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The Official Ballad of Gay Tony Theory Thread


OGLuke
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Thanks for the compliment, and I like the idea about U.L Paper, I'd like for him to make a return

no prob.

 

Yours is the best of all the theorys ive heard.

 

yeah watch U.L pull a mission impossible and turn out to be a young guy dressed as an old guy lol.

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Does anyone think that as Luis you will have to kill Niko? I know it's not very likely but it is possible. Think about it, Tony Prince buys the diamonds off of the chef that works on the Platypus. Johnny Klebitz and the Lost steal the diamonds off of them and plant them in the garbage. Niko is the one that gets them for Ray and when doing the deal with Issac is ambushed by Luis. In the mission, 'Diamonds are a girls best friend', Tony and Luis have to give up the diamonds they fought so long for in exchange for Gracie Ancelloti, meanwhile they are all attacked by Bulgarin's men and the diamonds everyone was after are lost only to be found by a homeless man as mentioned on Weazel news after the mission. During the Ballad of gay Tony trailer we see Bulgarin and Luis talking so can assume that the two may be working together. Given the fact that Bulgarin has failed several times to kill Niko is it not plausible that you will be hired by him in BOGT to take Niko out yourself? I had some more points that would hint at this but the post is already a bit too long lol.

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Think about it from the perspective of Niko.

 

If, when you were playing as Niko, you didn't get shot and die by Luis.. then from Luis's perspective you won't kill Niko.

 

If it didn't happen in Niko's storyline it won't happen in Luis's.

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Giving this a pin, at least for now. Lots of theory-type topics popping up, so I want to make sure everyone sees this.

 

The thread about whether you might have to kill Niko has been merged into this too. icon14.gif

"You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be."

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Doubt it. Most likely, TBOGT ends before Niko's story ends. It wouldn't make sense to be able to kill Niko if Niko's and Luis' stories are in the same universe and obviously Niko lives indefinitely after the end of his story.

 

It's possible you'll get a chance to kill Niko in TBOGT, and possibly unlock some interesting content by doing so, just like in TLAD, but it will fail the mission because Niko can't die in the story.

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UGH oh god!Why do people on this forum deal with stupidity (no offense) on a daily basis?!? How do you guys coup with this!?! notify.gif

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Does anyone here think that building full of posters and sh*t across from the projects in East Holland is the fight club place? Looks abandoned and there is a crane behind it.

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I read through this entire thread (which is great), but I wonder that no one mentioned this one before:

 

In the Mission "diamonds are a girl's best friend", after Niko/Packie changed Gracie with Luis/Tony for the diamond, as we know Bulgarin showes up and one of his guys takes the diamonds. Niko and Packie are not able to get them back from this guy, who drops them onto some truck.

 

This mission will definitely be played from the Luis/Tony-perspective (obvioulsy). Maybe the car they came in gets blown up or something. So this Mission for Luis will probably end, after a good shootout with Bulgarins men, with Luis and Tony having to steal a truck to escape from this place, seeing someone standing on top of a bridge dropping the diamonds onto the van. This would be awesome, wouldn't it?

 

 

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with only one wk left to go, i'm done theorising on what might or might not happen.

 

However feel free to use this thread for your theorys, ideas and thoughts.

 

 

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Well Luis will certainly have a sad ending, just as Niko and Johnny. In the TBoGT trailer, you can see Luis punching Gay Tony, which means there's a big possibility for Tony to die..

In the IGN nightlife montage you can see Roman and Brucie going to Maisonette 9, and you see Roman again going to the same club in the end of the video, so you could say that Roman is a regular to Maisonette9, as well as Brucie. biggrin.gif If you played through Niko's story, if you go to [email protected] and acces a computer, go to Liberty City Police Database, you'll see that Bulgarin appears as dead. But later, he appears in the mission "Diamonds are a girl's best friend" .... So his death was certainly fake, but I think Luis kills him for the simple fact of making him a "dominican bitch". About the "devil", I certainly agree. That's a very good theory.

And one last thing biggrin.gif : In the cutscene of " Caught with your pants down", you can see the guy who works at the Perseus shop with Yusuf's Father. What's he doing there ?

Makes sense, huh ? cool.gif

 

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I read through this entire thread (which is great), but I wonder that no one mentioned this one before:

 

In the Mission "diamonds are a girl's best friend", after Niko/Packie changed Gracie with Luis/Tony for the diamond, as we know Bulgarin showes up and one of his guys takes the diamonds. Niko and Packie are not able to get them back from this guy, who drops them onto some truck.

 

This mission will definitely be played from the Luis/Tony-perspective (obvioulsy). Maybe the car they came in gets blown up or something. So this Mission for Luis will probably end, after a good shootout with Bulgarins men, with Luis and Tony having to steal a truck to escape from this place, seeing someone standing on top of a bridge dropping the diamonds onto the van. This would be awesome, wouldn't it?

I agree with Luis fighting Bulgarin's men, and I like sseing the guy on the bridge, but in the news on GTA4 your hear of a hobo who rumuged through some garbage and found the diamonds, then becoming a millionare. You were probably not saying they'd get the diamonds but I was just pointing it out. turn.gif

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Kevin Johnson

 

I read through this entire thread (which is great), but I wonder that no one mentioned this one before:

 

In the Mission "diamonds are a girl's best friend", after Niko/Packie changed Gracie with Luis/Tony for the diamond, as we know Bulgarin showes up and one of his guys takes the diamonds. Niko and Packie are not able to get them back from this guy, who drops them onto some truck.

 

This mission will definitely be played from the Luis/Tony-perspective (obvioulsy). Maybe the car they came in gets blown up or something. So this Mission for Luis will probably end, after a good shootout with Bulgarins men, with Luis and Tony having to steal a truck to escape from this place, seeing someone standing on top of a bridge dropping the diamonds onto the van. This would be awesome, wouldn't it?

I agree with Luis fighting Bulgarin's men, and I like sseing the guy on the bridge, but in the news on GTA4 your hear of a hobo who rumuged through some garbage and found the diamonds, then becoming a millionare. You were probably not saying they'd get the diamonds but I was just pointing it out. turn.gif

 

Damn it, you're right. Okay I liked the theory, but it seems to be totally wrong. Anyway... it would have been cool.

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Don't hate me because you think i'm a spammer, but i'm not, this is a legit theory of mine, or speculation sort of.

 

Ok, so i was on Youtube yesterday just looking at the past GTA debut trilers, such as IV, San Andreas, and VC.

and when i looked at these trailers, they all had the release date at the end,

 

GTA IV - 29/4/08

GTA San Andreas - ?/11/04

Now when i looked at GTA Vice city, it said Coming 29/10/02.

 

So VC came out on the 29th of October 2002, and i'm thinking, 'well 7 years later, they're releasing TBoGT'

So i am thinking, if for some reason R* dosn't make a sequel to VC, do you think that they made TBoGT to sort of go along with VC instead of making a completely new game, and yes i know that TBoGT is in LC, i am aware, but i just thought that this was a bit of a coincidence that they release a clubby, party, bright type GTA IV add on, on the same date that they released GTA Vice City, but 7 years later.

 

I have a free theory and that is why i posted it here, i was thinking on just starting a new topic, but i thought it would be a waste of time and space on the forums. It would just get locked anyway.

 

Please quothe this on what you think, or just write '@ XTREME0235' along with your judgement to my theory, positive or not, just so i know who to respond to and what not. smile.gif

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It's possible that Luis might have the opportunity to kill Niko. It certainly would be interesting, but haven't Rockstar already announced that TBOGT will not go past Niko's story?

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So VC came out on the 29th of October 2002, and i'm thinking, 'well 7 years later, they're releasing TBoGT'

So i am thinking, if for some reason R* dosn't make a sequel to VC, do you think that they made TBoGT to sort of go along with VC instead of making a completely new game, and yes i know that TBoGT is in LC, i am aware, but i just thought that this was a bit of a coincidence that they release a clubby, party, bright type GTA IV add on, on the same date that they released GTA Vice City, but 7 years later.

 

 

Hmmm interesting. Never thought of that. Also the inclusion of Vice City FM.

 

Sort of off topic: Can't believe Vice City is 7 years old. Jeez that went quick.

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So VC came out on the 29th of October 2002, and i'm thinking, 'well 7 years later, they're releasing TBoGT'

So i am thinking, if for some reason R* dosn't make a sequel to VC, do you think that they made TBoGT to sort of go along with VC instead of making a completely new game, and yes i know that TBoGT is in LC, i am aware, but i just thought that this was a bit of a coincidence that they release a clubby, party, bright type GTA IV add on, on the same date that they released GTA Vice City, but 7 years later.

Intriguing theory. I thought the same thing after seeing the trailers and the HUD for TBoGT. It's very glitzy, glamourous, etc. but I think it's (TBoGT) more of a sneak peek to what VC could potentially be. I mean, that's what the Episodes are -- an experimentation to see what could be added, etc.

 

*shrugs*

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didnt know where to post this so ill just add it in here.

 

Regarding the 'Liberty City Its over next stop' clue. It says Seagull under the small picture .

 

Seagull is a Large Watch manufacturer in China , is that a clue ? who knows...

 

But I believe China is a very mountaneous country and that little ripped picture looks like mountains.

 

Could we see the next GTA game in China ??

 

A triad themed game ??

 

Just a Wild Theory but I thought I would throw it out !!

 

Would be a cool game .

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I'm wondering about Gracie's role in the game, and haven't seen much discussion concerning her. I'm hoping she gets in a good action sequence or two, seeing as she wasn't really able to get much ass kicking in during GTA IV.

 

Here's hoping to an expanded Gracie role.

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So VC came out on the 29th of October 2002, and i'm thinking, 'well 7 years later, they're releasing TBoGT'

So i am thinking, if for some reason R* dosn't make a sequel to VC, do you think that they made TBoGT to sort of go along with VC instead of making a completely new game, and yes i know that TBoGT is in LC, i am aware, but i just thought that this was a bit of a coincidence that they release a clubby, party, bright type GTA IV add on, on the same date that they released GTA Vice City, but 7 years later.

 

 

Hmmm interesting. Never thought of that. Also the inclusion of Vice City FM.

 

Sort of off topic: Can't believe Vice City is 7 years old. Jeez that went quick.

Indeed, VC is 7 years old, it only just hit me up too.

That means that before R* did GTA IV, it was somewhat, 8 or 9 years ago that they did LC.

So seeing the transformation of these games is just amazing, i mean you look at GTA III, and compare it to GTA IV, it is just weird but astonashing at the same time of how the same city, has changed over the past 8-9 years.

I still remember the character's little hands with barely any fingers in the past GTA's, it was so funny comparing the old hands and the hands R* uses for GTA IV.

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