max1983 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Didnt microsoft pay 50 million just for it to be made for the 360 or am i wrong ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agincourtsalute Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 As much as I want it to be true, i dont think they will w=realise EFLC for pc or ps3. But that Agent game that is only ps3 is suppose to be better than GTA. Lol cant wait to see that one. Nobody knows anything about Agent except its gonna be a espionage game, so I don't understand how anyone could say its gonna be better than GTA. I think the EFLC will come to PS3 and PC next year and I think they'll be built from the ground up just like IV, I think R* will want to include the download for PS3 like they had with IV to prevent pop-ins. I saw one review of the 360 ELFC that said something like "the pop-ins were a lot harder to tolerate 16 months later". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ_4_LIFE Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Didnt microsoft pay 50 million just for it to be made for the 360 or am i wrong ??? Yes microsoft did pay 50 mil to get it FIRST, but it was never said if it was just made for the xb360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeagol Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Didnt microsoft pay 50 million just for it to be made for the 360 or am i wrong ??? Yes microsoft did pay 50 mil to get it FIRST, but it was never said if it was just made for the xb360. No one knows about the exact contract details, but microsoft has said it is exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ_4_LIFE Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Yes exclusive DLC. Nothing was said about the disc EFLC. Also if you read this thread from the start you'll find the link and sauce where a R* employee leaked how microsoft paid to get TLATD and TBOGT first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Didnt microsoft pay 50 million just for it to be made for the 360 or am i wrong ??? Yes microsoft did pay 50 mil to get it FIRST, but it was never said if it was just made for the xb360. You got that backwards, let me rephrase that for you... "Yes it was said it would be just made for the xb360, but it was never said if microsoft did pay 50 mil to get it FIRST." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakorama Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Didnt microsoft pay 50 million just for it to be made for the 360 or am i wrong ??? Yes microsoft did pay 50 mil to get it FIRST, but it was never said if it was just made for the xb360. You got that backwards, let me rephrase that for you... "Yes it was said it would be just made for the xb360, but it was never said if microsoft did pay 50 mil to get it FIRST." Actually CJ_4_LIFE is right, a Rockstar representative did say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryder 556 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Here's something for you guys to argue about well I get some sleep. R* said the PS3 image on TRU was a mistake and that the image was fake. We know it was fake because it was made back in september. But what about that mistake? What's a mistake? A mistake is something that is not supposed to happen or happened on accident. Which is it R*? Did TRU mis-read the notice you gave them when to start displaying the PS3 version of EFLC or what? Think about it guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermortalhuman Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 (edited) Downloadable Content REQUIRES a game to run on to be an expansion or "DLC" EFLC is not the DLC. The only thing that makes it DLC is being downloadable and requiring GTA IV to run. You can ONLY download it on Live, but the disc pressing, missing music and all, is a SEPARATE GAME. We will play this on our platforms of choice. Steam by March, watch. To reiterate the point: TBoGT and TLaD =/= Episodes from Liberty City. The downloads are for GTA IV, the EFLC content is Not DLC thus is it NOT exclusive. The OLD box art said only on xbox. NOW it does not. Because it is not only on xbox, it is just on xbox First. I am willing to BET that the PS3 version comes with all the IV music, RE LICENSED with the profit from the Xbox episodes. The PC will use IV, like XBox DLC did. It is a MS LIVE platform, thus it is still microsoft's. Edited November 1, 2009 by supermortalhuman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookPassBabtridge Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 ^All other arguments aside, MS are not going to invest in exclusivity for just a download, that would be totally pointless. The content is what they invested in, regardless of download or disc versions. Toying with words and terms isnt going to alter anything, the contract would fall apart if it was that simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermortalhuman Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 You, my friend, do not know how it works, do you? Just give it time. They will NOT keep this content from a fanbase that is millions more than XBox has (yes, the PS3 has many more users now) and if they will give it to those console boys, they will give it to the PC because that is a MS platform. Say whatever you want, but the evidence is staggering, and just like the console boys facepalmed when rockstar was saying "nope, not on pc" and then it came, the live users will facepalm as well. EFLC IS A DIFFERENT GAME. PERIOD. IT DOES NOT EVEN BELONG IN THE DLC DISCUSSION. IT IS A NEW TITLE. IT DOES NOT CONTAIN NOR REQUIRE IV THUS IT IS NOT THE DLC ANYMORE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesusramirez Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 (edited) I think it'll came to PC and PS3 but the problem is when? Microsoft and Rockstar are following an intelligent marketing strategy...You can see its steps... I. They released the game for two major consoles....(they said nothing about the PC edition) II. Then they released the PC edition which has Independence Fm, Video Editor and Great High Graphic Settings...[My game runs perfectly after the patches,like a movie] III. Most of Xbox owners who has much money bought the PC edition of the game again...I knew it from the GFWL players accounts when you look the compare games, most of them have Xbox and PC edition of GTA IV... IV.And again %60-%70 of GTA IV players meet GFWL with this game when you look player accounts again...Microsoft know this V.Microsoft wants to sell more consolles with TBOGT and EFLC...They sell console,they sell disc version,they sell add-on.... VI.Some of Xbox owners who has much money may bought the disc version of EFLC altough they have already download the TLAD...Becuse of disc version has extra radio channels or somethings etc... VII.When EFLC and ADD-ON TBOGT reach the sales life on Xbox LIVE it 'll came to PC by GFWL which is brother of XBOX LIVE... VIII.It'll came to PC by two way I think.... First an ADD-ON of TLAD to PC in GFWL on February or March...TBOGT on 2010 Fall....[You may download it from GFWL...GFWL starts to sell add-ons already for another games like Fallout 3,Battlestations Pacific,Street Fighter IV,etc...Why not GTA IV?] Second way is a disc version of the EFLC to PC and PS 3 in a year.... We'll see.... Edited November 1, 2009 by jesusramirez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookPassBabtridge Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 No my friend Im not arguing if it will come to PS3 or not, just what youre claiming about the words DLC. That seriously would not form part of a 50million dollar contract, its not the real business world. If its timed, then it will obviously be on PS3 after the time is up, but not suddenly because the content MS invested in made it to disc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermortalhuman Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 (edited) 50 million dollars is not enough of an ADVANCE - it was NOT even payment for episodes. MS did NOT buy this CONTENT, they ADVANCED rockstar the MONEY and rockstar had to pay it back. TIMED EXCLUSIVITY was nothing more than COLLATERAL. Really dude, the evidence is, again, staggering. They won't even make clear statements about it: Other platforms will see this game, very soon. @jesusramirez yes. Good eye for marketing you have. but expect the opening of platforms to be at the same time. This is a summer release (few months before summer) to hold you over until Vice City in winter 2010, when we need some sun for the cold outside. Edited November 1, 2009 by supermortalhuman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesusramirez Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 @jesusramirez yes. Good eye for marketing you have. but expect the opening of platforms to be at the same time. This is a summer release (few months before summer) to hold you over until Vice City in winter 2010, when we need some sun for the cold outside. thx...By the way I agree your platform thoughts.%90 it'll came both (PC-PS3) maybe Microsoft release add-ons in GFWL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermortalhuman Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I'm on the fence about that one myself. On one hand, Gabe Newell came from Microsoft because Bill Gates wasn't ready to do games (that's what he does is let other things start then enter the market, it's all to not be the monopoly), so then Steam was born. Then, GTA IV was released on there. So I think if it is on GFWL, it will also be on Steam. If it is on Steam, it will be stand alone game (not DLC), and if it comes on Live, it will be episodes. I don't see them producing two versions for PC, and I don't think they would have even made EFLC at all if they didn't plan to not have to port 2 episodes on PC. Now they can port "that game" and it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo_V Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I'm on the fence about that one myself. On one hand, Gabe Newell came from Microsoft because Bill Gates wasn't ready to do games (that's what he does is let other things start then enter the market, it's all to not be the monopoly), so then Steam was born. Then, GTA IV was released on there. So I think if it is on GFWL, it will also be on Steam. If it is on Steam, it will be stand alone game (not DLC), and if it comes on Live, it will be episodes. I don't see them producing two versions for PC, and I don't think they would have even made EFLC at all if they didn't plan to not have to port 2 episodes on PC. Now they can port "that game" and it's done. Good Point. I think R* made it clear that EFLC will come to other platformes, because they say "no comment". They want to hide something. And we know what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarnell Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 But seriously why the f*ck did they make EFLC which includes TLAD and TBoGT on one disk, if most of the xbox owners allready had TLAD??? I sense something fishy in here. Couse wouldnt it make more sense to just download a cheaper dlc and have the same games that you have when buying EFLC, only its cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermortalhuman Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 They made EFLC so that it was not DLC and instead it is a Stand Alone Game, unrelated to download services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gta 4 gamer Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 They made EFLC so that it was not DLC and instead it is a Stand Alone Game, unrelated to download services You do have a point, hopefully EFLC will come out earlier than expected, without any official statement. Now that'd rock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I just wish they had released the prepaid DL card too...but then I would have to buy both the card version and EfLC cause I'm just like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullMetal Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 They made EFLC so that it was not DLC and instead it is a Stand Alone Game, unrelated to download services In other words, now that I think of it... more eurodollars for Rockstar instead of more for Microsoft??? And also... possibility of the EFLC coming to PS3 and PC instead of it being two seperate DLC packages (yes, DLC as in only available via download). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonp92 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 It seems that most PS3 user has lost total faith in Rockstar. One guy even said that he wasent going to buy Agent, just to piss off R* .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restelo94 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 It seems that most PS3 user has lost total faith in Rockstar. One guy even said that he wasent going to buy Agent, just to piss off R* .. Wow, I doubt that'll make a difference to the Millions of sales R*'s gonna get from Agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalosoulj4h20 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 It seems that most PS3 user has lost total faith in Rockstar. One guy even said that he wasent going to buy Agent, just to piss off R* .. Wow, I doubt that'll make a difference to the Millions of sales R*'s gonna get from Agent Don't suck them off just yet. At least look at a trailer before you think it's going to be a hit. In before some guy says, ''but itz rockstarzzz north''. Doesn't matter, Agent can be a f*ck up like some of their other games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rean2 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 its just a game... its no different when u find out an interesting game turns out to be only available on another console... just live with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restelo94 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 It seems that most PS3 user has lost total faith in Rockstar. One guy even said that he wasent going to buy Agent, just to piss off R* .. Wow, I doubt that'll make a difference to the Millions of sales R*'s gonna get from Agent Don't suck them off just yet. At least look at a trailer before you think it's going to be a hit. In before some guy says, ''but itz rockstarzzz north''. Doesn't matter, Agent can be a f*ck up like some of their other games. R* is a very well known brand, no doubt they'll be marketing the hell of it, along with the fact many fans of GTA will buy it becuase it is R* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalosoulj4h20 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 It seems that most PS3 user has lost total faith in Rockstar. One guy even said that he wasent going to buy Agent, just to piss off R* .. Wow, I doubt that'll make a difference to the Millions of sales R*'s gonna get from Agent Don't suck them off just yet. At least look at a trailer before you think it's going to be a hit. In before some guy says, ''but itz rockstarzzz north''. Doesn't matter, Agent can be a f*ck up like some of their other games. R* is a very well known brand, no doubt they'll be marketing the hell of it, along with the fact many fans of GTA will buy it becuase it is R* And thats the stupidity of fans. They buy it because it's rockstar. That's how they can get away with these dumb things like exclusivity inside an exclusive game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonp92 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 ^ im gonna get Agent when it releases. same with LA noire and Dead Red Redemption.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalosoulj4h20 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 ^ Good for you but I don't care. Doesn't mean everybody else will be that dumb not to see how it turns out first. Just like the episodes I think Agent will go to the 360 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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