JohnnyTheJew Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 So what kind of achievements will there be in EFLC? This is obviously just for the DLC pack cause it's only the additional 250 points... Will EFLC have 1000 points or what? Right now, we don't know. Personally, I can see it being counted as a separate game, which would require it to have a full 1000G. TLAD - 250G TBOGT - 250G GTA IV Crossover Achievements - 500G There, simple, the crossover achievements already work on TLAD and assuming TBOGT too. What? What do you mean? I'm saying the stand alone disc... Will it have 1000G? It can't have crossover achievements from GTA IV, what if somebody doesn't have GTA IV? Uhh, I try and be simple and people still get confused. GTA IV has cross over achievements that can be done in TLAD, such as Finish Him, One Man Army, Chain Reaction, etc, there's over 500G worth of these. So for the Episodes from Liberty City disc, they just throw these achievements on to fill out the 1,000. That way you'll get the 500 that the DLC brings and the 500 or so that the cross over ones brings, leaving out the other 500 or so that are tied to Niko's story/gameplay. i certainly understand your view now here i thought if i downloaded it off xbox live there was gonna be 500G more on the disc and not the DLC i thought ide get ripped off. Thats cool tho i didnt know you could do that =) What he says is not really confirmed... He's just guessing. And you do get 500G more on the disc, it's just the achievements that already existed in GTA IV from what he's saying. But he could be wrong. They might make new achievements just for the disc or they might just make the TLAD and TBOGT achievements worth more points and just leave them in there... For example an achivement that's worth 5G for TLAD in IV will be worth 20G in EFLC just to match the required 1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoii Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 i really doubt there will be 1000 for the disc Why? I can certainly see it happening. One of the main attractions for the disc is that you don't need IV to run it, but if they just counted EFLC as a IV disc, then people without IV would never be able to get all of the achievements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schweppez Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I seriously doubt EFLC will have 1000g. These are just DLCs. Just because its called EFLC doesn't mean its its own full game. The disc is merely just something for the people who don't have xbox live or a hard drive to download it to. And calling it EFLC was so people wouldn't have to keep referring to it as "The Lost & Damned And The Ballad of Gay Tony". As you can see, both DLCs have 250g, adding up to 500g. Even when its in your face you guys keep thinking it'll have 1000g. Geez.... Im just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowdro420 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I seriously doubt EFLC will have 1000g. These are just DLCs. Just because its called EFLC doesn't mean its its own full game. The disc is merely just something for the people who don't have xbox live or a hard drive to download it to. And calling it EFLC was so people wouldn't have to keep referring to it as "The Lost & Damned And The Ballad of Gay Tony". As you can see, both DLCs have 250g, adding up to 500g. Even when its in your face you guys keep thinking it'll have 1000g. Geez.... Im just saying. this. why would they give people who bought the disc MORE achievements, than people who simply download it from XBL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoii Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I seriously doubt EFLC will have 1000g. These are just DLCs. Just because its called EFLC doesn't mean its its own full game. The disc is merely just something for the people who don't have xbox live or a hard drive to download it to. And calling it EFLC was so people wouldn't have to keep referring to it as "The Lost & Damned And The Ballad of Gay Tony". As you can see, both DLCs have 250g, adding up to 500g. Even when its in your face you guys keep thinking it'll have 1000g. Geez.... Im just saying. All retail games must have an achievable 1000G, that's something that has to happen. If it doesn't, Microsoft most probably won't allow it. Now, if EFLC used IV's achievement list etc, some people would not be able to get all 1000G, hence it most probably not even being allowed by Microsoft. That's why I think that it will have it's own achievement list, even if they're just recycled from the IV achievements, I doubt that they will use the same list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder. Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I doubt EFLC will have 1000G, considering that the AC/DC Track Pack for Rock Band was a retail only expansion and it still only had 250 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsta312 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 (edited) All retail games must have an achievable 1000G, that's something that has to happen. If it doesn't, Microsoft most probably won't allow it. Now, if EFLC used IV's achievement list etc, some people would not be able to get all 1000G, hence it most probably not even being allowed by Microsoft. That's why I think that it will have it's own achievement list, even if they're just recycled from the IV achievements, I doubt that they will use the same list. Retail or not, Episodes is still considered a compilation pack, rather than a full game, which is why I don't see the game having 1000Gs, even if some of the achievements were recycled from IV. But it seems that while R* is promoting Episodes, Microsoft is promoting the 2nd DLC only. On the official XBOX website, Microsoft did not even mentioned "Episodes from Liberty City" at all. Even the BOGT trailers that R* released for download on XBL were slightly altered to promote downloading the 2nd DLC, removing any mention of "Episodes" and it's logo. If you check the upcoming games listed on XBOX.com, it doesn't even have "Episodes" listed on there. Edited October 6, 2009 by shinsta312 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Notorious MOB Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 (edited) I think they'll use the non-mission specific acheivements from GTA IV like one man army etc. to make up the extra 500G. I think this is the best way of doing it (presuming of course those achievements ad up to 500g) it's just a theory I really need to look at the list for GTA IV and count up the points first. EDIT: I just checked and the acheivements that aren't exclusive to Niko's story only ad up to about 280g (not including Multiplayer acheivements which I think are also exclusive to Niko) Edited October 6, 2009 by Money Over Bullshit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnchantedX360 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 MS will probably go about the 2 episodes the same way they go about Xbox Live Arcade games do on disc. Each game offers 200 gamer points achieveable via each Arcade game. In this instance they are allowing 250 for each game... Not a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Notorious MOB Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 It's possible that there may be more acheivements though... aren't some of the acheivements hidden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aChaChaCha Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 It's possible that there may be more acheivements though... aren't some of the acheivements hidden? For the Lost and Damned iii think they were all viewable, except maybe the odd story-linked acheivment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoii Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 It's possible that there may be more acheivements though... aren't some of the acheivements hidden? Nope, from what I can remember IV doesn't have any secret achievements. The BOGT achievements definitely aren't secret, and they would still show up on the list if they were secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Notorious MOB Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 It's possible that there may be more acheivements though... aren't some of the acheivements hidden? Nope, from what I can remember IV doesn't have any secret achievements. The BOGT achievements definitely aren't secret, and they would still show up on the list if they were secret. Well that answers that then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostSoul 301281 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Not only all of this, but it would be a big rip off and a kick in the balls to the fans if extra achievements were added to EFLC. Considering EFLC was not announced until TBoGT was named and dated, people would have already bought TLaD, so therefore by adding extra achievements to EFLC would be like trying to rip off the fans. It would be like saying "you've already downloaded TLaD, but if you want the extra achievements you'll have to buy it again in this package". The idea behind releasing EFLC is for the GTA IV fans the own an Xbox360 but do not have it hooked up to Live. R* doesn't want those fans missing out. EFLC is aimed at those who have already played GTA IV but do not have access to Live. So with that logic, those people should already have unlocked most, if not all of the single player achievements for GTA IV. Also, EFLC achievements will more than likely show up under GTA IV's achievements as TLaD and TBoGT rather than by themselves as EFLC, just as TLaD achievements already do and as TBoGT will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoii Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 (edited) EFLC is aimed at those who have already played GTA IV but do not have access to Live. True, but not only them, because there's focus around the fact that you don't need to have played IV to play EFLC. I can't really see Microsoft letting a game through certification if it has unachievable achievements. Edited October 6, 2009 by Enjoii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostSoul 301281 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I have a theory for those of you thinking that EFLC will carry the full 1000GS. So, EFLC will contain TLaD and TBoGT and will play as a stand alone game. Meaning it wont need a copy of GTA IV to be able to play it. This much we know. My theory is, Rockstar have secretly created a third episode with achievements totaling 500GS, which they are bundling onto the disc and plan to release at a later date via download. This would put EFLC's achievements up to the full 1000GS. It's just a theory, but I thought I'd just put it out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd13killer Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 HAHAHAHA i love your innocence and silliness ... you are like a child jk, but hahahaha.... that was funny... they will most likely not do that... hahahaha... probably take out some gta4 acheivements as trade overs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyTheJew Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 First of all if you're that big of a fan you'd get the EFLC even though you own a TLAD... Second, how is it a kick in the balls? Are achievements really THAT big of a deal to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostSoul 301281 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 First of all if you're that big of a fan you'd get the EFLC even though you own a TLAD... Second, how is it a kick in the balls? Are achievements really THAT big of a deal to you? They are to some people. And besides, if you do already own TLaD, why would you buy EFLC? Not even the most hardcore fan would waste money that way. Would they? And to sd13killer. I posted the same thing on another forum, where I "know" someone who was a tester on TLaD, and their reply was "I'd love to be able to tell you." If they're still involved with Rockstar they could be saying that what I mentioned was close to the mark, but they're not allowed to say anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd13killer Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGBeast Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 First of all if you're that big of a fan you'd get the EFLC even though you own a TLAD... Second, how is it a kick in the balls? Are achievements really THAT big of a deal to you? They are to some people. And besides, if you do already own TLaD, why would you buy EFLC? Not even the most hardcore fan would waste money that way. Would they? And to sd13killer. I posted the same thing on another forum, where I "know" someone who was a tester on TLaD, and their reply was "I'd love to be able to tell you." If they're still involved with Rockstar they could be saying that what I mentioned was close to the mark, but they're not allowed to say anything. Why wouldn't I? It's not wasting money to me. I collect multiple versions of Rockstar games anyway, so not only will I have the TLAD box, and EFLC, but I'll also be able to delete TLAD on my HDD to make more room and just play off the disk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Infamous Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I really think that the Maestro achievement, you get when you in the last mission is dancing in a ballad with gay tony to the song "The Look" by roxette. You gotta dance perfectly to achieve it. When you finish Luis and Tony will live a happy gay life...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGLuke Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I really think that the Maestro achievement, you get when you in the last mission is dancing in a ballad with gay tony to the song "The Look" by roxette. You gotta dance perfectly to achieve it. When you finish Luis and Tony will live a happy gay life...... Now i know rockstar wouldnt go that gay i would hope not anyway You get the (Diamonds forever) achievement by beating the last mission You get the (Maestro) achievement by beating the first mission That's how it was in [email protected], don't see why they would change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostSoul 301281 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 You get the (Diamonds forever) achievement by beating the last mission You get the (Maestro) achievement by beating the first mission That's how it was in [email protected], don't see why they would change it. Considering Diamonds Forever is clearly about the museum mission, I don't see how that could be the last mission. And also considering that the achievement details for the Maestro achievement say that it's for "finishing the ballad", I'd say that that is the last mission achievement. Also, considering where the museum is in both IV and TLaD stories, I'd say that it will be roughly in the middle of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restelo94 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Lol, 'dance in both Tony's clubs'. I wonder what 'drug wars' are.. @Scottendo: A Maestro is someone who performs art or something. For example: a Ballad. Dance in both Tony's clubs? Does that mean we can pull moves on the gays in hercules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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