Democrab Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 That crosshair thing is because of ATI Eyefinity with the HD5xx0's, you don't have to have it like that, you can have it so you have one screen playing the game and the other with Firefox, MSN, etc open. I use it for having iTunes or a Walkthrough on harder games (Or for achievements if we're talking 360/GFWL here), VERY useful, everyone that goes dual screen will tell you so, only people who have no experience with it say otherwise. (No offense Warlord, but this is something you really have to use to know why its so good compared to the alternative, mainly because we all would do different things with it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roastyleg Posted October 17, 2009 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 (edited) i am gonna get a 24" and then later down the road get a 22" or somthing. as i think 22 might be a bit to small for a single screen for gaming. is the dell Dell UltraSharp U2410 worth getting, its listed as $800 on dell website has 1920x1200 res, 6ms response time, and very good colors apparently, where could i find this screen cheaper as dell website is overpriced. Edited October 17, 2009 by Roastyleg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebernanut Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 That monitor uses an IPS panel which is great for image editing and other tasks that take advantage of the better color reproduction however the response time on IPS panels is very poor for gaming(not to mention they are more expensive). That 6ms response time you mentioned is gtg(grey to grey), most TN panels are 2ms gtg though sometimes they are listed as 5ms btb(black to black). 6ms gtg is a higher response time than I would want but for some people the ghosting is less noticeable than it is for others. I would recommend that you try to find someplace with similarly specced monitor on display somewhere that you can see it in person with a video or game displayed(with some fast movement). If the high response time doesn't seem to bother you then the higher price might be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roastyleg Posted October 17, 2009 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 ok what about this monitor? http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_p...oducts_id=11546 is that a ips monitor or tn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebernanut Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I'm not sure if that one is an IPS panel(or possibly PVA), but the 5ms response time seems suspicious. Black to black and grey to grey is a measurement of rise and fall(i.e.: rise from black to white and then the fall back to black) but the response time on this monitor is listed as on/off which makes me think that it is just a measurement of the fall and it doesn't even specify whether it's black or grey. I would guess that it is an IPS or PVA panel based on the dubious response time and high price, which again isn't bad but isn't the best for gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roastyleg Posted October 17, 2009 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 i had a look on whirlpool forums, like aus's best forums, and people that have the dell ips minitors say that when you use game mode its actullay a good screen for gaming just colors change a bit, so i could go with that because i will be doing a bit of editing to, also what tn panel monitors have like 2ms response time and 1920x1200 res? im having trouble findem em that arent IPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebernanut Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 it seems that the 1920x1200 res monitors are being phased out in favor of 1920x1080, when I bought my monitor about a month ago there were more than now but they are still available. I would guess that the IPS panels don't get updated as often and just haven't gone to 1920x1080 yet. The higher response times of IPS panels cause ghosting which is bad for gaming and video(it bothers people different amounts) but the better color range is better for image editing, pick your poison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democrab Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 i am gonna get a 24" and then later down the road get a 22" or somthing. as i think 22 might be a bit to small for a single screen for gaming. is the dell Dell UltraSharp U2410 worth getting, its listed as $800 on dell website has 1920x1200 res, 6ms response time, and very good colors apparently, where could i find this screen cheaper as dell website is overpriced. No way, 22" is not too small for gaming, I use a 22" for my PC gaming AND my console (360) gaming, its definitely big enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roastyleg Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 Joe i might actually get 2 22" monitors now, seeming that i can get to of those benq g2220hd for $400, ill be saving myself alot instead of one 24" thats like $700, also just say i wanna play crysis maxedon one screen and the other scrren i want like the internet on, will the game run slower because im using 2 screens at once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democrab Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Not that I can tell, I maxed Warhead on my HD4890 with two screens so you should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roastyleg Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 and can you make it that the crosshairs on any game arnt in the middle of the two screens so u actually see them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democrab Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 It uses one screen so its like normal gaming, except that you have something open in the other window. Unless you use Eyefinity (I'd use it for non-FPS style games, like RTS or Simulation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I saw RTS I believe, mentioned with regard to an Xbox game, Raven Squad IIRC, looked interesting, what is that? RTS? I am not a fan of FPS, but the game was said to combine the genres I would favor the Intel CPU, but I await to see what kind of new chips make it to market, and the price adjustments as such. Nvidia has it's joint GPU/CPU (with Intel Atom) that is buzz worthy for smaller systems. I think it's still prudent to wait on some of the newer tech to come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roastyleg Posted October 19, 2009 Author Share Posted October 19, 2009 but when the new tech comes out the price will be way high, and im not made of money. but then when the new stuff comes the old stuff lowers in price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 It can depend largely on cost, but roll out will be steep probably, the thing is evident in the DDR2 RAM being MUCH cheaper then the older RAM, and the reverse was true of RAMBUS, which is good memory but steep in cost due to the process, and SDRAM won the battle. I think in long term, it's still an intermediate step the magazines were saying, as far as what they are working and what is available now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democrab Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 but when the new tech comes out the price will be way high, and im not made of money. but then when the new stuff comes the old stuff lowers in price. Ignore Slammy, he's only good in old tech (Pentium 4's, etc). I think in long term, it's still an intermediate step the magazines were saying, as far as what they are working and what is available now Magazines are full of bullsh*t and bias for certain companies though, notice the ads from Intel/nVidia/ATI/AMD in them? Heh, I don't game as much as I used to so I'm selling my HD4890, getting another 9600GT and running them in SLI on my 790GX motherboard with a SLI hack because in total, it actually uses less power than my HD4890 while having only a little less FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roastyleg Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 Didnt think this warrants its own topic so, I have read that the antec p183 case can hold Video cards thats are 10.5 inches long, but the ATI HD5870 is 11 inches, should i be looking for a new case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebernanut Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 It depends on whether the info you got is referring to a 10.5" card with power connector(s) on the end or side. A 10.5" card with connectors on the end would likely take more space than an 11" card with connectors on the side(like the 5870). What exactly is in the way makes a difference too, I've seen people cut the end off of an empty drive bay to get large cards into a cramped case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roastyleg Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 the HDD cage is in the way but apparently you can unscrew them to put 120mm fans to then the card will have like 4 extra inches of room, might look it up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I just grab any ole ATA cabinet, and I retrofit boards into what works best. But, if you bought a nice case already, go for it! Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campo. Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Shut up slamman. You don't bring anything good to the topic, EVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democrab Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I just grab any ole ATA cabinet, and I retrofit boards into what works best. But, if you bought a nice case already, go for it! Good luck Shoo. Take out the HDD cage, it will fit then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Shut up slamman. You don't bring anything good to the topic, EVER. I've seen two of your posts, both of which are bashing Slamman and contribute absolutely nothing to the topic at hand. Once more, shut the f*ck up, and don't post unless you have some sort of input on the topic of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campo. Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I do have input. i7 would be better than PhII and 5870 is better than 4870 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democrab Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Shut up slamman. You don't bring anything good to the topic, EVER. I've seen two of your posts, both of which are bashing Slamman and contribute absolutely nothing to the topic at hand. Once more, shut the f*ck up, and don't post unless you have some sort of input on the topic of discussion. Give this guy a chance to talk about the stuff adn he'll know what he's talking about, I know him off another forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campo. Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Shut up slamman. You don't bring anything good to the topic, EVER. I've seen two of your posts, both of which are bashing Slamman and contribute absolutely nothing to the topic at hand. Once more, shut the f*ck up, and don't post unless you have some sort of input on the topic of discussion. Give this guy a chance to talk about the stuff adn he'll know what he's talking about, I know him off another forum. Yeah, just hate slamman. I know what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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