_Charger_ Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 (edited) Yeah i thought that too, but i looked in the scripts and didn't found that. Then i thought it could be in the texture itself but i found nothing. I'm not sure how to script a new map, because if u only change the mapfiles and the texture of the radar, the hole game will not work... EDIT: maybe i found it. every part of the map (e.g. bronx_e.img) has an *.ide file. i'm not sure but it looks like a list of objects and their coordinates. Edited April 2, 2010 by _Charger_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj jazzy death Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Yeah i thought that too, but i looked in the scripts and didn't found that. Then i thought it could be in the texture itself but i found nothing. I'm not sure how to script a new map, because if u only change the mapfiles and the texture of the radar, the hole game will not work... I was talking about if someone could script it, i didnt mean that it would be there already . But anyway someone will figure this out later because like Six Paths of Pain said, it will be a while before he can finish the map anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Charger_ Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 No it is in the game for the current map xD but it has to be changed. and thats probably hard to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six Paths of Pain Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 Yes there WILL be a downtown Broker, that is one of the main reasons i enlarged broker and dukes, and there will be a Throgsneck and Bronx-Whitestone bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EncryptedReality Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Good work so far ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Charger_ Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 do u have a picture which shows how far your work is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six Paths of Pain Posted April 3, 2010 Author Share Posted April 3, 2010 Thanks for all the support! ill post some pics later tonight, i started Alderneys street layout and will be starting on the the elevated highways/roads and bridge tunnel approaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six Paths of Pain Posted April 3, 2010 Author Share Posted April 3, 2010 Thanks for all the support! ill post some pics later tonight, i started Alderneys street layout and will be starting on the the elevated highways/roads and bridge tunnel approaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Charger_ Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 okay cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj jazzy death Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Thanks for all the support! ill post some pics later tonight, i started Alderneys street layout and will be starting on the the elevated highways/roads and bridge tunnel approaches Your welcome Six Paths of Pain, but thank you for making this mod. With this mod i might be able to recreate I am Legend machinima in GTA4, and ofcourse all credit would go to Six Paths and GTARandom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Charger_ Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Thanks for all the support! ill post some pics later tonight, i started Alderneys street layout and will be starting on the the elevated highways/roads and bridge tunnel approaches Your welcome Six Paths of Pain, but thank you for making this mod. With this mod i might be able to recreate I am Legend machinima in GTA4, and ofcourse all credit would go to Six Paths and GTARandom. Yeah right. thanks for the mod. my "dream" is that gta IV is like new york. editing textures, that it looks like new york isn't so hard but the map... respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbo0 Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Hi Six Paths of Pain, First of all, I would like to show my enthusiasm because this mod is really the BEST that could ever happen to GTA IV! I'm the creator of the GTA IV Snow Mod, so I know how hard it is to make such a mod. The Snow Mod was only replacing textures and some coding, but what you're planning to do is really stunning! I really hope this mod never dies! Maybe some suggestions: - Make sure that Algonquin is not too small, maybe it would be an idea to scale that up a little to? Because, looking at the first screenshots, it looks lik the Empire State Building is at the corner of Ground Zero, and I think it's a little ulrealistic. So stretching Algonquin up might be a good idea.. - Try to create real avenues, like Park avenue with the right amount of lanes. In GTA IV, park ave has only one lane in each direction, in the NYC it's 5 lanes in each direction if i'm not wrong, so maybe you could also make some more? Like 2 or 3. - Make a 'country' part, with lots of nature, you could use Staten Island or the Bronx for that... I've been to NYC for many many times, and I have thousands of photos of it, also a lot of Staten Island. If you need some photos to get an idea of what to see and to create in your mod, just give me a 'call' here on the forum or in PM, I will post all the photos you need directly! I would like to help you with the mod, but I'm not so good at modelling, only on texturing and some coding, but anyway, if you need some help, you may always ask, and if i'm capable of it, I will help you! Some questions, is it possible to make GTA IV bigger? Isn't that something that is determinated by Rockstar Games? And are there already tools to import new maps, etc? So if you need information on ANYTHING about NYC or you need some pictures,... just ask me, and I will give it to you! Six Paths of Pain, you're making a damn big mod, but if he ever gets online, it will be the best mod EVER made for a Grand Theft Auto serie! I'm sure of that! Keep us up to date with screenshots, or maybe an ingame screenshot? Any idea when you can start on that? I wish you the best luck! jumbo0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj jazzy death Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 (edited) lol what happened to the pictures ? I joke, u take ur time. Just one question will firefly Island be seperate from Broker or something like that? thanks. Edited April 3, 2010 by dj jazzy death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Charger_ Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Some questions, is it possible to make GTA IV bigger? Isn't that something that is determinated by Rockstar Games? And are there already tools to import new maps, etc? Hi i'm not sure but all objects and all streets are placed in the game with coordinates. to change the map (only the textures, map-archives and the radar) isn't hard, but all coordinates have to be changed. when it's bigger there are new coordinates. I'm realy not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj jazzy death Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 (edited) Hi Six Paths of Pain, First of all, I would like to show my enthusiasm because this mod is really the BEST that could ever happen to GTA IV! I'm the creator of the GTA IV Snow Mod, so I know how hard it is to make such a mod. The Snow Mod was only replacing textures and some coding, but what you're planning to do is really stunning! I really hope this mod never dies! Maybe some suggestions: - Make sure that Algonquin is not too small, maybe it would be an idea to scale that up a little to? Because, looking at the first screenshots, it looks lik the Empire State Building is at the corner of Ground Zero, and I think it's a little ulrealistic. So stretching Algonquin up might be a good idea.. - Try to create real avenues, like Park avenue with the right amount of lanes. In GTA IV, park ave has only one lane in each direction, in the NYC it's 5 lanes in each direction if i'm not wrong, so maybe you could also make some more? Like 2 or 3. - Make a 'country' part, with lots of nature, you could use Staten Island or the Bronx for that... I've been to NYC for many many times, and I have thousands of photos of it, also a lot of Staten Island. If you need some photos to get an idea of what to see and to create in your mod, just give me a 'call' here on the forum or in PM, I will post all the photos you need directly! I would like to help you with the mod, but I'm not so good at modelling, only on texturing and some coding, but anyway, if you need some help, you may always ask, and if i'm capable of it, I will help you! Some questions, is it possible to make GTA IV bigger? Isn't that something that is determinated by Rockstar Games? And are there already tools to import new maps, etc? So if you need information on ANYTHING about NYC or you need some pictures,... just ask me, and I will give it to you! Six Paths of Pain, you're making a damn big mod, but if he ever gets online, it will be the best mod EVER made for a Grand Theft Auto serie! I'm sure of that! Keep us up to date with screenshots, or maybe an ingame screenshot? Any idea when you can start on that? I wish you the best luck! jumbo0 1. Ya the Empire State Building is kinda off (ESB being on 5th Avenue near 34th St., in GTA 4 it is on the 7th Ave equivalent.) 2. Park Ave is 3 lanes in each direction before 97th St. (After that it is one or two lanes because of the viaduct). Edited April 3, 2010 by dj jazzy death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbo0 Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 1. Ya the Empire State Building is kinda off (ESB being on 5th Avenue near 42nd St., in GTA 4 it is on the 7th Ave equivalent.) 2. Park Ave is 3 lanes in each direction before 97th St. (After that it is one or two lanes because of the viaduct). ESB is on 5th ave and 34th street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj jazzy death Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 1. Ya the Empire State Building is kinda off (ESB being on 5th Avenue near 42nd St., in GTA 4 it is on the 7th Ave equivalent.) 2. Park Ave is 3 lanes in each direction before 97th St. (After that it is one or two lanes because of the viaduct). ESB is on 5th ave and 34th street lol just 8 blocks off, thanks i kind of forgot, its been a while since i been there, and google maps is not working so ya... Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six Paths of Pain Posted April 4, 2010 Author Share Posted April 4, 2010 Sorry for that lac of pics........ i stretched Algonquin by a block, but i might stretch it by another block or 2, the Empire State building is currently 4 blocks away from the new world trade center, so there is a good chance i will separate the two a little further to give Algonquin that midtown and lower-manhattan feel, in GTA IV they seemed to blend together, (jumbo0) I've been to NYC plenty also but i haven't taken nearly enough pictures, but i would be delighted for you to help, as texturing is the ONE thing i suck at!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj jazzy death Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Sorry for that lac of pics........ i stretched Algonquin by a block, but i might stretch it by another block or 2, the Empire State building is currently 4 blocks away from the new world trade center, so there is a good chance i will separate the two a little further to give Algonquin that midtown and lower-manhattan feel, in GTA IV they seemed to blend together, (jumbo0) I've been to NYC plenty also but i haven't taken nearly enough pictures, but i would be delighted for you to help, as texturing is the ONE thing i suck at!!! U mean u have added another block? If u extend algonquin by another block or 2 will u be adding 6th Ave? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbo0 Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 (edited) Sorry for that lac of pics........ i stretched Algonquin by a block, but i might stretch it by another block or 2, the Empire State building is currently 4 blocks away from the new world trade center, so there is a good chance i will separate the two a little further to give Algonquin that midtown and lower-manhattan feel, in GTA IV they seemed to blend together, (jumbo0) I've been to NYC plenty also but i haven't taken nearly enough pictures, but i would be delighted for you to help, as texturing is the ONE thing i suck at!!! Ok sounds good! I just think it will be more New York if Algonquin is a little bigger! Ok, I can help you with the textures. I can also make some buildings in Sketchup if you want, I'm pretty good with that (except texturing in Sketchup). Just let me know, I will help you! jumbo0 EDIT: I just made the new WTC, called 'Freedom Tower', in sketchup, but without textures for now, just the model. Edited April 4, 2010 by jumbo0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Charger_ Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 i work with another 3d-programm maybe i can learn sketchup very fast, then i could help u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj jazzy death Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Im gonna try and learn how to use sketchup so i can help, i already have sketchup 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Charger_ Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 any new information how far the work on the map is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthMUFC-Champs Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Six Paths of Pain do you think you will get this finished and how long will it take because this is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Goose Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I don't normally go to this section, but this topic looks very ambitious and I wish the best of luck. What neighbourhoods will you be adding to fill in the extra space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six Paths of Pain Posted April 7, 2010 Author Share Posted April 7, 2010 the project will take a LONG time unfortunately........ ass far as the neighborhoods, i don't know yet but i will be including much more location real from NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Goose Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I don't have GTA IV PC, but I'm still interested in this. Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTREME0235 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I really, honestly support you in this mod 6PofPain, but there is one major thing that i am not sure about, and especially with such a big map mod like this, is collisions. Hbx84 is currently working on his 2nd Beta of his WTC mod with GTARandom [you may or may not know] and even his first beta [released for download here: Hbx84's World Trade Center IV mod.] does not contain collisions as the buildings that he has removed in order for the space, are still there. Not to mention that when the so called pivot for the tower goes out of view, that part of the building disappears from view. Plus, when you go far enough away from the buildings, they appear/turn black. Look, all i'm saying is that you might have to do a lot of thinking here, Hbx84 & GTA Random are only just figuring out collisions at this stage, and Hbx84 i believe stated that he has figured out the black appearance glitch that happens. But all in all, i support you and this mod and wish you the best of luck and hope it never dies. You might be going with this [maybe release your first beta] when GTA V [5] is released. Maybe the end of 2011, who knows. But 6PofPain, please, do not let this mod die down, not now or in a few months at least. You have made it this far, don't stop now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj jazzy death Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 So Six Paths of Pain, do u have any new pics? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Charger_ Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 (edited) ...Hbx84 is currently working on his 2nd Beta of his WTC mod with GTARandom [you may or may not know] and even his first beta does not contain collisions as the buildings that he has removed in order for the space, are still there. Not to mention that when the so called pivot for the tower goes out of view, that part of the building disappears from view. Plus, when you go far enough away from the buildings, they appear/turn black. ... Hey Six Paths of Pain changes the whole map, so he can delete every thing from the old map and replace it. if there is a collision solution soon, he should be able to get this mod working. maybe someone can make textures for his buildings when he finished one part of NYC and he can release a beta. i don't know that, but i'm sure that mapmodding will be work fine soon. @ Six Paths of Pain any new information, pictures or something else? or how far are u now with the map? Edited April 8, 2010 by _Charger_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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