Hart Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 The multiplayer is definitely the best part of the demo though. Anyone who tries to betray you near-ish to the start (you can't traitor until the looting has begun) usually gets gunned down by the team straight away which is good. Stops having to wait and watch the rest of the round if you get killed straight away. The shooting mechanics have been fixed completely, and the whole buying guns between rounds is awesome (although your guns reset when you join another lobby on the demo). Hopefully in the final version they have a party system or something because you can't invite your friends to ranked matches atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Driver Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 (edited) Bad news: Steamworks. Game wasn't supposed to use GfWLive so I hoped no 3rd party software would be installed with the game. What's actually good with Steamworks that's there's no additional DRM like SecuROM. Impulse should hurry with their Reactor and also make a lot of exclusive deals. Edited July 27, 2010 by Street Mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullMetal Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 (edited) There's a free singleplayer demo out on Steam just to let you guys know. f*ck YEAH, downloading now. Also from what I read from the last few posts... nothing but good news. If Daz approves of the weaponry it must be OK. Also I thought it wasn't confirmed at all that STEAMWORKS would be supported with this game? I actually expected them to use Xboxlive for PC again. On top of that, if it would use STEAMWORKS I'd be f*cking glad. The only good alternative and widespread used alternative on PC so f*ck it. It ain't sh*t, it's user friendly, it doesn't shove achievements down your troath nor does DLC come overpriced (same counts for games). I have yet to meet a game that is cheaper in the stores than on STEAM. All games I bought through STEAM were a hell lot cheaper on STEAM than in the stores. Which isn't the case with other 'digital distribution networks' (for both PC and consoles). Edit: f*cking hell this game is a major improvement over the original. Also: recommended settings were actually 'maxed out settings' in 1980 - 1020... runs smoothly aswell. Played the 'singleplayer' part and I'm blow away. It is actually infinite ammounts better than the original. Controlls feel good, it makes sense and their style choice is pretty damn awesome. Only some of the menu features/lobby features should be fixed. I joined a ranked game and I couldn't do anything but click 'ready' and check my own profile. You should be able to mute people (it was full of f*cking idiots with crappy mics who were on nonstop), kick people and also go from 'ready' to 'not ready'. On top of that, haven't been able to play one online match because of the game staying on 'waiting for other players...' screen. I guess there are too many people who have slow PC's. Edited July 27, 2010 by fullmetal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Also from what I read from the last few posts... nothing but good news. If Daz approves of the weaponry it must be OK. There isnt that many to choose from, most are locked, and I am alittle dissapointed there arent more western weapons, something like an M4 or a G3 would be really nice. As it seems there are quite alot of AK variants and either russian or chinese weapons (I know its in china but still). But its still an improvement as you only had a choice of 4 guns in the first game for fragile alliance. Also what I liked in singleplayer was some weapons when placed on your back spawn a sling around you which adds a nice touch. Not quite sure what the deal is with auto spawning a nice pistol when using human shields but then not being able to use it. Also no melee button, so maybe this is their version of melee + having infinite ammo, or something. I think you just need to make sure you fiddle with the settings abit, and turn shakey cam off. Its alot better. Though that filter does look abit weird at times but personally I do like the CCTV theme, but im not keen on it if it obstructs my vision. The AI in fragile alliance is abit dodgy, they can speed about really fast and a recent game I had was very laggy that I couldnt do anything and was shooting at enemies just standing there that wouldnt die. But it may just be down to the connection. Ive also found to be sat in an empty lobby for ages, I dont know if the demo times out the servers or what but sometimes it doesnt work when selecting rejoin. I am just wondering how these exclusive weapons work, if they are locked for everyone unless you have the code, or you unlock them later or, will we have to even pay for them ingame and we always get them free, or what. Which is my only real problem with the online, is not being able to save a certain loadout to spawn with, even if it is just out of a choice of just a couple of other choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullMetal Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Yeah from what I read and seen money/weapon loadouts (in other words bought weapons) do not get saved. You'll have to work your way up time and time again. Also the lobby options are rather limited which is also a bad thing and if you put the laggy games on top of that (I kind of guessed it was both bad programming + overload of gamers who want to play this) this needs alot of fixing. Weapons feel great though, really great I must say when we are comparing with the original Kane and Lynch. Had a really laggy game of Fragile Allience yesterday. Shot the traitors (and the other f*ckers) and ran with their money. Thing was though game was so laggy some of the cops I shot were 'constantly downed' and they were sliding all over the place when downed... and suddenly (eventhough I emptied all my magazines in one 'downed guy') he's holding me with a sidearm pointed at my dome... Laggy as hell and annoying as hell. Somehow by buttonbashing I got out of his grip and eventually got to the van. (spraying, running and lucky lagg that helped me out). Got out with 1 900 000 dollars! Following game which was as laggy or even laggier I had 2 640 000 dollars... but the lagg and host ended it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linki Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Fragile Alliance is such an awesome concept, but it could of been done better: Only one getaway vehicle, so the 50/50 thing matters. But the getaway vehicle will wait until every member is in (unless they're dead or every member tells the driver to go). Being a traitor is very hard, most people don't do it. When you become a traitor, you should still get points for killing cops and should still see other members. If you respawn as a cop, you should get the same guns as NPC cops. If someone dies and you want to get his money, you should pick it up automatically (discounting the opening part). A mute button for the love of my ears. Rejoin usually doesn't work, please rework this. The lag in this demo is absolutely appalling. Hopefully it's just because it's a demo. If they fix these, I might buy the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullMetal Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 I pre ordered the game already and I'm going to buy the (Special Edition of the) game for sure. Singleplayer will be worth it's dough for sure with the proper gameplay, Co-Operative play will work normally with STEAMWORKS and I can only hope ranked multiplayer allows you to invite and/or join friends... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 If you respawn as a cop, you should get the same guns as NPC cops. Yeah I dont know why that is. I mean its not like you can buy guns and use them as the cops also. So depending on the map the cops could have had different guns. So what does this mean every time you play as a cop you are stuck with an AKS74U copy every single time? Not that the gun isnt awesome but I like having a choice and not using the same thing too much and most of all I dont like going with what the crowd has. But I love the shooting and its very rare these days to get a shooter that actually makes you feel naughty for shooting your gun, like you just set off a fog horn at night in a residential area. The last game that made me feel like that was Counter Strike Source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Played the SP demo. Cool sh*t. And I really dig the graphics. Gameplay is awesome. They really improved all aspects of the previous game. Too bad it's coming out at the same time as Mafia 2. I'll probably get it later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeperRed Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Am I the only one who thinks this is just another medicore shooter singleplayer wise ? There is no blood for whats meant to be a brutal game and the death animations are just stiff. I feel much more pwoerful when I shoot someone in the face in Red dead then I do in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLlTZ Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 Remember, this is just the demo. Depends now what they have choosed to put from the hole game into this demo. Every effect or something else, adds more kb/mb to the demo, if I'm right; don't know for sure. You want to download 5GB demo from 7GB or how larger it will be ?! This is the demo from the E3. I'm pretty sure they didn't added nothing to it, just to be playable for PC too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hart Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 (edited) I guess I'm one of the lucky ones because I've experienced no lag.. BTW, if you get enough money in the first round buy the (chinese) scorpion or that first shotgun, they are GREAT for when you are waiting with one other guy for the getaway car and you want his money edit: New trailer, bit too flash for me, unless it's a mockery of that style. 0:36 - the much talked about torture level? Edited July 29, 2010 by Hart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLlTZ Posted July 29, 2010 Author Share Posted July 29, 2010 Your not the only one. I played the game on high and no lagg or freezing. I was suprized. Is like I was playing the game like Half-Life 2. It was like a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Am I the only one who thinks this is just another medicore shooter singleplayer wise ? Yes, yes you are. The reason why this is better than RDR (not that it should even be compared) is because of aiming, freedom and how playing it will be different every time. Till rockstar realise that they need to ditch this stupid as f*ck auto aiming system they will never make a good shooter. Auto aiming you can kill everything without even having your eyes open its just clicking two buttons, you feel like you actually do something in this game. And the only reason you like the headshots in that game is the engine, f*ck all to do with the game. The only thing that needs abit of polishing is the AI and movement phsyics it can be abit quick and slidey. But yeah as said this is the exact same as the closed demo/beta before. Alot of this could be fixed. I mean its never going to be perfect, but I am just glad they made a massive improvement. And that a full co-op game with good shooting and guns, and a decent enough multiplayer is more than apriciated. Even if it is just a week before Mafia 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EduardKoeleJuck Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Am I the only one who thinks this is just another medicore shooter singleplayer wise ? Yes, yes you are. The reason why this is better than RDR (not that it should even be compared) is because of aiming, freedom and how playing it will be different every time. Till rockstar realise that they need to ditch this stupid as f*ck auto aiming system they will never make a good shooter. Auto aiming you can kill everything without even having your eyes open its just clicking two buttons, you feel like you actually do something in this game. And the only reason you like the headshots in that game is the engine, f*ck all to do with the game. The only thing that needs abit of polishing is the AI and movement phsyics it can be abit quick and slidey. But yeah as said this is the exact same as the closed demo/beta before. Alot of this could be fixed. I mean its never going to be perfect, but I am just glad they made a massive improvement. And that a full co-op game with good shooting and guns, and a decent enough multiplayer is more than apriciated. Even if it is just a week before Mafia 2. You know you can turn Auto-Aim off, right? I play it without Auto-Aim. I played IV and EFLC with it though, I never considered doing otherwise but in RDR it was achievement-bound so that was an easy choice. RDR is also different with every playthrough as you have the Honor system and all, and the achievements are better (forgive me, I'm a whore.). Anyway, I'm on a holiday right now and I'm so f*cking pissed that I can't play the demo, what a shame. I've been looking forward to this game since I played part one, which was an awesome game in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownBear Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 So what do you guys think i should buy first, Mafia 2 or Kane and Lynch? i don't have the money to pre order them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minus the Boom Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 So what do you guys think i should buy first, Mafia 2 or Kane and Lynch? i don't have the money to pre order them both. Mafia 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownBear Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 So what do you guys think i should buy first, Mafia 2 or Kane and Lynch? i don't have the money to pre order them both. Mafia 2. Yeah, i probably will do, i'll have to get Dog days at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 You know you can turn Auto-Aim off, right? 1: Both RDR and GTA are DESIGNED to be played with auto aim. Meaning, playing without it, is only going to cause you way more pain than needed. Hit detection is horrible and people take WAY too many shots to die, using manual aim is f*cking stupid. Especially with the cops being so deadly as they are. 2: Stop talking about those sh*t games. Anyway I noticed two things that need to be addressed. Obviously the 'B button for human shield' in multiplayer, I am pretty sure people do this ALL the time on accident. It is a really stupid thing to include. Also then shooting the traitor you will more than likely kill or injure the hostage which will then make you a traitor also. Another thing was I was doing epicly well and just before the end of the game on the last round the host quit. And it just abruptly ends the game, this needs to have host migration or at least not let the host leave without it saving progress and your cash and who technically won. Because thats bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radltzx Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Am I the only one who experiences crash right when the game starts?? When I press Play on steam and it goes to black screen and the game should start but then the pc restarts. Anyone knows why is that happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Am I the only one who experiences crash right when the game starts?? When I press Play on steam and it goes to black screen and the game should start but then the pc restarts. Anyone knows why is that happening? Tell us your PC specs. Also check your temperatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radltzx Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Am I the only one who experiences crash right when the game starts?? When I press Play on steam and it goes to black screen and the game should start but then the pc restarts. Anyone knows why is that happening? Tell us your PC specs. Also check your temperatures. Pc specs: core2duo e7300 @2.66ghz 2gb ram 4850 512mb Temps: CPU idles @~45°C, and ~55-58 under load GPU idles @~60-65°C and ~85-91 under load (that's normal for a stock cooled 4850) If something was overheating I would get to play atleast for a couple of minutes before it crashes, but now it's just right after I press play.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Am I the only one who experiences crash right when the game starts?? When I press Play on steam and it goes to black screen and the game should start but then the pc restarts. Anyone knows why is that happening? Tell us your PC specs. Also check your temperatures. Pc specs: core2duo e7300 @2.66ghz 2gb ram 4850 512mb Temps: CPU idles @~45°C, and ~55-58 under load GPU idles @~60-65°C and ~85-91 under load (that's normal for a stock cooled 4850) If something was overheating I would get to play atleast for a couple of minutes before it crashes, but now it's just right after I press play.. Did you update your drivers, check the PSU? Or maybe just reinstall the demo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radltzx Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 (edited) Am I the only one who experiences crash right when the game starts?? When I press Play on steam and it goes to black screen and the game should start but then the pc restarts. Anyone knows why is that happening? Tell us your PC specs. Also check your temperatures. Pc specs: core2duo e7300 @2.66ghz 2gb ram 4850 512mb Temps: CPU idles @~45°C, and ~55-58 under load GPU idles @~60-65°C and ~85-91 under load (that's normal for a stock cooled 4850) If something was overheating I would get to play atleast for a couple of minutes before it crashes, but now it's just right after I press play.. Did you update your drivers, check the PSU? Or maybe just reinstall the demo. Yeah now I also thought about drivers and I think this could be the problem. Going to try that now. Thanks! Edit: yup, fixed the problem, the game is running flawlessly. Edited August 2, 2010 by radltzx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEPH X Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 OXM has a six page review in the next issue and gives KLDD 9/10. http://www.kane-lynch.com/ Behind the scenes: Kane trailer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braindawg Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 i also have the crash, i played both multiplayer and singleplayer twise and everything was awesome. then everytime the game starts in crashes on the first or secord logo screen after the "buffering" one. this has nothing to do with DEP(Data Execution Prevention) i checked if the game works both with and without DEP on, and it still crashes. this is some weird sh*t guys, i hope it gets fixed soon, or wont be in the game itself atleast.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roastyleg Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 so if i dl the 360 demo, can i play the SP part over and over, its not timed or anything and play as much MP as i want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 so if i dl the 360 demo, can i play the SP part over and over, its not timed or anything and play as much MP as i want? Yes. You can also jizz as many times as you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Driver Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 I just hope the game will be fully in Shanghai cause the first K&L became boring after 10th mission (Havana and jungle missions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcis_speed6 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 so if i dl the 360 demo, can i play the SP part over and over, its not timed or anything and play as much MP as i want? single player is very very short, i played it 2 times and i got bored, not really much happening in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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