And if your situation is a desperate one you can try to kill that motherf*cker that is trying to make you things you don't wanna do or convince (if your are at least a bit attractive) someone else to do it. Sad but true. Edited December 12, 2009 by The N. Bellic Man Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434804-marni-allen/?do=findComment&comment=1059682367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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