florisinfernus 0 Posted November 20, 2009 (edited) I found this in the handling.dat Dvt-MedShot sent me: ; > THE DATA < ; name mass drag boy centreofmass transmission brakes steer wheel-traction suspension damage seat val mflags hflags anim ; A B C D E F G Tt Tg Tf Ti Tv Tb Tbb Thb Ts Wc+ Wc- Wc- Ws+ Wbias Sf Scd Srd Su Sl Sr Sb Dc Dw Dd De Ms Mv Mmf Mhf ROBIN 1000.0 4.0 85 0.0 -0.3 -0.2 0.0 3 0.50 1.0 50.0 0.4 0.50 0.7 35.0 1.50 1.35 15.0 0.10 0.47 4.0 1.5 1.5 0.10 -0.10 0.0 0.66 1.0 1.0 0.8 1.5 0.0 15000 440000 0 0 I have never seen this vehicle. It's not in the information centre. It weighs only 1000kg and has good accelaration but only a topspeed of around 110 km/h. It drives like a quicker and heavier Caddy. My guess is that it was a small high end electric car. Edited November 22, 2009 by florisinfernus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BalladOfNikoBellic 0 Posted November 20, 2009 the hunting begins NOW! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stinomontana 426 Posted November 20, 2009 its the chopper in yusuf's appartment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
florisinfernus 0 Posted November 20, 2009 its the chopper in yusuf's appartment Are you sure? It's in the car list so that seems unlikely to me. Is there a way to obtain it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LCstuntman 11 Posted November 21, 2009 Could it be... The Skyhook?! THE HUNT BEGINS!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cilogy 484 Posted November 21, 2009 I don't know, since its a bird name it could mean its a heli instead of a motorcycle. So I think its safe to say that it is the Skyhook, as LCstuntman said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokrie Dela 2,820 Posted November 21, 2009 maybe its the GOLD Buzzard? Its called buzzard yeah, but R* could have called it something else in the files - there being 2 versions of the Buzzard... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamcs 585 Posted November 21, 2009 This vehicle got removed from the game, so don't waste your time looking for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cilogy 484 Posted November 21, 2009 This vehicle got removed from the game, so don't waste your time looking for it. So WHEN this game comes to the PC will people be able to find out what it actually is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
florisinfernus 0 Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) It's nor a Skyhook nor a Buzzard. They are both in the same file and you can clearly see they are different. This vehicle got removed from the game, so don't waste your time looking for it. Do you have an idea of what it is? Edit: Maybe a Reliant Robin? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliant_Robin It's slow and relatively light so that seems obvious. Edited November 21, 2009 by florisinfernus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smeagol 0 Posted November 21, 2009 maybe its the GOLD Buzzard? Its called buzzard yeah, but R* could have called it something else in the files - there being 2 versions of the Buzzard... think of the golden buzzard like a different paint job for a car. Its similar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo_V 0 Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) maybe its the GOLD Buzzard? Its called buzzard yeah, but R* could have called it something else in the files - there being 2 versions of the Buzzard... think of the golden buzzard like a different paint job for a car. Its similar Yes, you're right. I looked in the script files for the color and Yusuf's Golden Buzzard has the Color 136, 136, 136. (which is one of the three new colors, the first 134 is the yellow gold, his super drop diamond has, 135 is a black tone, which is even darker than the normal black i think tony's car uses this and 136 is the color his Buzzard uses.) It's the same color his Super Drop Diamond has as 2nd color. @ topic The Robin HAS to be a vehicle, no bike, because it's under Police4, which is either the Police Buffalo or the Stinger. And Robin has to be the other one. END Edited November 21, 2009 by Jimbo_V Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
florisinfernus 0 Posted November 21, 2009 maybe its the GOLD Buzzard? Its called buzzard yeah, but R* could have called it something else in the files - there being 2 versions of the Buzzard... think of the golden buzzard like a different paint job for a car. Its similar Yes, you're right. I looked in the script files for the color and Yusuf's Golden Buzzard has the Color 136, 136, 136. (which is one of the three new colors, the first 134 is the yellow gold, his super drop diamond has, 135 is a black tone, which is even darker than the normal black i think tony's car uses this and 136 is the color his Buzzard uses.) It's the same color his Super Drop Diamond has as 2nd color. @ topic The Robin HAS to be a vehicle, no bike, because it's under Police4, which is either the Police Buffalo or the Stinger. And Robin has to be the other one. END Police4 is the Police Stinger. The police Buffalo, the F620,the Schafter and the Stretch E all aren't in the handling.dat because thay all use the handling.dat from a GTA IV vehicle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dvt-MedShot 2 Posted November 21, 2009 maybe its the GOLD Buzzard? Its called buzzard yeah, but R* could have called it something else in the files - there being 2 versions of the Buzzard... think of the golden buzzard like a different paint job for a car. Its similar Yes, you're right. I looked in the script files for the color and Yusuf's Golden Buzzard has the Color 136, 136, 136. (which is one of the three new colors, the first 134 is the yellow gold, his super drop diamond has, 135 is a black tone, which is even darker than the normal black i think tony's car uses this and 136 is the color his Buzzard uses.) It's the same color his Super Drop Diamond has as 2nd color. @ topic The Robin HAS to be a vehicle, no bike, because it's under Police4, which is either the Police Buffalo or the Stinger. And Robin has to be the other one. END Police4 is the Police Stinger. The police Buffalo, the F620,the Schafter and the Stretch E all aren't in the handling.dat because thay all use the handling.dat from a GTA IV vehicle. Yup. In the vehicles.ide, in those vehicle lines there stands SUPERGT (F620), SCHAFTER (...) and STRETCH (Stretch E). The ROBIN couldn't be the Swift or Skylift, as they have their own handling line. And besides, those are helicopters, and the ROBIN is a car. Btw another unkown vehicle is the AVAN. But I think that's the Brickade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
florisinfernus 0 Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) maybe its the GOLD Buzzard? Its called buzzard yeah, but R* could have called it something else in the files - there being 2 versions of the Buzzard... think of the golden buzzard like a different paint job for a car. Its similar Yes, you're right. I looked in the script files for the color and Yusuf's Golden Buzzard has the Color 136, 136, 136. (which is one of the three new colors, the first 134 is the yellow gold, his super drop diamond has, 135 is a black tone, which is even darker than the normal black i think tony's car uses this and 136 is the color his Buzzard uses.) It's the same color his Super Drop Diamond has as 2nd color. @ topic The Robin HAS to be a vehicle, no bike, because it's under Police4, which is either the Police Buffalo or the Stinger. And Robin has to be the other one. END Police4 is the Police Stinger. The police Buffalo, the F620,the Schafter and the Stretch E all aren't in the handling.dat because thay all use the handling.dat from a GTA IV vehicle. Yup. In the vehicles.ide, in those vehicle lines there stands SUPERGT (F620), SCHAFTER (...) and STRETCH (Stretch E). The ROBIN couldn't be the Swift or Skylift, as they have their own handling line. And besides, those are helicopters, and the ROBIN is a car. Btw another unkown vehicle is the AVAN. But I think that's the Brickade. Yes, It's obviously the brickade since it weighs 6500 kilos and it is quite slow. Edit: I didn't manage to open the script.img and vehicles.ide files yet. Can you get some more information out of them? Edited November 21, 2009 by florisinfernus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SLAYERMAGGOT 11 Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) Some things about the "AVAN" AVAN= a van -------------------------------------------------------------------- handling.dat: AVAN 6500.0 4.0 95 0.0 0.0 -0.2 0.0 5 0.14 0.7 100.0 0.15 0.68 0.2 35.0 1.00 0.75 14.4 0.15 0.48 1.2 1.1 0.7 0.20 -0.25 0.0 0.5 1.0 0.3 0.5 1.5 0.15 40000 8 8300000 2 vehicles.ide: avan, avan, car, AVAN, AVAN, [email protected], NULL, 1, 1, 0.3144, 0.3144, 0.3, 2, 1.5 noboot+big+isvan+avoidturns+truckfirefx+truckenginefx carcols.dat: avan, 95,95,95, -------------------------------------------------------------------- At first this vehicles weights 6500 kg, which could be like the brickade. Also the vehicles.ide tells that this car is a van and has truck fx. The colour number 95 according to the GTA IV colors is: 122,117,96,-,beige # 95 pueblo beige Which is this colour: It's looks somehow like the Brickade's color. It's easy to make the avan spawn in TBOGT: Just open "cargrp.dat" and add it to some popcycle groups. Also you should edit the popcycle.dat and add the avan. It should work great. EDIT: Well there is just a handling line for the "ROBIN". It doesn't exist in carcols.dat, cargrp.dat and vehicles.ide, which mean the car won't work ingame. Edited November 21, 2009 by SLAYERMAGGOT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dvt-MedShot 2 Posted November 21, 2009 maybe its the GOLD Buzzard? Its called buzzard yeah, but R* could have called it something else in the files - there being 2 versions of the Buzzard... think of the golden buzzard like a different paint job for a car. Its similar Yes, you're right. I looked in the script files for the color and Yusuf's Golden Buzzard has the Color 136, 136, 136. (which is one of the three new colors, the first 134 is the yellow gold, his super drop diamond has, 135 is a black tone, which is even darker than the normal black i think tony's car uses this and 136 is the color his Buzzard uses.) It's the same color his Super Drop Diamond has as 2nd color. @ topic The Robin HAS to be a vehicle, no bike, because it's under Police4, which is either the Police Buffalo or the Stinger. And Robin has to be the other one. END Police4 is the Police Stinger. The police Buffalo, the F620,the Schafter and the Stretch E all aren't in the handling.dat because thay all use the handling.dat from a GTA IV vehicle. Yup. In the vehicles.ide, in those vehicle lines there stands SUPERGT (F620), SCHAFTER (...) and STRETCH (Stretch E). The ROBIN couldn't be the Swift or Skylift, as they have their own handling line. And besides, those are helicopters, and the ROBIN is a car. Btw another unkown vehicle is the AVAN. But I think that's the Brickade. Yes, It's obviously the brickade since it weighs 6500 kilos and it is quite slow. Edit: I didn't manage to open the script.img and vehicles.ide files yet. Can you get some more information out of them? Just open script.img with Spark IV, and vehicles.ide with Notepad (Kladblok). @Slay: Yeah you can edit it, but you cannot export it to your Xbox again. The only possible thing is that if you have a modded Xbox and EFLC, that you edit it and burn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LCstuntman 11 Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) Yup. In the vehicles.ide, in those vehicle lines there stands SUPERGT (F620), SCHAFTER (...) and STRETCH (Stretch E). The ROBIN couldn't be the Swift or Skylift, as they have their own handling line. And besides, those are helicopters, and the ROBIN is a car. Btw another unkown vehicle is the AVAN. But I think that's the Brickade. Hold up here for a second. The Skylift already has vehicle files? So if in some miniscule chance someone managed to snipe down the skyhook in that one mission, you could fly it? Back OT: Robin AVAN: car 6500 kg, or about 14,330 lbs. color is gray van with truck fx It simply has to be the Brickade. Edited November 21, 2009 by LCstuntman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
florisinfernus 0 Posted November 21, 2009 Yup. In the vehicles.ide, in those vehicle lines there stands SUPERGT (F620), SCHAFTER (...) and STRETCH (Stretch E). The ROBIN couldn't be the Swift or Skylift, as they have their own handling line. And besides, those are helicopters, and the ROBIN is a car. Btw another unkown vehicle is the AVAN. But I think that's the Brickade. Hold up here for a second. The Skylift already has vehicle files? So if in some miniscule chance someone managed to snipe down the skyhook in that one mission, you could fly it? Back OT: Robin: car 6500 kg, or about 14,330 lbs. color is gray van with truck fx It simply has to be the Brickade. You're wrong. It's only 1000KG. The Brickade on the other hand is called AVAN in the handling.dat and it is indeed 6500KG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LCstuntman 11 Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) Yup. In the vehicles.ide, in those vehicle lines there stands SUPERGT (F620), SCHAFTER (...) and STRETCH (Stretch E). The ROBIN couldn't be the Swift or Skylift, as they have their own handling line. And besides, those are helicopters, and the ROBIN is a car. Btw another unkown vehicle is the AVAN. But I think that's the Brickade. Hold up here for a second. The Skylift already has vehicle files? So if in some miniscule chance someone managed to snipe down the skyhook in that one mission, you could fly it? Back OT: Robin: car 6500 kg, or about 14,330 lbs. color is gray van with truck fx It simply has to be the Brickade. You're wrong. It's only 1000KG. The Brickade on the other hand is called AVAN in the handling.dat and it is indeed 6500KG. Oh sh*t, got the AVAN and the Robin mixed up. All these files are so confusing Edited November 21, 2009 by LCstuntman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lollercoaster 0 Posted November 21, 2009 Where did you get the files from??? Did you take them from your X360 harddrive?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
florisinfernus 0 Posted November 22, 2009 Where did you get the files from??? Did you take them from your X360 harddrive?? Dvt-Medshot extracted them from his 360 to his PC. Don't ask me how.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piperka 220 Posted November 22, 2009 Maybe it's a secret car hidden somewhere in LC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dvt-MedShot 2 Posted November 22, 2009 Maybe it's a secret car hidden somewhere in LC No, because there's no model for it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
florisinfernus 0 Posted November 22, 2009 Maybe it's a secret car hidden somewhere in LC No, because there's no model for it... Is the handling.dat the only information on this car you can get from the game file? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SLAYERMAGGOT 11 Posted November 22, 2009 Maybe it's a secret car hidden somewhere in LC No, because there's no model for it... How can you know that? Are you able to open the vehicles archive? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dvt-MedShot 2 Posted November 22, 2009 Maybe it's a secret car hidden somewhere in LC No, because there's no model for it... How can you know that? Are you able to open the vehicles archive? Sure. You can open all archives (with Spark IV or OpenIV). You're only not able to open the files in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTA_dog 717 Posted November 22, 2009 Maybe it's like the Regina or Tampa in TLaD. Only we have yet to see the car. It's not in the strategy guide? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_CP_ 8,950 Posted November 22, 2009 I made a movie, with handling of Robin in Blista: Sorry for camera, but Fraps don't record sound. Max speed of car is 60KM/H Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
florisinfernus 0 Posted November 23, 2009 I made a movie, with handling of Robin in Blista: Sorry for camera, but Fraps don't record sound. Max speed of car is 60KM/H Wow, nice one. Maybe it's like the Regina or Tampa in TLaD. Only we have yet to see the car. It's not in the strategy guide? No, it's only in the handling.dat. There isn't even a model for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
