vincecarterfan Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I'm new here, but I created an account because I wanted to tell you something. I am a desk clerk at a hotel in Miami, and on Tuesday the 10th I met some people who worked for Rockstar. It was only small talk, and we mostly talked about the weather. But luckily, I mentioned GTA4, and that is when I found out. To be totally honest, I really don’t know anything, however…from one of their necks, I noticed a Nikon SLR. I am not sure which exact model it was, but it was way too expensive for a weekend at the beach! Ok, where am I going with this? Well, I don’t think they were on vacation…I think they were working. Don't you remember hearing that Rockstar sends people out to scout the city before they actually start making their game. But then again… I am only a desk clerk. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restelo94 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I'm new here, but I created an account because I wanted to tell you something. I am a desk clerk at a hotel in Miami, and on Tuesday the 10th I met some people who worked for Rockstar. It was only small talk, and we mostly talked about the weather. But luckily, I mentioned GTA4, and that is when I found out. To be totally honest, I really don’t know anything, however…from one of their necks, I noticed a Nikon SLR. I am not sure which exact model it was, but it was way too expensive for a weekend at the beach! Ok, where am I going with this? Well, I don’t think they were on vacation…I think they were working. Don't you remember hearing that Rockstar sends people out to scout the city before they actually start making their game. But then again… I am only a desk clerk. This seems to back-up my Sammy Botino theory... But they did do they same for NYC, great find man and welcome to the forums! Have a cookie for the find Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059637557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicboy Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Good find my man, you could be on to something. Rockstar like holidays too!! That aside , good work u shud get the key to ther room and fleece their f*ckin baggage, asap!! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059637558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freezer89 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Awesome find/theory! May i ask, in which hotel this was? And did u noticed them shooting with the camera(s)? Any notices they make about the hotel or somewhere? This makes the chances of next GTA in Vice City nearer.. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059637603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganja star Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 u believe tht then youll believe anythin Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059637626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
major underscore Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Yeah, I bet R* would need to send a new camera crew to Miami seeing as they haven't been there before or made any game based on that city or anything. Oh, I'm sorry, my bad. Must've been temporary memory loss. Anyway, I always find these random new GTAF account guys very reliable. Maybe you're the real deal, but there is simply no way of knowing. Next time post some pics. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059638020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iranoverlaslow Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Yeah, I bet R* would need to send a new camera crew to Miami seeing as they haven't been there before or made any game based on that city or anything. Oh, I'm sorry, my bad. Must've been temporary memory loss. Anyway, I always find these random new GTAF account guys very reliable. Maybe you're the real deal, but there is simply no way of knowing. Next time post some pics. Yeah, I bet R* would need to send a new camera crew to Miami seeing as they haven't been there before or made any game based on that city or anything. Yeah considering Vice City had no resemblance whatsoever to Miami, I think they would. Oh, I'm sorry, my bad. Must've been temporary memory loss. Your an *sshole. Anyway, I always find these random new GTAF account guys very reliable. Maybe you're the real deal, but there is simply no way of knowing. Next time post some pics. Yeah because the first thing I think when meeting someone from R* is can I take pictures of you guys so that some dumb*ss on GTA Forums believes me? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059638035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirPsychoSexy Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Yeah, I bet R* would need to send a new camera crew to Miami seeing as they haven't been there before or made any game based on that city or anything. Oh, I'm sorry, my bad. Must've been temporary memory loss. Anyway, I always find these random new GTAF account guys very reliable. Maybe you're the real deal, but there is simply no way of knowing. Next time post some pics. Yeah, I bet R* would need to send a new camera crew to Miami seeing as they haven't been there before or made any game based on that city or anything. Yeah considering Vice City had no resemblance whatsoever to Miami, I think they would. Oh, I'm sorry, my bad. Must've been temporary memory loss. Your an *sshole. Anyway, I always find these random new GTAF account guys very reliable. Maybe you're the real deal, but there is simply no way of knowing. Next time post some pics. Yeah because the first thing I think when meeting someone from R* is can I take pictures of you guys so that some dumb*ss on GTA Forums believes me? Yes, even if they have done VC they would look the setting up again if they remade it. And of course he couldn't take pictures in that situation. And if he did, what would it prove? How would we know that a couple of guys on a photo were from R*? Although, I don't know what to believe. Maybe he's telling the truth, maybe not. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059638066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
i like coffee enemas Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 He seems sincere, but who the hell knows nowadays? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059638084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal000 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 (edited) Accidental Double Post, sorry, computer lag. See below post. Edited November 17, 2009 by socal000 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059638103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal000 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Anyway, I always find these random new GTAF account guys very reliable. Maybe you're the real deal, but there is simply no way of knowing. Next time post some pics. No offense, but how do you expect him to post pictures? Don't you realize how weird that would be to take a picture of the guys or record the conversation? Anyway, that sounds promising. Thanks for sharing. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059638164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionist Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Were they British or American? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059638816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnia sunt Communia Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I'm pretty sure that Rockstar are already well under way with constructing the map for GTA V. I mean, GTA IV, was in development before the release of San Andreas. I doubt they would only just now be sending out people to photograph the city. Seems like something you'd do a lot sooner on. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059638827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
major underscore Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Yeah, I bet R* would need to send a new camera crew to Miami seeing as they haven't been there before or made any game based on that city or anything. Yeah considering Vice City had no resemblance whatsoever to Miami, I think they would. The Vice City is supposed to be a caricature of Miami as seen in movies like Scarface and TV series like Miami Vice, not an actual portrayal of the city, even in the mid 1980s. Certain landmarks were included, yes, but Vice City was never a project to recreate Miami. It's a game: they take the landmarks of a city that they think would benefit the game and throw away the rest. Oh, I'm sorry, my bad. Must've been temporary memory loss. Your an *sshole. You mean, "You're an *sshole"? lol j/k Aren't we all? Anyway, I always find these random new GTAF account guys very reliable. Maybe you're the real deal, but there is simply no way of knowing. Next time post some pics. Yeah because the first thing I think when meeting someone from R* is can I take pictures of you guys so that some dumb*ss on GTA Forums believes me? If you want to be believed then you had damn well better post something that a 13 year old couldn't dream up in five minutes. My line about posting pics is a request for some, any, actual evidence that would suggest that what is claimed is actually true. If the guy is indeed a desk clerk at a hotel where some guys from R* stayed then he would've been able to find out their names and such, but he claims that all he knows is that one guy had a camera around his neck. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059638864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragmetolibertycity Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 He wouldn't been able to take pictures since you know he was working. True or not.......it is nice and interesting. They would send a crew to take pictures again as to see how the city evolved and if they missed anything the first time around. Location managers for film projects take pictures everytime even though they could take reference from other pics. Rockstar is a multi-million dollar company, they have to be thorough. I'm not saying I believe 100% but it is plausible. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059638912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ats. Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Nice find! I really hope it's true though. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059638945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Theft Auto fan Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I'm new here, but I created an account because I wanted to tell you something. I am a desk clerk at a hotel in Miami, and on Tuesday the 10th I met some people who worked for Rockstar. It was only small talk, and we mostly talked about the weather. But luckily, I mentioned GTA4, and that is when I found out. To be totally honest, I really don’t know anything, however…from one of their necks, I noticed a Nikon SLR. I am not sure which exact model it was, but it was way too expensive for a weekend at the beach! Ok, where am I going with this? Well, I don’t think they were on vacation…I think they were working. Don't you remember hearing that Rockstar sends people out to scout the city before they actually start making their game. But then again… I am only a desk clerk. Well, i don't know what to say. This thing may give better chances to that, the location for next GTA would be really Vice City, or they were in Miami just for vacation. I don't know. Maybe Vice City or maybe not. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059638971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*OGM*_2pac Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Don't you remember hearing that Rockstar sends people out to scout the city before they actually start making their game. But then again… I am only a desk clerk. Kinda surprising how a "basic desk clerk" seems to be really (too?) well informed on Rockstar's way of working concerning their past games.... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059639180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincecarterfan Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 I took this picture last night, and I'm not losing my job over this, so I'm done. For everyone else: the truth can never be "known". We either search for it or we create it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059639415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxopower Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I took this picture last night, and I'm not losing my job over this, so I'm done. For everyone else: the truth can never be "known". We either search for it or we create it. Great you took a picture of some dude in front of a pool, now I believe you. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059639426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScratchCard Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I fail to see what it proves, maybe you could tell us what exactly this proves? Anyway, don't mind us not welcoming you with open arms. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059639446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrel Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I'm not going to say i believe this, but if you want to provide us hardcore proof here is what you could do. So did these guys stay at the hotel you work in? Or came into the hotel to take pictures and whatnot. If they stayed at the hotel could you look at the guest list records and see who these men were. I assume you know the date and time of arrival/check in so it shouldn't be hard to find. Then someone can look at the back of GTA manual and see if the names match. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059639448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViceCity09 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Very interesting I sort of believe you, but can you try get us more pictures and some info? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059639480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
major underscore Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I took this picture last night, and I'm not losing my job over this, so I'm done. For everyone else: the truth can never be "known". We either search for it or we create it. Awesome photo. I think at least one of the guys you caught is Harrison Ford (the third guy from the left). Elvis is also visible in the background. Btw, is this some kind of school project you're doing, trying to see how readily people accept claims without evidence? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059639501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicboy Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 hmmm the seagull hotel??? Similar to the seagull theatre would u say?? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059639597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Don't you remember hearing that Rockstar sends people out to scout the city before they actually start making their game. But then again… I am only a desk clerk. Kinda surprising how a "basic desk clerk" seems to be really (too?) well informed on Rockstar's way of working concerning their past games.... No offense, but that doesn't make any sense. Tons of people follow the gaming industry. I was a well informed gamer going back to the days when I was a 'basic stockboy' at a pet food place. I would LOVE to see another VC, but we will never know until the game is close. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059639616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal000 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I took this picture last night, and I'm not losing my job over this, so I'm done. For everyone else: the truth can never be "known". We either search for it or we create it. Awesome photo. I think at least one of the guys you caught is Harrison Ford (the third guy from the left). Elvis is also visible in the background. Btw, is this some kind of school project you're doing, trying to see how readily people accept claims without evidence? You asked for a picture, he gave you a picture. Do you seriously want him to lose his job over trying to give you proof? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059639643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxopower Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I took this picture last night, and I'm not losing my job over this, so I'm done. For everyone else: the truth can never be "known". We either search for it or we create it. Awesome photo. I think at least one of the guys you caught is Harrison Ford (the third guy from the left). Elvis is also visible in the background. Btw, is this some kind of school project you're doing, trying to see how readily people accept claims without evidence? You asked for a picture, he gave you a picture. Do you seriously want him to lose his job over trying to give you proof? I would definitely enjoy it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059639666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
major underscore Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I took this picture last night, and I'm not losing my job over this, so I'm done. For everyone else: the truth can never be "known". We either search for it or we create it. Awesome photo. I think at least one of the guys you caught is Harrison Ford (the third guy from the left). Elvis is also visible in the background. Btw, is this some kind of school project you're doing, trying to see how readily people accept claims without evidence? You asked for a picture, he gave you a picture. Do you seriously want him to lose his job over trying to give you proof? Yes, he gave us a photo showing... what, exactly? Some random dudes hanging out somewhere? That photo could just as well have supported a claim that the next GTA game will be set in any number of cities around the world. I have no reason to believe this guy any more or any less than any other people who make claims here at GTAF supposedly supporting one theory of the next GTA game or another. Of course I don't expect anyone to want to go so far as to risk getting fired from a job, but on the other hand he hasn't shown us anything that would suggest that he's not just playing with you. That's the key here: the burden of proof is on the person making the claim, not on the person who would question the claim. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059639670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
agincourtsalute Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Miami is a good holiday destination so it is possible that R* employees to be there for a holiday or for research. But what I find a bit suspect is that you claimed to have spoken to R* employees at a hotel in Miami but you never asked them if they were researching the city for the next GTA, don't say that you would lose your job for asking them a question. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/432831-epistemology/#findComment-1059639702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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