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Money Over Bullshit

The Possible Trinity

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lilchris131

Maybe instead of being cut, Chinese Takeout could have had the triad boss saying their organisation took a big blow after the shootout with the bikers, indicating it had already happened. That would have been much nicer. And I would say Billy and Brian got into the "barroom shootout" with the triads and Brian ran off, then Billy ran out of ammo or something and the triads beat him up (with weapons or fists). The police came and killed/arrested the triads attacking Billy and then arrested Billy. That's my best guess anyway, it really is a bit odd!

 

And to be honest TLAD wasn't perfect in it's timing, I mean Roman's Holiday and Diamonds in the Rough were set up literally at the same time, where in reality Niko still has missions for the PBX/Dwayne, possibly ULPC and Packie to do before working for Ray, if that makes sense. Not to mention Ashley giving a mission from two different places, I think there must have been a mission or two cut that was supposed to be between those two missions. That is the only complaint though.

 

Also TBoGT kind of assumes Niko works for Gerry and Derrick straight after the bank job, because Frosting in the Cake is set up a while after I Luv LC, meaning he works for Ray later. This is the complete opposite of TLAD which basically indicates he works for Ray first then the McReary's later.

 

I guess we just have to make do with the cards dealt though! Fun topic all the same.

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Maybe instead of being cut, Chinese Takeout could have had the triad boss saying their organisation took a big blow after the shootout with the bikers, indicating it had already happened. That would have been much nicer. And I would say Billy and Brian got into the "barroom shootout" with the triads and Brian ran off, then Billy ran out of ammo or something and the triads beat him up (with weapons or fists). The police came and killed/arrested the triads attacking Billy and then arrested Billy. That's my best guess anyway, it really is a bit odd!

 

And to be honest TLAD wasn't perfect in it's timing, I mean Roman's Holiday and Diamonds in the Rough were set up literally at the same time, where in reality Niko still has missions for the PBX/Dwayne, possibly ULPC and Packie to do before working for Ray, if that makes sense. Not to mention Ashley giving a mission from two different places, I think there must have been a mission or two cut that was supposed to be between those two missions. That is the only complaint though.

 

Also TBoGT kind of assumes Niko works for Gerry and Derrick straight after the bank job, because Frosting in the Cake is set up a while after I Luv LC, meaning he works for Ray later. This is the complete opposite of TLAD which basically indicates he works for Ray first then the McReary's later.

 

I guess we just have to make do with the cards dealt though! Fun topic all the same.

Yes that is true. I think maybe there was a mission that was intended to come in between Roman's Holiday and Diamonds in The Rough and it was cut quite late in development. Either that or Roman's Holiday was originally meant to be a prerequisite for Diamonds in the Rough and they just messed up a bit.

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lol232

Its actually at a later part of the cutscene when Niko is talking to Roman. I think thats just the smoke from the oil refinery in Alderney.

IIRC The particle count over there was increased from 20 to 30 via patch and that that smoke is named "CJ_Plane_Debris" or something similar in the game files. It's also there in "A Revenger's Tragedy" but you can't see it through the trees. And that kinda creates a loophole because Timur mentions Dimitri being dead in "Departure Time".

My theory is:

1. Revenge is the canon ending

2. The ending is up to the player but in case of Deal ending happening this could be the theory:

a) They assumed he won't survive since they were probably told that he was being chased by an Annihilator

b) Dimitri went into hiding so they assumed he was iced

 

That fact that it's located above Alderney just means that the plane was meant to crash near Alderney in beta.

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Trogdorv20x6

Good job on this! Appreciate the effort. I also loved GTA IV and its episodes. Currently playkng GTA V and online for ps4 right now but i still love gta iv's story.

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Thelema93

This topic helped me out a lot thank you MOB. I'm gonna try and make a perfect story playthrough of all three games and hopefully post it on youtube. Even including small stuff like doing certain friendship or girlfriend hangout conversations at certain points in the story. For example in a conversation with Michelle she will say that niko seems really agitated and niko will say he's having trouble in his work,I do this one when niko and roman are forced to hide out in bohan because at that point in the story niko is very agitated And another one she will ask if niko has any drugs because her cousin needs some for a bachelor party,I do this one when niko starts working for elizebeta torres because it sounds like she's trying to get niko to confess about working for a drug dealer. And many other things like this

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Money Over Bullshit

This topic helped me out a lot thank you MOB. I'm gonna try and make a perfect story playthrough of all three games and hopefully post it on youtube. Even including small stuff like doing certain friendship or girlfriend hangout conversations at certain points in the story. For example in a conversation with Michelle she will say that niko seems really agitated and niko will say he's having trouble in his work,I do this one when niko and roman are forced to hide out in bohan because at that point in the story niko is very agitated And another one she will ask if niko has any drugs because her cousin needs some for a bachelor party,I do this one when niko starts working for elizebeta torres because it sounds like she's trying to get niko to confess about working for a drug dealer. And many other things like this

This sounds interesting. I'll look forward to watching it :^:

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Yu Jian

Yeah, top notch topic. I've never done it this way before. I have done playthroughs based on realism, but never on mission order, this sounds like fun. I've wanted to do this for awhile now. Hopefully I get to it soon.

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Thelema93

Has anybody seen youtube channel

"gta series videos" chronological mission order. I can't decide which one is more accurate that one or this one.

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Money Over Bullshit

Has anybody seen youtube channel

"gta series videos" chronological mission order. I can't decide which one is more accurate that one or this one.

I can safely say this is the most accurate list on the net. I'm not sure if the video playlist was based on the order in this topic but from what I can see there's not much in the difference.

 

I've actually been thinking about how the trinity would work if all three stories were incorporated into one game and structured like GTA V (complete with character switching) and I think it would not only work pretty well but it would also solve some of the problems encountered while playing through the list (most notably the Liz Torres situation). Obviously it would be a bit awkward given the sketchy appearences of other protagonists in Johnny and Luis's intros and the fact that there's no clear segway into Johnny's story but it would also mean that we would be forced to complete Elizabeta's mission strand with Johnny before advancing past the Snow Storm with Niko. I might try to put together a table to demonstrate how this would work.

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lilchris131

 

Has anybody seen youtube channel

"gta series videos" chronological mission order. I can't decide which one is more accurate that one or this one.

I can safely say this is the most accurate list on the net. I'm not sure if the video playlist was based on the order in this topic but from what I can see there's not much in the difference.

 

I've actually been thinking about how the trinity would work if all three stories were incorporated into one game and structured like GTA V (complete with character switching) and I think it would not only work pretty well but it would also solve some of the problems encountered while playing through the list (most notably the Liz Torres situation). Obviously it would be a bit awkward given the sketchy appearences of other protagonists in Johnny and Luis's intros and the fact that there's no clear segway into Johnny's story but it would also mean that we would be forced to complete Elizabeta's mission strand with Johnny before advancing past the Snow Storm with Niko. I might try to put together a table to demonstrate how this would work.

 

 

When I first played the GTA IV and TLAD stories together (like back in the old Best of Both Worlds topic) I kind of pictured Johnny's Elizabeta missions happening right after she cuts off contact with Niko, partly because of Andreas being there. The other reason being that Liz contacts Niko again for "The Snow Storm" just one mission after "Blow Your Cover" whereas Johnny still has quite a few missions after "Buyer's Market" before she contacts him again for "Heavy Toll", if that makes sense.

 

The fact that "Roman's Holiday" and "Diamonds in the Rough" were set up at the same time really was a head scratcher though. Maybe there could be a "reordering" of the TLAD missions so that they could be played in this order:

 

Buyer's Market

Politics

Coming Down

Off Route

Heavy Toll

Marta Full of Grace

Shifting Weight

Roman's Holiday

This sh*t's Cursed

Hit the Pipe

End of Chapter

Bad Standing

Diamonds in the Rough

 

I feel that if Liz's missions were unlocked around the same time as Stubbs instead of after Billy gets arrested things would flow a lot better. Thoughts on this?

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lilchris131

^

 

A bit of an error I made there was forgetting Johnny meets Malc (who helps out in Heavy Toll) in "Hit the Pipe" so maybe it would have to be more like

 

Buyer's Market

Politics

Coming Down

Off Route

This sh*t's Cursed

Hit the Pipe

Heavy Toll

Marta Full of Grace

Shifting Weight

Roman's Holiday

End of Chapter

Bad Standing

Diamonds in the Rough

 

Not so good after all then but still makes a little gap between Roman's kidnapping and the diamond theft.

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Money Over Bullshit

I've actually been thinking about how the trinity would work if all three stories were incorporated into one game and structured like GTA V (complete with character switching) and I think it would not only work pretty well but it would also solve some of the problems encountered while playing through the list (most notably the Liz Torres situation). Obviously it would be a bit awkward given the sketchy appearences of other protagonists in Johnny and Luis's intros and the fact that there's no clear segway into Johnny's story but it would also mean that we would be forced to complete Elizabeta's mission strand with Johnny before advancing past the Snow Storm with Niko. I might try to put together a table to demonstrate how this would work.

 

I got half way through the table before figuring out that it doesn't actually solve the Elizabeta problem :/

 

I thought I would finish it off anyway though so here it is:

[table]

 

 

Niko

 

Johnny

 

Luis

 

 

 

[R] The Cousins Bellic

[R] It's Your Call

[R] Three's a Crowd

[R] Bleed Out

[M] First Date

[R] Easy Fare

[R] Jamaican Heat

[LJ] Concrete Jungle

[V] Bull In a China Shop

[V] Hung Out to Dry

[V] Clean Getaway

[V] Ivan the Not So Terrible

[R] Uncle Vlad

[R] Crime and Punishment

[MF] Do You Have Protection?

[LJ] Shadow

[MF] Final Destination

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[MF] No Love Lost

[bK] Logging On

[MF] Rigged to Blow

[bK] Search and Delete

[bK] Easy As Can Be

[DR] The Master and the Molotov

[DR] Russian Revolution

[R] Roman's Sorrow

[ME] Escuela of the Streets

[ME] Street Sweeper

[bK] Out of the Closet

[bK] No. 1

[E] Luck of the Irish

[E] Blow Your Cover {2W}

[ME] The Puerto Rican Connection

[E] The Snow Storm

[FMC] Call and Collect

[E] Have a Heart

[PMC] Harboring a Grudge

[PMC] Waste Not Want Knots

[RB] A Long Way to Fall

[PMC] Three Leaf Clover

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[FMC] Final Interview

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[DMC] Smackdown

[FMC] Holland Nights

[FMC] Lure

[GMC] Actions Speak Louder than Words

[GMC] I Need Your Clothes, Your Boots and Your Motorcycle

[DMC] Babysitting

[DMC] Tunnel of Death

[FMC] Blood Brothers

[PMC] Undertaker

[X] Deconstruction for Beginners

[D] Ruff Rider

[D] Undress to Kill

[X] Photo Shoot

[R] Hostile Negotiation

[X/D] The Holland Play

[uLP] Wrong Is Right

[uLP] Portrait of a Killer

[uLP] Dust Off

[uLP] Paper Trail

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[RB] Taking In the Trash

[RB] Meltdown

[GMC] I'll Take Her

[RB] Museum Piece {3W}

[RB] No Way on the Subway

[RB] Late Checkout

[RB] Weekend at Florian's

[PMC] Ransom

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[GMC] She's A Keeper

[bC] Hating the Haters

[bC] Union Drive

[bC] Buoy's Ahoy

[PB] Truck Hustle

[JP] Pegorino's Pride

[JP] Payback

[PB] Catch the Wave

[PB] Trespass

[PB] To Live and Die In Alderney

[GMC] Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend {2W}

[G] Entourage

[G] Dining Out

[G] Liquidize the Assets

[JP] Flatline

[JP] Pest Control

[uLP] That Special Someone

[JP] One Last Thing

[DR] If the Price Is Right / A Dish Served Cold

[R] Mr. & Mrs. Bellic

[LJ] A Revenger's Tragedy / Out of Commission

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-

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-

-

-

[bG] Clean and Serene

[bG] Angels In America

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[J] Liberty City Choppers

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-

-

-

[bG] It's War

[bG] Action/Reaction

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-

[E] Buyer's Market {2W}

[J] Bad Cop Drop

Politics

[A] Coming Down

Off Route

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[bG] This sh*t's Cursed

[J] Hit the Pipe

[E] Heavy Toll

[E] Marta Full Of Grace

[E] Shifting Weight

[J] End of Chapter

[J] Bad Standing

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[A] Roman's Holiday

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[RB] Diamonds In the Rough {2W}

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[RB] Collector's Item {3W}

[RB] Was It Worth It?

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Get Lost

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[GT] I Luv LC

[GT] Chinese Takeout

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[ML] Momma's Boy

[ML] Corner Kids

[ML] Clocking Off

[YA] Sexy Time

[YA] High Dive

[YA] Caught With Your Pants Down

[GT] Practice Swing

[GT] Bang Bang

[MK] Kibbutz Number One

[MK] This Aint Checkers

[MK] No. 3

[GT] Blog This!

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[GT] Frosting On The Cake {2W}

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[GT] Not So Fast {3W}

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[GT] Ladies' Night

Going Deep

Dropping In

[YA] For The Man Who Has Everything

In The Crosshairs

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[GT] Ladies Half Price {2W}

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[RP] Party's Over

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[GT] Departure Time

 

 

[/table]

 

This might actually be a more definitive order. The best way to work through the table would be to work left to right. Niko's missions would theoretically start the cycle so if there is a gap between them then all missions in the previous rows would need to be completed before moving on. Alternatively if a mission occupies a row on its own then all missions before it would need to be completed beforehand and no more would appear until it is done. I'm sure they use a more complex system in GTA V in order to force you to switch to somebody to advance the story but I'm not quite sure what it is. If anybody knows then let me know.

 

I've implimented some symbols for switching - {2W} signifies a two-way switch where switching is available between two characters and {3W} signifies a three-way switch where switching is available between all three characters. In all cases the corresponding missions would be available for all three characters but the mission name, perspective and outcome would be different depending on who triggered it.

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lilchris131

Like I said in my post I think the only way the Elizabeta problem would be solved is if the prerequisites/ordering somehow got changed a bit for TLAD. However, I kind off missed the point by thinking this was more of a remastering "What If" while I assume you are pretending to imagine a system similar to that of V's??

 

Since I am playing through V right now I'm not really sure there are many cases that force you to switch protagonist. I know there is a gap for Franklin and Michael after the Jewel Store Heist and you have to play as Trevor for quite a run of mission while they are lying low. Other than that, after every few missions for one character (although obviously many can be triggered by either Franklin, Michael or Trevor) there is usually at least a mission for another character needed to advance the story. Kind of hard to compare with IV's trinity because Niko has more missions than either Johnny or Luis whereas there is a more equal split between the protagonists in V.

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Money Over Bullshit

Like I said in my post I think the only way the Elizabeta problem would be solved is if the prerequisites/ordering somehow got changed a bit for TLAD. However, I kind off missed the point by thinking this was more of a remastering "What If" while I assume you are pretending to imagine a system similar to that of V's??

 

Since I am playing through V right now I'm not really sure there are many cases that force you to switch protagonist. I know there is a gap for Franklin and Michael after the Jewel Store Heist and you have to play as Trevor for quite a run of mission while they are lying low. Other than that, after every few missions for one character (although obviously many can be triggered by either Franklin, Michael or Trevor) there is usually at least a mission for another character needed to advance the story. Kind of hard to compare with IV's trinity because Niko has more missions than either Johnny or Luis whereas there is a more equal split between the protagonists in V.

Yeah my intention was to plot how a game based on GTA IV and it's Episodes would theoretically go if it were structured similar to GTA V. Obviously there are quite a few flaws but it could technically work if they made some slight changes. Niko has more missions on his own than all three of V's protagonists put together - this being one of the major downsides however using the table allows for a more distinct definition of what missions are bound in time and which ones can be completed at any time between two set points.

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Thelema93

Would anybody be interested in making a list for V.

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Money Over Bullshit

Would anybody be interested in making a list for V.

GTA V is pretty linear in terms of story but if you think you can come up with one I say go ahead.

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Would anybody be interested in making a list for V.

GTA V is pretty linear in terms of story but if you think you can come up with one I say go ahead. yeah good point, there aren't enough missions for different people to make a list worth reading. There are a few missions you can do in certain order to give the story better flowing but I won't bother listing it in the IV section.

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Would anybody be interested in making a list for V.

GTA V is pretty linear in terms of story but if you think you can come up with one I say go ahead.
yeah good point, there aren't enough missions for different people to make a list worth reading. There are a few missions you can do in certain order to give the story better flowing but I won't bother listing it in the IV section.

 

I'd actually like to see the list. Do you have reasons for the order etc?

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lol232

Would anybody be interested in making a list for V.

I think I might be able to do that.

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Thelema93

I'm also working on one right now and I'll post it when I'm done. should we make a separate thread for it? or just stay in this one?

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Money Over Bullshit

I'm also working on one right now and I'll post it when I'm done. should we make a separate thread for it? or just stay in this one?

It depends on how detailed it is. Maybe post it here first and see if others think it deserves its own thread.. you know how people can get about these things.

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lol232

I'm also working on one right now and I'll post it when I'm done. should we make a separate thread for it? or just stay in this one?

You could show a sample here once you're done, I'm looking forward to seeing it!

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Thelema93

I apologise if it looks a bit messy I'm typing this on my iPod, this is my current list. And you'll notice sometimes I'll explain my reasoning for puting the missions in that certain order.

Prologue

Franklin and lamar

Repossesion

Pulling favours

Complications

By this point Franklin and Lamar have lost there repo jobs so it makes more sense to do chop after complications because it seems like Lamar would plan the kidnapping while there both unemployed and in need of money and the fail of the plan can be motivation for Franklin to start working with Michael because he's sick of Lamars screw ups and what's to get serious and start making some cash.

Then I'll do michaels first couple missions

Father/son

Marriage counselling

Then friend request because I doubt after pulling down the house and being threatened by madrazo michael would go straight home and sit on his ass watch a movie then go cycling with jimmy, it makes more sense to to friend request straight away.

Casing the jewel store

Long stretch

Daddy's little girl

It's seems like Michael would relax at home before doing the prep work for the heist and spend the last moments of retirement with his family.

Bugster van

BZ gas

Jewel store job

Mr phillips

Trevor phillips industries

Nervous ron

Crystal maze

friends reunited

Fame or shame

Then I'll do all the FIB stuff back to back to focus on that story arc ( michael will also be away from home a lot)

dead man walking

Threes a company

I'll do by the book before scouting the port because at the warehouse where you torture Mr K at you can see the port of Los santos in the background and maybe trevor saw it and thought it was worth investigating for something to steal. If you do scouting the port before by the book its kinda weird that trevor knows about the port even if he hasn't been around that area. You could of course go around there in free roam beforehand but I think it's better for story reasons for trevor to see it in the background in the by the book mission.

Scouting the port

Mini sub

Merryweather heist

Then I'll do somebody say yoga after all the FIB stuff and the MW heist because michael has been away from home a lot and during the mission Amanda says " your out there doing god only knows what" and if you do somebody say yoga before all the FIB an MW heist it dosent really make sense if Amanda says that because M hasn't Been away that much.

I put hood safari after MW heist because during the intro cut scence of MW heist trevor talks to franklin like an ass and a stranger like they haven't really interacted.

Hood safari

Hotel assaination

I put hotel assaination after hood safari because in the cutscence for hood safari franklin says he wants to get some rest but why would he want to go to his aunts place to rest when he has his very own vinewood mansion and why would chop be there?

Blitz play&prep missions

I fought the law

Mr Richards

Eye in the sky

Caida libre

deep inside

Minor turbalance

Paleto score setup

Predator

Military hardware

Paleto score

Derailed

Monkey business

Hang ten

Surveying the score

Bury the hatchet

Pack man

Dead meat

Ballad of rococo

Cleaning out the burea

FIB prep and heist

Wrap up

I put reuniting the family after Ballad of rococo and the FIB heist because I think that the phone call to Amanda at the end of ballad of rococo about michael becoming an producer is good justification for the family deciding to come back.

Lamar down

Legal trouble

Meltdown

The big score prep and heist

Ending

 

Let me know what you think. If you think anything needs to be changed or I made an error of some kind please feel free to let me know. I've got a more detailed one that includes the stranger and freaks and random events. If you liked this one I might post it.

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I apologise if it looks a bit messy I'm typing this on my iPod, this is my current list. And you'll notice sometimes I'll explain my reasoning for puting the missions in that certain order.

Prologue

Franklin and lamar

Repossesion

Pulling favours

Complications

By this point Franklin and Lamar have lost there repo jobs so it makes more sense to do chop after complications because it seems like Lamar would plan the kidnapping while there both unemployed and in need of money and the fail of the plan can be motivation for Franklin to start working with Michael because he's sick of Lamars screw ups and what's to get serious and start making some cash.

Then I'll do michaels first couple missions

Father/son

Marriage counselling

Then friend request because I doubt after pulling down the house and being threatened by madrazo michael would go straight home and sit on his ass watch a movie then go cycling with jimmy, it makes more sense to to friend request straight away.

Casing the jewel store

Long stretch

Daddy's little girl

It's seems like Michael would relax at home before doing the prep work for the heist and spend the last moments of retirement with his family.

Bugster van

BZ gas

Jewel store job

Mr phillips

Trevor phillips industries

Nervous ron

Crystal maze

friends reunited

Fame or shame

Then I'll do all the FIB stuff back to back to focus on that story arc ( michael will also be away from home a lot)

dead man walking

Threes a company

I'll do by the book before scouting the port because at the warehouse where you torture Mr K at you can see the port of Los santos in the background and maybe trevor saw it and thought it was worth investigating for something to steal. If you do scouting the port before by the book its kinda weird that trevor knows about the port even if he hasn't been around that area. You could of course go around there in free roam beforehand but I think it's better for story reasons for trevor to see it in the background in the by the book mission.

Scouting the port

Mini sub

Merryweather heist

Then I'll do somebody say yoga after all the FIB stuff and the MW heist because michael has been away from home a lot and during the mission Amanda says " your out there doing god only knows what" and if you do somebody say yoga before all the FIB an MW heist it dosent really make sense if Amanda says that because M hasn't Been away that much.

I put hood safari after MW heist because during the intro cut scence of MW heist trevor talks to franklin like an ass and a stranger like they haven't really interacted.

Hood safari

Hotel assaination

I put hotel assaination after hood safari because in the cutscence for hood safari franklin says he wants to get some rest but why would he want to go to his aunts place to rest when he has his very own vinewood mansion and why would chop be there?

Blitz play&prep missions

I fought the law

Mr Richards

Eye in the sky

Caida libre

deep inside

Minor turbalance

Paleto score setup

Predator

Military hardware

Paleto score

Derailed

Monkey business

Hang ten

Surveying the score

Bury the hatchet

Pack man

Dead meat

Ballad of rococo

Cleaning out the burea

FIB prep and heist

Wrap up

I put reuniting the family after Ballad of rococo and the FIB heist because I think that the phone call to Amanda at the end of ballad of rococo about michael becoming an producer is good justification for the family deciding to come back.

Lamar down

Legal trouble

Meltdown

The big score prep and heist

Ending

 

Let me know what you think. If you think anything needs to be changed or I made an error of some kind please feel free to let me know. I've got a more detailed one that includes the stranger and freaks and random events. If you liked this one I might post it.

 

Yeah, go for it.

 

Just out of curiosity, can you actually play "The Bureau Raid" and "The Wrap Up" before "Reuniting the Family"? I don't think I've ever done that.

 

Just a few suggestions:

 

. Maybe it's just the way I play, but I think I'd put "Did Somebody Say Yoga?" after "Dead Man Walking" and before "Three's Company". It makes a little bit more sense to me for Michael to head straight home after being stripped down to his underwear, and once his family's left him, head over to see Dave because he's got nothing else to do.

 

. I might also put "Daddy's Little Girl" between "Friend Request" and "Casing the Jewel Store"; I think Michael would wrap up all his family business (including "The Good Husband") before he gets to work on the jewelry store job.

 

. I'd put "Nervous Ron" between "Mr. Philips" and "Trevor Philips Industries", so Trevor can follow up with the Lost right after killing Johnny K. and do his missions with Cheng one right after the other.

 

* Your order works fine, but I usually play "Eye in the Sky" right after "I Fought the Law...", since I can just run over to the police station as Trevor.

 

 

. Although I play it in your order, I might hold off on "Deep Inside" until after "Surveying the Score". Lamar says he got Franklin's GPS location from Trevor, and it'd make more sense to me if T was in LS at the time rather than hiding out in Blaine County.

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Yeah you can play reuniting the family after burea raid and wrap up. It makes sense that michael would go home and relax after all of the business with the burea is put to rest. It's kinda weird if you do reuniting the family before burea raid and wrap up because his family just came back and he immediently goes and pulls off a risky heist after he promises to stay alive.

 

I usually do somebody say yoga after all the business with the burea and the MW heist is done because Michael has been away from home a lot commiting more crimes with trevor and Amanda says during the mission " ever since that pyscotic best pal of yours has shown up you've turned into an even bigger ass hole"

and plus during by the book Michael mentions something he just said to his wife suggesting that Amamda is still living there and they have been fighting more since trevor showed up.

There is also a way to go home after dead man walking without triggering reuniting the family. You can just go threw the back door.

 

I agree with your point about daddy's little girl

 

I usually put trevor phillips industries straight after mr phillips because I don't think trevor would keep his Chinese partners waiting. And while he was meeting with the Chinese contact the bikers rand sacked his trailer and when he heads home after the meet he discovers it. And while trevor is dealing with the bikers the triads decide to go with the o'neils instead.

 

I agree with your point about puting deep inside after surveying the score. It also solves the problem of having deep inside and pack man so far apart. It makes more sense to have eye in the sky more apart from deep inside because at the end of eye in the sky devin is catching a plane somewhere and probably dosen't need franklin steal the next car until he gets back to LS.

 

I appreciate your input.

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I would put "Legal Trouble" before "Lamar Down". At the end of LT, Solomon says invitations are on the way, and it's not until after LD that Michael's family starts commenting about the movie (Amanda posts in Michael's Lifeinvader that she just got the invitation, which can't happen before Solomon sends it in LT). Besides, I don't think Devin would have waited until the very last moment before the premiere to plug on the movie.

 

By the way, what's the dialogue if you do "Chop" at the moment you chose? I know Lamar complains about Simeon not caring about them and wanting extra income if you do it before "Complications", and apparently Franklin talks about having a new contact if done after "Father/Son", but I don't know wha happens if you do between those two.

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I would put "Legal Trouble" before "Lamar Down". At the end of LT, Solomon says invitations are on the way, and it's not until after LD that Michael's family starts commenting about the movie (Amanda posts in Michael's Lifeinvader that she just got the invitation, which can't happen before Solomon sends it in LT). Besides, I don't think Devin would have waited until the very last moment before the premiere to plug on the movie.

 

By the way, what's the dialogue if you do "Chop" at the moment you chose? I know Lamar complains about Simeon not caring about them and wanting extra income if you do it before "Complications", and apparently Franklin talks about having a new contact if done after "Father/Son", but I don't know wha happens if you do between those two.

 

I think he just says the same thing he does if it's started after "Father/Son", since he'll have already met Michael either way, but I'm not entirely sure.

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By the way, what's the dialogue if you do "Chop" at the moment you chose? I know Lamar complains about Simeon not caring about them and wanting extra income if you do it before "Complications", and apparently Franklin talks about having a new contact if done after "Father/Son", but I don't know wha happens if you do between those two.

 

It's quite a bit different. They don't talk about Simeon and instead Franklin will tell Lamar how he's met Michael and believes he can be a good contact for them.

 

It's interesting that you guys are discussing this because I was only trying to work out some kind of proper timeline for the events of GTA V the other day. But I got distracted and decided to restart IV (and giving TPT this time) a go instead.

 

For reference, this was my "chapter 1" kind of run for V:

 

Prologue

Franklin and Lamar

Repossession

Complications

Father/Son

Pulling Favors (S&F)

Marriage Counseling

Friend Request

ATM Robbery (Random Event)

Chaos (Therapy Session)

Chop

Daddy's Little Girl

Simeon Yeterian (Random Event)

The Good Husband

Getaway Driver (Random Event)

Casing the Jewel Store

BZ Gas Grenades

The Long Stretch

Bugstars Equipment

The Jewel Store Job

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This is my list that includes

random events/strangers and Freaks

 

Chapter 1

Prologue

Franklin and lamar

Repossesion

Pulling favours

Chop

complications

father/son

long stretch

Marrige counselling

Chaos( therapy session)

Daddy's little girl

Pulling another favour

Still pulling favours

Pulling favours again

Pulling one last favour

friend request

Simeon event( random event)

Getaway driver( random event)

Good husband

Casing jewel store

Bugsters equipment

BZ gas

Jewel store job

 

Chapter 2

Mr phillips

Trevor phillips industries

Nervous ron

Weed farm( random event)

Mackenzie airfield purchase

Crystal maze

Friends reunited

 

Chapter 3

Fame or shame

Dead man walking

evil ( therapy session)

Threes company

By the book

Scouting the port

mini sub

Merryweather heist

Did somebody say yoga

Hood safari

Hotel assaination

blitz play intro

Masks

Boiler suits

Getaway vehicle

Trash truck

Tow truck

Blitz play heist

I fought the law

eye in the sky

Mr Richards

Caida libre

 

Chapter 3

deep inside

Minor turbalance

Negativity( therapy session)

Paleto score setup

Predator

target practice ( strangers&freaks)

Fair game ( stranger&freaks)

paparazzi

Paparazzi sex tape

Paparazzi highness

Paparazzi meltdown

Paparazzi reality check

Buried alive( random event)

crash rescue( random event)

Hitch lift 1

Rouge artuist

Arrests 1

special bonds

bounty 1

Bounty 2

Bounty 3

Bounty 4

Deal gone wrong

military hardware

Paleto score

Derailed

monkey business

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I think Friend Request needs doing earlier. Early on in the game (I think after Repossession) it's mentioned on the in game news that Jay Norris is unveiling the Life Invader device this week, so those missions shouldn't be too far apart.

 

Likewise with The Long Stretch. You get a text quite early on from Lamar that Stretch is coming out soon and I think it says on Life Invader that he's coming out "next week". I think this is also after Repossession so there needs to be a bit of spacing before that one.

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