Not f-in' London

[mattymcs]

London has everything for a GTA game. Everything. And only when/if it's made will all the naysayers and doubters believe it.

[reform]

Oh I've been there. It's pretty nice.

There are some dope dealers who try to sell you marijuana

Can't really make a good story of that.

So of course when you went to New York you saw someone pulled from the cab in front of you, and shot in the face, in the middle of a busy Times Square.

[itsonelouder]

I agree. I live in London and look outside at the dreary place it is. The weather is dreadful at the moment. It holds a special place in my heart but I want a game where I can escape and I think GTA won't be the same unless it's in the US.

 

Vice City next please!

[reform]

London would be a fantastic place for a new GTA, and I don't really have a problem with it happening some day.

 

However, the main problem London has is that GTA has always been flooded with jokes, and parodies based on American popular culture.

[mattymcs]

London would be a fantastic place for a new GTA, and I don't really have a problem with it happening some day.

 

However, the main problem London has is that GTA has always been flooded with jokes, and parodies based on American popular culture.

That would unquestionably be the biggest change, but it's something they could work round. They would just have to parody british culture, they could still use the same methods it would just be a different target.

 

I'd actually like to see a game with London and Paris personally, think that would be interesting.

[cartoonlyon]

 

 

However, the main problem London has is that GTA has always been flooded with jokes, and parodies based on American popular culture.

So?

 

Script writers may love it, how many GTAs have been in the US now? 4-5?? Would give them a chance to write fresh stuff rather than trying to to milk the last drops out of the US without ending up repeating themes. Most of them have played on Western culture anyhow not just american.

 

 

I don't think it'll be in London anyway, i mean just look at all the British accents in TBoGT! for a few hours playing that i didn't hear a single american accent apart from Luis' and Tonys!

 

Nor do i want to see it in London, GTA:JA i want to see!

[brewhead17]

In LC girls were already ugly (just look at Joni, and how she was supposed to look aka as in artwork?), i just can't imagine how girls of London will look, if in reality they're so.. like in LC.

 

 

 

So let me get this straight, you just claimed that the girls are ugly in a huge multicultural, multi racial city of around 11 million people, based on a completely unfound and ignorant stereotype? Wow your an absloute genius, please teach me more of your infinate wisdom and knowledge of the world outside of the windowless box you obviously live in?

[MitchJ90]

Never London, would be horrible.

[MitchJ90]

 

London has everything for a GTA game. Everything. And only when/if it's made will all the naysayers and doubters believe it.

Except guns lol.

 

Oops double post.

Edited December 4, 2009 by MitchJ90

[Tipper]

 

London has everything for a GTA game. Everything. And only when/if it's made will all the naysayers and doubters believe it.

Except guns lol.

 

Oops double post.

There are guns everywhere, including London. And even if it wasn't the case, nothing would prevent R* from including guns in their fictional London.

 

 

Never London, would be horrible.

 

Arguments?

[Algonquin Bridge]

 

London has everything for a GTA game. Everything. And only when/if it's made will all the naysayers and doubters believe it.

Except guns lol.

 

Oops double post.

Gee, no guns in London. I guess the criminals there just run around with baseball bats and use only their bare fists and knives to commit crimes?

 

Yes, it's incredibly difficult for normal citizens to own a gun. However, Criminals consider themselves outside the law, remember, hence their committing of crimes with guns. And as for the police? Loads of gun-toting coppers in Central London.

 

I suggest you read this post and educate yourself on the particular section entitled: "Criminals: Break Laws!!! Including Gun Laws."

 

And as stated by Tipper, would you care to share your arguments? so we can just hurl bits of the fabulous London Dossier at you?

[General Goose]

Yeah, there won't be AmmuNation in London.

 

But, then again, GTA IV got perfectly well with guns needing to be brought outside the law.

[Lizard_King]

GTA IV didn't have Ammunation... London could just have backroom dealers and friend contacts to sell you guns. It's just a location, it's not like R* would apply every law in the UK to GTA, they just use it for it's atmosphere and features and make a loosely based, fictional city out of it.

[General Goose]

GTA IV didn't have Ammunation... London could just have backroom dealers and friend contacts to sell you guns. It's just a location, it's not like R* would apply every law in the UK to GTA, they just use it for it's atmosphere and features and make a loosely based, fictional city out of it.

My point exactly. It worked in "NYC", it can work in London.

[woody242]

I think they should do london one day, as it has much crime, And maybe not just London, by the the time I hope they do make it they'll be able to add three citys, with some country side in between them all. And add a bit of the Isle of white of shore the huge prison on it. Why I would'nt like them to make it the next one is 'cos it is quite alot like NYC. Grey Buildings, some landmarks, some rough areas. About all the same.

[Tipper]

For having visited both London and NY, I can assure you they are two completely different cities. The main difference is culture, american and european cultures are quite different and you can feel it pretty easily when in NYC or London, they just feel very different. Another difference is that London, except the City, isn't filled with skyscrapers, it is a different architecture. The only thing they have in common is the "greyish" feeling, but the "color" isn't the only thing to take account of. And even the color can be very different, while NY remains grey even when the sun is shining, London doesn't.

 

Going from the amercian culture to the british/european culture is IMO enough of a change. In fact, i think London would feel more different from NY than Miami would.

[grope_4_that_date]

 

The only thing they have in common is the "greyish" feeling

I remember when playing the Playboy missions, his missions would always feel different. Then I realized it's because of his bright, red sweatshirt. i know it sounds stupid, but GTA needs more color like this

 

[Mister Beastly]

Thing is about that, the first San Andreas was actually just Los Santos if you look at the map

Actually it was San Fransisco

[Interrobangin]

It’d be a waste to do London and not focus on the Russian mob there, but it’d be bland doing it so soon after IV. If it had to be London, I’d like to see it later rather than sooner.

[Alex-AR]

If a future game was to be set in London, how would the gameplay area be restricted? invisible barriers, by an endless ocean... London would be weird if it were an island.

[Cilogy]

If a future game was to be set in London, how would the gameplay area be restricted? invisible barriers, by an endless ocean... London would be weird if it were an island.

and Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Las Vegas are not weird as islands?

 

You have to consider this. When a player reaches the "end" of a map, would he rather see countryside/city/towns blocked off by an invisible barrier or just an endless ocean? I bet they would pick the ocean, simply because when you see the ocean you're like "ok this is the map's end" but when you see an invisible barrier blocking you from countryside and landscape far off in the distance you feel more disappointed and you wish that you could travel to those locations.

 

 

I know I will be attacked by noobs after saying this, but London and New York City are too similar to be in consecutive GTA games. The only way London would work is if GTA4 was set in London and not Liberty City, OR if Rockstar makes London the setting maybe 2 or 3 games from now.

 

In fact I think it would be great to have the next generation GTA in London, but for now, moving to a different-looking location is key. It doesn't matter if its VC or SA or even a new city, it has to be different in appearance and feel.

[Tipper]

 

In fact I think it would be great to have the next generation GTA in London, but for now, moving to a different-looking location is key. It doesn't matter if its VC or SA or even a new city, it has to be different in appearance and feel.

 

London looks and feels as different from NY as Miami, LA, SF and LV.

 

First two pics are photos I took when in NY and London, other four found with google :

 

NY : http://www.noelshack.com/up/aac/newyork%28...-b9b32bc716.jpg

 

London : http://www.noelshack.com/up/aac/londres200...9-df563e5a4.jpg

 

Miami : http://www.unc.edu/euce/newsletter/images/...iami-street.jpg

 

LA : http://www.guillaumew.fr/public/etats-unis...es-downtown.jpg

 

SF : http://www.photoway.com/images/californie/...n-francisco.jpg

 

LV : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Vegas_strip.jpg

 

 

All these cities are very different from each other IMO.

Edited December 6, 2009 by Tipper

[ViceCityFTW]

I thin London could work...i mean any big city in the world can become GTA city...so can London,but i would HATE it...i cant stand their accent and arhitecture...gray city with no scyscrapers...no i dont want it and that is my opinion.But it sure would work bit i think it would lose that GTA vibe...And someone on this tread said London is bigger then LA and Chicago combined HAHAHA jea right.Metropolitan area of London-8mill,Chicago-10 mill,La-nearly 17 mill...soo NO its not bigger but city itself is very well known and could be included in GTA universe

[General Goose]

I thin London could work...i mean any big city in the world can become GTA city...so can London,but i would HATE it...i cant stand their accent and arhitecture...gray city with no scyscrapers...no i dont want it and that is my opinion.But it sure would work bit i think it would lose that GTA vibe...And someone on this tread said London is bigger then LA and Chicago combined HAHAHA jea right.Metropolitan area of London-8mill,Chicago-10 mill,La-nearly 17 mill...soo NO its not bigger but city itself is very well known and could be included in GTA universe

You moronic twat. I hate it when folk use the "accent" argument, especially when there are so many accents. You're probably thinking of either cockney or Reserved Pronounciation, and they are fairly rare amongst the variety of accents. No skyscrapers? *facepalm*

 

And the LA and Chicago argument is technically true. I'm guessing they were referring to cities. And anyway, London is 7 to 8 mil, # the metro area of London is 12 to 13 mil (with the "urban" pop of 8 to 9 mil), not 8 mil, LA is 3 mil with a metro area of 13, Chicago has 3 mil with a metro pop of 10 mil. The actual city is bigger but the combined metro area is not (and did we see the whole NYC metro area in IV?)

 

Anyway, this annoyed me. You relied on the City data for your facts on London, yet the Metro and CSA pops for Chicago and LA. Either a stupid mistake or you were manipulating the figures.

 

Now, Chicago and LA will work, but your argument is one of the worst I've seen.

[supermortalhuman]

if you go look at individual details of LA, SF, and LV and Miami, you will see that if they got Liberty wrong, they definitely got the others way wrong as well.

 

If they redid liberty for the reasons they said they did (and not just said it because of crybabies which is the actual factual reason they said that), then the same holds true for VC and SA.

 

They definitely did just as badly on the subsequent games as they did with LCIII, Miami's excuse will be that it was way too small and innaccurate, with the only accuracy being the over-all layout, which was way off the moment you zoomed in (radar map was shaped like miami, that's about it)

 

SA's excuse will be that it was underused and they didn't have a realistic way to give out DLC at the time to use the "wasted space".

 

They lied about the limo in the trailer, and they lied about the reason they did NYC again which is okay, really, considering who they were speaking to with those statements

[General Goose]

The thing was, Liberty City in III did not bear any real resemblance to NYC aside from the generic East Coast feeling. VC and SA at least got the basic versions of the city and several landmarks done, and is recognisable in many ways.

[ObsydianRaven]

You moronic twat. I hate it when folk use the "accent" argument, especially when there are so many accents. You're probably thinking of either cockney or Reserved Pronounciation, and they are fairly rare amongst the variety of accents. No skyscrapers? *facepalm*

 

And the LA and Chicago argument is technically true. I'm guessing they were referring to cities. And anyway, London is 7 to 8 mil, # the metro area of London is 12 to 13 mil (with the "urban" pop of 8 to 9 mil), not 8 mil, LA is 3 mil with a metro area of 13, Chicago has 3 mil with a metro pop of 10 mil. The actual city is bigger but the combined metro area is not (and did we see the whole NYC metro area in IV?)

 

Anyway, this annoyed me. You relied on the City data for your facts on London, yet the Metro and CSA pops for Chicago and LA. Either a stupid mistake or you were manipulating the figures.

 

Now, Chicago and LA will work, but your argument is one of the worst I've seen.

Well said Goose.

[TheBruceter]

How can anyone mention anything about accents in the game, when in IV we're in America, but the first area we're introduced to they speak Russian.. lol

 

Guess what, thats how they'd do it.. areas split into 'gangs.' In GTA IV every so often i hear a Scottish guy saying 'f*cking donkey', so just because its set in one country, doesn't mean its only gonna be 1 accent.. lol

[ViceCityFTW]

I thin London could work...i mean any big city in the world can become GTA city...so can London,but i would HATE it...i cant stand their accent and arhitecture...gray city with no scyscrapers...no i dont want it and that is my opinion.But it sure would work bit i think it would lose that GTA vibe...And someone on this tread said London is bigger then LA and Chicago combined HAHAHA jea right.Metropolitan area of London-8mill,Chicago-10 mill,La-nearly 17 mill...soo NO its not bigger but city itself is very well known and could be included in GTA universe

 

You moronic twat. I hate it when folk use the "accent" argument, especially when there are so many accents. You're probably thinking of either cockney or Reserved Pronounciation, and they are fairly rare amongst the variety of accents. No skyscrapers? *facepalm*

 

And the LA and Chicago argument is technically true. I'm guessing they were referring to cities. And anyway, London is 7 to 8 mil, # the metro area of London is 12 to 13 mil (with the "urban" pop of 8 to 9 mil), not 8 mil, LA is 3 mil with a metro area of 13, Chicago has 3 mil with a metro pop of 10 mil. The actual city is bigger but the combined metro area is not (and did we see the whole NYC metro area in IV?)

 

Anyway, this annoyed me. You relied on the City data for your facts on London, yet the Metro and CSA pops for Chicago and LA. Either a stupid mistake or you were manipulating the figures.

 

Now, Chicago and LA will work, but your argument is one of the worst I've seen.

 

 

Listen first of all dont call me moronic twat(God i hate that fuc.king word)cos you dont know me,and you dont have the right to call me that.It just shows how you British dumb f*cks are full of yourself.You aint f*cking interesting!!!!Your accent sucks and everybody outside of that f*cking island of yours HATE it.I would rather have any other big city in the world just not f-in London and GB bcs its just that you as a nation are soo annoying,your weather sucks and that idea about football gangs hahahah what are you kiddin???People in US dont know sh*t about football gangs and fukin pubs so for you in GB we should have extra cool english football gangs??GTFOH...And for number it was mistake...http://www.worldatlas.com/citypops.htm here look up...

[General Goose]

Sorry about the moronic twat, just ignorance annoys me. Which you have shown again. And the rest of your post proves that you ARE a moronic sh*thead (see, didn't use twat. You feel better now?) as you use unfair ignorant stereotypes (is GTA in America all SoCal/Texan accents and McDonalds?) and believe me, British crime is so much more then football gangs, but, hey, ignorant misguided f*cks can't have their opinions changed.

 

"That idea about football gangs"?

 

What idea about football gangs?

 

"People in US dont know sh*t about football gangs and fukin pubs so for you in GB we should have extra cool english football gangs??"

 

There's more to Britain then pubs and football gangs, just like there's more to America then McDonald's and Mafia families. We have as varied a cuisine scene and as varied a crime scene then the most diverse American city (the only major international gang not well represented in Britain is the Mafia. Biker gangs, Triads, Bratvas, street gangs, smugglers...). You showed such astounding ignorance and f*ckheadedness I find it hard to argue this point. It's THAT retarded.

 

"Your accent sucks and everybody outside of that f*cking island of yours HATE it."

 

We have accentS. Emphasis on the 's', signifying it is a plural. I may not be a big fan of some American accents, but I don't group it as one and say I hate it. And you say everyone outside of Britain hates us? Maybe so, but (and I hate to say this because most Americans here are great people) America is MUCH more hated internationally. We're more popular then France in your country and more popular in America in, say, the Middle East and anyway, since when was international support (such an inaccurate piece of bullsh*t anyway) a fair way of deciding what the next GTA should be in?

 

So you hate Britain? Top tip: R* North AND R* Leeds are British. GTA is British. So you hate GTA? GTFO then.

 

'It just shows how you British dumb f*cks are full of yourself.You aint f*cking interesting!!!!'

 

Yes, because a Brit responding to ignorance and racism just demonstrates the mindset of everyone in Britain from Aberdeen to Cornwall. -__-