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[AceThaCreator]

I can't stand guys like that in MMA. It's like if your ass can't ever make the weight limit then move up one.

 

Some may say its cheating when someguys cut LOADS of weight but the only person that they are cheating are themselves by draining & depleting themselves to a point where they are on the brink of death, its not healthy. Rumble used to do this sh*t all the time but wised up and stuck to a more natural weight class which some of the curremt fighters need to do.

 

The only occasion where you would be at a huge disadvantage is if its a LHW vs a Large HW although there are those rare breed of guys like Fedor(small heavyweight) who are capable of beating large guys.

Edited December 12, 2014 by BlackAce23

[I Love Anna Kournikova]

JDS beat Stipe. Some are saying Stipe won but I had it 48-47 for JDS. Stipe the first two JDS 3,4 and 5. 5 was close though.

 

Nate Diaz got embarassed which was awesome. Especially since he came in 5 pounds overweight. The guy lives 45 minutes south of me But I cant stand the Diaz Bros.

[AceThaCreator]

Yeah JDS won but it should've been scored as 49-48, it was alot closer and overall it was a great fight.

 

That fight between Dos Anjos and Diaz was brutual to watch. Every kick sounded like a batter hitting a fast pitch, hes tough as nails for not giving up.

 

Man I can't wait for that Jones vs Cormier fight. Cormier is gonna definitely give Jones problems with his grappling but Jones is more versatile & battle tested then DC. I feel that either can win both this fan and im a Jones fan.

[NickDiaz209]

JDS beat Stipe. Some are saying Stipe won but I had it 48-47 for JDS. Stipe the first two JDS 3,4 and 5. 5 was close though.

 

Nate Diaz got embarassed which was awesome. Especially since he came in 5 pounds overweight. The guy lives 45 minutes south of me But I cant stand the Diaz Bros.

 

He lives about two blocks away from me. What area you from? I will always root for the Diaz bros. Worst performance ever by Nate though. I really think his heart is not in it anymore

[I Love Anna Kournikova]

 

JDS beat Stipe. Some are saying Stipe won but I had it 48-47 for JDS. Stipe the first two JDS 3,4 and 5. 5 was close though.

 

Nate Diaz got embarassed which was awesome. Especially since he came in 5 pounds overweight. The guy lives 45 minutes south of me But I cant stand the Diaz Bros.

He lives about two blocks away from me. What area you from? I will always root for the Diaz bros. Worst performance ever by Nate though. I really think his heart is not in it anymore

 

I am up in the Marysville/Yuba City area. So a little more than 45 minutes I guess. More like an hour or so.

 

I have wanted to root for the Diaz bros for ever but I just cant root for their fighting styles. Their trash talk in the cage just annoys me so much. After the fights they are pretty classy though. Even after this last fight Right when the bell rang at the end Diaz was being a little bit classless but after he cooled down for a minute he was congradulating RDA a lot. Nick did it in the St. Pierre fight also even raising St. Pierre's hand.

 

Its just their way of getting in the heads of their opponents.

 

And It seems like they dont think before they act a lot. Nick saying the stuff about Taxes and everythign after that one fight was pretty bad.

 

But watchign Nate in the TUF house made me like him a little bit. HE was probobly my favorite fighter on that season.

 

You ever go to any of the events around here? I go to all the UFC events around here when they come here. I went to UFC on Fox 9 a year ago in Sac, UFC fight night in San Jose back in July (The Matt Brown vs Robbie Lawler card), and UFC 177 in August.

Edited December 17, 2014 by ILAK

[AceThaCreator]

Is anyone going to watch the UFC Fight Machida vs Dollaway card this weekend? Any predictions?

[I Love Anna Kournikova]

Machida over Dolloway

Barao over Gagnon

Carlos Junior over Cummins

Magomedov over Silverio (guess)

Rhodes over Silva

Sarafian over Dos Santos

Elkins over Dias

 

The rest I have no clue.

[AceThaCreator]

This card is pretty one sided to even want to watch but i might tune in, ILAK whats your whole take on this Lawsuit situation betweens the fighters & the company?

[I Love Anna Kournikova]

I have no opinion on it really. I watch the UFC for the fights and try t o stay away with all the political bullsh*t.

 

For what its worth Dana White does seem like a piece of sh*t and for how much he makes it seems like the fighters dont get enough.

[AceThaCreator]

I have no opinion on it really. I watch the UFC for the fights and try t o stay away with all the political bullsh*t.

 

For what its worth Dana White does seem like a piece of sh*t and for how much he makes it seems like the fighters dont get enough.

Yeah i also try to stay away from the politics but since i got bleacher report(app)& watch the mma show on fox sports, this sh*t pretty much gets shoved down my throat daily.

 

Dana is a greedy SOB though who's stingy with the payouts but in the end these guys choose to work for him so it is what it is even though i don't agree with how things are. Only a very few fighters make the top dollar while most don't but they do make money in other ways.

 

I guess when it comes down to DW, its all about how marketable & charismatic you are that determines who will make the big money, hopefully someday these guys will do something about it and get a more fairer payout then what they receive.

[I Love Anna Kournikova]

I hate fights in Brazil.

 

The Judges are so Biased its insane. If I were a fighter I would refuse to fight in Bazil because chances are, if it goes to decision your gonna get f*cked.

[El Dildo]

anyone who's kind of fascinated by the whole CM Punk situation can soak up some more detailed insight from Opie and Jim:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QqSVqhViEo

 

it's pretty cool how transparent he is about the business, including pro wrestling.

like how Brock Lesnar was after his stint.

 

if he's honest about how long he's been training, there's no reason to think he couldn't succeed in MMA. it mostly just comes down to whether or not he can take a real punch (or 2, or 3) because technique can always be improved.

Edited December 21, 2014 by El Diablo

[I Love Anna Kournikova]

Thing is, if your first MMA fight ever is in the UFC your chances are not good.

 

I dont care how long you have been training. If he does good, good for him. If he loses no one will be surprised.

 

Also, what the f*ck was I thinking picking Carlos Junior over Cummins? that was dumb. Cummins is getting real good real fast.

Edited December 22, 2014 by ILAK

[AceThaCreator]

Lol no chance he wins unless the fight is fixed(would not be surprised) or the guy he faces is just as inexperienced but he himself even said that hes a white belt in BJJ and has only sparred a number of times and his standup is his weakness in an televised interview.

 

This whole signing is just a publicity stunt combined with a cash cow for Dana White knowing how marketable CM Punk is. I don't think Punk truly knows what hes getting himself into, some of these guys are killers in that cage and hes in gor a rude awakening.

[I Love Anna Kournikova]

Dominick Cruz out again with another ACL Injury. He should probably at least consider retirement.

[AceThaCreator]

That dudes done, great fighter its just his body just ain't built for this sport, so now i take it Barao will get another crack at the title again because Raphael Assuncao is also out with a recent injury(broken ankle). And i know Faber is most likely not to fight Dillashaw right now or mYbe never.

[I Love Anna Kournikova]

Dillashaw and Faber would fight if they get paid enough. At least thats what a lot of the team Alpha Male members think. That might be a good fight to set up. That would get tons of PPV buys.

 

Thats a big if though.

 

I just dont think Barao deserves it yet. Not after that 177 incident.

[AceThaCreator]

I would like to see that fight and as good as Dillashaw is i think Faber would be a tough fight for him. Dillashaw is better standing up and has great wrestling but Faber is known for his great sub game and is a very aggresive fighter. I would say either Dillashaw via decision or Urijah via sub if he was able to rock Dillashaw bad enough.

 

I think it should be that way for any former champ, fighting 2-3 fights before getting another shot because the UFC overdoes the whole rematch fights too frequently. Dos Santos and Velasquez fought 3 times in little under two tears which was too soon but that division is pretty bad compared to the more stacked, lighter divisions.

Edited December 23, 2014 by BlackAce23

[El Dildo]

This whole signing is just a publicity stunt combined with a cash cow for Dana White knowing how marketable CM Punk is. I don't think Punk truly knows what hes getting himself into, some of these guys are killers in that cage and hes in gor a rude awakening.

CM Punk isn't Butterball.

 

I don't know why you assume it's a publicity stunt.

I don't know why anyone assumes that this is anything but a serious athlete trying his hand at another serious challenge in his life.

 

you think he doesn't understand the reality of what he's getting himself into?

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't do this just to make an ass out of himself. if CM Punk just wanted publicity and another big paycheck, there are much much much easier ways he could be doing that. people are so weird....

 

if he gets in the cage and his ass is handed to him, then so be it. all the haters get what they want.

if you already hate him and want to see him fail, where's the fun in that? I just want to see good fights and good storylines and this has all the potential.

[I Love Anna Kournikova]

I don't hate him at all. He seems like a good dude who respects the sport.

 

People think its a publicity stunt because You never see a guy in the UFC that owns a 0-0 rec in MMA.

 

And the UFC hasn't been making fighters happy lately. So doing this isnt exactly making them any more happy. A lot of them feel as if they have worked very hard and went through sh*t to make it to the UFC. Fighting in sh*t cards for sh*t promotions and they earned their way to the top. Then this guy comes in and is given an opportunity just because he is friends with Dana White.

 

Like I said, I don't hate him. But I don't think he is going to do much in the UFC. If he does, good for him. At the end of the day, it gets people talking and I guess thats what the UFC's goal was.

[AceThaCreator]

 

 

This whole signing is just a publicity stunt combined with a cash cow for Dana White knowing how marketable CM Punk is. I don't think Punk truly knows what hes getting himself into, some of these guys are killers in that cage and hes in gor a rude awakening.

CM Punk isn't Butterball.

 

I don't know why you assume it's a publicity stunt.

I don't know why anyone assumes that this is anything but a serious athlete trying his hand at another serious challenge in his life.

 

you think he doesn't understand the reality of what he's getting himself into?

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't do this just to make an ass out of himself. if CM Punk just wanted publicity and another big paycheck, there are much much much easier ways he could be doing that. people are so weird....

 

if he gets in the cage and his ass is handed to him, then so be it. all the haters get what they want.

if you already hate him and want to see him fail, where's the fun in that? I just want to see good fights and good storylines and this has all the potential.

Im not saying its a publicity stunt for him as much as it is for the UFC because Dana knows how popular Punk is and hes doesn't care if he wins or gets embarrassed, hes profitting the most off of it in the end. I know that hes a passionate mma fan himself and has trained in martial arts & bjj but hes very limited compared to the top fighters in his knowledge and experience in fighting. He hasn't even fought in the amateurs yet and hes going straight to the big leagues which is not a good idea. Even Brock had one fight before he stepped in the UFC but then again, he had more experience then Punk(collegiate wrestler) and a freak athlete. Im not a CM PUNK hater and i liked him when he was in the WWE but im speaking the truth, he has got to win or this will make him look bad in the end but the top 10 middleweights in the UFC are the real deal if he makes it that far. Who knows, maybe he will prove me wrong and build an impressive streak, we will see.

[El Dildo]

fair enough.

I guess I wasn't calling out you guys as much as UFC fans in general, who always seem to be at odds with Pro Wrestling fans, and it's just so silly. they don't compete. they're both super athletes at the highest level who - despite the cosmetic overlap - are doing completely different performances.

 

to me it's always exciting when contenders from cross-genre sports wind up playing together on the same 'field' so to speak. I think we all win. Dana White might see it as a way to scoop up some easy viewers from the WWE world, but Dana has total control of the company and he doesn't make business decisions based on marketing gimmicks. he's a fan of the sport and he must think CM Punk is legit as anyone else he would allow on board.

 

remember, Dana White was against Kimbo Slice for the longest time and once said that the man "would never fight" in UFC gloves. but Kimbo eventually proved that he can be more than a gimmick.

[I Love Anna Kournikova]

He also Said women would ever fight in the UFC lol.

 

CM Punk actually punched someone I know at a WWE event in Sacramento a few years back. It became a pretty big deal. Dont know if you guys remember that.

[AceThaCreator]

@El Diablo its all good bro, yeah im a fan of both and unlike some can truly appreciate both for what they are and also differentiate the two.

 

Yeah i remember kimbo first starting off as a youtube sensation street fighter that was given a big opportunity and did ok for a bit & maybe Punk will follow suit and even do better, he got ALOT of catching up to do because this sport is envolving fast, guys are getting bigger, stronger, more athletic , & smarter.

 

@ILAK yeah i remember when Punk punched the fan i was watching that episode even though it happened after. Some prick kept shoving him & he hit the wrong guy, he's definitely got a short temper.

 

One things for sure, NEVER take everything Dana White says seriously, the guy always contradicts himself. Hes all about the money nowadays, whatever sells, he will jump on.

 

Oh yeah Merry Christmas to you guys btw.

[I Love Anna Kournikova]

Prediction time!

 

Jones over Cormier via Decision

Cerrone over Jury via Decision

Tavares over marquardt via Decision

Gaudinot over Horiguchi via RNC

Lombard over Burkman via KO

Castillo over Felder via GNP

Garbrandt over Brimage via Sub

Jordan over Cannover via TKO

Dunham over Damm via Decision

Akhemedov over Nielson via Dec

Dufresne over Reneau via having the cooler last name.

[AceThaCreator]

Im not gonna lie, i don't know who half the guys on this list are but im picking Jones over Cormier for sure. The reason why is because of diversity in his fight game(stand up, wrestling, and sub), and his range(10" reach adv). I think Jones picks him apart from the outside and shuts Cormier down with every takedown attempt. I don't see neither finishing neither but Jones will once again show why he is the pound 4 pound best, love him or hate him. Cormier does have one punch ko power and great wrestling but question is can he close the distance with a fast and rangy opponent like Jones and utilize one or both.

 

For some of the other fights i pick Cerrone, Tavares, & Lombard.

Edited December 31, 2014 by BlackAce23

[I Love Anna Kournikova]

I'm listing from my phone on four hours of sleep while feeding my baby at 6:30 am at so forgive me if this post is tough to understand.

 

I just don't think Cormier has faced the level of competition that Jones has. Henderson is getting old, cummins Was a week replacement fighting out of s Starbucks.

 

Jones is use to the title bouts.

 

I am going to be following the prelims close as Castillo and Garbrandt are Team Alpha Male. Garbrandt is an up and comer with a tough first UFC fight against Brinage. Castillo is coming off a controversial loss to Tony Ferguson at 177 but I think should beat Felder.

 

Also can't wait for the Cerrone/Jury fight. I like both those guys so don't really care who wins. Just hoping for w 3 round war.

[AceThaCreator]

Congrats on the new baby man but on topic, i 100% agree with you, he hasn't had any challenges with the opponents that he had to face, he has had it too easy.

 

Hendo was like two weight classes smaller than DC in that which wasn't fair, an out of prime Frank Mir, A barista, and a guy that ONLY spams the same punch over again with bad cardio. Jones has faced some straight up killers such as Vitor, Shogun, Rampage, Glover, Machida, Gus and the list goes on and made them all look really bad.

 

He has been tested, almost subbed by Vitor, rocked by Machida and kept cool, and pushed very hard in a five round battle with Gus. Jones imo will shut DC down with his 10" reach advantage and his array of attacks standing up and if he can get DC down, has deadly ground and pound. DC has a great wrestling base and apunches chance so theres still a possibility that he can win.

 

Cerrone has been on a tear as of lately, hell both guys have and i thinks its fair if Cowboy wins to give him another crack at the belt with Nurmagomedov being out due to injury. And if Jury wins, give him a top 5 then a title shot.

[AceThaCreator]

My review on Ufc 182 that besides the main, it was awful. On the main card, there three fights where one of the two guys kept backing and running while the other was being the aggressor & that sh*t was frustrating to watch. Cerrone, and Tavares fought like they really wanted it and even though Lombard won, i felt he was being too complacent. I didn't see the undercard and the first opening fights due to watching the steelers vs ravens game yesterday along with the fight so i can't rate those. The main event however made up for this bad event and both men brought it to each other. I was really surprised that DC didn't try and go for takedowns early in the fight, he kinda just looked confused when fighting Jones and i think it has all to do with the reach. Atleast Cormier brought the fight to Jones despite having issues dealing with his range and Jones TDD. He got Jones pretty good in the clinch, but the biggest factor in Jones winning is cardio which DC ran out of by round 4. I see DC coming back to fight him again but i say give him the loser of Gus vs Johnson and the winner of that fight gets Jones.

[I Love Anna Kournikova]

Pretty spot on. No arguments here.

 

You missed the KO of the night with Felder knocking out Castillo with a spinning backfist. It was brutal.

 

Plus Garbrandt looked good against Brimage KOing him with seconds remaining.