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i kinda look like tasmania turned sideways Shifty41s_beerhatsmilie2.gif i reckon it will probably be in Australia which i think would be effin awesome with our asian and lebanese and italian gangs

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Just watch Layer Cake and tell me London wouldn't be an excellent location for GTA. Mix that movie's classier side of the criminal underworld with the capers of Guy Ritchie's criminals and you have some awesome potential for GTA. London's age alone makes it a really interesting location from a visual standpoint.

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I think it's time to face the facts: There is simply no way that the heads of Rockstar (even regardless of the fact that they are mostly British and the game is created in scotland) could make a gta game in a foreign setting post-GTA III *even if they wanted to* because lazlow and his production team are now effectively part of the writing staff in NYC and they can only do what they do because they have all collectively worked in American media (tv, radio, film) for decades.

 

It's just not possible to take take on a load of new people in the creative devision with primary experience in the British media for just one game and have half of your creative team trying to guesstimate what life is like thousands of miles away across the atlantic.

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You people talking sh*t about stuff you know nothing about, you're so funny. But not in a good way.

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You people talking sh*t about stuff you know nothing about, you're so funny. But not in a good way.

They even have their own sound studios in NYC: are they really going to fly the entire cast (including the hundreds of ped voices) over from London and pay their flights and living costs - I think not.

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Rockstar can set the game anywhere they want. Lazlow stopped being good in San Andreas. they don't really need him at all. He's just a radio DJ, and not a very good one anymore...

 

GTA isn't all about satire and making fun of the United States, and they can make fun of where ever they go.

 

Only reason I'm not behind London is because Getaway 3. So right now I'm hoping for Tokyo (unlikely) or Las Vegas.

 

Las Venturas was a terrible representation of Vegas, not only was half the casinos missing, but they didn't include interiors for most of the existing casinos!

 

I've been to Las Vegas, 90% of the coolness is how vast the insides of the casinos are, and how many of them are actually interconnected biggrin.gif

 

 

 

 

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Rockstar can set the game anywhere they want. Lazlow stopped being good in San Andreas. they don't really need him at all. He's just a radio DJ, and not a very good one anymore...

 

GTA isn't all about satire and making fun of the United States, and they can make fun of where ever they go.

 

Only reason I'm not behind London is because Getaway 3. So right now I'm hoping for Tokyo (unlikely) or Las Vegas.

 

Las Venturas was a terrible representation of Vegas, not only was half the casinos missing, but they didn't include interiors for most of the existing casinos!

 

I've been to Las Vegas, 90% of the coolness is how vast the insides of the casinos are, and how many of them are actually interconnected biggrin.gif

The Getaway 3 was cancelled almost 2 years ago. They are now saying it's "on hold" along with"eight days" but thats just pr. The Getaway is just awful - it puts me right off the idea of a gta london just thinking about it.

 

Edit: Lazlow and Dan Houser co-write a lot of the radio dialogue, tv/radio ads, indents, ped dialogue, etc - like him or loave him you can't deny that he is vitally important to the creative process.

 

It's logistically imposible, as much as I would rather have a gta london or gta tokyo than vice city again.

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As people have said, especially over the past decade, films have been brought out and shown uk life.

Football Factory, Green Street, Layer Cake etc. It could happen and these would be probably the films R* would choose to follow smile.gif

I would prefer it up in Glasgow or something, look at last night. Rangers fans cause a riot in Europe, yet again tounge.gif

 

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I think it's time to face the facts: There is simply no way that the heads of Rockstar (even regardless of the fact that they are mostly British and the game is created in scotland) could make a gta game in a foreign setting post-GTA III *even if they wanted to* because lazlow and his production team are now effectively part of the writing staff in NYC and they can only do what they do because they have all collectively worked in American media (tv, radio, film) for decades.

 

It's just not possible to take take on a load of new people in the creative devision with primary experience in the British media for just one game and have half of your creative team trying to guesstimate what life is like thousands of miles away across the atlantic.

Guanxi, you've said so many incorrect things in your posts its hard to know where to start.

 

Of course R* could set a game in London. They said prior to the announcement of IV that they were 'looking outside of America' for the next one. Obviously they changed their mind, but that certainly doesn't mean the idea is out the window altogether.

 

R* are headed up by Brits and have two British divisons. There would be a lot more involvement of British staff if they did go down the London route. But these are staff that are already employed by R*. You may be unaware that the 'Stories' games and the recent Chinatown wars games were actually developed by R* Leeds.

 

 

As for voices, why on earth would they fly people to New York when they can record over here? Even if they did have to fly over 'the entire cast' to NY, that wouldn't even be an issue. You are talking about a game that will cost $100m+ to make!

 

Lazlow does have a lot of involvement with GTA's, but that doesn't mean they are restricted to using him. He would probably be involved still just in a lesser way.

 

There is no problem with logistics here whatsoever. Saying its 'logistically impossible' is plain wrong.

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London would be f*cking awesome with some R* magic. Imagine a videogame-manifestation of all the Guy Ritchie movies like Lock Stock, Snatch, RocknRolla... there is so much good material to use in Britain. You guys saying there isn't any crime in London wouldn't know anything anyways, but there are a ton of ethnic gangs and mobs like any other major city. R* doesn't need statistics and numbers about crime rates to decide where to put GTA, they pick cities with special atmospheres and vibes to fit the characters they make. Also... R* doesn't have any more interesting American cities to put the game in that they haven't used already. Liberty City has been done like 5 times now and is beat to sh*t. I'm sick of Vice City; I think most of us got our fill of it and it only works well when coupled with the 80s. Apart from the beaches and ocean, the city/urban areas of Vice City are really boring and dull. I guess I wouldn't mind another SA but it feels too early to be remaking it already. Unless they just pick one of the 3 cities in it and make it bigger/more detailed, but I doubt they will do that either

I think exactly the same.

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To the people saying R* can't do it in London, such as Guanxi, because they are NYC-based: bullsh*t. R* North and R* Leeds (basically the programmers behind all GTA) are British. They will have experience and knowledge of British culture. And to the whole "they'll need to fly over the cast": bullsh*t. They get a new cast. Same is in every GTA. Same with the peds. They won't bring peds over from America to voice BRITISH PEDESTRIANS. There may be an American ped or two, but they'll do the same thing that British peds have done: hop on a motherf*cking plane, fly over.

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To the people saying R* can't do it in London, such as Guanxi, because they are NYC-based: bullsh*t. R* North and R* Leeds (basically the programmers behind all GTA) are British. They will have experience and knowledge of British culture. And to the whole "they'll need to fly over the cast": bullsh*t. They get a new cast. Same is in every GTA. Same with the peds. They won't bring peds over from America to voice BRITISH PEDESTRIANS. There may be an American ped or two, but they'll do the same thing that British peds have done: hop on a motherf*cking plane, fly over.

Whilst I agree with your post for the most part, he means flying over British voice actors to the US to do the voices. Which as I pointed out is wrong anyway - the voices would be done over here.

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an also i dont think i could handle that annoyin accent that london people have so i hope its not set there devil.gif  devil.gif  devil.gif  devil.gif  devil.gif

Let me ask you first. Do you even know there is more then one accent in London?

 

I seriously doubt that, nor do I think you can name any of them.

 

 

Until then, you opinion on that matter is void.

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You guys realise that Grand Theft Auto originated in Britain right? I mean the original development (not the game setting).

 

 

And they should set it in Scotland. It could have a Trainspotting feel to it.

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but imagine the little streets and the small cars how annoying there would be no mad cars like in gta 4 just little mr bean looking cars

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but imagine the little streets and the small cars how annoying there would be no mad cars like in gta 4 just little mr bean looking cars

I've seen some undeducated and ignorant posts in this topic but this one really takes the biscuit. lol.gif

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To the people saying R* can't do it in London, such as Guanxi, because they are NYC-based: bullsh*t. R* North and R* Leeds (basically the programmers behind all GTA) are British. They will have experience and knowledge of British culture. And to the whole "they'll need to fly over the cast": bullsh*t. They get a new cast. Same is in every GTA. Same with the peds. They won't bring peds over from America to voice BRITISH PEDESTRIANS. There may be an American ped or two, but they'll do the same thing that British peds have done: hop on a motherf*cking plane, fly over.

Goose I knew i could count on you! icon14.gif

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What I would find interesting is the mixture of old and new buildings. It's like there's the sheen of the modern age but underneath is burried these creepy, foggy alleyways and cobbled streets.

God, there's so much potential for an amazing game. But it shouldn't be called London.

Have one big city (London) and lots of smaller towns based on crime ridden areas like Basildon and perhaps even a seaside resort like Blackpool or Southend (My home town wink.gif).

There's so much that could go right with setting the game here. The thought makes me happy.

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What I would find interesting is the mixture of old and new buildings. It's like there's the sheen of the modern age but underneath is burried these creepy, foggy alleyways and cobbled streets.

God, there's so much potential for an amazing game. But it shouldn't be called London.

Have one big city (London) and lots of smaller towns based on crime ridden areas like Basildon and perhaps even a seaside resort like Blackpool or Southend (My home town wink.gif).

There's so much that could go right with setting the game here. The thought makes me happy.

I think, in terms of countryside, areas based on Norfolk and Essex and towns based on Brighton/Blackpool/Southend and whatnot would win (also, a planned community like Milton Keynes would be fun to wreak havoc in). A countryside RAF base and shopping centre should round up the countryside experience.

 

But London should be the star of the show. Should be around the size of, if not bigger, then IV's map.

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but imagine the little streets and the small cars how annoying there would be no mad cars like in gta 4 just little mr bean looking cars

I've seen some undeducated and ignorant posts in this topic but this one really takes the biscuit. lol.gif

Yea i agree, that's ridiculous. We all know european cars are hands down the best.

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but imagine the little streets and the small cars how annoying there would be no mad cars like in gta 4 just little mr bean looking cars

You seem to forget that most of the best cars in GTA IV are european (Turismo, Schafter, Feltzer, Oracle, F620, Super Diamond, Comet, Infernus, Super GT, etc...), and it's the same in reality, everybody knows that european cars are the best.

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In LC girls were already ugly (just look at Joni, and how she was supposed to look aka as in artwork?), i just can't imagine how girls of London will look, if in reality they're so.. like in LC.

 

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You people talking sh*t about stuff you know nothing about, you're so funny. But not in a good way.

They even have their own sound studios in NYC: are they really going to fly the entire cast (including the hundreds of ped voices) over from London and pay their flights and living costs - I think not.

This comment is so ridiculously stupid, it's kind of painful.

 

If you want to make a game with an English touch, why would you drag 500 people from anywhere? If you use the locals, then they are there, on spot. If you use your own people, they can stay put in the studio and record the sh*t. Be it in NY or on f*cking Alaska, it doesn't really matter, does it?

 

The only people who would actually travel anywhere are Hosers, maybe some writers and obviously a team of people who would propbably cruise through the town and scan the sites. Yeah, doable sigh.gif

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, 2 San Andreas (one of which being Los Santos in GTA1), a crap-load of Liberty Cities, but 2 London games (with almost the exact same atmosphere and map as each other).

 

Some of you may be like "Oh, but San Andreas only had 2 aswell!" Thing is about that, the first San Andreas was actually just Los Santos if you look at the map, San Andreas got about 3 times its worth and in a full-3D GTA world. London, on the other hand, desperately needs to be done again.

 

Actually, the GTA1 rendition of San Andreas was based on San Francisco. Also known as San Fierro.

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You people talking sh*t about stuff you know nothing about, you're so funny. But not in a good way.

They even have their own sound studios in NYC: are they really going to fly the entire cast (including the hundreds of ped voices) over from London and pay their flights and living costs - I think not.

This comment is so ridiculously stupid, it's kind of painful.

 

If you want to make a game with an English touch, why would you drag 500 people from anywhere? If you use the locals, then they are there, on spot. If you use your own people, they can stay put in the studio and record the sh*t. Be it in NY or on f*cking Alaska, it doesn't really matter, does it?

 

The only people who would actually travel anywhere are Hosers, maybe some writers and obviously a team of people who would propbably cruise through the town and scan the sites. Yeah, doable sigh.gif

What I found most amusing was the fact that he quoted your post without realising that it was directed more at him then anyone else in the topic biggrin.gif

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You seem to forget that most of the best cars in GTA IV are european (Turismo, Schafter, Feltzer, Oracle, F620, Super Diamond, Comet, Infernus, Super GT, etc...), and it's the same in reality, everybody knows that european cars are the best.

That's your opinion. Honestly, my favorite cars were the Cavalcade & Patriot, based on the Cadillac Escalade and Hummer H2, respectively. They were the best for destruction.

 

Sure, Europe may have the fast cars but where would you use them? It's mostly crooked alleyways and small streets. And every other car is a tiny subcompact like a SmartCar or a Ford Ka. What kind of damage could you do in a City Car? None.

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Sure, Europe may have the fast cars but where would you use them? It's mostly crooked alleyways and small streets. And every other car is a tiny subcompact like a SmartCar or a Ford Ka. What kind of damage could you do in a City Car? None.

You're an absolute idiot if you believe that.

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