Mysterious2k9 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Okay.. I've about had it with this crashing. I've tried everything, and it still happens, infact I've been trying for over 8 months now, even bought a new computer! There doesn't seem to be a trigger to this crash, it just crashes when it wants to. Sometimes I don't even make it out of the safehouse! Other times I could play for an hour, sometimes 10 - 20 minutes... well, you get the picture. And I will be doing different things every time this crash occurs, this makes it hard to find out what the problem is. I have all the latest drivers/patches/updates/everything. I should also mention that a recent driver from ATI messed up my computer! GTA IV now lags like a constipated person trying to take a dump. Just so people don't give me solutions I've already heard, this is what I have tried: -memrestrict command line (with NO other command lines) xLiveless.dll -nomemrestrict command line (with no other command lines) Windows Vista - Ultimate (SP1) / Windows XP - Professional (SP3) : (both 32-bit) Running as admin (Windows Vista) And my computer specs: ATI Radeon 4670 HD w/ 512 MB of vRAM 2 GB of RAM AMD Phenom II X3 710 Processor @ 2.6 GHz Currently on Windows XP - Professional (SP3) I've tried tweaking the grapics to the lowest possible settings, and the highest possible settings that my computer can handle, same problem. One thing I sometimes notice right before it crashes is the game will quickly lag for a second, then things stop working.. like the graphics stop streaming, peds don't move, etc. Then when I move into the areas where the graphics weren't loaded it crashes. That's happened a couple of times, too. But most of the time it's a random crash. :S I really hope someone can help me here.. the GTA series is one of the very few games that I actually buy, but I must say I'm really dissapointed this time. Can't wait to see what a fail Red Dead Redemption is going to be. >.> Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434801-constant-crashingproblems/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 (edited) I'm just wondering, can you see this Remove the latest GPU driver and install an older one, I suggest 9.8 or 9.6 (guide on the subject in the FAQ). Have you defragged the drive? Edited December 7, 2009 by mkey82 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434801-constant-crashingproblems/?do=findComment&comment=1059673740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2k9 Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 Yes, I've defragged the drive, did it right after I installed IV, once again after that, and again after I REinstalled IV. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434801-constant-crashingproblems/?do=findComment&comment=1059673745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exkabewbikadid Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Moved to troubleshooting... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434801-constant-crashingproblems/?do=findComment&comment=1059673746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I'm guessing RAM is your issue, 2GB is very low for GTAIV. Try using cleanmem, again, guide in the FAQ. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434801-constant-crashingproblems/?do=findComment&comment=1059673754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2k9 Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 Gah, I guess I missed a few things.. I've tried that too, it made it worse, you could tell instantly when it refreshed my memory, the game started running really bad =\ Well if it comes down to a hardware problem, then f**k GTA and R*, I'm not wasting more hard earned dollars for this. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434801-constant-crashingproblems/?do=findComment&comment=1059673763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Vista + GTAIV + 2GB RAM = bad mix. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434801-constant-crashingproblems/?do=findComment&comment=1059673781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioman Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Your specs are not that bad, if you just add another 1GB stick of RAM-(it will cost you around $19.82 at Wal-Mart), you should be able to run the game (at least on low settings with no to little lag.) RAM upgrades are pretty much the cheapest upgrades you can do to a PC, so that should be the first thing you try. Plus, if you have Vista 32-bit, you can go up to 4GB RAM, whereas with XP 32-bit, the max it will recognize is 3GB. Just a heads up. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434801-constant-crashingproblems/?do=findComment&comment=1059673790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Plus, if you have Vista 32-bit, you can go up to 4GB RAM, whereas with XP 32-bit, the max it will recognize is 3GB. Just a heads up. ... what? 32 bit OS can address only 4GB RAM, this includes VRAM and other ranges reserved by the system. 32 GB Vista may *recognize* that you have $GB RAM installed, but it will not be using it all. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434801-constant-crashingproblems/?do=findComment&comment=1059673829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamjam1000 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 (edited) I have had the same problems, such as crashing to black screen. Unfortunatley nobody gave me a decent answer because someone moved my thread so it couldn't be commented on anymore. My game has only just started locking up, and the only changes I have made are through mods and commmand lines. Try reinstalling the game and deleting all commandlines. I would do it as well except I can't install GTA on my disk drive, I have to borrow someone elses (I always get a data2.cab error during installation). For me, cleanmem did not work either. *Edit: can people please stop telling those with problems to buy new hardware. It's plainly obvious you have no idea what the problem is, but you act like you know and then tell someone to waste hundreds of dollars on a new rig when the problem has nothing to do with hardware. Edited December 7, 2009 by jamjam1000 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434801-constant-crashingproblems/?do=findComment&comment=1059673865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2k9 Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 Thanks for the info, jamjam. I do remember using those command lines instantly after I installed IV, as I was using them on Vista before I got XP. (It was slightly improving my performance on Vista, but I noticed I don't really need them on XP) Anyway, I'll try that tomorrow and see how it goes. It's getting late here. peace PS: Going back to the 9.8 driver solved the lag problems, thanks. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434801-constant-crashingproblems/?do=findComment&comment=1059673932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDBexley Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Just before I try that xliveless thing by putting the .dll file in to the game folder, I notice it says to "remove the asi loader if there is one" Don't really know what and asi loader is so if someone could help me identify if I have one and how to remove it that'd be great!! Cheers Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434801-constant-crashingproblems/?do=findComment&comment=1059673937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 If you don't know whether you have it, you don't have it. jamjam1000, your thread has been moved where it's supposed to be http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=434287 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434801-constant-crashingproblems/?do=findComment&comment=1059673938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDBexley Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 If you don't know whether you have it, you don't have it. Sounds simple enough Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434801-constant-crashingproblems/?do=findComment&comment=1059673940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 It can't possibly get any simpler xD Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434801-constant-crashingproblems/?do=findComment&comment=1059673942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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