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Sanjeem

Isn't This proof that Islam is God's religeon?

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XAF226

1. The Big Bang THEORY hasn't been proven 100%

2. There are multiple God THEORIES that consider the Big Bang THEORY as a possible fact A.K.A. THEORY

3. Of the many God THEORIES out there, there are some that don't contradict the Big Bang THEORY

4. Agnosticism > You and your Atheism

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I'm getting SERIOUSLY fed up of Muslims trying to shove their beliefs down the throats of people with different beliefs.

I'd rather read this than have another 9/11

 

No hard feelings mate!

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1. The Big Bang THEORY hasn't been proven 100%

2. There are multiple God THEORIES that consider the Big Bang THEORY as a possible fact A.K.A. THEORY

3. Of the many God THEORIES out there, there are some that don't contradict the Big Bang THEORY

4. Agnosticism > You and your Atheism

Agnosticism = Idiotism.

"Ooohh, I dont know if there is a god but I think no but people say yes and my brain comfused so I'm Agnostic".

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Not at all. Religious folks use anecdotal or circumstantial evidence to prove their religion all the time. This is neither different nor convincing.

Faith doesn't require proof. We are all living in darkness. Faith is the hope that somewhere there is a light that can bring you out of the abyss.

And no, Islam is not Gods religion. It's not so simple. Life is a lottery in all domains. All domains. One man lives, another dies, one man marries a woman he loves, another dies alone, one man lands a job in the government, another lies in a gutter and drinks himself into uselessness.

Do you really feel that God is so unreasonable that he would punish us for picking the wrong option out of hundreds of belief systems and codes? God may be a mass murderer but he's fair.

Just live with love in your heart, try your best to forgive those who wrong you, be compassionate, be merciful and God will not forsake you.

Good people do not need a label or a symbol. They're just good.

See what I mean?

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1. The Big Bang THEORY hasn't been proven 100%

2. There are multiple God THEORIES that consider the Big Bang THEORY as a possible fact A.K.A. THEORY

3. Of the many God THEORIES out there, there are some that don't contradict the Big Bang THEORY

4. Agnosticism > You and your Atheism

Agnosticism = Idiotism.

"Ooohh, I dont know if there is a god but I think no but people say yes and my brain comfused so I'm Agnostic".

Nooo.....

 

It's called common sense. God cannot be disproved or proved.

 

I'm not even arguing with such close-mindedness.

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Not at all. Religious folks use anecdotal or circumstantial evidence to prove their religion all the time. This is neither different nor convincing.

Faith doesn't require proof. We are all living in darkness. Faith is the hope that somewhere there is a light that can bring you out of the abyss.

And no, Islam is not Gods religion. It's not so simple. Life is a lottery in all domains. All domains. One man lives, another dies, one man marries a woman he loves, another dies alone, one man lands a job in the government, another lies in a gutter and drinks himself into uselessness.

Do you really feel that God is so unreasonable that he would punish us for picking the wrong option out of hundreds of belief systems and codes? God may be a mass murderer but he's fair.

Just live with love in your heart, try your best to forgive those who wrong you, be compassionate, be merciful and God will not forsake you.

Good people do not need a label or a symbol. They're just good.

See what I mean?

I dont. Throw a priest, simple man and a prisoner from the roof. Will that God you belive in help the one of them he thinks he's good and wont help the bad one? No. They will all die. Remember WW2? So many people died for complete nothing. People cant deal with that so they say that is a test of their god. It's not. It's one man (yes - human) who decided to murdur 20 milion innocent people and did so. Someone "godish" stoped him? No. I can go now and shoot a good man and a bad man in the head. Will the "good" one survive? Also no. To deal with this problem, the stupid religious thought about Heaven and Hell. So stupid. There is no God, Heaven, Hell. There is a realistic, cold, uncesored life and if we will keep waiting for a god to help us, nothing will change. The only good thing I find in Monotheism is that it realised us from Polytheism, to the next level - Atheism. Without Monotheism, people who belived in many gods couldnt think "there is no god", they should first belive in one, and then understand that there are no gods. Atheism is a result of a good, clean social evolution. Invented by Avraham. Now you can choose if to stay where you are or join the next level of humanity.

@General Goose: Are you "close-minded" on beliving in Goblins? You think that it's absored so I can say yes. That is what I think about the god theory. No chanse to be posible, like goblins, but you can belive or say that they are unproved and still have a happy life. A happy but in-denial life. The chanses for God are the chanses for Goblins. No chanse.

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1. The Big Bang THEORY hasn't been proven 100%

2. There are multiple God THEORIES that consider the Big Bang THEORY as a possible fact A.K.A. THEORY

3. Of the many God THEORIES out there, there are some that don't contradict the Big Bang THEORY

4. Agnosticism > You and your Atheism

Agnosticism = Idiotism.

"Ooohh, I dont know if there is a god but I think no but people say yes and my brain comfused so I'm Agnostic".

Haha tounge2.gif

 

This is coming from the guy who believed the moon was hollow! lol.gif

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Asoyfy37
1. The Big Bang THEORY hasn't been proven 100%

2. There are multiple God THEORIES that consider the Big Bang THEORY as a possible fact A.K.A. THEORY

3. Of the many God THEORIES out there, there are some that don't contradict the Big Bang THEORY

4. Agnosticism > You and your Atheism

Agnosticism = Idiotism.

"Ooohh, I dont know if there is a god but I think no but people say yes and my brain comfused so I'm Agnostic".

Haha tounge2.gif

 

This is coming from the guy who believed the moon was hollow! lol.gif

I guess you dont understand jokes. And you feel the need to change the subject after the religious here failed in proving it's point.

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XAF226

You believed NASA was about to blow up the moon too.

You also believe that it was a conspiracy theory, and that NASA blew up alien bases.

You believe that Obama is 1/4 Arab, 1/2 Black, and 1/2 African.

You believe that Obama and Shimon Peres are both shape shifting aliens that take control of humans.

You believe that it is possible for a Christian to believe in Judaism.

You had no idea what an asylum was.

Your homepage is for UFO Hunters.

You have a horrible grasp on the most basic things.

 

But those are all jokes, right? turn.gif

 

You said Agnosticism = Idiotism. In all of your "im a atheist jew, religous are bad" posts you never cease to show your sheer hypocrisy. You say that anybody who believes in religion is wrong, then you say that as an Atheist you are right. So what makes you so right? God has never been proven/disproven, and no theory contradicts the belief that God could exist outside all reality/logic/theories. A large amount of what you believe in are theories, yet you regard them as 100% proven fact. This just helps to show how close minded you are about any other beliefs but your own. So I just decided to pick out the stupid things that you have said, and from what I see it looks like you sir, are an idiot.

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Mad Tony

 

God may have made the Big Bang.

 

Since God cannot be disproved or proved, we must settle for not knowing.

This. icon14.gif

 

@Asoyfy37: If you think there definitely is no God, then prove it. You moan about religious people shoving their beliefs down your throat yet you're doing the exact same thing.

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General Goose

Asofy: You're closeminded for calling agnostics idiotic. That is closemindedness.

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Typhus

 

Now you can choose if to stay where you are or join the next level of humanity.

People like you are the reason normal people like me become militant in our beliefs.

Why do you hate us?

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agincourtsalute

Why don't you ask why in some places seals have to cross narrow streams of shark infested warm water in the open ocean?

 

Its nothing to do with any God, different types of water don't mix together because of the difference in density.

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Svip
Now you can choose if to stay where you are or join the next level of humanity.

People like you are the reason normal people like me become militant in our beliefs.

Why do you hate us?

Because he too is a militant.

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Mad Tony

Without militants there would be no war.

 

It's true you know.

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Svip
Without militants there would be no war.

 

It's true you know.

But even ideologies can have militants. But you are correct.

 

But, it should be noted, it is not always militants who start wars, it could be because of a reigning militant, a war or revolution breaks out.

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Without militants there would be no war.

 

It's true you know.

But even ideologies can have militants. But you are correct.

 

But, it should be noted, it is not always militants who start wars, it could be because of a reigning militant.

?????????? lol....... I just don't understand how that makes sense?

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Svip
Without militants there would be no war.

 

It's true you know.

But even ideologies can have militants. But you are correct.

 

But, it should be noted, it is not always militants who start wars, it could be because of a reigning militant.

?????????? lol....... I just don't understand how that makes sense?

Different topic. I agree that the choice of "but" to begin with was misleading.

 

I argue that he is right, but also political ideologies can stem militants. Militants (or fundamentalists) are individuals within a religion, religious society, political ideology or some other society associated with an idea, whom call it upon themselves to fight for this idea. This is why they also apply to the term "the loud minority".

 

Their "harsh" opinions seldom reflect the more moderate people within the same believers of the idea.

 

Militants will come in many forms. They won't just be terrorists fighting in underground environments. They used to be kings and queens, and rulers of nations. Some still are.

 

The Second World War started because of Hitler's obsession with his idea of "Lebensraum". And since Poland would not give into Germany's demands, war was inevitable.

 

But that war seems obvious. What about the First World War? Were militants involved here? Yes, but an idea can also be that concept of national pride or simplistic concept that "war is good".

 

Since this concept was so common prior to the 20th century, there were often war in Europe.

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Asoyfy37

One question left - why the religious people are allowed to say anything they want, while the Athists cant tell the Pope "there is no God"?

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General Goose

Erm...that is so inaccurate. You CAN tell the Pope (not in his face obviously) that God does not exist, but he is so deeply rooted in his beliefs (as expected) he will shrug you off.

 

Saying anything opinionated will likely piss someone off, whether the comment is atheist or religious.

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Mad Tony
Erm...that is so inaccurate. You CAN tell the Pope (not in his face obviously) that God does not exist, but he is so deeply rooted in his beliefs (as expected) he will shrug you off.

 

Saying anything opinionated will likely piss someone off, whether the comment is atheist or religious.

Again, you are the voice of reason. icon14.gif

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Svip
One question left - why the religious people are allowed to say anything they want, while the Athists cant tell the Pope "there is no God"?

Did you just pull that one out of your ass?

 

You aren't even trying any more.

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One question left - why the religious people are allowed to say anything they want, while the Athists cant tell the Pope "there is no God"?

Did you just pull that one out of your ass?

 

You aren't even trying any more.

No man, not at all. It makes me angry that the religious people use the power of religion to tell me what to do. In Israel, most of the stores dont sell you pork, some people will throw rocks at you when you are in thier area, driving a car on Saturday, and on one specific day, they call it Yom Kipur people will throw rocks at ambulances just because they drive. And the police allow it all because "they are free to act by thier belivings". And there are much, much worse things you dont even want to know, but I can just tell you that the religious people do whatever they want, and are allowed because of the religious freedom rules here. Most of the information about them I have on the area I live in, but I heard about other religious problems in other countries. Not enough to post about it like it's a fact, but I just know that any religion is free from all everywhere. They even dont have to serv the army, because their life is more important then ours, can you belive it?!

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General Goose

Yeah, noone's denying religious extremism and nuttiness exists. The pork example's fair...it seems you're living in a Jewish settlement. I doubt the pork market is that big. The rock example is unfair and stupid, but, sh*t happens. That's relatively isolated. The rest of the post I don't understand, though I did make something out about the army...confused.gif

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Yeah, noone's denying religious extremism and nuttiness exists. The pork example's fair...it seems you're living in a Jewish settlement. I doubt the pork market is that big. The rock example is unfair and stupid, but, sh*t happens. That's relatively isolated. The rest of the post I don't understand, though I did make something out about the army...confused.gif

This "Jewish settelment" called Israel. The religious people dont allow to bring pork to the army if they serv, but most of the time they dont even try to join the army. It's ilegal NOT to join the army here, but the religious people somehow proved that the army dont give them to do what they want with their belifes, so they dont have to serv. Get it? I go to the war zone and some terrorist will shoot me, and it would be fair enough, if the religious would also serv, but no, they do only what they want, and also taking our goverment's money! Dont serv the army and get paid for that! No wonder they "live in peace"! And I sure that they do the same problems in your country too. WE should realy stop paying for their stupid churches, tamples or mosqes or whatever gives them the oportunity to steal my own money.

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Mad Tony

Israel, a country where the vast majority of people are religious, has a rather large army. How do you suppose there are so many people in it if no religious people join?

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All these allegations of widespread corruption and draft dodging, while true in quarters, do not apply to most individuals who are religious.

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Israel, a country where the vast majority of people are religious, has a rather large army. How do you suppose there are so many people in it if no religious people join?

Israel's citizens are about 7 milion. Everybody that is not religious join the army. The religion has a lot of respect around here, but I can say that only 250000 of the religious people dont join the army, while their health is good enough to join. Out of 7 milion, it's a large group. and they also steal our goverment's money. Most of the other people here are not too religious, and they usually join the army. Some people pretend to be religious just because they dont want to join. I never saw someone Atheist as I am in Israel, most of the people here dont eat pork, dont eat in Yom Kipur and celebrate the holidays. And they always tell me to do it all, but I dont give their religious violence to effect me. Anyway, thos people who dont join are theifs, and should be put into the military jail. Statisticly, 10 years from now, there will be too much religious money theifs, too much people wont join the army and the country will break down. That and more personal reasons are the reasons that I hate religion.

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General Goose

Well, conscription for one thing is complete bullsh*t.

 

And religion is often one of the main reasons for conscientious objecting. This is an example of religious people living in peace (to mention your rants in another article), and I'd hardly call conscientious objecting stealing. And also, not enough people joining the army won't break down a country.

 

Not an expert on the conscription situation in Israel, and I also don't feel like arguing with an intolerant hater, so I'll be off.

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Well, conscription for one thing is complete bullsh*t.

 

And religion is often one of the main reasons for conscientious objecting. This is an example of religious people living in peace (to mention your rants in another article), and I'd hardly call conscientious objecting stealing. And also, not enough people joining the army won't break down a country.

 

Not an expert on the conscription situation in Israel, and I also don't feel like arguing with an intolerant hater, so I'll be off.

All we have is a good army. Maby your country wont break down without an army, but Israel will. That is why I will serv.

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