TBOGT a bit of a dissapointment? (spoilers)

[ImperialLiberty]

I liked the Ballad of Gay Tony, especially the nightlife aspect of it that definitely puts in a Vice City feeling into it. What I was not too happy about was the mission "Not So Fast". I argee with Leo that is broke with the uniformity of the whole situtation and made it too over the top. It did not feel right with the Buzzard and shooting down 2-3 helicopters and whatever amount of cops at the ground level. Johnny and Niko had the better points of view in my opinion.

[HusseinintheBrain]

I'm very happy with TBoGT. The atmosphere is great and after reading how over-the-top everything is I was surprised how much I liked and cared about the characters, particularly Tony through all his ups and downs, and Yusuf who I expected to be tiresome I liked a lot, particularly after he pulls a Han Solo at the end. I'm glad I avoided spoilers because I really didn't know if Tony was going to die or not. I didn't think Luis would kill him but I thought he'd kill himself or get killed and leave Luis to run things with his old friends becoming employees or something. It was time for a happy ending and I'm glad we got one.

 

Gameplay-wise I have little to complain about. You get to have most of what was in the previous episodes and a lot of cool news stuff. Maybe you get everything too easily, but it's OK for one episode to have sci-fi weapons, a helicopter gunship, and a tank whenever you want. People who play GTA by spawning stuff with cheat codes certainly shouldn't complain that the character gets a lot of stuff so easily. I don't think you even have to steal cars in this Grand Theft Auto, people give them to you or your friend does it for you, lol.

One of my main gripes with the concept of GTA IV, it ain't Grand Theft Auto anymore when your cousin owns a cab company, your in a biker gang and you have your own customized bike, and your best friend from the hood can get you an APC with an explosive turret. I mean seriously, what in the f*ck went thru the creators heads with this game?

[Algonquin Assassin]

Delete.

Edited November 4, 2009 by Miamivicecity

[LCstuntman]

 

One of my main gripes with the concept of GTA IV, it ain't Grand Theft Auto anymore when your cousin owns a cab company, your in a biker gang and you have your own customized bike, and your best friend from the hood can get you an APC with an explosive turret.  I mean seriously, what in the f*ck went thru the creators heads with this game?

What the f*ck are you going on about?

[archiebunker]

I think he's talking about having access to vehicles beyond just carjacking them. I disagree.

[HusseinintheBrain]

I think he's talking about having access to vehicles beyond just carjacking them. I disagree.

This.

 

I just find it doesn't make much sense to call it Grand Theft Auto when you really don't have to jack people anymore.

[deathdealer]

I think he's talking about having access to vehicles beyond just carjacking them. I disagree.

This.

 

I just find it doesn't make much sense to call it Grand Theft Auto when you really don't have to jack people anymore.

well, you don't have to call to get those vehicles delivered. you can still steal cars.

[Algonquin Assassin]

Oh now I get what he means. I mean you can still do the traditional jacking of cars. There's just other options now.

[General Goose]

You wanna jack cars? Jack em, but extra options are nice.

[bigj480]

I haven't played TLAD yet and I haven't played TBoGT online yet, but these things disappoint me in no particular order:

 

No upgraded crib

The fight club is lame

Few slots for saving cars

No nitrous outside of races

Still no code to torn off cops

Can't pilot the Skyhook helicopter

Some clubs closed after completing story mode

"Swift" nowhere to be found after completing story mode(right?)

 

I'm sure I'm missing some, but that's most of it. Am I being too picky? Well, some of these issues could have been easily remedied and are common sense.

 

 

 

 

[Slamman]

My whole thread "This Sucks" covers the same things, but most people in that thread did not agree with my "gripes", I hate to be picking on GTA, I've loved the game, and obviously here for that reason, but Uncharted 2 is better then GTA at the moment, for that realistic game play with battling on screen and graphics of the environment, even the control of the character is better in a way. So, yeah, disappointment springs from that as well.

 

For Lost and the Damned, I started that portion AFTER BoGT was initiated, and I do find there's differences. Billy leading the club down dangerous routes in LaTD has a palpable feel, where as BoGT seems a lighter, comical approach.

As far as I played, there seems a dark and lighter, funny side between the two episodes

[yakprince]

Every club is open @ the end of the game for me...

[Slamman]

The Lost and Damned really expanded my view on GTA IV's events, TBOGT has failed to do that for me, I should of expected it really but if anything Luis' story is the one I disliked most because of the whole atmosphere and crowd it went for, not my style, it is way more mainstream than TLAD and appeals to the San Andreas crowd, this is the expansion they wanted, unlike TLAD which is getting sh*t on now by "GTA fans" which I think is unfair, we lack true Rock and Biker fans around here!

Oh will you stop it with the San Andreas stuff already, both games have parachute's that's the like only thing they share in common, you should say "the vice city" crowd because TBOGT gives you sort of a happy feeling when you play the game similar to Vice City.

 

I like San Andreas the least, I played it the least and I liked it the least. Yet I absolutely love TBOGT so it has nothing to do with San Andreas, jesus the only thing they share in common are parachutes for christ's sake!

They have a lot more in common than just the parachutes mate, The Dancing, The throwing up, The sex mini-game, and just the general Over The Top vibe the feels out of place against the others.

I didn't like the bikes outside of the choppers, and they musta improved the handling as pointed out when the first DLC dropped.

 

I like it, the dirty, serious vibe, hate the ugly chicks, the DM station on LCHC is VERY well done, for a change, but just too short given the amount of metal music out since the genre took off, there's so much that could make the cut!

Still, I love that. BoGT does strike for a different aspect in Liberty City, and ultimately that's what Sam Houser was excited in showing, he's the master of all Rockstar North, and though not all his ideas made the game (petrol was voted down), I would put stock in what he suggests the studio will try with GTA. Dan Houser writes or co-writes the stories, so it's interesting that they cange tact each time. I just like the timelines merging so we relive some of the game's exploits through another character in LC, but that can also wear it's novelty out. As some are tired of even Liberty revisioned already, but in a way, it allows the games to develop without re-plotting all the environment, it really adds some speed and creativity in a way. I just think the PS3 owners need their come-uppance at this point, we need to see worthy DLC for both machines at this point, after all, it was relatively un-fair to make it one machine only

[Algonquin Assassin]

You wanna jack cars? Jack em, but extra options are nice.

Yep just like the inclusion of taking taxis. I think some people take the name "Grand Theft Auto" a bit too literally.

 

You can steal as many vehicles as you like, but now especially with GTA IV, and its expansion packs there other ways of getting around if you don't want to steal all the time.

[truehammer]

 

The Lost and Damned really expanded my view on GTA IV's events, TBOGT has failed to do that for me, I should of expected it really but if anything Luis' story is the one I disliked most because of the whole atmosphere and crowd it went for, not my style, it is way more mainstream than TLAD and appeals to the San Andreas crowd, this is the expansion they wanted, unlike TLAD which is getting sh*t on now by "GTA fans" which I think is unfair, we lack true Rock and Biker fans around here!

I agree with this guy, TLAD will be underrated from now on. Some people saying TBOGT is ten times better are crazy. Both good for different reasons.

[Nightwing 0613]

I only have 3 problems with TBoGT

 

1. Yacht only accessible in one mission

2. Bahama Mama's only accessible in one mission, eventhough it was hyped up more than any other club.

3. I was hoping Luis would get some new fighting moves since he is a brawler & does compete in the Cage Fighter scene.

 

I don't care too much about the Safehouse, i think the one he had was decent. But i would've liked if he got another one like a penthouse suite or something that Yusef hooked him up with. I also didn't like how Split Sides & the Cabaret Club were closed down for Luis, but open for both Johnny & Niko. I don't get that desicion at all. Clothing stores being closed down for Luis bothered me as well, but it isn't that important to me. Since the only outfits i liked were his original one & the Club Business one.

 

The only 3 problems i had with TLaD was the 2 gang clubhouses.

 

1. Angels of Death was only enterable in 1 mission.

2. The Lost Clubhouse was in fact the best safehouse ever out of all 3 stories combined. Til this day, i am still pissed about what happened to it.

3. Malc didn't become a friend of Johnny's. He was such a cool character. The ability to have Johnny hang out with him would've been cool.

 

Jousters would've been a cool place for Johnny to vist and chill.

[RomanViking]

Been playing EFLC today. Started with Gay Tony, was impressed with the noticeably crisper graphics.

 

I went into the gay club, but was disappointed by how tiny it is...

 

Maisonette 9 seems a tad better though.

 

Then I started playing Lost and Damned. Voice acting seems good, and cutscenes are nice and long. The graphics don't look as nice as Gay Tony's though..

 

So far I've played LaD more than BoGT, because I promised myself I'd play the "lesser" game first. The Lost Clubhouse is cool, but the missions so far are disappointing.

 

So far I've rode bikes in formation while the bikers exchange gossip and profanity, and killed like a dozen Angels of Death, and it's only been an hour! For a man who openly expresses his desire for a "truce", he sure kills a lot of them...

 

I'm gonna play some Gay Tony, perhaps start a new game, and actually watch the cutscenes this time

 

 

[Nightwing 0613]

 

The Swift is available at the western algonquin helipad before the conclusion of the game, when it will be replaced by the buzzard.  Tbogt was great, BUT WHY CAN:T YOU GO IN BUILDINGS YOU WENT IN ON MISSIONS FOR CHRISSAKES.  THEY PUT SO MANY HOURS INTO MAKING that stuff andthen they SEAL IT OFF. WHHYYY??  meh.

You can go back inside the building in the mission "Chinese Takeout" mission.

 

Not sure about the Liberty City Rampage office.

 

 

So far I've rode bikes in formation while the bikers exchange gossip and profanity, and killed like a dozen Angels of Death, and it's only been an hour! For a man who openly expresses his desire for a "truce", he sure kills a lot of them...

 

He only starts to kill AoD members because Billy comes back from rehab wanting to continue the war aggainst them. Johnny was the one who settled the truce between them, but Billy broke it upon getting released. He doesn't really have a choice.

Edited November 5, 2009 by Darkseid

[Ash_735]

So far I've played LaD more than BoGT, because I promised myself I'd play the "lesser" game first. The Lost Clubhouse is cool, but the missions so far are disappointing.

 

So far I've rode bikes in formation while the bikers exchange gossip and profanity, and killed like a dozen Angels of Death, and it's only been an hour! For a man who openly expresses his desire for a "truce", he sure kills a lot of them...

See, here's where a bit of Biker knowledge comes in, Johnny wanted to keep the truce with the AOD and he did when he was President, but since Billy came back, Johnny was relegated to V.P., which would help with choices in the gang, but Billy also turns on Johnny, ignoring his words and choices for the gang. Billy being president openly starts the war on the AOD in the street by killing one of the main members, the rest of the gang have to just go along with it. In turn because of this the AOD now despise Johnny to as they think he has gone back on his word.

[RomanViking]

Okay I get it now

 

Back on Gay Tony: The NOOSE Tank disappoints, while it can plow through traffic without even slowing down, the tank's "cannon" just plain sucks.

 

You're aiming at a pursuing car behind you, you unload a shell- inevitably miss, and then the camera switches back to looking forward EVERY SINGLE TIME

 

Also, no matter how high up you're falling from, no matter how fast you're falling, you can still open the parachute no matter how close you are to the ground and it instantly slows you down

 

So much for realistic skydiving!

[Darrel]

 

So much for realistic skydiving!

Who said it would be?

 

I haven't played the game, but it seems pretty good to me. Not entirely realistic, yet more realistic than the skydiving in saints row 2. I think it was just supposed to be fun! Not realistic.

[PearlHarborPants]

It is abit, they showed us all the good missions already and those that we have not seen werent very mind-blowing... Niko's Story is probably the best but its because it had 100+ missions to tell a story... Johnny's and Luis' have only 5X lesser....

 

Next GTA in Next Gen Consoles, Dont read any news at all except the announcement of it.... See how mind-blown are we when we play a game we know nothing about.

[bigj480]

 

Okay I get it now 

 

Back on Gay Tony: The NOOSE Tank disappoints, while it can plow through traffic without even slowing down, the tank's "cannon" just plain sucks.

 

You're aiming at a pursuing car behind you, you unload a shell- inevitably miss, and then the camera switches back to looking forward EVERY SINGLE TIME 

 

Just drive with the camera out side of the car and push down on the left stick to shoot them. I think the APC rocks, I keep my phone out and go on a rampage, hitting the "A" button to refill health every so often.

 

 

Also, no matter how high up you're falling from, no matter how fast you're falling, you can still open the parachute no matter how close you are to the ground and it instantly slows you down 

 

So much for realistic skydiving! 

 

Look, I'm picky too, but this isn't meant to be a skydiving sim. The skydiving is just fine for this type of game, it would limit the fun if the skydiving was realistic, you would have to be much higher to safely jump and that would be inconvenient at times. What's next, should they add wind gusts and chute malfunctions?

Edited November 5, 2009 by bigj480

[Slamman]

In San An, no one was worried about realism, eh?!?! haha

I take it you don't recall riding a motorbike off a highrise and landing just fine on it?!?

[Useless Dave]

Okay I get it now

 

Back on Gay Tony: The NOOSE Tank disappoints, while it can plow through traffic without even slowing down, the tank's "cannon" just plain sucks.

 

You're aiming at a pursuing car behind you, you unload a shell- inevitably miss, and then the camera switches back to looking forward EVERY SINGLE TIME

 

Also, no matter how high up you're falling from, no matter how fast you're falling, you can still open the parachute no matter how close you are to the ground and it instantly slows you down

 

So much for realistic skydiving!

Not all tanks are "LOL THIS IS GONNA MAEK EVRYTHIN GO BOOM", kid. There are more tanks in real life with cannons like those, than that whole "I WANA MAEK WORLD GO BOOM IN 1 SHOT" thing you've got going there.

 

And that's about as realistic sky diving we'll ever get in a video game, I don't think you know what real sky diving is like.

[Cilogy]

The major thing I was disappointed with in TBOGT was the multiplayer.

 

Team Deathmatch is frustrating. It seems much more fast-paced in a bad way. The arenas selected seem way to f*cking small. The problem is that you have essentially no time to move before trying to kill the next guy. I have played several times and each time I kill an enemy, another spawns like two feet away. Surprisingly I still manage to come out on top averaging about $2000 - $3000 per game. However it is still frustrating.

 

These smaller sized areas are fun occasionally, but I would have liked playing TBOGT muiltiplayer on a very large map, like the entire island of Algonquin or something like that, instead of two tiny blocks downtown.

 

Also there are no unique modes, like TLAD has included. I would have liked an upgraded Cops & Crooks or some new mode that relates to the story of TBOGT.

 

 

 

The NOOSE APC is a "okay." I say this mainly because the gun on the top is not awkward in that it can severely damage and destory vehicles, however it takes two shots to kill a person on the street.

 

Also, it doesn't seem as versatile as you would think when you first look at it. You can take about 3 - 4 explosions from cars you run over before the APC itself explodes, which seems a bit weak.

 

But the rest of it is understandable considering the "realism" aspect of GTA IV.

[Hove Beach]

Expect from everything that's already been said I think that Bulgarin was the most dissapointing thing. They really made him into a bad character from beeing one of the best. I had really high hopes on him and when the first trailer came out I couldn't believe that the guitar guy was Bulgarin as some guys was saying on this forum. But as it turned out it was him... One of the worst mistakes from Rockstar

[GTA_dog]

To answer the title, No! Is reading a book a disappointment to you because you thought it would be better a movie. Its good no matter what. Everyone has to find something to complain about. You all suck!

[Sexual Chocolate]

Nope, not a single bit.

 

TBoGT (and TLAD) raised the bar for DLC. And it's easily the best 40$ spent, ever.

[roman]

Now, I don't have the game, but it seems to be a real plus!

 

The only thing I want from it is Roman as a random character, there could be an intense mission for him (like the great Petrovic sends armies of Russians after Roman and you must save him). Or maybe more from that guy named Renaud. He seemed to be a very interesting person.