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Elitist and Ignorance


ObsydianRaven
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ObsydianRaven

It seems like in every genre there are elitist who think [insert Genre Name Here] is better than every other genre.

 

Examples,

 

 

 

 

Discuss.

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Well, am I elitest when I KNOW FOR A FACT, ROCK N ROLL IS KING.....

 

After all, Electric Light Orchestra even stated that ^

 

 

I don't think it's elitest when you acknowledge that the music is REAL, sincere, emotion drenched, played from the Heart, and with feeling, and kicks your ass.

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^Your opinion isn't fact, just so you know. You seem rather confused there.

 

And there will always be people putting down the music you listen to, a lot of the time out of ignorance. Of course everyone is entitled to an opinion, but that doesn't mean they should shove it down everyone else's throats. However, it's a fact of life that people like to be obnoxious twats, and it's no different when it comes to music. You're best off not giving these people the attention they crave. Listen to what you want, f*ck what anyone else thinks.

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Those first two videos are severely stupid. It's hard to be elitist when you're an ignoramus, I mean watching those videos physically pained me.

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Elitism =/= ignorance

 

elitists are elitists because they have listened to the music they constantly criticize and have come to the conclusion that they don't like it. What's so wrong with that, other than the jackassery?

 

Ignorance is way worse. At least elitists are informed.

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At least elitists are informed.

Actually not all of them are. IMO a large majority seem to just plain ignorant. Also this might get people mad but it seems like quite a big percentage of music elitist are either rock or metal fans.

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At least elitists are informed.

Actually not all of them are. IMO a large majority seem to just plain ignorant. Also this might get people mad but it seems like quite a big percentage of music elitist are either rock or metal fans.

You're right about the last part. Rock and metal are huge umbrella genres and most fans are very uppity about their favorite subgenres.

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There's no such thing as a genre that is superior to all others. There are great talents in all genres.

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That first video about rap might just be the stupidest thing I have seen in YouTube. And we are talking about freakin' YouTube here.

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That first video about rap might just be the stupidest thing I have seen in YouTube. And we are talking about freakin' YouTube here.

If the creator of that vid is over 12, he needs to be euthanised.

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People ask me my favorite genre of music, i tell them i like alot of dance music, that said i also like a hell of a lot of different songs from all types of genres, it all depends on my mood really. Aerosmith one day, Prodigy the next, James brown another etc.

 

It pisses me off when people say YO DANCE MUSIC AINT MUSIC CAUSE ITS DONE WITH A MACHINE, ROCK IS TEH BEST, erm no, just no. As far as im concerned there is some great dance music and some proper bollocks dance music, just like rock, pop and any other genre of music.

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That first video about rap might just be the stupidest thing I have seen in YouTube. And we are talking about freakin' YouTube here.

If the creator of that vid is over 12, he needs to be euthanised.

Haha, hell yeah.

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I used to have the opinion that death metal was king all other forms of music sucked. I grew out of that by the time I was 16, 17 years old. I still enjoy death metal but I can get into lots of other music although I must say that I am not into Country or Hip Hop music. Does that mean that hip hop and country sucks? Nope. Everyone has the right to their opinion.

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Both genres are great when done right. It's just the mainstream sh*t that's constantly being churned out that ruins the overall quality. Both of those videos cancel each other out because they both have sh*t music playing while they try to prove their points, when their points are retarded to boot. Not a good combination when trying to turn people against a genre.

 

But I can't say anything much about techno because I don't really listen to it that much.

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There's no such thing as a genre that is superior to all others. There are great talents in all genres.

Maybe, but ROCK is the most dominent, maybe not among GTAF members, but I recall Vice City's own licensed rockstation getting the most votes when polled, over an extended amount of time, and that's V*Rock, BTW.

 

Maybe partly Lazlow's claim to fame there as well. Chatterbox somehow amused enough people, I just found it wandered all over the place (in GTA3)

 

Kinda like my comments I post about, strange how that works! haha

 

Rock and Metal are lasting forms of music that carry the same weight the world over, but there's strong bastions in the Country world, as well, World Music and Dance, and Hip-Hop/Rap is no doubt gaining it's footing. So, in terms of any THING being elite.... Classical I guess.

 

Anyone being elite? Me.

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There's no such thing as a genre that is superior to all others.  There are great talents in all genres.

Maybe, but ROCK is the most dominent, maybe not among GTAF members, but I recall Vice City's own licensed rockstation getting the most votes when polled, over an extended amount of time, and that's V*Rock, BTW.

You make no sense. That has nothing to do with any genre being better than the other. You're talking about a poll taken by people who've played Vice City. That means jack sh*t. As it's been said, no genre is dominant or "KING" as you like to call it because there is incredible talent in each genre.

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VS, it does make sense, when we're talking about the most beloved musical format in existance today, it's not rap, it's not hip hop, it's not jazz or country.

 

Maybe I don't have exact figures, but I'm still sure more people like rock n roll then any other genre.

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VS, it does make sense, when we're talking about the most beloved musical format in existance today, it's not rap, it's not hip hop, it's not jazz or country.

 

Maybe I don't have exact figures, but I'm still sure more people like rock n roll then any other genre.

Thats such an absolutely redundant argument. Since when do pure numbers define quality?

 

I'm certain that that Britney Spears has sold more albums that that Disturbed band you insist on banging on about. So, by your logic she's the better artist, purely because she's more popular?

 

Honestly, Twilight just broke the record for highest opening day gross. That hardly makes it the greatest film of all time.

 

Now, if you were to get a hold of these 'exact figures', lets say the Billboard Hot 100 as its the closest thing to a quantitative measure we can find; that's certainly not dominated by 'rock n roll'.

 

So no, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

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VS, it does make sense, when we're talking about the most beloved musical format in existance today, it's not rap, it's not hip hop, it's not jazz or country.

 

Maybe I don't have exact figures, but I'm still sure more people like rock n roll then any other genre.

You are being completely asinine. You called yourself elitist, when it seems to me that you're just an ignorant asswart. Numbers do not mean a goddamn thing. As PCJ said, that little "Disturbed" band you keep raving on and on about most definitely hasn't outsold any of today's popular, non-rock artists, like Lil Wayne for example. Does that make Lil Wayne better? No. Your logic is severely flawed.

 

And even if more people did like rock over any other genre, that doesn't make it the best. It's about the quality of the music, not the quantity of people that like it.

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Metal is not Rock N Roll, keep in mind, it's about the same level of "fandom" as rap and hip hop, as a sub-genre on it's own, so that alone is saying something. Disturbed (original band) is a thrash or straight up metal style band, it's not going to have mass appeal, and we are talking GLOBAL MASS APPEAL of any one type of music, it is ROCK MUSIC, I've no doubt about it

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we are talking GLOBAL MASS APPEAL of any one type of music, it is ROCK MUSIC, I've no doubt about it

You fail to see the point. THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT THE BEST!

 

How dense are you?

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In My Humble Opinion, the weakest is not the best, Rock is the strongest segment, outside of Country Music, if the USA is the example. I am speaking historically about modern music, the last 40 years in particular, not just what any current trend tells you, most members active here are ten to twenty years old. I'd say the influence and impact extends beyond that time frame. It has very little to do with quality of music, in terms of what I'm saying....quality is a non-issue, I'm talking most loved style of genre.

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