PearlHarborPants Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Seriously speaking, If R* give me a plane now, i'm not even going to have fun with it. Neither am i going to use it. Parachutes give me enough content to not use a plane at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsta312 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 (edited) Dodos would've been a possibility, as you can see them flying in Liberty City from time to time, but jetplanes were out of the question. And 9/11 wasn't even the main reason. The use of planes (well...jets at least) was highly unnecessary when helicopters can take you from one borough to another in less than a minute. Anyway, you guys can argue all you want about the possibility of flyable planes in Liberty City. It doesn't change the fact that they won't be in TBOGT. BTW, I don't mind seeing the dodo again in the next game, but don't bring jets again unless the location is from a big state, like San Andreas. Edited October 5, 2009 by shinsta312 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddsock Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 They gave reasons as to why they weren't there, I won't bother giving them to you because you've proven your ignorance, and I don't need to prove anything to anyone who's not smart enough to see reality for what it is. Wow, that was harsh! It's good to see a general promotion of the idea of planes. I figure this video would attract as many skeptics and naysayers than it would supporters of adding planes (even though it's agreed it is highly unlikely it will not happen). "Why can't there be a Jetpack or a hovercraft in GTA IV" ...The REASON is simple,Rockstar Games CANT put everything you want in that game Well, I don't agree that's the reason. GTA IV was meant to be more realistic, or that seems to be the general consensus. Jetpacks and hovercrafts are not very realistic if you ask me, but I think most of us see planes as being a reasonable request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsta312 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Jetpacks and hovercrafts are not very realistic if you ask me, but I think most of us see planes as being a reasonable request. The dodo maybe. Not so much on the large planes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddsock Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 Jetpacks and hovercrafts are not very realistic if you ask me, but I think most of us see planes as being a reasonable request. The dodo maybe. Not so much on the large planes though. Oh definitely, I wouldn't ask for a Shamal or even a Hydra -- a small prop plane does me just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amc Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I also remember reading that R* didn't want to add planes because of 911. And GTA3 was released like 2 months after 911, it's not like R* would of took the time to take them out. That would be a waste if time, and made it delayed. You know some asshole would crash a plane into a building then post 9/11 video on youtube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Someguy Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Planes would be pointless. As said already, many of the helicopters can match the speeds of the prop planes, with the added bonus of verticle landing and takeoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd13killer Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 but, if we had some cool planes... like just say, if maybe... (i know its not going to happen) they put in a private jet into the game we could with ease waste the helicopters, and it would just add a lot of fun loopdy loos into the game and flips... which is fun... and imagine how fun the kamikazees would be... XD i was playing GTA 4 not one month ago where someone had modded a plane into the game. It was a private jet that they were swooping around the airport and crashing into people going much faster then anything i've seen in the game... now imagine if some realistic damage could be done to the plane... It would be even funner to see it blow up and stuff like that... and dogfights in the sky would be cool... Imagine you in a helicopter trying to shoot down one... and if they don't add them (which they won't) atleast make the ones in the airport able to blow up! I mean that is freaking annoying... they are invincible for christs sake... and maybe, make it so you can blow those big jet liners out of the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipO43 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 All the reasons I've read here as to why planes "can't" be in the game are nonsensical: "No planes because of 9/11" -I used to think this too. Then I realized something; the only GTA game altered because of 9/11 was III. And it wasn't even about planes! The thing that changed was the color of the police CARS to make them look less like NYPD and more like LAPD. That came out about a month after 9/11 and it STILL had a [semi] flyable plane! "No planes because the city is to small" -Yes this is the excuse R* used but I don't believe it for a second. Even in IV vehicles speeds and handling are wildly unrealistic yet still insanely fun to use. I think the video in the OP's post speaks for itself. Planes would not make the city seem 'to small' at all. A Cessna 152 (AKA a Dodo!) only goes about 120mph. A Britten-Norman Islander (AKA the Beagle in San Andreas) and a de Havilland Canada DHC-2 Beaver (AKA the seaplane in Vice City & San Andreas) both go about 160mph. Those are all slower than the supercars and the helicopters currently in IV. A bi-plane would be slow enough too but I can't really see a plane like that in a big city like Liberty City. "R* didn't have the time/know-how to make planes work in the game" -If some modder can make a flying airport cart by himself then surely the 1,000 developers behind the most expensive video game of all time can do it. A bi-plane can be used in theory since it's slower speed will give players the ability to fly for more then 20 seconds across the city...lol. I think the perfect plane would be a sea plane, given the amount of added water around LC, and it's a very slow plane as well. Having said that, i just don't grab the obsession to want to fly any plane when there are helicopters available. What the heck is the difference?, it's not like you cannot take a copter to the top of LC's highest spot and fly it like a plane into the ground anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamerzworld Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 If some modder can make a flying airport cart by himself then surely the 1,000 developers behind the most expensive video game of all time can do it. Actually, the code the "modder" is using is in the game, it's just never used. Change a few lines in IV's files to classify a car as a plane and BAM, you have a plane. I recall a friend of mine who has some connections at Rockstar telling me that there was work done on a updated DODO early in the development of GTAIV but for what ever reason it was scrapped. The excuse of "the city isn't big enough" is not plausible because R* boasts that Liberty City is the largest single city they have ever created. False. The only thing that they boast is that LC is the most DETAILED city ever created, which is very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddsock Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 I also remember reading that R* didn't want to add planes because of 911. And GTA3 was released like 2 months after 911, it's not like R* would of took the time to take them out. That would be a waste if time, and made it delayed. You know some asshole would crash a plane into a building then post 9/11 video on youtube. You're wrong (read other posts to find out why), and so what if someone would post some video online? People have done it in San Andreas with the AT-400. Big f*cking deal, it's an internet video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic_Al Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 You're wrong (read other posts to find out why), and so what if someone would post some video online? People have done it in San Andreas with the AT-400. Big f*cking deal, it's an internet video. You know who else puts out Internet videos? This thread is going in circles. Like planes out of Francis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGMOS Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 The question of this topic was "Could IV Support Planes?" Hmm..... Question answered. Obviously this latest trailer doesn't prove we'll be flying them, but Rockstar answered your question. They made an actual plane vehicle, thus proving that if they wanted to, they could make planes in IV. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsta312 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Obviously this latest trailer doesn't prove we'll be flying them, but Rockstar answered your question. They made an actual plane vehicle, thus proving that if they wanted to, they could make planes in IV. /thread Good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarto3131 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 it is a new plane model, those "shamels" parked at the gates are too small and don't have just 1 tail mounted engine. And it sure as hell ain't those 747's that circle around the airport and city forever. But I'm pretty sure that plane model will only be in 1 mission, and you'll just a little shoot out on it, like that one mission from SA, forgot what it's called, and then parachute out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddsock Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 /thread I'm not sure if I want to call that funny, ballsy, or just plain arrogant. I think you know the discussion is whether or not planes could actually physically be in the game, it's about ones the player can actually fly. Magic_Al is right though, I think all that can be said relating to the video I posted and anything else on the subject has been said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDon Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Airplanes + New York = bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddsock Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 Airplanes + New York = bad idea. This is Liberty City. Not New York. Even then, there are plenty of airports in New York City from which all kinds of planes take off every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialAnimal Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I personally wouldn't mind having small airplanes in this game. I for one would not care about landing my airplane at another airport or landing it at all, because I would just do what I did in San Andreas and just abandon them mid-air. It just kind of depends on what Rockstar would do with it, being as they went for realism in this version of GTA. However, solving the damage problems would be fairly easy to overcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brOkeRxBoYxLC Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 i would like planes but there are a few reasons why they wouldnt be good in GTA 4. first off, im sure that EVERYONE is familiar with what happen in new york on 9/11, so that just explains it all. another thing is that where are you going to go? there is one airport, and the map seems almost too small. a dodo would be ok if there was a smaller airport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamerShotgun Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Airplanes + New York = bad idea. This is Liberty City. Not New York. Even then, there are plenty of airports in New York City from which all kinds of planes take off every day. QFT! Liberty City is based off of New York...so why we can not fly planes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanfire Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 What do planes offer that helicopters don't? Helis are easier to manouvre and shoot other objects. And they can fly too. Having played Saints row 2, I noted how useless the planes were at taking down targets - I only plugged 1-2 bullets into target before overshooting them. I don't know why people are dying for the return of planes. You want to view scenery from air? Take helitours. You want to mow down targets via air - use the annihilater or the awesome new Buzzard. Want to skydive? Helis and tall buildings do just fine. Why do you people crave for planes so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macorules94 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) Seriously speaking, If R* give me a plane now, i'm not even going to have fun with it. Neither am i going to use it. Parachutes give me enough content to not use a plane at all. So you'd rather parachute out of a heli, or off a building, lol. Speaking of which Edited October 9, 2009 by macorules94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHarborPants Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Well, even if we have a small plane that looks like a dodo... How many of you will honestly say you will use it the most among all other features? Another reason is: By the time your plane takes off the runway, cops are on to you... When you are in the sky, your wanted level never drops. When you land, cops will come in just a few seconds. If R* Takes off the wanted level on Runways, well, cars can drive freely on the runway and some of you people call it "Unrealistic". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macorules94 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Meh. Everytime I play San Andreas, I fly a plane Everytime I play GTA III, which is hardly ever, I always fly the Dodo. Doing it in GTA IV is like sex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddsock Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 first off, im sure that EVERYONE is familiar with what happen in new york on 9/11, so that just explains it all. No, it really doesn't, and that's an extremely unreasonable point. urbanfire, you make good points, but, well...it's a plane! Planes are fun and challenging, I think more so than helicopters at some points. Helitours wouldn't do it for me, and I don't think they would for anyone else really. I just did them for the achievement and dialogue. Piperka, nice link to your own thread. I didn't see your thread when I posted this one, but I chose to do this one separate regardless because of the video and the difference in questions. Most people were asking or speculating if there was going to be a plane, but I am asking if GTA IV and the RAGE engine can even support fixed-wing aircraft. I like your last post though. I love flying planes too. samuellau93, the wanted level is a good point but I'm sure (or at least I hope) if R* put in a plane, they'd do it in a way that would be a hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchJ90 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 theres good example in SR2 why not to have airplanes in one city with only one airport, u can only fly around the sky and either land at that same old airport or just jump off with parachute... not any use at all... They are fun as hell to use know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macorules94 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) theres good example in SR2 why not to have airplanes in one city with only one airport, u can only fly around the sky and either land at that same old airport or just jump off with parachute... not any use at all... They are fun as hell to use know. Yeah but you can't put up the landing gear in SR2. I feel stupid when flying the Snipes 57, a.k.a Shamal Edited October 9, 2009 by macorules94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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