IWANT2MODCARS Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 (edited) Ok, so lets start it out. My PC's ATI Radeon 4800's Advanced/ATI Overdrive tab reads a temp of 84 to 88 degrees Celcius. And I am a bit concerned as in Fareheit that is up to about 200 degrees. And my thoughts are: "How in the hell is it still running?!" Also, speaking of Temps, my CPU also gets to a peak 65 Degrees Celcius. And before anyone asks, YES, I am sure it is not Farenheit. ATI Overdrive is turned OFF, and weekly I sometimes use SpeedFan. And I am still unaware of a solution to this problem. About a month ago, maybe earlier, My desk fan burned out. Which was below my PC desk blowing on medium to high on the side of my computer, keeping as cool as 80-81 degrees. A whole 5 degrees cooler, Whoopie. I am still searching for some answers and since I have a GTAF account, and there is a Tech/PC Chat Forum, I decided to talk about it here. --Anyone with information regaurding my PC's temperature, Please contact me by using the formmailer, PM'er, or simply replying to this thread. [Forum Note: I will not post my Email on this thread to prevent spam and/or malicious use.] IMPORTANT: To prevent malicious use, all emails sent via the formmailer are logged and the contents recorded and available to the administrators. DO NOT email user names, passwords or any personal details. Edited December 5, 2009 by IWANT2MODCARS Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star-Lord Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Dude, on idle that's way too high. Use something like rivaturner and increase your fan to at least 50% of whatever you have it set on, and see if the temps drop. You might also want to install a couple intake/exhaust fans and get the hot air out of the case. For the meantime remove the side panel so the air can circulate. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/?do=findComment&comment=1059671294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pico Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 That's way too high for idle, for sure. But it's not enough to immediately kill the card. It usually takes around 220*F to do that, I believe. But idling or running for any length of time at that temperature can severely damage the card, that's for sure. As pcguytech was going at, how is your computer cooling? Any fans at all? Intake in the front, exhaust out the back? Does the card itself have a fan? Any components or wires blocking airflow to it? Pop open that case and find out. Also, it could just be incredibly dirty. You might just need to clean off some fans. Fyi, my HD4850 runs at 77*C at idle, but doesn't jump much over when is use. It's still high for idle. It's because I've got a VisionTek one, and it's only a single slot card, meaning a tiny little thin heatsink and fan on it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/?do=findComment&comment=1059671342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWANT2MODCARS Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 That's way too high for idle, for sure. But it's not enough to immediately kill the card. It usually takes around 220*F to do that, I believe. But idling or running for any length of time at that temperature can severely damage the card, that's for sure. As pcguytech was going at, how is your computer cooling? Any fans at all? Intake in the front, exhaust out the back? Does the card itself have a fan? Any components or wires blocking airflow to it? Pop open that case and find out. Also, it could just be incredibly dirty. You might just need to clean off some fans. Fyi, my HD4850 runs at 77*C at idle, but doesn't jump much over when is use. It's still high for idle. It's because I've got a VisionTek one, and it's only a single slot card, meaning a tiny little thin heatsink and fan on it. I have 7 fans total on my PC, 2 on the side, (1 Cpu vent to vent CPU fan out side, and a chassis fan on the side to help keep it cool.) CPU fan is an Intel QST or something like that I believe. one for the back to suck/blow air, a small little fan on the BOTTOM of my GPU, which is very strange for a GPU that heats up to 82 Celcius by itself, when I'm even doing NOTHING AT ALL. And I have this FAT tube leading from chassis/outside to the CPU fan, possibly preventing/blocking heat flow from GPU to fan ports/vents. I really should get that removed with a screwdriver. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/?do=findComment&comment=1059679794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 More fans, more pwr drain, but you should have a cooler runner at any rate. I have two on a case at most, one on Psu, sometimes on a GPU card, not always though (given their age of course) Do you add to the fan connectors found on the board itself? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/?do=findComment&comment=1059679835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebernanut Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I noticed you mention a fan on your desk which makes me wonder if you have one of those computer desks with a small cabinet to put your computer in. If you do have one of these desks take the computer out of the cabinet, placing a computer in one of those is like wrapping it in a blanket. I would check the graphics card to see if it's full of dust or if the fan isn't working. It's also possible that the thermal paste has gone bad on the card. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/?do=findComment&comment=1059679900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Well, sounded like he had it open to examine, should be easy to spot dust build up. I run mine often times without the side covers, etc. It doesn't look pretty but it does the tasks regardless. Doesn't matter if you're not picky over cases. I like nice ones, but often times they're just large, cumbersome boxes that still are unsightly Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/?do=findComment&comment=1059679987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike752 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Did you consider a GPU cooler? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/?do=findComment&comment=1059680247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pico Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 That tube to direct heat could be blocking air flow, as you said. But you mention 7 fans... the problem with too many fans is that it causes uneven airflow. It could be making it hard for the fans to grab enough air if the air flow is too fast past them. And you say you have a fan under the GPU to blow air at it. What brand is your GPU? Is it single slot, or double slot? And what case do you have? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/?do=findComment&comment=1059680532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star-Lord Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I have 7 fans total on my PC, 2 on the side, (1 Cpu vent to vent CPU fan out side, and a chassis fan on the side to help keep it cool.)CPU fan is an Intel QST or something like that I believe. one for the back to suck/blow air, a small little fan on the BOTTOM of my GPU, which is very strange for a GPU that heats up to 82 Celcius by itself, when I'm even doing NOTHING AT ALL. 2 - Side fans - maybe exhaust. 1 - Chassis fan - maybe exhaust as well. Any front intake fans? The only purpose of the tube made famous by Intel Pentium 4's is to bring in outside cooler air, directly to the processor. So it's plausible it could be blocking airflow from the rest of the case. (Note: When cases are setup by manufacturers their simply setup for the basics with no customization in mind.) So when you start upgrading to faster GPUs and CPUs you always have to remember to also upgrade your cooling solutions. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/?do=findComment&comment=1059680851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWANT2MODCARS Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 I noticed you mention a fan on your desk which makes me wonder if you have one of those computer desks with a small cabinet to put your computer in. If you do have one of these desks take the computer out of the cabinet, placing a computer in one of those is like wrapping it in a blanket. I would check the graphics card to see if it's full of dust or if the fan isn't working. It's also possible that the thermal paste has gone bad on the card. I'm a bit lazy at the moment, but I'll try to reply to all of you, and edit. Anyways; It is one of those "commercial" open desks, the bottom Y bars holding it up from the side upside-down U bars is what held my desk fan, my computer is on the floor, and I I am currently running my PC with the case OPEN, I have the pins/buttons for the computer case on the top of my desk. and I'll try to find a pic of how my PC/Desk is setup sooner or later, I'll search. Yet I do not know the brand of my PC case/Model. Put it this way, it USED to be a vista, usually not much to do, then I used a "ripped" copy of XP to downgrade back to XP, because Vista was screwing me off, so I went back to XP. I may plan on getting Windows 7, but my hopes are still dust on a heatsink. Don't know what to do with my PC's life or the situation here. I'll keep updated. Maybe, I'll post pics of my PC as soon as I can get my pics of the Cannon HD camera to my pc to download and upload to Photobucket, or something. If the d*mn mods at GTAF allow me to post attachment pictures. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/?do=findComment&comment=1059681942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingvercetti Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 While that is a level to be concerned about, 4800s are known to run fairly hot, particularly 4850s. It would be worth it to have a Google around to see what other owners of your card are getting, that will at least give you more of a gauge on how big the problem is. Regardless, that is worryingly hot, so in the meantime follow pcguytech's advice and crank your fan up (not necessarily to 100% because it's pretty noisy), saying as another thing 4800s do is have the fan set to a low RPM by default. My 4870 at this second in time is only running at 11% fan speed, idling at 60 C. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/?do=findComment&comment=1059682249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermortalhuman Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Did you already cover bases like blow it out outside and remove all dust from inside of it and check that bios settings are optimal? 65 is okay on load for long periods of time to reach that, but idle, that's odd, and it could be dust, it could be malfunctioning sensors or incorrect software, as well. Just dropping some stuff, hopefully it's not rehashes of what's been said, hopefully it's one of the three, dust being most favorable for anyone I'm sure. If you try another monitoring software, check that your mobo maker has their own special made to play nice with their sensors and bios. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/?do=findComment&comment=1059682298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Just a note here, I'm reading a 2006 PC Magazine issue with an article on home built gaming machine using an AN8 board from Abit, the high end AMD chip of the time, and offering a number of cool and quiet devices to keep it's goal noise level down, they even used a meter to rate the sound levels comparatively within the room! I'll list those devices they recommend, as by now, the cost will be more affordable, one system that is not liquid cooling, per se, is at a cost of $400 back then! I'll edit in the names of these devices a bit later for you to look into. Even the CPU heatsink fan and how they mounted it Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/?do=findComment&comment=1059682416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpus Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I have an ATI HD 4850 and it used to run at those type of temperatures until I bought a better cooler. It now runs at around 35C idle and 55C load even while overclocked Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/?do=findComment&comment=1059682494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWANT2MODCARS Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 I have an ATI HD 4850 and it used to run at those type of temperatures until I bought a better cooler. It now runs at around 35C idle and 55C load even while overclocked We're not here for trolling, I'm looking for ANSWERS to my overwhelmingly HOT GPU! Anyways like asked in previous posts, yes the sensor is NOT malfunctioning, there is a sensor, and it starts up at the lowest I caught it on the reader in the ATI program, was somewhere 'round 56 Celsius, but thats still hot considering going over 100 FAHRENHEIT when my/the room temperature is 75 degrees F (Fahrenheit). Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/?do=findComment&comment=1059682804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpus Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 (edited) I'm looking for ANSWERS to my overwhelmingly HOT GPU! It just IS a hot graphics card (with the stock cooler). Just take a look here, here, here, here and here - they all say the same: the card is hot on both idle and load. Solution? Buy a new GPU cooler or increase the fan speed manually Edited December 13, 2009 by Scorpus Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/434655-pc-heats-up-to-between-60-80-celcius/?do=findComment&comment=1059682884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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