Gay Tony

[kgrogfefji82]

I thought he was a very, very good characters, amongst the best in the IV world, sure he doesn't touch Niko, Roman but I mean... I like the guy, he was a great dude to work for, I never really started liking the Peggorino guy, Ray, Phil Bell, Faustin all that much.

 

Gay Tony is amonst my favorite characters in the IV world.

 

The Mccreary brothers are great and well developted characters. But I mean I do like Gay Tony and Yusuf Amir more. Friendship between Gay Tony and Luis was great too. So I do like Gay Tony and Yusuf more than most characters from GTA IV but the story of GTA IV is a lot better and characters like Niko and Roman can't be beat.

 

It bothers me a little bit too be honest. GTA IV is one of my favorite games of all time and it's story and characters are all amazing. But apart from Niko, Roman, Brucie and the Mccreary's the IV characters aren't really all that memorable, well maybe this is a lie, many was I just didn't LOVE them.

 

I mean I never really got to love Packie, he's alright but he's so... f*cked up, lol. He's a good guy though. And I loved working for all the Mccreary brothers.

 

But I think Gay Tony is a more memorable character than the guys you work for in IV. There's no doubt that no characters comes close to Niko and Roman. Brucie was also a great and loyal character in GTA IV so was Little Jacob. I do think that Niko's two most loyal friends in the end was Brucie and Little Jacob

 

This post has been edited by Laufas on Nov 3 2009, 03:15

 

Edited November 3, 2009 by Laufas

[blahblah1212]

He ruled, and was one of my favorite Grand Theft Auto non-protagonist characters ever.

[Nexus.]

He ruled, and was one of my favorite Grand Theft Auto non-protagonist characters ever.

This, but i liked armando and henrique more

 

gay tony was a really good character and i liked how he got punched out and such

[kgrogfefji82]

He ruled, and was one of my favorite Grand Theft Auto non-protagonist characters ever.

This, but i liked armando and henrique more

 

gay tony was a really good character and i liked how he got punched out and such

I didn't like Armando and Henrigue at all. Henrigue looks like a monkey, such a stupid f*ck, lol. Armando looks atleast a bit smarter but I didn't like them.

 

Gay Tony though is also one of my favorite main characters, he's great through the game

[Schweppez]

Tony is a wierdo, he tried to shoot himself in the head, AND he likes to date guys that treat him like sh*t. I don't understand him o_O

[Slamman]

I think he's the best character, so far as I played, I've now gone onto Lost and the Damned, playing in reverse! I like the Lost and Damned better as a whole, seems much better done as DLC goes

[FearTheLiving]

How can you say he's great we never really even get to see much of him how he is sober. He's usually f*cked up or past out. I still can't believe people actually like BOGT story better than LaD and GTA IV, but hey that's your opinion. As for Gay Tony as a character he was between okay and meh. Yusuf on the other hand was a very well developed character and actually felt his personality and probably the only real interesting character in BoGT to me. Like I said the rest are a bit meh. Edited November 3, 2009 by FearTheLiving

[floppay]

How can you say he's great we never really even get to see much of him how he is sober. He's usually f*cked up or past out. I still can't believe people actually like BOGT story better than LaD and GTA IV, but hey that's your opinion. As for Gay Tony as a character he was between okay and meh. Yusuf on the other hand was a very well developed character and actually felt his personality and probably the only real interesting character in BoGT to me. Like I said the rest are a bit meh.

Tony Prince was an infinitely more developed character than Yusuf. Do you even understand what you're saying? We see Tony transform throughout the entire episode, and we know of his glory days before that. Yusuf is a bazillion aire that wants to please his rich dad. That's it as far as development goes. He's awesome because of the terrific writing and voice acting.

 

Tony is awesome because he is a very well developed character, he's terrifically written, acted, and he is extremely likable. Tony and Luis' relationship is very real and it is very believable. This ENTIRE episode is about Tony, and you actually built up the nerve to say that a side character is more DEVELOPED? XD.

[FearTheLiving]

How can you say he's great we never really even get to see much of him how he is sober. He's usually f*cked up or past out. I still can't believe people actually like BOGT story better than LaD and GTA IV, but hey that's your opinion. As for Gay Tony as a character he was between okay and meh. Yusuf on the other hand was a very well developed character and actually felt his personality and probably the only real interesting character in BoGT to me. Like I said the rest are a bit meh.

Tony Prince was an infinitely more developed character than Yusuf. Do you even understand what you're saying? We see Tony transform throughout the entire episode, and we know of his glory days before that. Yusuf is a bazillion aire that wants to please his rich dad. That's it as far as development goes. He's awesome because of the terrific writing and voice acting.

 

Tony is awesome because he is a very well developed character, he's terrifically written, acted, and he is extremely likable. Tony and Luis' relationship is very real and it is very believable. This ENTIRE episode is about Tony, and you actually built up the nerve to say that a side character is more DEVELOPED? XD.

So please explain how he is built up? How is Gay Tony and in-depth and amazing character? How are Luis and Gay Tony great together? From my experience playing the game Tony is just some Junkie with Luis being a loyal lacky that can't think for himself. They have a good relationship going but I wouldn't call it an in-depth story character development that gets me to know the character.

 

[kgrogfefji82]

How can you say he's great we never really even get to see much of him how he is sober. He's usually f*cked up or past out. I still can't believe people actually like BOGT story better than LaD and GTA IV, but hey that's your opinion. As for Gay Tony as a character he was between okay and meh. Yusuf on the other hand was a very well developed character and actually felt his personality and probably the only real interesting character in BoGT to me. Like I said the rest are a bit meh.

We f*cking get it, you don't like TBOGT as much as TLAD, are you really that big of an attention whore that you have to mention it in every single thread?

 

And, wtf... How is Yusuf a better character? I can't deny that I absolutely love the guy and would love to see him return in the upcomming GTA Game. But he was just there to be funny, his motives was too make his dad proud.. I mean... That's just a f*cking stupid thing to say, done arguing with you, jeez.

[FearTheLiving]

How can you say he's great we never really even get to see much of him how he is sober. He's usually f*cked up or past out. I still can't believe people actually like BOGT story better than LaD and GTA IV, but hey that's your opinion. As for Gay Tony as a character he was between okay and meh. Yusuf on the other hand was a very well developed character and actually felt his personality and probably the only real interesting character in BoGT to me. Like I said the rest are a bit meh.

We f*cking get it, you don't like TBOGT as much as TLAD, are you really that big of an attention whore that you have to mention it in every single thread?

 

And, wtf... How is Yusuf a better character? I can't deny that I absolutely love the guy and would love to see him return in the upcomming GTA Game. But he was just there to be funny, his motives was too make his dad proud.. I mean... That's just a f*cking stupid thing to say, done arguing with you, jeez.

Your a BOGT Fanboy if it's so great explain don't just argue with me when I ask you why. I see you making 50 topic of how much you love BoGT but you never really say why. You say it has a great story (I disagree, good not great) and characters (I disagree, alright but not as in-depth as I was hoping) and gameplay (I gree with the gameplay and features). Don't sit there and say I'm attention grabbing if I'm asking a simple question if anyone is attention grabbing it would be the dude making a dozen topics so near the same time frame. So please rather than arguing with me explain why BoGT's story and characters are so great? I wanna hear your opinion and I won't tell you it's wrong I just wanna know why people think its great is that so hard to answer? Again story and characters not gameplay. I don't wanna hear Luis is awesome because he parachutes because that's a feature not a charaters personality.

[adamcs]

I actually thought Gay Tony was funnier than Yusuf. Yusuf was funny, but Gay Tony was the only character who genuinely made me laugh out loud:

 

 

GT: Why? Because people call me "Gay" Tony? In that case, you'd probably think I've got massive sculptures of cocks in my apartment as well. Gay guys love that sh*t, you cliché loving moron.

LL: There was that one marble thing you bought.

GT: That was art!

LL: Yeah. Giant, veiney, penis-shaped art.

 

 

GT: Hey there, muscles, no need to hit a lady.

LL: She don't got a mouth like a lady, Tone. And the way she was acting, she was gonna get us killed.

GT: I should have given her some pills. But, oops, Haha! I took 'em all.

 

 

 

 

 

[kgrogfefji82]

 

How can you say he's great we never really even get to see much of him how he is sober. He's usually f*cked up or past out. I still can't believe people actually like BOGT story better than LaD and GTA IV, but hey that's your opinion. As for Gay Tony as a character he was between okay and meh. Yusuf on the other hand was a very well developed character and actually felt his personality and probably the only real interesting character in BoGT to me. Like I said the rest are a bit meh.

We f*cking get it, you don't like TBOGT as much as TLAD, are you really that big of an attention whore that you have to mention it in every single thread?

 

And, wtf... How is Yusuf a better character? I can't deny that I absolutely love the guy and would love to see him return in the upcomming GTA Game. But he was just there to be funny, his motives was too make his dad proud.. I mean... That's just a f*cking stupid thing to say, done arguing with you, jeez.

Your a BOGT Fanboy if it's so great explain don't just argue with me when I ask you why. I see you making 50 topic of how much you love BoGT but you never really say why. You say it has a great story (I disagree, good not great) and characters (I disagree, alright but not as in-depth as I was hoping) and gameplay (I gree with the gameplay and features). Don't sit there and say I'm attention grabbing if I'm asking a simple question if anyone is attention grabbing it would be the dude making a dozen topics so near the same time frame. So please rather than arguing with me explain why BoGT's story and characters are so great? I wanna hear your opinion and I won't tell you it's wrong I just wanna know why people think its great is that so hard to answer? Again story and characters not gameplay. I don't wanna hear Luis is awesome because he parachutes because that's a feature not a charaters personality.

First off it's "You're" not "Your"

 

Second.

 

I like TBOGT more because

 

A) It's not serious for a change, I enjoyed the serious stuff of IV and TLAD it was done very well, I loved the dark jokes, and, well IV is my favorite game from this generation, so I love pretty much everything. But it was nice with a change of tone.

 

B)Because of Luis and Tony's friendship, it's handled quite well through the game, you can tell that they're good friends. A&H keep making fun of him because he's with a gay guy but Luis isn't some immature f*ck that cares about stupid BS like that, which I also thought was handled quite well, I'm sick of all the gay hate and sh*t like that.. But don't get me wrong the gay hate in the game was also done very well, but the ones that were being immature kinda looked like idiots, just like real life, lol.

 

C)Missions. More vairety in missions. TLAD was very much the same from start to finish, pretty much you shooting bikers all the time with the exception of shooting cops sometimes and like stealing the prison bus and kidnapping Roman which was great. But there wasn't much vairety and I felt like the missions got tiring pretty fast. Now don't get me wrong you shoot a whole lot in TBOGT too, it's just that there are breaks for it, and even if you're shooting you get a helicopter first, jump out with a chute access the building from the top and take em' down. I just think that it makes for more fun.

 

Missions is a no brainer for me they were just way more awesome than TLAD. TLAD did have good missions too like when Ray sent his guys after you and you got too go to Terry and Clay and stay up on the roof taking out the f*ckers, that was fun. But still missions in TBOGT are all just so much more fun.

 

D) Characters. Johnny was great, f*ck he might be better than Luis in some ways, or maybe he even is better. But characters like Gay Tony, Yusuf Amir are better than Jim, Billy, Stubbs. I mean didn't feel like TLAD had very good characters.. Bulgarin was a much better bad guy than Billy/Brian was. Sure both were predictable too be bad guys, but they were both great but Bulgarin was just much better, I just wanted to end that f*cker since I first met him.

 

E) Weapons. TLAD weapons were alright, they weren't anything amazing, I could easily go back to IV after having played TLAD without feeling like I'm missing out on something. The assault shotgun in the game was great, no doubt but... Again I didn't really feel like I missed out not having it. TBOGT on the other hand has great weapons and after using them I would NOT wanna go back to the old ones

 

F) Gameplay. We have parachutes which are alone just replay value for like 20 hours, f*ck fooling around with these just never gets old. Then there are the basejumping challanges which are fun, there are the Drug Wars which are way better than the Gang Wars from TLAD was. There are the triathlon races which are f*cking awesome. I can't quite deside if I like them more than bike races since I love smacking people with the bat off the bike. But jumping out a heli using parachutes then getting to a boat doing a bit of boat race, then reach the cars that has f*cking nitro, I mean it's also a lot of fun!

 

So now you know. I hope you read this so you can stop bitching on why I like TBOGT more than TLAD

 

Oh and I'm not a TBOGT fanboy. I love it a lot that doesn't make me a fanboy. It's more likely that I'd be a GTA4 fanboy but I'm not, I just get pissed off when morons call GTA IV a bad game, it's embarrassing

Edited November 3, 2009 by Laufas

[Schweppez]

Excellent list, sir. I dont see myself ever playing TLAD again, unless I want to do the story again or do some bike races. Thats it.

[FearTheLiving]

How can you say he's great we never really even get to see much of him how he is sober. He's usually f*cked up or past out. I still can't believe people actually like BOGT story better than LaD and GTA IV, but hey that's your opinion. As for Gay Tony as a character he was between okay and meh. Yusuf on the other hand was a very well developed character and actually felt his personality and probably the only real interesting character in BoGT to me. Like I said the rest are a bit meh.

We f*cking get it, you don't like TBOGT as much as TLAD, are you really that big of an attention whore that you have to mention it in every single thread?

 

And, wtf... How is Yusuf a better character? I can't deny that I absolutely love the guy and would love to see him return in the upcomming GTA Game. But he was just there to be funny, his motives was too make his dad proud.. I mean... That's just a f*cking stupid thing to say, done arguing with you, jeez.

Your a BOGT Fanboy if it's so great explain don't just argue with me when I ask you why. I see you making 50 topic of how much you love BoGT but you never really say why. You say it has a great story (I disagree, good not great) and characters (I disagree, alright but not as in-depth as I was hoping) and gameplay (I gree with the gameplay and features). Don't sit there and say I'm attention grabbing if I'm asking a simple question if anyone is attention grabbing it would be the dude making a dozen topics so near the same time frame. So please rather than arguing with me explain why BoGT's story and characters are so great? I wanna hear your opinion and I won't tell you it's wrong I just wanna know why people think its great is that so hard to answer? Again story and characters not gameplay. I don't wanna hear Luis is awesome because he parachutes because that's a feature not a charaters personality.

First off it's "You're" not "Your"

 

Second.

 

I like TBOGT more because

 

A) It's not serious for a change, I enjoyed the serious stuff of IV and TLAD it was done very well, I loved the dark jokes, and, well IV is my favorite game from this generation, so I love pretty much everything. But it was nice with a change of tone.

 

B)Because of Luis and Tony's friendship, it's handled quite well through the game, you can tell that they're good friends. A&H keep making fun of him because he's with a gay guy but Luis isn't some immature f*ck that cares about stupid BS like that, which I also thought was handled quite well, I'm sick of all the gay hate and sh*t like that.. But don't get me wrong the gay hate in the game was also done very well, but the ones that were being immature kinda looked like idiots, just like real life, lol.

 

C)Missions. More vairety in missions. TLAD was very much the same from start to finish, pretty much you shooting bikers all the time with the exception of shooting cops sometimes and like stealing the prison bus and kidnapping Roman which was great. But there wasn't much vairety and I felt like the missions got tiring pretty fast. Now don't get me wrong you shoot a whole lot in TBOGT too, it's just that there are breaks for it, and even if you're shooting you get a helicopter first, jump out with a chute access the building from the top and take em' down. I just think that it makes for more fun.

 

Missions is a no brainer for me they were just way more awesome than TLAD. TLAD did have good missions too like when Ray sent his guys after you and you got too go to Terry and Clay and stay up on the roof taking out the f*ckers, that was fun. But still missions in TBOGT are all just so much more fun.

 

D) Characters. Johnny was great, f*ck he might be better than Luis in some ways, or maybe he even is better. But characters like Gay Tony, Yusuf Amir are better than Jim, Billy, Stubbs. I mean didn't feel like TLAD had very good characters.. Bulgarin was a much better bad guy than Billy/Brian was. Sure both were predictable too be bad guys, but they were both great but Bulgarin was just much better, I just wanted to end that f*cker since I first met him.

 

E) Weapons. TLAD weapons were alright, they weren't anything amazing, I could easily go back to IV after having played TLAD without feeling like I'm missing out on something. The assault shotgun in the game was great, no doubt but... Again I didn't really feel like I missed out not having it. TBOGT on the other hand has great weapons and after using them I would NOT wanna go back to the old ones

 

F) Gameplay. We have parachutes which are alone just replay value for like 20 hours, f*ck fooling around with these just never gets old. Then there are the basejumping challanges which are fun, there are the Drug Wars which are way better than the Gang Wars from TLAD was. There are the triathlon races which are f*cking awesome. I can't quite deside if I like them more than bike races since I love smacking people with the bat off the bike. But jumping out a heli using parachutes then getting to a boat doing a bit of boat race, then reach the cars that has f*cking nitro, I mean it's also a lot of fun!

 

So now you know. I hope you read this so you can stop bitching on why I like TBOGT more than TLAD

First off was the spelling correction really necessary? I understand the difference it's a common mistake while typing fast.

 

Secondly I asked why is it great (Story and Characters) meaning I didn't just want you to compare LaD and say these guys are better. Which is all you did. Just saying "they are better" doesn't explain why you like them. I appreciate you trying though. Also no need to explain the weapons and gameplay because if you read my post I already understand the reasoning behind liking those. (Everyone loves new weapons and improving on features and adding to them from an already great game makes the gameplay in this game excellent too)

 

The reasons I dislike (disappointed) with BoGT's characters and storyline is that it felt very rushed and shuffled in together. I know it's just DLC, but some story elements didn't make sense and part of them time I was asking myself why is this happening or why isn't this happening. What I liked about TLaD was that it up held it's theme throughout the entire singleplayer experience and the character though not as light as BoGT they were very much well established and I knew off the bat who they were and only established more as the story progressed same goes for GTA IV. As far as I'm aware of the Theme of BoGT was "Nightlife" yet that goes out the window after the first few missions and is steadily replaced with over the top action and random no point in having parachute missions. I understood that the Parachute was the new feature and they wanted to show it off quite a bit that is the least of my problems with this game. The characters throught out the story never really get added info or get to know who they are like the previous games. Luis is saying he doesn't want to be doing this bad stuff yet he'll blow up a train full of people or go drug dealing with friends who only refer to him as being crazy (apparently that's the only word to explain Luis). The story that was originally formed through GTA IV and what I was hoping they'd stick to changed and to me came out as more of a let down when they ignored what info they had already put into it. Examples Luis shootout on the Museum, The whole Dominican Drug Dealer sub plot (I wouldn't call Drug Wars a sub plot), and Fight Club could have had a little plot to it as well. They also added story elements that made no sense or parts that were just added for action effect. Example Finding out where Packie was holding Gracie (If they knew where she was being held why did they do something about it why wait?), The Rampage mission (Hockey Team) why would you send tons of men after a guy who just parachuted on your building it could have been a random guy who accidently landed there, ect. I could keep going but you get my point.

[JohnnyTheJew]

He was a very well developed character, but not a good guy to work for...

All the sh*t that he got Luis into... Just think about how much sh*t he got him into.

[kgrogfefji82]

I don't see why I have to proove myself. I already said that I like the friendship between Gay Tony and Luis more, it was handled a lot better than lets say the friendship between Johnny and Jim. We never really got too see them as friends, sure it wasn't all that bad, it was done pretty well but... you didn't really get the feeling that they cared that much for each other.

 

The friendship between Tony and Luis is more complex too.

 

Bulgarin had me want him dead a whole lot more than Billy or Brian, sure they were assholes, but nothing compared to the freak asshole Bulgarin, he's just disturbing, and he f*cked Niko over too.

 

I don't know what I should explain, I said I liked the change from a serious tone to a more light one. I dont' know why I should have to go deeper into it than that.I said I liked the change. Sure some things were handled pretty badly like Luis mother, all of the sudden her part is done, which was in some ways good because she's a f*cking asshole but I mean. That alone isn't gonna have me like the story less. It's a simple story that I enjoyed, why can't you just accept that?

 

TLAD is about bikers with a biker president that f*cks things up badly, you make it sound as if it's the best story ever told. I loved the story in the game and it handled connecting to IV better than TBOGT did, but in the end I enjoyed the story more in TBOGT. Why I have already stated. Because of the characters, the change of tone, it's not serious anymore which was good.

 

As for the actions Luis take, why does it have to make sense. Does anything make sense? Niko from start is pissed the f*ck off because a guy threatens to kill him and his cousin, 15 missions later he's blowing the f*ck out of houndres of cops without any issue at all.

 

Justifying why one do what they do isn't something you should go too deep into. Luis is referred to a "psychopath killer" by A&H through the game, I'd say that's enough of a reason. Niko does it for money and Johnny does it because he basically doesn't have a choice.

[Brevich]

He is awesome!!! Best gay character in a game I have ever seen ando he also look like Robert Dwayne Jr.

[JohnnyTheJew]

Everybody can have their own opinions. Nobody needs to explain themselves for it and you guys sure as sh*t don't need to argue about it.

[FearTheLiving]

I don't see why I have to proove myself. I already said that I like the friendship between Gay Tony and Luis more, it was handled a lot better than lets say the friendship between Johnny and Jim. We never really got too see them as friends, sure it wasn't all that bad, it was done pretty well but... you didn't really get the feeling that they cared that much for each other.

 

The friendship between Tony and Luis is more complex too.

 

Bulgarin had me want him dead a whole lot more than Billy or Brian, sure they were assholes, but nothing compared to the freak asshole Bulgarin, he's just disturbing, and he f*cked Niko over too.

 

I don't know what I should explain, I said I liked the change from a serious tone to a more light one. I dont' know why I should have to go deeper into it than that.I said I liked the change. Sure some things were handled pretty badly like Luis mother, all of the sudden her part is done, which was in some ways good because she's a f*cking asshole but I mean. That alone isn't gonna have me like the story less. It's a simple story that I enjoyed, why can't you just accept that?

 

TLAD is about bikers with a biker president that f*cks things up badly, you make it sound as if it's the best story ever told. I loved the story in the game and it handled connecting to IV better than TBOGT did, but in the end I enjoyed the story more in TBOGT. Why I have already stated. Because of the characters, the change of tone, it's not serious anymore which was good.

 

As for the actions Luis take, why does it have to make sense. Does anything make sense? Niko from start is pissed the f*ck off because a guy threatens to kill him and his cousin, 15 missions later he's blowing the f*ck out of houndres of cops without any issue at all.

 

Justifying why one do what they do isn't something you should go too deep into. Luis is referred to a "psychopath killer" by A&H through the game, I'd say that's enough of a reason. Niko does it for money and Johnny does it because he basically doesn't have a choice.

I guess it doesn't matter apparently no one is going to tell me how exactly this game is better and actually explain why. If you like it you like I'll leave it at that and Schweppez don't PM if we are talking on a subject in on a thread about the same subject we're talking about. If you like it you like it. I'm done trying to get people over the action stuff and see the story for what it really is.

 

Don't reply cause I'm not writing back.

[marv W]

How can you say he's great we never really even get to see much of him how he is sober. He's usually f*cked up or past out. I still can't believe people actually like BOGT story better than LaD and GTA IV, but hey that's your opinion. As for Gay Tony as a character he was between okay and meh. Yusuf on the other hand was a very well developed character and actually felt his personality and probably the only real interesting character in BoGT to me. Like I said the rest are a bit meh.

We f*cking get it, you don't like TBOGT as much as TLAD, are you really that big of an attention whore that you have to mention it in every single thread?

 

And, wtf... How is Yusuf a better character? I can't deny that I absolutely love the guy and would love to see him return in the upcomming GTA Game. But he was just there to be funny, his motives was too make his dad proud.. I mean... That's just a f*cking stupid thing to say, done arguing with you, jeez.

Your a BOGT Fanboy if it's so great explain don't just argue with me when I ask you why. I see you making 50 topic of how much you love BoGT but you never really say why. You say it has a great story (I disagree, good not great) and characters (I disagree, alright but not as in-depth as I was hoping) and gameplay (I gree with the gameplay and features). Don't sit there and say I'm attention grabbing if I'm asking a simple question if anyone is attention grabbing it would be the dude making a dozen topics so near the same time frame. So please rather than arguing with me explain why BoGT's story and characters are so great? I wanna hear your opinion and I won't tell you it's wrong I just wanna know why people think its great is that so hard to answer? Again story and characters not gameplay. I don't wanna hear Luis is awesome because he parachutes because that's a feature not a charaters personality.

First off it's "You're" not "Your"

 

Second.

 

I like TBOGT more because

 

A) It's not serious for a change, I enjoyed the serious stuff of IV and TLAD it was done very well, I loved the dark jokes, and, well IV is my favorite game from this generation, so I love pretty much everything. But it was nice with a change of tone.

 

B)Because of Luis and Tony's friendship, it's handled quite well through the game, you can tell that they're good friends. A&H keep making fun of him because he's with a gay guy but Luis isn't some immature f*ck that cares about stupid BS like that, which I also thought was handled quite well, I'm sick of all the gay hate and sh*t like that.. But don't get me wrong the gay hate in the game was also done very well, but the ones that were being immature kinda looked like idiots, just like real life, lol.

 

C)Missions. More vairety in missions. TLAD was very much the same from start to finish, pretty much you shooting bikers all the time with the exception of shooting cops sometimes and like stealing the prison bus and kidnapping Roman which was great. But there wasn't much vairety and I felt like the missions got tiring pretty fast. Now don't get me wrong you shoot a whole lot in TBOGT too, it's just that there are breaks for it, and even if you're shooting you get a helicopter first, jump out with a chute access the building from the top and take em' down. I just think that it makes for more fun.

 

Missions is a no brainer for me they were just way more awesome than TLAD. TLAD did have good missions too like when Ray sent his guys after you and you got too go to Terry and Clay and stay up on the roof taking out the f*ckers, that was fun. But still missions in TBOGT are all just so much more fun.

 

D) Characters. Johnny was great, f*ck he might be better than Luis in some ways, or maybe he even is better. But characters like Gay Tony, Yusuf Amir are better than Jim, Billy, Stubbs. I mean didn't feel like TLAD had very good characters.. Bulgarin was a much better bad guy than Billy/Brian was. Sure both were predictable too be bad guys, but they were both great but Bulgarin was just much better, I just wanted to end that f*cker since I first met him.

 

E) Weapons. TLAD weapons were alright, they weren't anything amazing, I could easily go back to IV after having played TLAD without feeling like I'm missing out on something. The assault shotgun in the game was great, no doubt but... Again I didn't really feel like I missed out not having it. TBOGT on the other hand has great weapons and after using them I would NOT wanna go back to the old ones

 

F) Gameplay. We have parachutes which are alone just replay value for like 20 hours, f*ck fooling around with these just never gets old. Then there are the basejumping challanges which are fun, there are the Drug Wars which are way better than the Gang Wars from TLAD was. There are the triathlon races which are f*cking awesome. I can't quite deside if I like them more than bike races since I love smacking people with the bat off the bike. But jumping out a heli using parachutes then getting to a boat doing a bit of boat race, then reach the cars that has f*cking nitro, I mean it's also a lot of fun!

 

So now you know. I hope you read this so you can stop bitching on why I like TBOGT more than TLAD

 

Oh and I'm not a TBOGT fanboy. I love it a lot that doesn't make me a fanboy. It's more likely that I'd be a GTA4 fanboy but I'm not, I just get pissed off when morons call GTA IV a bad game, it's embarrassing

I couldn't agree more with that list, I loved GTA4 and TLaD for the gritty realism, things don't always end up rosy in this life. TBoGT was just like a breath of fresh air, a little escapism hasnt done the series any harm whatsoever IMO and to me thats another great reason to have episodic content, things can be switched up to tell different stories from different perspectives.

[kgrogfefji82]

I don't see why I have to proove myself. I already said that I like the friendship between Gay Tony and Luis more, it was handled a lot better than lets say the friendship between Johnny and Jim. We never really got too see them as friends, sure it wasn't all that bad, it was done pretty well but... you didn't really get the feeling that they cared that much for each other.

 

The friendship between Tony and Luis is more complex too.

 

Bulgarin had me want him dead a whole lot more than Billy or Brian, sure they were assholes, but nothing compared to the freak asshole Bulgarin, he's just disturbing, and he f*cked Niko over too.

 

I don't know what I should explain, I said I liked the change from a serious tone to a more light one. I dont' know why I should have to go deeper into it than that.I said I liked the change. Sure some things were handled pretty badly like Luis mother, all of the sudden her part is done, which was in some ways good because she's a f*cking asshole but I mean. That alone isn't gonna have me like the story less. It's a simple story that I enjoyed, why can't you just accept that?

 

TLAD is about bikers with a biker president that f*cks things up badly, you make it sound as if it's the best story ever told. I loved the story in the game and it handled connecting to IV better than TBOGT did, but in the end I enjoyed the story more in TBOGT. Why I have already stated. Because of the characters, the change of tone, it's not serious anymore which was good.

 

As for the actions Luis take, why does it have to make sense. Does anything make sense? Niko from start is pissed the f*ck off because a guy threatens to kill him and his cousin, 15 missions later he's blowing the f*ck out of houndres of cops without any issue at all.

 

Justifying why one do what they do isn't something you should go too deep into. Luis is referred to a "psychopath killer" by A&H through the game, I'd say that's enough of a reason. Niko does it for money and Johnny does it because he basically doesn't have a choice.

I guess it doesn't matter apparently no one is going to tell me how exactly this game is better and actually explain why. If you like it you like I'll leave it at that and Schweppez don't PM if we are talking on a subject in on a thread about the same subject we're talking about. If you like it you like it. I'm done trying to get people over the action stuff and see the story for what it really is.

 

Don't reply cause I'm not writing back.

Oh please get over yourself what the f*ck is your problem. Stop being such an ignorant asshole.

 

You don't have to explain in depth why you like one game over the other. I cannot proove to you how TBOGT is better since you obviously like TLAD more so that won't change, so me prooving something to you isn't possible since it's a matter of opinion, I can't say something that'll have you say "you know what, he's right, TBOGT is by fact better" because it isn't possible.

 

So get your head out your ass and stop being so ignorant, no one can proove to you why TBOGT is better, and I already stated the reasons as to why I like it more, why the f*ck should I have to explain it in even more depth when I already stated the reasons I like it more, god your such a f*cking dumbass.

 

 

[JohnnyTheJew]

Come on, TLAD didn't have good characters?

 

I like TBoGT more because it's more fun to play... But the characters for me were better in TLAD.

 

I think Jim and Billy are better than Gay Tony and Yusuf Amir.

[Nipper]

Example Finding out where Packie was holding Gracie (If they knew where she was being held why did they do something about it why wait?),

I think they did. Tony probably told the Ancelottis where she was when he left Luis. (Didn't he say he was doing so?). If you remember correctly in GTA IV, Niko and Packi are leaving that "safehouse" when a car full of Ancelottis roll up, remember? How do you think they knew where she was?

 

Maybe Packie was on route to move Gracie when Luis and Tony saw him go inside that building and the Ancelottis went for him as soon as they could?

 

The second paragraph is pure speculation, even though it makes perfect sense.

 

Any other theories?

[kgrogfefji82]

Come on, TLAD didn't have good characters?

 

I like TBoGT more because it's more fun to play... But the characters for me were better in TLAD.

 

I think Jim and Billy are better than Gay Tony and Yusuf Amir.

I never said TLAD didn't have good characters, I just don't think they're as good as TBOGT's ones. Gay Tony is better than any character from TLAD. Yusuf Amir isn't a character that's like deep or anything he's just there to be funny, and he's a great friend too, he's what Little Jacob was too Niko in IV and what Jim was to Johnny in TLAD.

 

I loved Johnny and Billy. Jim was also good so was Ray (italian guy, can't believe I don't remember his full name)

 

Sure Jim was a whole lot better than Henrique and Armando, f*ck those guys are dumb pricks, I never liked them. But Gay Tony alone is better than any character from TLAD.

 

Having "brothers" in TLAD was great, you could sense that they cared for each other and all, I'm not gonna say that it's a bad game because it isn't, it has great characters and everything. It's just that I prefer Tony, Yusuf and Bulgarin.

 

Bulgarin is someone I f*cking hate and he was just such an excellent bad guy

[JohnnyTheJew]

If you look at your post it says "TLAD didn't have very good characters"

 

His name was Ray Boccino.

 

And Gay Tony is better than any TLAD character in your opinion.

 

In my opinion both Jim and Billy are better. Also better than Bulgarin.

 

Yusuf Amir is funny, but I think Roman is better I know he's not from TLAD, but you can't really compare anyone from TLAD to Yusuf Amir because nobody's the funny guy in TLAD. So comparing him to Roman would make more sense.

[FearTheLiving]

I don't see why I have to proove myself. I already said that I like the friendship between Gay Tony and Luis more, it was handled a lot better than lets say the friendship between Johnny and Jim. We never really got too see them as friends, sure it wasn't all that bad, it was done pretty well but... you didn't really get the feeling that they cared that much for each other.

 

The friendship between Tony and Luis is more complex too.

 

Bulgarin had me want him dead a whole lot more than Billy or Brian, sure they were assholes, but nothing compared to the freak asshole Bulgarin, he's just disturbing, and he f*cked Niko over too.

 

I don't know what I should explain, I said I liked the change from a serious tone to a more light one. I dont' know why I should have to go deeper into it than that.I said I liked the change. Sure some things were handled pretty badly like Luis mother, all of the sudden her part is done, which was in some ways good because she's a f*cking asshole but I mean. That alone isn't gonna have me like the story less. It's a simple story that I enjoyed, why can't you just accept that?

 

TLAD is about bikers with a biker president that f*cks things up badly, you make it sound as if it's the best story ever told. I loved the story in the game and it handled connecting to IV better than TBOGT did, but in the end I enjoyed the story more in TBOGT. Why I have already stated. Because of the characters, the change of tone, it's not serious anymore which was good.

 

As for the actions Luis take, why does it have to make sense. Does anything make sense? Niko from start is pissed the f*ck off because a guy threatens to kill him and his cousin, 15 missions later he's blowing the f*ck out of houndres of cops without any issue at all.

 

Justifying why one do what they do isn't something you should go too deep into. Luis is referred to a "psychopath killer" by A&H through the game, I'd say that's enough of a reason. Niko does it for money and Johnny does it because he basically doesn't have a choice.

I guess it doesn't matter apparently no one is going to tell me how exactly this game is better and actually explain why. If you like it you like I'll leave it at that and Schweppez don't PM if we are talking on a subject in on a thread about the same subject we're talking about. If you like it you like it. I'm done trying to get people over the action stuff and see the story for what it really is.

 

Don't reply cause I'm not writing back.

Oh please get over yourself what the f*ck is your problem. Stop being such an ignorant asshole.

 

You don't have to explain in depth why you like one game over the other. I cannot proove to you how TBOGT is better since you obviously like TLAD more so that won't change, so me prooving something to you isn't possible since it's a matter of opinion, I can't say something that'll have you say "you know what, he's right, TBOGT is by fact better" because it isn't possible.

 

So get your head out your ass and stop being so ignorant, no one can proove to you why TBOGT is better, and I already stated the reasons as to why I like it more, why the f*ck should I have to explain it in even more depth when I already stated the reasons I like it more, god your such a f*cking dumbass.

Whoa what's with the personal attacks? I took this in a business stand point and not once did I insult you. You obviously don't know the definition of ignorant or need to take your own advise. I was asking your opinion and why exactly you like the characters and story you didn't answer my question to the extant I wanted. You just replied it was light and that's why you liked it. I understand that quite well and was looking for a bit more info than that. I'm sorry your getting so worked up over this but it's me just trying to find out why people feel the characters and story are better than the previous games as I disagree and I want to understand more where your coming from. Just the less dark story line to me didn't make BoGT any better than the other 2, so I was hoping for more descriptive reasons. So please next time if you don't wanna answer my question, don't it's as simple as that but there was no reason for personal attacks especially so balls to the wall as that came out.

[kgrogfefji82]

 

If you look at your post it says "TLAD didn't have very good characters"

 

His name was Ray Boccino.

 

And Gay Tony is better than any TLAD character in your opinion.

 

In my opinion both Jim and Billy are better. Also better than Bulgarin.

 

Yusuf Amir is funny, but I think Roman is better I know he's not from TLAD, but you can't really compare anyone from TLAD to Yusuf Amir because nobody's the funny guy in TLAD. So comparing him to Roman would make more sense.

Oh well. It's sort of meant be "didn't have very good characters in comparison too IV and TBOGT" But... That's not really true maybe I wasn't thinking straight when I said that, lol. I like Billy I think he's a great character. But Jim felt like he was barely in the game, and the ones that got your back I mean helped you out were Terry and Clay and they weren't even developted through the game, they were in like 2 cutscenes.. They were only there to call and ask for backup which was ashame.

 

Oh and I think Roman is a much better character than Yusuf too. But both are funny guys

 

 

Whoa what's with the personal attacks? I took this in a business stand point and not once did I insult you. You obviously don't know the definition of ignorant or need to take your own advise. I was asking your opinion and why exactly you like the characters and story you didn't answer my question to the extant I wanted. You just replied it was light and that's why you liked it. I understand that quite well and was looking for a bit more info than that. I'm sorry your getting so worked up over this but it's me just trying to find out why people feel the characters and story are better than the previous games as I disagree and I want to understand more where your coming from. Just the less dark story line to me didn't make BoGT any better than the other 2, so I was hoping for more descriptive reasons. So please next time if you don't wanna answer my question, don't it's as simple as that but there was no reason for personal attacks especially so balls to the wall as that came out.

 

Is it really that odd? I put time into writing the posts I did explaining too you why I like TBOGT more and what do you tell me after I do so, you tell me it isn't enough of reasons, wtf.

 

TBOGT has it's issues. Some characters aren't really all that good such as your mom, Henrique and Armando, street punk idiots. I mean they're funny at times but I never liked them.

 

But TLAD also have it's issues. I think it failed at making you care for characters.. I never really got to care for Jim.. Seems like you spent a lot more time with Terry and Clay and those characters were just there for backup, but atleast they were always there too help. I think they sort of missed out on that..

Edited November 3, 2009 by Laufas

[JohnnyTheJew]

I don't see why I have to proove myself. I already said that I like the friendship between Gay Tony and Luis more, it was handled a lot better than lets say the friendship between Johnny and Jim. We never really got too see them as friends, sure it wasn't all that bad, it was done pretty well but... you didn't really get the feeling that they cared that much for each other.

 

The friendship between Tony and Luis is more complex too.

 

Bulgarin had me want him dead a whole lot more than Billy or Brian, sure they were assholes, but nothing compared to the freak asshole Bulgarin, he's just disturbing, and he f*cked Niko over too.

 

I don't know what I should explain, I said I liked the change from a serious tone to a more light one. I dont' know why I should have to go deeper into it than that.I said I liked the change. Sure some things were handled pretty badly like Luis mother, all of the sudden her part is done, which was in some ways good because she's a f*cking asshole but I mean. That alone isn't gonna have me like the story less. It's a simple story that I enjoyed, why can't you just accept that?

 

TLAD is about bikers with a biker president that f*cks things up badly, you make it sound as if it's the best story ever told. I loved the story in the game and it handled connecting to IV better than TBOGT did, but in the end I enjoyed the story more in TBOGT. Why I have already stated. Because of the characters, the change of tone, it's not serious anymore which was good.

 

As for the actions Luis take, why does it have to make sense. Does anything make sense? Niko from start is pissed the f*ck off because a guy threatens to kill him and his cousin, 15 missions later he's blowing the f*ck out of houndres of cops without any issue at all.

 

Justifying why one do what they do isn't something you should go too deep into. Luis is referred to a "psychopath killer" by A&H through the game, I'd say that's enough of a reason. Niko does it for money and Johnny does it because he basically doesn't have a choice.

I guess it doesn't matter apparently no one is going to tell me how exactly this game is better and actually explain why. If you like it you like I'll leave it at that and Schweppez don't PM if we are talking on a subject in on a thread about the same subject we're talking about. If you like it you like it. I'm done trying to get people over the action stuff and see the story for what it really is.

 

Don't reply cause I'm not writing back.

Oh please get over yourself what the f*ck is your problem. Stop being such an ignorant asshole.

 

You don't have to explain in depth why you like one game over the other. I cannot proove to you how TBOGT is better since you obviously like TLAD more so that won't change, so me prooving something to you isn't possible since it's a matter of opinion, I can't say something that'll have you say "you know what, he's right, TBOGT is by fact better" because it isn't possible.

 

So get your head out your ass and stop being so ignorant, no one can proove to you why TBOGT is better, and I already stated the reasons as to why I like it more, why the f*ck should I have to explain it in even more depth when I already stated the reasons I like it more, god your such a f*cking dumbass.

Whoa what's with the personal attacks? I took this in a business stand point and not once did I insult you. You obviously don't know the definition of ignorant or need to take your own advise. I was asking your opinion and why exactly you like the characters and story you didn't answer my question to the extant I wanted. You just replied it was light and that's why you liked it. I understand that quite well and was looking for a bit more info than that. I'm sorry your getting so worked up over this but it's me just trying to find out why people feel the characters and story are better than the previous games as I disagree and I want to understand more where your coming from. Just the less dark story line to me didn't make BoGT any better than the other 2, so I was hoping for more descriptive reasons. So please next time if you don't wanna answer my question, don't it's as simple as that but there was no reason for personal attacks especially so balls to the wall as that came out.

Yeah, Laufas, you and me is homies and all, but the guy didn't say anything bad to you.

 

Chill, man.

[kgrogfefji82]

I explained in post above. He did not say anythint mean too me. But I took my time and explained why I liked TBOGT more and all he says is that it's not enough...... Why should there even be "enough" if I like it more I like it more, I even stated WHY I like it more and he says I'm like incorrect about that, wtf?