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Money Over Bullshit

The Possible Trinity

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DragonYisusXD
On 5/25/2020 at 12:11 PM, HOW'S ANNIE? said:

Sorry for the double post, but something I might add if M.O.B or any other user ever decides to update this list. I've been replaying TLAD, I noticed that the Ancelotti fuel depot Niko destroys in Actions Speak Louder Than Words isn't destroyed in TLAD until Diamonds In The Rough. Meaning Gerrys two missions should be moved a bit further down, some time after Hostile Negotiation. Granted though this would also break up the nicely clumped McReary Arc, and push back Blood Brothers and Undertaker back. But the entire point in this thread was to make the most comprehensive list possible based on what evidence we have in-game.

 

I think if I'm to play all three consecutively again, Niko's missions would look somewhat like this:

 

[GMC] Actions Speak Louder Than Words

[GMC] I Need Your Clothes, Your Boots and Your Motorcycle

[RB] Taking In the Trash

[RB] Meltdown

[FMC] Blood Brothers

[PMC] Undertaker

[GMC] I'll Take Her

[RB] Museum Piece

that's interesting, in my game that ancelotti fuel depot never was destroyed in my TLAD and also it's never get destroyed in The Ballad of Gay Tony, it's strange

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13 hours ago, VENEZUELA Z said:

that's interesting, in my game that ancelotti fuel depot never was destroyed in my TLAD and also it's never get destroyed in The Ballad of Gay Tony, it's strange

Which version are you playing? I've got the 360 version of EFLC and the fuel depot is always destroyed after Diamonds in the Rough.

 

With TBoGT though you're defintley right, I've never seen it destroyed even by 100% completion.

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2 hours ago, HOW'S ANNIE? said:

Which version are you playing? I've got the 360 version of EFLC and the fuel depot is always destroyed after Diamonds in the Rough.

 

With TBoGT though you're defintley right, I've never seen it destroyed even by 100% completion.

PC versión, in fact, i had to change it manually that place like modding for the depot place being destroyed and I always change in after Off route or This sh*t's cursed and in "Momma's Boy" the mod is called: The Complete Liberty City HD (the mod mix GTA IV and EFLC Map) and I do it because in my TLAD it never change that place

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3 hours ago, HOW'S ANNIE? said:

Which version are you playing? I've got the 360 version of EFLC and the fuel depot is always destroyed after Diamonds in the Rough.

 

With TBoGT though you're defintley right, I've never seen it destroyed even by 100% completion.

now that i think about it, there's many things differently in pc version, for instance in my PS3 version after "It's War" i always saw in the Liberty Tree Page, the events of "Rigged to Blow" and soon after, the events of "Roman Sorrow" but in PC version, it only show you "Roman Sorrow" and in GTA IV, after "Logging On" you can see the events of "Clean and Serene" in Liberty City Page on PC version (idk about the consoles)

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Money Over Bullshit
On 8/5/2020 at 1:31 AM, DragonYisusXD said:

PC versión, in fact, i had to change it manually that place like modding for the depot place being destroyed and I always change in after Off route or This sh*t's cursed and in "Momma's Boy" the mod is called: The Complete Liberty City HD (the mod mix GTA IV and EFLC Map) and I do it because in my TLAD it never change that place

So this only happens with that particular mod enabled? Correct??

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1 minute ago, Money Over Bullsh*t said:

So this only happens with that particular mod enabled? Correct??

it's not a script , you can put it manually but the change will still there until you change it back, i'm no good scripting gta 4

4 minutes ago, Money Over Bullsh*t said:

So this only happens with that particular mod enabled? Correct??

i'm uploading a new update, so the download link won't be available until i upload it, and since the mod is are literally almost 7 GB then yeah

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Money Over Bullshit
4 minutes ago, DragonYisusXD said:

it's not a script , you can put it manually but the change will still there until you change it back, i'm no good scripting gta 4

i'm uploading a new update, so the download link won't be available until i upload it, and since the mod is are literally almost 7 GB then yeah

This list is only to be used in conjunction with the base games. But that's interesting nonetheless.

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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, Money Over Bullsh*t said:

This list is only to be used in conjunction with the base games. But that's interesting nonetheless.

oh yeah of course, i will stop talking about that

 

still though i've never seen that depot place change in TLAD, i might be wrong

Edited by DragonYisusXD

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Money Over Bullshit
1 hour ago, DragonYisusXD said:

oh yeah of course, i will stop talking about that

 

still though i've never seen that depot place change in TLAD, i might be wrong

So it changes in TBOGT? Or am I misunderstanding?

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DragonYisusXD
Just now, Money Over Bullsh*t said:

So it changes in TBOGT? Or am I misunderstanding?

neither in TBoGT

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On 8/4/2020 at 11:19 PM, HOW'S ANNIE? said:

Which version are you playing? I've got the 360 version of EFLC and the fuel depot is always destroyed after Diamonds in the Rough.

 

With TBoGT though you're defintley right, I've never seen it destroyed even by 100% completion.

Is this in the Complete Edition or the DLC?

 

Either way can you provide me with evidence? I don't mean to be a doubting Thomas but I'd like any changes to be as official as can be.

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4 hours ago, Money Over Bullsh*t said:

Is this in the Complete Edition or the DLC?

 

Either way can you provide me with evidence? I don't mean to be a doubting Thomas but I'd like any changes to be as official as can be.

It's from a retail copy of EFLC, from when the game released in 2009. If you give me a couple of days so I have a spare 3 or 4 hours to speedplay TLAD I'll happily provide some photos.

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Posted (edited)
On 8/23/2020 at 4:32 AM, Money Over Bullsh*t said:

Is this in the Complete Edition or the DLC?

 

Either way can you provide me with evidence? I don't mean to be a doubting Thomas but I'd like any changes to be as official as can be

Sorry for the double post, but here it is. My apologies on the camera pics, this 360 hasn't been connected to the internet in years. This is directly after completing Diamonds in the Rough, sure enough it was destroyed 

https://imgur.com/a/PEoFLEF

 

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5 hours ago, HOW'S ANNIE? said:

Sorry for the double post, but here it is. My apologies on the camera pics, this 360 hasn't been connected to the internet in years. This is directly after completing Diamonds in the Rough, sure enough it was destroyed 

https://imgur.com/a/PEoFLEF

 

Ok, I'll probably need a while to ponder this and see if there are any restrictions and such.

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On 8/5/2020 at 12:19 AM, HOW'S ANNIE? said:

Which version are you playing? I've got the 360 version of EFLC and the fuel depot is always destroyed after Diamonds in the Rough.

 

With TBoGT though you're defintley right, I've never seen it destroyed even by 100% completion.

X360 EFLC uses the same map assets in both games. So that means you can see new exteriors of Maisonette, Bahama Mamas and others. While on PC release of EFLC (pre-Complete Edition) updated locations can be seen only in TBoGT.

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3 hours ago, Money Over Bullsh*t said:

Ok, I'll probably need a while to ponder this and see if there are any restrictions and such.

I'll let you make that decision yourself, it is your list afterall. As far as I'm aware it doesn't contradict anything, or causes any "restrictions". It does however require the clumping together of more TBoGT missions that don't visually look nice on the list.

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On 8/25/2020 at 7:39 AM, HOW'S ANNIE? said:

I'll let you make that decision yourself, it is your list afterall. As far as I'm aware it doesn't contradict anything, or causes any "restrictions". It does however require the clumping together of more TBoGT missions that don't visually look nice on the list.

ok guys, i've seen in PC version and you guys are right, depot fuel is destroyed after Diamonds on the Rough, but you can't reach to "Museum Pieces" without kidnapping gracie, which also you can't do before "Undertaker" and for that you need to complete all McReary's Mission

if i'm remembering correctly, you can reach to Frosting on the Cake by only doing tony's mission, however, for unlocking ...Blog This and Not So Fast, you need to complete 

 

Momma's Boy and Corner Kids

 

Sexy Time and High Dive

 

(i'm still don't sure if you need to pass Kibbutz Number One)

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Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, DragonYisusXD said:

ok guys, i've seen in PC version and you guys are right, depot fuel is destroyed after Diamonds on the Rough, but you can't reach to "Museum Pieces" without kidnapping gracie, which also you can't do before "Undertaker" and for that you need to complete all McReary's Mission

if i'm remembering correctly, you can reach to Frosting on the Cake by only doing tony's mission, however, for unlocking ...Blog This and Not So Fast, you need to complete 

 

Momma's Boy and Corner Kids

 

Sexy Time and High Dive

 

(i'm still don't sure if you need to pass Kibbutz Number One)

 

I don't think the list needs all that much reworking. I haven't done a complete playthrough like this, but just remove Gerrys missions (and all following McReary missions) from where they currently are, a bit further down the list.

 

[GMC] Actions Speak Louder than Words

[GT] Frosting on the Cake 

[RB] Diamonds in the Rough 

[RB] Taking in the Trash

[RB] Meltdown

[GMC] I Need your Clothes, your Boots and your Motorcycle

[GT] ... Blog This

[FMC] Blood Brothers

[GT] Boulevard Baby

[PMC] Undertaker

[GMC] I'll Take Her

[RB] Collector's Item

[RB] Museum Piece

[GT] Not so Fast

 
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12 hours ago, HOW'S ANNIE? said:

 

I don't think the list needs all that much reworking. I haven't done a complete playthrough like this, but just remove Gerrys missions (and all following McReary missions) from where they currently are, a bit further down the list.

 

[GMC] Actions Speak Louder than Words

[GT] Frosting on the Cake 

[RB] Diamonds in the Rough 

[RB] Taking in the Trash

[RB] Meltdown

[GMC] I Need your Clothes, your Boots and your Motorcycle

[GT] ... Blog This

[FMC] Blood Brothers

[GT] Boulevard Baby

[PMC] Undertaker

[GMC] I'll Take Her

[RB] Collector's Item

[RB] Museum Piece

[GT] Not so Fast

 

there's an idea i have, you can put Clocking Off after Not So Fast, because you need to complete Clocking Off and ...Blog This for unlocking Bulgarin's missions

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12 hours ago, HOW'S ANNIE? said:

 

I don't think the list needs all that much reworking. I haven't done a complete playthrough like this, but just remove Gerrys missions (and all following McReary missions) from where they currently are, a bit further down the list.

 

[GMC] Actions Speak Louder than Words

[GT] Frosting on the Cake 

[RB] Diamonds in the Rough 

[RB] Taking in the Trash

[RB] Meltdown

[GMC] I Need your Clothes, your Boots and your Motorcycle

[GT] ... Blog This

[FMC] Blood Brothers

[GT] Boulevard Baby

[PMC] Undertaker

[GMC] I'll Take Her

[RB] Collector's Item

[RB] Museum Piece

[GT] Not so Fast

 

it's look so quickly but the fact that you have to wait the next day of Blood Brothers to do Undertaker really f*cked up

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HOW'S ANNIE?
On 8/31/2020 at 4:42 AM, DragonYisusXD said:

there's an idea i have, you can put Clocking Off after Not So Fast, because you need to complete Clocking Off and ...Blog This for unlocking Bulgarin's missions

I personally wouldn't put it that far into the story. I'd just "skip" it temporarily so you can the shortest possible route to completing Yusuf's missions and Bang Bang before Deconstruction For Beginners. So the order goes I Luv LC > Chinese Takeout > Momas Boy > Corner Kids > Sexy Time > High Dive > Caught With Your Pants Down > Practice Swing > Bang Bang > Clocking Off.

 

On 8/31/2020 at 4:59 AM, DragonYisusXD said:

it's look so quickly but the fact that you have to wait the next day of Blood Brothers to do Undertaker really f*cked up

Unless you leave The Holland Play or the ULP missions until this point, there's not much you really can do here without breaking the timeline. It seems it must go next.

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2 hours ago, HOW'S ANNIE? said:

I personally wouldn't put it that far into the story. I'd just "skip" it temporarily so you can the shortest possible route to completing Yusuf's missions and Bang Bang before Deconstruction For Beginners. So the order goes I Luv LC > Chinese Takeout > Momas Boy > Corner Kids > Sexy Time > High Dive > Caught With Your Pants Down > Practice Swing > Bang Bang > Clocking Off.

 

Unless you leave The Holland Play or the ULP missions until this point, there's not much you really can do here without breaking the timeline. It seems it must go next.

oh well you can do Blood Brothers in the night and save the game 6 hours to 7 am

2 hours ago, HOW'S ANNIE? said:

Unless you leave The Holland Play or the ULP missions until this point, there's not much you really can do here without breaking the timeline. It seems it must go next.

i don't play so much at night (neither in TLAD and TBoGT) so it's ok with me 

1 minute ago, DragonYisusXD said:

oh well you can do Blood Brothers in the night and save the game 6 hours to 7 am

but is necessary to complete blood brothers before 00:00 or you have to wait 2 days

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Money Over Bullshit

Ok, I've made some quick edits. Let me know if there are any issues.

 

I must say though it does seem a bit illogical in retrospect to have Blood Brothers, I'll Take Her and Undertaker happening so close together.

 

In I'll Take Her and Undertaker Packie speaks about his brother being dead and then says he's just been shot. In Undertaker he also says that Gerry's just been arrested. Then the next minute he's already in Alderney State Correctional which he describes as "the pen" - a prison for people convicted of serious crimes. There's no way he would be arrested, tried and convicted all in the same month, let alone the same week so to have the two missions happen close together is a little crazy to say the least. The pacing of Ray Boccino's missions somewhat dictates it though.

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13 hours ago, Money Over Bullsh*t said:

Ok, I've made some quick edits. Let me know if there are any issues.

 

I must say though it does seem a bit illogical in retrospect to have Blood Brothers, I'll Take Her and Undertaker happening so close together.

 

In I'll Take Her and Undertaker Packie speaks about his brother being dead and then says he's just been shot. In Undertaker he also says that Gerry's just been arrested. Then the next minute he's already in Alderney State Correctional which he describes as "the pen" - a prison for people convicted of serious crimes. There's no way he would be arrested, tried and convicted all in the same month, let alone the same week so to have the two missions happen close together is a little crazy to say the least. The pacing of Ray Boccino's missions somewhat dictates it though.

not only packie, in the news talk abut gerry being arrested last night

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8 hours ago, DragonYisusXD said:

not only packie, in the news talk abut gerry being arrested last night

Lol 😄

After 12 years I think it's fairly evident that the game actually wasn't as realistic as we thought. 

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i know this has nothing to do, but this is how it could have been the trilogy if TBoGT started before Three Leaf Clover

 

I Luv LC (Mission)

Off Route

Chinese Takeout

This sh*t's Cursed

Final Interview

Sexy Time

Hit the Pipe

Mommas Boy

Heavy Toll

Deconstruction for Beginners

Corner Kids

Ruff Rider

End of Chapter

The Snow Storm

Practice Swing

Bad Standing

Lure

Kibbutz Number One

Photo Shoot

Marta Full of Grace

Wrong is Right

Clocking Off

Portrait of a Killer

Shifting Weights

Dust Off

Have a Heart

Roman's Holiday

Harboring a Grudge

Malc (encounter 1)

Blog This...

Paper Trail

Waste Not Want Knots

Dave (encounter)

Hostile Negotiation

Malc 2 

Long Way to Fall

Three Leaf Clover

I luv LC (Intro) + Bang Bang (Without Destroying the crane)

Action Speaks Louder than Words

Frosting on Cake

Diamods in the Rough

Taking in the Trash

High Dive

Boulevard Baby

Meltdown

...Blog This

I Need your Clothes, your Boots and your Motorcycle

Museum Pieces

Not So Fast

Collector's Item

Smackdown

Was it Worth it ?

No Way on the Subway

Keeps Your Pants Down

Babysitting

Late Checkout

Get Lost

Going Deep

Undress to Kill

Weekend at Florians

Truck Hustle

Dropping in

Tunnels of Death

Blood Brothers

This ain't checkers

Pegorinos's Pride

Holland Play...

Undertaker

No. 3

Payback

I'll Take Her

...Holland Play

Ransom

Catch the Wave

Ladies Night

Tresspass

She's a Kepper

For the Man who has Everything

Flatline

To Live and Die in Alderney

In the Crosshair

Diamods are girl's best friend

Ladies Half Price

Entourage

Pest Control

Dining Out

Liquidize the Assest

That Special Someone

One Last Thing

If the Price is Right/A Dish Served Cold 

Mr. and Mrs Bellic

Party's Over

A Revenger's Tragedy/ Out of Comission

Departure Time

 

there's still many things i didn't like with this list

Just now, DragonYisusXD said:

I Luv LC (Mission)

before this mission could be place Call and Collect and First Part of Final Interview

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