Leon_S Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Here's the answer and the proof to go with it... NOTE: Anyone who's played through TLAD or TBOGT(or both) and checked the Liberty Tree News on the in-game internet while playing through it would notice that they put in the news stories of major events in Niko's story, I used that to come up with this. Well a lot of people wondered what the canonical ending to GTA 4 would be, since there were 2 different endings and the player had to choose one. Well when you finish The Ballad of Gay Tony this news story is posted on the in-game internet by the Liberty Tree news company(see video). It seems when Niko was forced to decide whether to help Dimitri Rascalov do a heroin deal for Jimmy Pegorino or instead kill him, he chose to kill him, he went to the Platypus boat docked in Hove Beach where all the Heroin was stored and where Dimitri was located, he fought his way through Dimitri's guards and eventually killed him. Right after that Luis destroyed all the heroin that Dimitri was going to sell because Bulgarin was trying to take it and sell it for himself after Dimitri was killed, Luis killed Bulgarin on his private Jet afterwards. Roman's wedding took place after that(I figured this out because the news story about Roman's wedding wasn't posted after the end of TBOGT because it hadn't happened yet, but at the beginning of Luis' final mission one of the russians already admitted that Dimitri was dead(see video)). So there you have it, Niko chose to take revenge on Dimitri instead of doing the deal with him. I put this short video together just as supporting evidence to the above: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarnell Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 wow great work dude. Have a or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpetDweller Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I don't really count this a proof because the whole thing hangs on the timing of a news report about Roman's wedding. Other than that the statement about Dimitri being dead and the Luis related news reports are all correct no matter what ending you chose. I prefer to believe that the wedding article was published some time after the event to leave the original ending up to the player. I wouldn't be surprised to find that there are a few timing issues with the 3 storylines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScratchCard Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 TBoGT goes on AFTER Niko's story? I had no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCstuntman Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 f*ck yeah! I always thought Revenge was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScratchCard Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 f*ck yeah! I always thought Revenge was right. I agree, it makes more sense. Niko would never trust Dimitri again, and didn't care much about money in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudepeel Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I think that "...several Russian gangsters thought to be involved in major heroin deal were killed in Hove Beach..." part is refering to shootout at Funland in Departure Time, not shootout at Platypus in A Dish Best Served Cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidus119 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) The news story is quite obviously talking about the Funland shooting, not the Platypus shooting. There is no canonical ending. It's whatever ending you want it to be. Edited November 3, 2009 by liquidus119 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly8000 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Yeah, sorry man but im very sure the shootout in Hove Beach is refering to the funland shootout where we killed Timur. I honestly reckon there is no 'Correct' Ending since if there was, why would R* give us a choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i like coffee enemas Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 (edited) I've just played through "Departure Time" one more time and came across something pretty interesting. According to the dialogue, the canonical choice for Niko to make in his story is revenge, as Timur says to one of his goons, and I quote: "Now that Rascalov is dead, we have sole ownership of the junk". Now, as we all know Luis' story finishes before Niko's does. Discuss Edited November 3, 2009 by leelee862 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RATEDR307 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 You don't know that, maybe Luis' story really does go on after Niko's story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsta312 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 (edited) Actually, TBoGT ending can fit in both endings. liquidus119 explained on "The Possible Trinity" thread that in the revenge mission, "A Dish Served Cold", Dimitri was overseeing his men stockpiling heroin on the Platypus, even before he made an offer to Pegorino for the heroin that they had. In choosing revenge, the heroin that Bulgarin had in "Departure Time" would have been the preexisting stock that Dimitri had. And it can also fit in the deal ending, with Dimitri obtaining the "cursed" heroin from Pegorino. In choosing deal, the heroin that Bulgarin had would've also included the "cursed" heroin in addition to the preexisting stock. It would also give the tale of the "cursed" heroin (mentioned in the "Liberty City Connections" thread) a fitting end by Luis. But as far as when TBoGT would chronologically end, this is how I see it... It depends on what ending you chose for GTA IV. If you chose revenge, "Departure Time" would take place the next day after Niko kills Dimitri in the Platypus, which would also be the same day Roman gets married. But if you chose deal, the mission would take place a day after Niko kills Dimitri at the Statue of Happiness, making the ending of TBoGT end after the GTA IV ending. Edited November 3, 2009 by shinsta312 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafetyCatch Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 f*ck yeah! I always thought Revenge was right. I agree, it makes more sense. Niko would never trust Dimitri again, and didn't care much about money in the first place. He didn't care? He cared too much about money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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