mylungsareburnin01 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 are not an upgrade over the older ones. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgrogfefji82 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I disagree, I prefer all the new ones over the old ones actually. Well, maybe the M4 is easier to use in combat than the advanced machine gun. But that's about it, the advanced machine gun is a hell of a ot more epic too use though. The silenced p90 beats every other SMG in the game / PERIOD! The automag beats the other pistols, sounds really badass when you use it, looks badass and will like stun enemies, they'll fall over or atleast get a serious knock from being shot with it, drains around 75% of the health with a body shot if not more. The advanced sniper rifle sure as sh*t kicks the ass out of the other two snipers, no f*cking doubt about it, one shot one kills, I love this thing snipers in GTA has never really been my thing, but killing people with this thing is awesome The sticky bombs are better than grenades, no f*cking doubt more fun to use too. The explosive shotgun.. I mean do I really even need to tell you why it's better and more powerfull? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059597875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Colt Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I also disagree. They all seem to pack more punch than the original set of weapons. Even TLADs. The P90 isn't as good as I was expecting, but it's still pretty fun to use. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059597917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody242 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) I think the UZI is better than the P90. I think it's quicker and more powerful. And yes I also disagree, the .44 was the only gun I was disapointed with, and the grenade launcher is better than the one in L&D Edited October 30, 2009 by woody242 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059597951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mylungsareburnin01 Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 the sniper is better in vanilla, the auto shotty is stronger at close range in TLAD and the advanced mg has terrible accuracy. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059598095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody242 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 the advanced mg has terrible accuracy. Good thing it holds up to 200 bullets. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059598122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
satchboogie Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 the sniper is better in vanilla, the auto shotty is stronger at close range in TLAD and the advanced mg has terrible accuracy. I like the new sniper riffle, but no doubt it takes some getting used to. The auto shotty I find extremely powerful close range (I can take out someone with full health/armor in 2-3 shots). An Advanced MG DOES have pretty bad accuracy, that is just the way the gun is. It isn't supposed to be a marksman/long range weapon. What realistic games have you ever played where an advanced MG was accurate? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059598281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUNATICBRAND0N Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 What realistic games have you ever played where an advanced MG was accurate? Real Life Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059598301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XZGamer71 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I think of it in 4 Classes of Weapons in GTA IV. Street Gangster Weapons - Baseball Bat, Assualt Rifle, Pistol, Micro SMG, Pump Shotgun, Molotovs and the Sniper Rifle Advanced Weapons - Knife, Carbine Rifle, Combat Pistol, SMG, Combat Shotgun, Grenades and the Combat Rifle Bikers Weapons (All the new Weapons in TLAD) - Pool Cue, Automatic 9mm, Sawn Off, Grenade Launcher and the Pipe Bomb. (I didn't include the Assualt Shotgun 'cus i think it other Shotgun is more suitable for a Biker.) Elite Advanced Weapons - (All the new TBOGT Weapons exept the Gold SMG) Pistol .44, Explosive Shotgun, Assault SMG, Advanced MG, Advanced Sniper, Sticky Bombs, Parachute So... I'd say the Elite Advanced Weapons are more suitable (Btw, i made up these Classes and their names) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059598343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostDigga Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 What realistic games have you ever played where an advanced MG was accurate? Real Life Yeah, the M249 SAW is actually pretty accurate as far as LMG's go. I guess you have to balance the game somehow... My only problem is that it sounds like a BB gun or something.... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059598621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Bellend Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Are all the TLAD weapons available in TBOGT. I'm not that far in yet and was just curious. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059598761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
satchboogie Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 (edited) What realistic games have you ever played where an advanced MG was accurate? Real Life Yeah, the M249 SAW is actually pretty accurate as far as LMG's go. I guess you have to balance the game somehow... My only problem is that it sounds like a BB gun or something.... The MG in the game is fairly standard. As with any real life LMG, it has a high level of recoil and it's not quite as accurate as a riffle. Try firing more than 3 bursts and it is almost impossible to be precise, even when trying to compensate. The LMG's are best used (in the game) either close range, or in quick bursts. I find it is fairly effective medium to long range if I just shoot 1-3 rounds at a time and compensate for the kick. Having high-recoil and not so great accuracy makes perfect sense in GTA. When you carry a LMG, you hold it at your hip and will only raise it to your eye level if you are crouched (even that is hard). When you are shooting a LMG at the hip, there is simply no way you can be accurate at medium to long range, and you will have a lot of recoil to compensate for. The only way to counter this is to use a tripod, which you don't have in the game. Anyone who expects a LMG to be as accurate as an assault riffle with low-recoil, they are insane. All LMG's have a ton of recoil, you have to compensate. Edited October 31, 2009 by satchboogie Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059599158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostDigga Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 (edited) *snip* Anyone who expects a LMG to be as accurate as an assault riffle with low-recoil, they are insane. All LMG's have a ton of recoil, you have to compensate. EDIT: I completely trailed off and ended up giving a long ass review of each weapon that no one probably wants to read, so keep on scrolling No I understand that completely, it just seemed like the bullets weren't firing straight. Like 45 degree angle inaccuracy you know what I mean? It's also painfully ineffective at medium-long ranges as if the bullet loses speed after it's traveled 50 feet. But that's just GTA's way of having different ranges for the weapons. At close ranges it's great though, it's such a rush to take out 3 convoys of gangsters with one trigger pull. Now for the Automatic Shotgun... it's kind of strange... I can see how it's a like-able weapon, but I think (and I'm not being an ass) I could've thought of a better use for the AA-12 and a better list of weapons to put in the game. I'm glad you can buy standard rounds, but the rate of fire should've bumped up to Assault Shotgun levels (which incidentally fired way too fast in TLAD) when you substituted FRAG-12 rounds with buckshot. That would've made it a lot better to balance with the other weapons IMO. The Pistol .44 is great, I think it would've been better as a Raging Bull revolver, but I'll take it over the other pistols anyday. But one thing that stumped me was it seems like the damage is never constant. I can get one hit kills on 4 or 5 people, hitting them in the torso mind you, but only take half of someone else's health in the exact same circumstances. Other than that it's great. The P90 is great, almost a little too good (since the NOOSE teams now have them, much to my dismay). I came in thinking it was a short range weapon and using it that way, but the thing performs like an assault rifle at medium and long ranged. I still wish the suppressor actually worked, even though it wouldn't work in real life, it should've worked like "silenced" guns do in the movies or the pistol in SA. The Gold SMG is... eh... it's good. It's gold, which is okay with me, but it takes too long to get it in single player and I can't get it from the cheat menu . But it performs well, sounds nice, looks nice, an all around nice gun. The DSR-1 was probably my favorite weapon going in, but I hardly ever get to use it in the single player and in free roam. It's works nice and looks nice, but I'm not yet comfortable with using it yet. IMO the only decent sniper rifle we've had in GTA IV. But sniping and GTA's game mechanics don't really blend too easily. All in all I'm pretty happy with the weapons, some people might not like them though because they're situational. The sounds are a bit iffy, especially the M249's sounds like I said before. But they're great for now. Edited October 31, 2009 by GhostDigga Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059599415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullMetal Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Finally got to play around properly with TLAD for a short while and TBOGT yesterday. Damn, the only weapon that is worse than IV's basic loadout is the ".44 Pistol". For some reason pissing at enemies is more effective... Love the exaggerated weapons... still they fit in the atmosphere and the city. Good job, now we need the episodes for PC! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059599428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HusseinintheBrain Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I like all the new weapons but I have one gripe about the AA-12, they should've used the APC's turret firing speed for the AA-12 as it would've been closer to the real thing, plus it fires almost as slow as the pump shotgun. Oh yeah, I tried to make an epic explosion in Star Junction by blocking traffic and attaching sticky bombs to all the cars in the road, when I hit the detonator, they all disappear, wtf? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059599429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wenis IV Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Are all the TLAD weapons available in TBOGT. I'm not that far in yet and was just curious. Yes, they are Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059599438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostDigga Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I like all the new weapons but I have one gripe about the AA-12, they should've used the APC's turret firing speed for the AA-12 as it would've been closer to the real thing, plus it fires almost as slow as the pump shotgun. Yeah that's exactly how I feel too. The Assault Shotgun fired way too fast and the Explosive Shotgun fires way too slow. I can see slowing it down when you have explosive rounds in it to balance it out, but KAMAN. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059599445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostDigga Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Are all the TLAD weapons available in TBOGT. I'm not that far in yet and was just curious. Yes, they are I've only seen the grenade launcher... have you seen the other weapons personally? Because I think the IGN guys assumed they were all in because of the Launcher being in. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059599452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoSlaysTigers Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Are all the TLAD weapons available in TBOGT. I'm not that far in yet and was just curious. Yes, they are I've only seen the grenade launcher... have you seen the other weapons personally? Because I think the IGN guys assumed they were all in because of the Launcher being in. Ya, the .44 sucks balls. Give me the glock or automatic 9mm any day. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430601-some-of-the-new-weapons/#findComment-1059599459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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