zeppelincheetah Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I know this has been mentioned before but now that I have seen it for myself there's no way around it: Packie Mcreary is the next protagonist. Why would they show him out of nowhere getting on a plane and flying away (the plane taking off the runway is the very last thing we see when the credits say "the end")? The very last thing we saw in TBOGT was Luis on the roof of the Libertarian... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimbaud Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I think it's obvious, and I think it's a great decision to pick Packie as the next Protagonist. To start with he will have depth: Anyone who has completed 4's main story and took the time to do activities with Packie will already know him well. He will start with a storied past in the next game, but one which Rockstar wouldn't have to unravel like Nko's in 4 because we already know it. They can throw Packie right into the action. And as he learns new things about himself, we will. He's still young: In 4, set in 2007, he's in his mid 20's, by the release of the next game he will be roughly in his late 20's, the perfect age for a protagonist. Old enough to not be some idiot kid in over his head, yet still young enough to be energetic and get through those crazy gta situations. He's well liked by the fans: If you were to look through every thread on this entire forum you'd likely find hundreds if not thousands of posts by people wanting Packie to be in the next DLC/or Game. He has reason to start a new life away from Liberty City : One of his brothers is dead, another in Prison, and, depending on which ending you pick in 4, Packie's sister is dead. His family has pretty much fallen apart. The crime family has very little power left, also. Packie is also a good pick if Rockstar do chose a European setting. Say if the next game was set in Paris? Wouldn't it be easier to bridge the gap between the cultures, and to keep us from not getting too lost in translation, by using an English speaking character? Someone who would have to cope with the language difficulties the same as us? This would bring a new dynamic to the game. Think of how Niko's English got better as his story went along. Then imagine Packie's French getting better every mission, as he picks up slang, listens to phases on the radio, people talking on the street, ect. As he learns the language, in a way, so would we. Emerging us even more into the world, which IMO, has been Rockstar's main priority in the GTA 4 Era. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059596591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wenis IV Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 To be honest I'd rather not have packie the protagonist. I thought he was kind of a dull character and not too memorable.. but I agree that the ending credits does hint largely at him being the next one. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059596658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis F. Lopez Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 ^ I disagree, I think Packie was just as memorable a character as Roman. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059596671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wenis IV Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 ^ I disagree, I think Packie was just as memorable a character as Roman. Funny thing is, I never really cared for Roman either lol. Maybe its just Packie's accent.. I dont know, I'm probably in the minority on this Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059596722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I'd have thought the DLCs would've tied any loose ends and we'd have an entirely new character set for the next proper GTA installment, but it seems there are still a lot of questions. Should be interesting to see what happens. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059597882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flesh-n-Bone Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 ^ I disagree, I think Packie was just as memorable a character as Roman. Funny thing is, I never really cared for Roman either lol. Maybe its just Packie's accent.. I dont know, I'm probably in the minority on this Tbh, I am not a fan of non-American accents when speaking English and Packie's one of the few I actually enjoyed listening to while speaking with an accent. Now say, if the accent was like Kent Paul or Barry (from Vice City Stories), full stop, just a simple 'no' would be enough for me to express myself. But Packie was a likable character and I wouldn't mind having him as main character, specially in a setting described by rimbaud. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059597905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nic_23 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 if they gonna base the next gta in modern day vice city then i dont think they would use him Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059597932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScratchCard Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 if they gonna base the next gta in modern day vice city then i dont think they would use him Which means nothing, because we don't know if it'll be set in VC. I'd like Packie as a protagonist, seeing him after IV's ending, starting a new life. There's still a lot to be told about him and his family (from when they were on top). And Packie would fit in great in Paris, indeed. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059597950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsar_Smirnoff Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I definitely think he'll show up in the next installment, but I don't think he'll be the main character....I can't ever remember a time when Rockstar has used a main character that had showed up in previous games.....could happen though I guess, after all, it is a new era for GTA. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059597957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt21 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 oh god i hope not Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059597986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScratchCard Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I can't ever remember a time when Rockstar has used a main character that had showed up in previous games Toni Cipriani Victor Vance Claude Speed, sort of -Scratch Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059598024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjeem Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 if they gonna base the next gta in modern day vice city then i dont think they would use him Which means nothing, because we don't know if it'll be set in VC. I'd like Packie as a protagonist, seeing him after IV's ending, starting a new life. There's still a lot to be told about him and his family (from when they were on top). And Packie would fit in great in Paris, indeed. You want it to be set in Paris? I would either think he would suit, a Big city, and Crime city in Ireland? Dunblin mabey...I'm not sure Or mabey Chicago, Aparently theres alot of Irish hoodlums there these days. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059598211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I think Rockstar will do a swerve and have you kill Mr. McReary. I think Packie's always been a guy with a self-destructive streak. And without his family around or Niko to calm him down I think he'll make too many enemies in his new home. I mean, the guy's loyal enough but he's an addict. Not the kind of guy you should be playing as. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059598664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akavari Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Toni CiprianiVictor Vance Claude Speed, sort of -Scratch[/color][/font][/size] change your font ffs i can't read it clearly and it stings my eyes Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059598679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjeem Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Wow, just because it's shown in the final cutscne might mean he be in the NeXt GTA, but not as the protag, i mean he might be, but it doesn't mean crap. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059598683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowaah Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I just don't understand, why everyone keeps it under spoiler? It's nothing exciting, just you know who will be next. I feel start someone damn spoiled big secret, like when i heard from 2 doctors from area69 the all alien thing is fake. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059598772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppelincheetah Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 I think it will be as loosely tied to the IV stories as the III games were tied to eachother. The IV trilogy has several intertwining characters and they had something that really tied everything together: the diamonds. Every story involved the diamonds to some degree. This wasn't the same in the III games. There was nothing that held the games together other than being set in the same universe and involving some of the same characters. This is how I think Packie's story will be. He may only come across one other person from the whole IV saga. There won't be any diamonds to closely tie his story to the other IV stories. His story is after the other three games. The three IV games occurred at roughly the same time. And, lastly and most obviously Packie's story will take place in a new location, completely alien to the now familiar Liberty City. This makes Packie's game very different from a mere expansion. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059598776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal000 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 So now you're back to having Packie leave Liberty City. You were all the people that told me that "Packie said he never left Liberty City" back in my GTA Ireland idea. So I guess no, I don't want him since the majority of the people here said they didn't. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059598784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppelincheetah Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 Wow, just because it's shown in the final cutscne might mean he be in the NeXt GTA, but not as the protag, i mean he might be, but it doesn't mean crap. You're right. Packie definitely has some role in GTA's future but not necessarily the protagonist. But, like I said before, at the end of TLAD they showed Luis. This might be something Rockstar does from now on, tease us with the next one at the end of the credits. I hope so! GTA III had a very obvious clue as well "see you in miami". One of the latter missions has you escort Ray Machowski to the airport so that he can go to Miami. No other city is mentioned like that. In recent GTA's they mention so many places that it's kind of ridiculous to try to figure out where the next one will be just by what's mentioned in the game. Having Packie move to an unfamiliar place is exactly what has happened to every other protagonist when the game is in a new location. With the episodes we (the player) are already familiar with Liberty City by playing Niko's story. I think it would seem awkward to play as a character that's starting anew in Liberty City when we've been experiencing the city for several months already. You don't change my mind though. I think it makes more sense that Packie will be the next protagonist. He's a fan favorite and maybe Rockstar was paying attention to the fans. I personally am not much of a fan of Packie. He's one of my favorite characters in IV but IV overall has very lousy characters so that's not saying much. I wouldn't mind at all playing as him though. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059599500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriaan Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 In the bank heist it seemed like they talked about going to Ireland afterward... given his Irish mob ties it could easily be UK/Ireland. I remember how R* talked about picking NYC for GTA IV because the R* NYC guys knew the city well and for R&D purposes it was easy for them to develop. So UK/Ireland is a good choice because most R* North guys are from around there, so they know it pretty well in comparison to say Miami. I started getting a hunch a month ago that the next location is UK, now I believe it even more! Oh and someone mentioned the plane took off east direction... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059599686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldee Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I f*cking love Packie. I'll hope it truly is him. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059599857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViceCity09 Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I hope to see Packie in the next gta but not as the main character. I think we should always have a brand new character, and also Packie is a dull and boring character for me and if we have a protaganist from GTA IV then it could get old. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059599975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScratchCard Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 In the bank heist it seemed like they talked about going to Ireland afterward... What did they say? I just replayed the mission and didn't hear anything like that. -Scratch Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059599977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicologikal Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 In the bank heist it seemed like they talked about going to Ireland afterward... What did they say? I just replayed the mission and didn't hear anything like that. -Scratch Derrick says "This reminds me of the Troubles" Troubles occurred in Northern Ireland in the 70's. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059600383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BVJ Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I see no reason why Packie might not be in the next GTA. Other characters from one version turned up in other versions, such as Catalina and Kent Paul. Maybe Packie will play a role in the next but not be the main protagonist, acting as a bridge from one series to the next, especially if the next one is set in London/Europe. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059600432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScratchCard Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 In the bank heist it seemed like they talked about going to Ireland afterward... What did they say? I just replayed the mission and didn't hear anything like that. -Scratch Derrick says "This reminds me of the Troubles" Troubles occurred in Northern Ireland in the 70's. Which means.. what? If Niko says 'While I was in the war', does that mean he plans to go back to Eastern Europe with his money? -Scratch Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059600778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenJoel Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Packie as a main character I can definitely see. Paris though, no... My prediction is that it's gonna be a HUGE map consisting of three islands meant to represent Britian, Scotland, and Ireland. Packie had family in the IRA, maybe he goes to see what's available in Ireland and he gets involved in conflict over the three countries. I don't see why they would do Vice City or San Andreas again either... Seems old to me. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059605593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyMufc-Champs Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I have completed tbogt but i accidently skipped the ending credits Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059605670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oc student Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 (edited) 1997 - Jermaine Andrews 1984 - Phil Bell 2008 - Niko Bellic (GTA IV Protagonist) 2002 - Teddy Benavidez 1981 - Sammy Botino 1993 - Joe Corrola 1976/1983 - Rudy D'Avanzo 1998 - Joe DiLeo 2006 - Adam Dimayev 2000 - Frankie Gallo 2005 - Oscar Gomez 1944 - Jon Gravelli 1985 - Brian Jeremy 1991 - Johnny Klebitz (GTA LaD Protagonist) 2005 - Huang Lee (GTA CW Protagonist) 2001 - Luis Lopez (GTA BoGT Protagonist) 1997 - Packie McReary 1958 - Harvey Noto 1973 - Jimmy Pegorino 2000 - Lenny Petrovic 1996 - Lyle Rivas 1997 - Terry Thorpe 1998 - Willy Valerio 1990 - Roy Zito A possible hint maybe? The people who have been convicted of Grand Theft Auto in the police database in the ORIGINAL GTA 4. Maybe one of these guys..... Edited November 8, 2009 by oc student Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/430505-next-gta-protagonist-tbogt-end-credits-spoilers/#findComment-1059619785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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