OGLuke Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 VICECITY FM since fernando martinez is returning, im wondering if he'll replay the old hits from VC/VCS or completly new songs that weren't in either game. and as for the exclusive thing, that is a shocker lol Usually it's DLC that gets extras not game disc. R* must rly want you to buy both or just EFLC. I already have [email protected], but my live connection got downgraded so i'm gunna be buying EFLC, but now i don't feel so bad cause i'm getting the total package! BOGT DLC and some of the greatest hits from the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsta312 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 VICECITY FM since fernando martinez is returning, im wondering if he'll replay the old hits from VC/VCS or completly new songs that weren't in either game. If you had listened to the previews on the official site, the songs we've heard so far on VCFM aren't from Vice City or Vice City Stories. They're different tracks. If you want to hear the full songs, go to this thread and listen to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Colt Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Guess this compensates for the people who have the disc version who won't be able to listen to TLAD and BOGT music on the original IV. I wondered this. Of course the real reason is most likely that VCFM would push the DLC over the 2GB limit. I imagine that VCFM, being an entirely new radio station, has more data than the updates for the existing radio stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookPassBabtridge Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 If it is a data issue, surely a wiser move would be to have left out the other updates and added Vice instead to both versions. Already people arent impressed with the British DJ on the Russian station for example Whatever the reason behind this, the timing is bloody awful. There needs to be some clear info this week about the DLC, no more sh*tty surprises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brazil201 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 who really gonna play gta iv vanilla once tbogt comes out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGLuke Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 who really gonna play gta iv vanilla once tbogt comes out I'll still play as niko for the girlfriends/friends and replay the missions again, same with johny except for girlfriends i'll go back to play the gangwars and bikeraces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk-in-Drublic Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Holy sh*t, this is amazing, my boxers are like a plasterers radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauer Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Well what ever the reason be it technical or Rockstar being money grabbing whores I think we can safely say that the DLC "experiment" has been nothing but a shambles for the consumer and the fan. There is a lesson in all of this, leave the DLC on the server and just wait till they bring it to disc where you will get more content. I completely agree with this, but I am happy we even got a disc version. Now, instead of buying BoGT with Microsoft Points, which pretty much always force you to pay for more points than what you want to buy, I can wait until the price goes down on the disc version and get my money's worth. DLC prices do not decrease over time, unlike new and used copies of games. I regret buying TLaD over Live, but I have now learned to not buy Rockstar's products until the better version of their product releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insom Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 They obviously want EFLC to be the superior version. They've been marketing it over the DLC since it was announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamefarter Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 (edited) I mouthed off at R* and here's what I wrote: "I am not very happy about this radio station being for the disc version only. I have already bought TLAD twice, as I ordered it from amazon and when it didn't arrive on the release day I went out and bought it at Best Buy. I also, just yesterday, went and bought 1600 MS points so I can download TBoGT as soon as it becomes available, and today I find out (at GTA Forums) that you are putting exclusive content into the disc version of the game. I would like to know the justification for this, and why it was not brought to our attention sooner, so for those of us who like to plan ahead could have the chance to not get shafted. Very disappointed with this info, and the timing of its release. " Yes, I did buy TLaTD twice, but I got 3 months x-box live with my purchase from Amazon, so I didn't really lose any money in the deal. I was going to return the Amazon version to Best Buy when it arrived, but never got around to it, must have been too busy playing TLaTD. Anyways, if there is anyone who does not have TLaTD who was going to buy the EFLC disc, but would rather just download TBoGT if they could get a free copy of TLaTD, PM me, and I will read through some of your posts, and if I don't think you're a douche I will PM you back a redeemable code for TLaTD, no strings attached (must have X-box Live, of course). This will be my payback to R* for shafting us loyal fans who bought their product as soon as we could. (Congratulations Killer6699 on passing the douche test and winning a free copy of TLaTD) Edited October 22, 2009 by gamefarter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nattog Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 (edited) wow, i dont even know what to say. i don't think ive ever been so pissed off at rockstar.. way to screw over all the people who bought the lost and damned dlc. i guess ill be spending teh money i was planning on using to get Chinatown wars for my psp to buy the sh*tty lost and damned again. poor show rockstar, poor show.... they could have, at the very least, offered the station to people who downloaded both dlc's Edited October 22, 2009 by nattog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarbzKartel Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I to am mad at this fa**otry movement. If everyone wants it this bad we should all group together and tell R* what a dumb move they've made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
florisinfernus Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I'm pissed off too, but maybe buying EFLC isn't such a bad idea after all. My IV disc is kind of scratchy so maybe I should do it anyway.. I hope I can load my TLAD game from the EFLC disc though. If I can do that then I'll just pay the 20. Kind of a waste though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.hunt Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I'm so f*cking pissed that I'm considering downloading EFLC via torrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceeinstein Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Is there other ways to break the 2 GB limits on DLCs? It's not like it's the first time Rockstar made something exclusive to one game. PS3 and PC only users never get the chance to play the add-ons at all, let alone hear this radio station. The PC version of SA had the usual improvements in graphics, custom radio station, and replays, but missed out on co-op mode while the rest has it even though it's entirely possible to have it. The PS2 version of VCS had exclusive contents while missing a multiplayer. The PSP version of CW has tons more than the DS version while missing out on the touch-screen features. EFLC has one extra radio station while missing out on the entire GTA IV game while people who have the DLC have all three games with some features crossing over using just one disc. Exclusivities have been done before and will be kept as long as people still buy their stuff. I doubt one measly radio station will be enough to stop people from buying Rockstar's games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OysterBarron Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 (edited) yes release a seperate piece of DLc if indeed it does break the 2GB limit your theorie is understandable but you are talking about the game getting transfered from one platform to another this is only on one platform and it doesnt really have any reason to be lacking in any shape or form really its just a ploy to get you to purchase the more exspensive version! and whos using a trippletag gamercard its causing a security popup to come up evertime im on this page! Edited October 22, 2009 by oysterbarron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookPassBabtridge Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 ^^ The fact it goes on doesnt make it right, or value for money. Where I personally draw the line is R* messing around with exclusives within exclusives. We are talking about the same game on the same platform, and for which everyone has paid the same money. Theres no excuse for anyone to get short changed, its bull. EDIT: Cheers Oyster for flagging that up, im getting the pop up too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
florisinfernus Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 EDIT: Cheers Oyster for flagging that up, im getting the pop up too I had it too but now it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheLiving Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 EDIT: Cheers Oyster for flagging that up, im getting the pop up too I had it too but now it's gone. same... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Colt Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Apparently, Rockstar's just confirmed that VCFM appears only on the disc compilation due to licensing issues. How that works I have no idea. The world of copyright makes no logical sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 and whos using a trippletag gamercard its causing a security popup to come up evertime im on this page! You might want to make a topic here and bring it to the admins attentions. Scrub that I saw it was reported and the signature was disabled for it. Apparently, Rockstar's just confirmed that VCFM appears only on the disc compilation due to licensing issues. How that works I have no idea. The world of copyright makes no logical sense. You got a link you can chuck us ? I just thnk the whole situation stinks to high hell. Support Rockstars innovative DLC concept and get screwed for your support, thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheLiving Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Apparently, Rockstar's just confirmed that VCFM appears only on the disc compilation due to licensing issues. How that works I have no idea. The world of copyright makes no logical sense. Link? Considering it's the same game I don't understand how that would be affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trepsik Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 only thing i can think of to justify the exclusivity of vice city fm is that wav files for the songs are pretty big and that would bulk up the download, but then again people have 120 gig hdd out there. me i'm stuck with a small ass one from the original none hdmi xbox oh. well copyright sh*t suks too. dunno how that works either i mean its the same price and game so wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookPassBabtridge Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 If it is a licensing issue, it may be something to do with digital distribution of the tracks. A technicality, but there could be a rule that only allows hard copy distribution, particularly as the tracks are from the 80s. Either way it doesnt calm my anger at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skateordie985 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I think we can safely say that the DLC "experiment" has been nothing but a shambles for the consumer and the fan. I don't see how. Its way better then waiting another 2 years for a new GTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I think we can safely say that the DLC "experiment" has been nothing but a shambles for the consumer and the fan. I don't see how. Its way better then waiting another 2 years for a new GTA. How do you know you don't have another 2 years to wait for another GTA now ? All the DLC did was delay the wait slightly for less than 50% of the GTA audience I might add. It is reasonable to assume if they hadn't bothered with the DLC we would be half way there to getting a whole new GTA now. Meanwhile we have Rockstar actually PUNISHING those that bought the Lost and Damned DLC by delivering them less content unless they go out and buy the EFLC disc and pay for TLaD AGAIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
florisinfernus Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I think we can safely say that the DLC "experiment" has been nothing but a shambles for the consumer and the fan. I don't see how. Its way better then waiting another 2 years for a new GTA. How do you know you don't have another 2 years to wait for another GTA now ? All the DLC did was delay the wait slightly for less than 50% of the GTA audience I might add. It is reasonable to assume if they hadn't bothered with the DLC we would be half way there to getting a whole new GTA now. Meanwhile we have Rockstar actually PUNISHING those that bought the Lost and Damned DLC by delivering them less content unless they go out and buy the EFLC disc and pay for TLaD AGAIN. A new bonus station called Vice City FM is available exclusively on the Episodes from Liberty City disc, to compensate for the fact that the disc does not contain any of the music from Grand Theft Auto IV (as this would require each track to be re-licensed). http://www.gta4.net/ballad-of-gay-tony/music.php?vo=86 Do you know the source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Nice so those that buy the DLC get the pleasure of listening to the same music they have been listening to for nearly 2 bloody years and are quite SICK of it by now. However those that buy the EFLC disc get "compensated" for not having the feature of being able to listen to the same radio and music that they have been listening to for the last 2 odd years. So the "licensing" issue is down to the old GTA 4 music having to be re-licensed for the EFLC then ? Well that doesn't answer the question we all want asked, which is why isn't this radio station included in the DLC then ? Whether you are buying the DLC or the Disc you should get the SAME content they both cost the same (infact I think the DLC actually works out as more expensive). They have made the DLC completely worthless for a lot of people after all it now appears you are only a "true" gta fan if you buy the EFLC disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
florisinfernus Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Nice so those that buy the DLC get the pleasure of listening to the same music they have been listening to for nearly 2 bloody years and are quite SICK of it by now. However those that buy the EFLC disc get "compensated" for not having the feature of being able to listen to the same radio and music that they have been listening to for the last 2 odd years. So the "licensing" issue is down to the old GTA 4 music having to be re-licensed for the EFLC then ? Well that doesn't answer the question we all want asked, which is why isn't this radio station included in the DLC then ? Whether you are buying the DLC or the Disc you should get the SAME content they both cost the same (infact I think the DLC actually works out as more expensive). They have made the DLC completely worthless for a lot of people after all it now appears you are only a "true" gta fan if you buy the EFLC disc. You can allways just get that station from somewhere else if you know what im getting at.. There is a whole lot of music in GTA IV, being tired of such an amount of music would be strange. I think it's fair that we are getting everything in one and they are getting something extra (or we are getting something less..). Hey, maybe we're even getting an extra bit of content since this opens up some extra space..(probably not) Why would it appear that you're only a true GTA fan when you buy the disc? We have all the radio in one game. They only have one extra station that doesn't make any sense anyway. Okay, they are getting the boxart and the map, but we knew that allready.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Goose Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Where is the official source for no GTAIV music in EFLC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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