CharmingCharlie Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 If I thought for one second this was a "driver bug" I would have said so, it clearly isn't a driver bug it is a bug in the shadows and it isn't the first one. Before this patch when Niko was driving a bike there would be a bike shadow but no shadow of Niko driving the bike. I suppose if you had heard about that problem then you would have claimed it was a "driver bug". Now they have fixed that bug and you can see Niko's shadow when he drives a bike but all of a sudden when driving a car between 8pm and 6am there is a shadow of the driver but no shadow from the car. Now come on do you seriously think that is a "driver bug" it seems like one hell of a specific driver bug to me if it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murcchachosa Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 (edited) One more: The road markers floating over the road. Pictures: Picture 1 Picture 2 Picture 3 Picture 4 Could you just post screens on tinyimg or imageshack instead registering? Damnit, this really pisses me off. For everytime they finally fix something, there appear new bugs. WTF are these R* ass-hounds up to??? They seriousley needs to TEST the game BEFORE release! Edited November 13, 2009 by Murcchachosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinz Valium! Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, I have forget this Here are the Screens: Here the problem again: The road markers floating over the road. Greetz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 The car shadows are perfectly fine during the day time after 6am :- As you can see the car clearly casts a shadow on the road and it stays like that :- Then at exactly 8pm game time all the car shadows switches off :- Now does that honestly sound like a "driver bug" to you ? It sounds more like a f*ck up in the game code to me personally and it is damn annoying. However according to you "I shouldn't complain" about these "little things". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murcchachosa Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Lol, time for Title Update 1.0.6.0 then. Alright R*, now get your ass off from MS and fix these bugs. Because the short day/night cyclus its so damn annoying. I mean, you do missions at night and then you looking to that Niko ghost shadow while you have to chase someone and mission failed And for 1000th time, where the heck is the moon? Its not 2012 when NASA has bombed the moon for water. So it cant be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extortionate Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 The car shadows are perfectly fine during the day time after 6am :- As you can see the car clearly casts a shadow on the road and it stays like that :- Then at exactly 8pm game time all the car shadows switches off :- Now does that honestly sound like a "driver bug" to you ? It sounds more like a f*ck up in the game code to me personally and it is damn annoying. However according to you "I shouldn't complain" about these "little things". Well come on. You've now decided to reproduce it a bit more clearer rather than me relying on guess work using stuff like "only seems to be at night". It seems to only happen at 8pm, what about 8.01pm, 8.10? If so, yes it's a very picky much like you're beta testing or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Would you like me to provide a semen and blood sample too ? There have been several users complaining about this issue so I didn't feel it necessary to provide a dissertation on what the actual problem was. However I obviously didn't think you might get a bee in your bonnet about people posting ACTUAL problems with the game, I know silly me eh. How many different ways can I say the same thing ? The car shadows turn off at 8pm game time and turn back on again at 6am game time. Every game day they turn off at 8pm and turn back on again at 6am. It is feasible the game engine might decide on a weekend to have a bit of a lazy day such as in game Sunday it might decide it's a day of rest and not switch them on at all, I don't know. This is clearly a new bug they have introduced when they fixed the bike shadow problem and to be honest I find this bug a hell of a lot more annoying that the bike shadow bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extortionate Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 (edited) Would you like me to provide a semen and blood sample too ? There have been several users complaining about this issue so I didn't feel it necessary to provide a dissertation on what the actual problem was. However I obviously didn't think you might get a bee in your bonnet about people posting ACTUAL problems with the game, I know silly me eh. How many different ways can I say the same thing ? The car shadows turn off at 8pm game time and turn back on again at 6am game time. Every game day they turn off at 8pm and turn back on again at 6am. It is feasible the game engine might decide on a weekend to have a bit of a lazy day such as in game Sunday it might decide it's a day of rest and not switch them on at all, I don't know. This is clearly a new bug they have introduced when they fixed the bike shadow problem and to be honest I find this bug a hell of a lot more annoying that the bike shadow bug. Great, now I can confirm this. However it depends what angle your car is at since you can't always see the shadows and that's why I couldn't find the issue. Edited November 13, 2009 by Extortionate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oc student Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 (edited) The car shadows are perfectly fine during the day time after 6am :- Pics Now does that honestly sound like a "driver bug" to you ? It sounds more like a f*ck up in the game code to me personally and it is damn annoying. However according to you "I shouldn't complain" about these "little things". Well come on. You've now decided to reproduce it a bit more clearer rather than me relying on guess work using stuff like "only seems to be at night". It seems to only happen at 8pm, what about 8.01pm, 8.10? If so, yes it's a very picky much like you're beta testing or something. I'm pretty sure that this bug was in 1040 which I am running right now. I'm also running the Environment Mod 5 which you probably are too so that might be the cause. I'll produce pics later. I'm pretty sure I have never seen this bug without mods and I only recently started noticing it when I installed EM5. EDIT: Actually CC, it is not a "f*ck up in the game code" as you put it, it is a change in the timecycle.dat which I'm 100 percent sure, R* wouldn't change for a patch. I'm pretty sure it is mods now. Edited November 13, 2009 by oc student Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extortionate Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 It's not the mods because I'm not running any on a fresh install after a brand new Windows 7 final install. I'm running the latest patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Yep same here fresh install, no mods I would never update a modded GTA 4 . So right now I am running a vanilla GTA 4 with nothing special added (hell even stopped using xliveless). So it can't be down to mods. I think we can file this in the section that the "motorbike shadow cock up" is filed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimnms Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Fix the damn right mouse button and sprint key. A year and 5 patches later and it's still screwed up. The last patch finally fixed the right mouse button binding under foot controls, but the right mouse button still hangs up the damn phone even after you've bound it to something else. The sprint key doesn't work like it should if bound to left shift, which I think is the default key. It should cause you to run when held down, and sprint when tapped, like in all previous GTA games. However if bound to left shift, you sprint full speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I fired up my ole Duo with 8800gts just now to investigate this shadow issue and believe I know what is going on now. The shadows are apparently "meant" to turn off at 8pm or at least they do on GTA 4 patched to Patch 4. The problem this time is the driver shadow persists after the car shadow has been turned off. So with GTA 4 patched to patch 5 the car shadows cast by the sun turn off at 8pm but the driver shadow does not so you are left with a floating driver shadow. This is probably why I noticed the car shadow vanishing because it looks so damn odd having a driver shadow but no car shadow. This has obviously come about with them messing around trying to get the biker shadow working typical. So since GTA 4's launch there has been no driver shadow in the game (hence you never saw Niko's shadow on the bike). Now with Patch 5 they finally turn on the driver shadow but the game engine doesn't tell the shadow to switch off at night like it does with all the other "sun shadows". I dunno sometimes I just want to shake my head at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigglyass Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 This sh*t looks depressing. They do a good job fixing one area of a problem, but then more problems arise that are = of the old problems. Sh*t sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 With regard to Prinz Valium! graphic glitch, I just noticed I have it too as well. Some of the road decals do appear to be imprinted over wheels and Niko's shoes and the wheels do seem to sink into the road at certain points on the map. This would be funny if it wasn't so damn depressing. With regard to the car shadow turning off at 8pm this is clearly a bug and shouldn't be happening. I have my bro's xbox 360 here so I fired that up with my copy of GTA 4 and the car shadow stays on, it does not switch off on the xbox 360. So the comedy part of this is the driver shadow is working as it should do now but the car shadow never worked properly lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfTimer Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) Thanks to CharmingCharlie and others for all the useful pictures and detailed explanation of these issues. I've been able to easily reproduce all of them. It seems to me that we've indentified 2 new problems that were introduced by Patch 5: Car shadows disappear between 8:00 PM - 6:00 AM (20:00-6:00). Floating street textures. Is the first point an accurate explanation of what is happening? From what I understand, before Patch 1.0.0.4 Niko's shadow was non-existent in vehicles and after it was fixed, the car shadows themselves disappeared at night. In any case, I'll reinstall the game to see how the things looked in 1.0.4.0 and report back to you. Edited November 14, 2009 by OutOfTimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruscris2 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 @OutOfTimer Car shadows disappear between 8:00 PM - 6:00 AM (20:00-6:00). I had this bug in 1.0.3.0 and 1.0.4.0 too ! Seems that this bug is in the game from 1.0.0.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extortionate Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 @OutOfTimer Car shadows disappear between 8:00 PM - 6:00 AM (20:00-6:00).I had this bug in 1.0.3.0 and 1.0.4.0 too ! Seems that this bug is in the game from 1.0.0.0 I've never noticed this, nor my wife and she loves the game, she's just not really picky and enjoys the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 That is the thing though Extortionate this car shadow bug has been in from the start but no one noticed it. The only reason why it got noticed now is down to the fact it looks absolutely ridiculous to have a floating driver shadow because the car shadows turn off. As I have said in the console version the car shadows stay on, it is just the PC car shadows that turn off and I for one believe it should be fixed it is the principle of the matter. The whole point of Liberty City is the "detail" well it doesn't help when the detail keeps getting turned on and off all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfTimer Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 I've just tested everything again and can comfirm that all vehicle shadows disappear at 20:00 regardless if it's Niko's car or anyone else's. Niko's shadow works perfectly on the other hand. You can see his arm when he starts shooting, etc. I hope they'll fix this. It looks ridiculous. I've also found lots of floating textures. They look truely ugly. I have no idea how they managed to screw this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnZS Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I have not noticed the car shadow issue or the floating textures... yet. However I would like to see Patch 6 finally address the issue of car passengers and drivers vanishing beyond a 20 metres or so. It makes sniping drivers etc nigh on impossible. This issue does not occur on the PS3 Also I have noticed that Patch 5 did resolve a lot of the distance texture flashing etc, some of it (and shadow flicker) still remains, it would be nice if this could be finally fixed too Oh and where has the moon been hiding all of this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukee152 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 idk about destructable buildings i mean its still probably a problem still with 9/11 also if u want to destroy buildings play mercenaries 2 also its not really the way gta is with destroying buildings plus u really think that if u launch a missile at a building u would be able to destroy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruscris2 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) Whatever, my game works very good now, but if there will be a Patch 6: --Bugs-- -The moon -Floating textures -Peds Detail Distance for Geforce 7 Series -Peds Car Spawn --Feature-- -In the game directory should be a Folder called "Mods" where we put our Mods and we can Turn On/Off In-Game without to replace any original file.And to make the game read the path of our mod we would rename the mod as "pc-models-cdimages-vehicles.img-admiral.wft" for Example.This would be very good for the PC Modding Community, and we wouldn't need to restore the original files anymore to play Multiplayer. -Multiplayer Free Mode shouldn't be protected. --Extra-- -Some extra FPS are always welcome for my sh*tty PC !! This would be soo cool ! But I am sure they wouldn't bring so much things in a patch (if will be one).Whatever, I am happy with my game how it is now ! (and with the upcoming DLCs ,TLAD and TBOGT) Edited November 14, 2009 by Ruscris2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murcchachosa Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Well, it seems we have to wait AGAIN for another patch. F*cking Cockstar, I really wondering what the hell are they doing. This really cost their reputation. Every patch that comes out, new bugs will appear Imagine how the game will when DLC come out. Besides the graphics, the new bugs. TLad, floating bikes. TBoGT, every man on game has no pants. I really hope they ARE aware of these bugs. Or they atleast can release a patch that fix the driver shadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zotak Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 First and foremost I would like to have atleast an 2xAA option, dunno how could this be implemented, but I want it. Second: fix please the in car peds spawning at 5 feet distance. Third: no dvd in drive required. You can do it dear Rockstar Toronto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-ru Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Just imagine-i start the game it's load more , but when i start paly, i go out on the street, everything, each movement is so smooth , the shadows is great and everything is perffect, i twirl mouse fast and i feel very little blur without missin object or popping up textures then i press esc and in graphic settings i make AA on 4X But R*,they either can not or do not want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e575fho Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 The memory leak is still happening. Rockstar please sort this problem out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermortalhuman Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I would love it if you let ME decide where my video captures go instead of on my C drive buried in the documents folder. I'd use it more if I could edit a text file or something to set captures to save on the other partition. I'm thinking a registry edit won't be enough, and I don't wanna break anything About shadows: Everyone's shadows are visible under the cars (not just Niko's), I can't believe you guys coded the shadows to "turn off when in a vehicle" and that motorcycles didn't have a different routine than the cars *wtf* Moon... Map and Model Modding Tools PLZ. What is available is not good and some of us would rather mod than play the multiplayer offered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I would love it if you let ME decide where my video captures go instead of on my C drive buried in the documents folder. I'd use it more if I could edit a text file or something to set captures to save on the other partition. I'm thinking a registry edit won't be enough, and I don't wanna break anything Why not change the location of the My Documents folder and thus change the drive the My Documents folder is on. I have my OS installed on the C drive which is fairly small and the "My Documents" folder is located on the E drive. To change the location of the my documents folder in windows XP just follow this tutorial :- http://www.watchingthenet.com/change-locat...in-windows.html http://www.dailytechnotes.com/changing-def...dows-vista.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukee152 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Well, it seems we have to wait AGAIN for another patch.F*cking Cockstar, I really wondering what the hell are they doing. This really cost their reputation. Every patch that comes out, new bugs will appear Imagine how the game will when DLC come out. Besides the graphics, the new bugs. TLad, floating bikes. TBoGT, every man on game has no pants. I really hope they ARE aware of these bugs. Or they atleast can release a patch that fix the driver shadows. i think its because they are putting all or most of their effort into other games right now like la noir i mean the trailer was out in 2005 and the game is not out yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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