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Armando & Henrique

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jelly

Temp bans handed out, anyone feel like continuing this OT BS, you know what's coming.

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Moss27

"These guys look like complete idiots!! This game looks like it's gonna be a complete and utter joke sad.gif "

 

As opposed to who? Roman, Brucie, Bernie, Manny?

 

 

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bobgtafan

The part for the ballad of gay tony was kind of boring to be honest.

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blahblah1212

Yeah, I think Mallorie is related to one of them and Liz the other, it's kind of obvious. There's no reason to have two completely characters to have the same last name unless they're related.

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liquidus119

I have to agree some what with MOB on this one. It's starting to look more and more like Saints Row than GTA every new preview that comes out, and that makes me sad.

 

And I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that hates the idea of Frankie Van Who-sit's being introduced over Claude Womb.

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Money Over Bullshit
Temp bans handed out, anyone feel like continuing this OT BS, you know what's coming.

Ooh Temp Bans boys.. get back on your leashes lol.gif

 

Seriously though it would very unusual for these guys to be names Bardas and Torres and not be related to Mallorie and Liz. Armando looks like Andreas... maybe they're all siblings.

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liquidus119

Seems stereotypical to make all the hispanic/latin gangsters siblings...but then again it would be even dumber to just name these two guys after two main characters and act like it's nothing.

 

*sigh*

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OGLuke

Neone else notice that at the end of the trailer, they switch from standing infront of cowboy autos, to infront of the apartment across from dwaynes in northwood?

 

I even went in the place and looked around, and found some interesting stuff. There's graffitti that i've never seen in there before such as "Youre in hell now puta" and this is written on the wall in bold letters going down. Sounds like a threat to me.

 

Only diffrence from dwayne's that you can't go up the stairs, but this maybe where henrique/armando or both of them live, since it's located in Northwood.

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FearTheLiving
Seems stereotypical to make all the hispanic/latin gangsters siblings...but then again it would be even dumber to just name these two guys after two main characters and act like it's nothing.

 

*sigh*

It's not like it's new of Rockstar to be stereotypical, "Badda Bing Badda Boom", "Forgetta Bout it" and most of the characters made are mostly stereotyped.

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Derelict Frog

They still look amazing. For people who think this game is gonna be one big joke - I'd hold your reservations. Just because it includes surreal characters and settings doesn't mean the storyline will be awful (the GTA Vice City storyline in my opinion was amazing and that was 80s madness at its best). I expect this storyline to be superb, as has been the case with GTA IV and GTA TLAD, and of course it will complete the epic crime saga that happens in Liberty City. Afterall, the GTA IV storyline are the epics of Martin Scorsese or Sergio Leone in terms of its setting, its epicness and its story (in my opinion of course) for the my generation.

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blahblah1212
Seems stereotypical to make all the hispanic/latin gangsters siblings...but then again it would be even dumber to just name these two guys after two main characters and act like it's nothing.

 

*sigh*

It's not like it's new of Rockstar to be stereotypical, "Badda Bing Badda Boom", "Forgetta Bout it" and most of the characters made are mostly stereotyped.

Same with Rockstar North's depiction of black gangs in early 90's Los Angeles, though that could be what it was really like. orly.gif

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Money Over Bullshit

 

They still look amazing. For people who think this game is gonna be one big joke - I'd hold your reservations. Just because it includes surreal characters and settings doesn't mean the storyline will be awful (the GTA Vice City storyline in my opinion was amazing and that was 80s madness at its best). I expect this storyline to be superb, as has been the case with GTA IV and GTA TLAD, and of course it will complete the epic crime saga that happens in Liberty City. Afterall, the GTA IV storyline are the epics of Martin Scorsese or Sergio Leone in terms of its setting, its epicness and its story (in my opinion of course) for the my generation.

I guess that was directed at me colgate.gif

 

I really hope it's not just one big joke although from what we've seen so far it looks to be one. I loved Vice City and San Andreas when they came out but that was that Era and we're in a different time now as far as GTA games are concerned. GTA IV was brilliant.. the story was quite serious but every aspect outside it

(and sometimes inside it) was utterly hilarious, the same goes for The Lost and Damned. From what I've seen of Gay Tony so far is litterally like a circus... Clowns, Parachutes, Dancing, Goats (haha) and a big pile of elephant sh*t.

 

There's a difference between being humourous and being downright silly and I think Rockstar are going for the latter just to please a certain niche of the GTA Community. Admittedly I don't really know much at this stage and I'm not saying it doesn't look good (because it does) but Hopefully the game has a lot more redeeming factors than what we've already seen.

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Derelict Frog
They still look amazing. For people who think this game is gonna be one big joke - I'd hold your reservations. Just because it includes surreal characters and settings doesn't mean the storyline will be awful (the GTA Vice City storyline in my opinion was amazing and that was 80s madness at its best). I expect this storyline to be superb, as has been the case with GTA IV and GTA TLAD, and of course it will complete the epic crime saga that happens in Liberty City. Afterall, the GTA IV storyline are the epics of Martin Scorsese or Sergio Leone in terms of its setting, its epicness and its story (in my opinion of course) for the my generation.

I guess that was directed at me colgate.gif

 

I really hope it's not just one big joke although from what we've seen so far it looks to be one. I loved Vice City and San Andreas when they came out but that was that Era and we're in a different time now as far as GTA games are concerned. GTA IV was brilliant.. the story was quite serious but every aspect outside it

(and sometimes inside it) was utterly hilarious, the same goes for The Lost and Damned. From what I've seen of Gay Tony so far is litterally like a circus... Clowns, Parachutes, Dancing, Goats (haha) and a big pile of elephant sh*t.

 

There's a difference between being humourous and being downright silly and I think Rockstar are going for the latter just to please a certain niche of the GTA Community. Admittedly I don't really know much at this stage and I'm not saying it doesn't look good (because it does) but Hopefully the game has a lot more redeeming factors than what we've already seen.

But I think a bit of silly will do the GTA IV's Liberty City really well. We've had a Goodfellas and our Once Upon a Time in America in the city, now I think we deserve our Analyze This. I doubt it's all going to be one big joke. It is definitely going to be sillier, but would that be a bad thing in this particular case? All it means is that the story is going to be more Michael Bay than Michelangelo. I say "so what?". Not only does it shut up the SA fanboys but also adds a sense of over-the-top, epic action that I believe GTA IV lacked in some parts. Dancing mini-games etc are simply small gimics that just add to the atmosphere of the game, the theme of which afterall is primarily the ultra-hedonistic lifestyle of the rich (esp. in Liberty City) and clubbing scene. It's still going to have a better story than Saint's Row. That's a given. wink.gif

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Money Over Bullshit

In summary I just think they're sleeping on alot of things that real GTA Fans would like to see such as continuity and an interlinking story featuring some of the unseen characters from GTA IV etc. In favor of over the top action and madness that dissengages from the stories of the other two games. If this game were about Gangsters doin gangster sh*t I feel it would be more compelling and Real (in a surreal video game sense) than a game based around what is essentially kids stuff that people think is "Cool" and "Awesome" when they're ten. Like a guy that's in debt gets his latino servant to go on one of Bill and Ted's excellent adventures and have the most fun ever in the hopes of getting them out of debt...

[insert every emoticon that vaguely conveys disbelief here]

 

That's all I'm gonna say on it though because not only do I feel I'm repeating myself but I'll probably

(with any luck) eat my words come the end of the month.

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OGLuke

I was snooping around northwood, and found the area with this picture

 

http://rockstarbase.com/imgs/armando/imagepages/image31.html

 

It's not but one block away from where luis and the boys meetup, and also not that far from where luis mom lives.

 

The place in the picture, i was again snooping around and saw the building in the picture could very well be luis first safehouse.

 

Reasons:

 

Not that far off from mommy and where his ND3 homies live.

In northwood

Has a car garage to park cars and a Bball court in the back, nice place to do some drug dealings.

Luis might also be able to go underground, as the door in the picture looks like it might lead luis to the sewers or to a hideout for ND3 sorta.

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gamefarter
At 15 seconds, where the guy in the red and black jacket is taking cover behind a cargo container, it looks like there's a sail boat behind him in the water, with it's sails down.  Was this in GTA IV? I'm no expert, but I thought it might be new.  Have a look and let us know. 

Good find OP.

Can someone adress this, or perhaps put up screen cap of it. I would, but I'm a tech tool.

Thanks. icon14.gif

Thanks for all the help you guys, I really appreciate it. sarcasm.gif

 

Where's Foddzy when you need him?

 

Can no one help me out here? dontgetit.gif

 

Precookie: cookie.gif

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florisinfernus

 

Ok then TLAD had nothing... I was just trying to justify the money I paid 4 it.

TLAD had a lot. It had cool bikes, pretty cool weapons(maybe not compared to BOGT..), great missions, realy cool interiors(Clubhouses and Brian´s house). The whole biker atmosphere was great. TLAD was awesome, but not because of the story.

I didn't mean that literally man it just seems like that's the way a lot of people think. I loved TLAD and I have a feeling that I won't like TBOGT half as much because it's turning into a circus. TLAD delivered on almost every pre conceived idea I had but it seems like with TBOGT they just decided to make it as silly as they could meanwhile throwing out the "hood" element that we were all looking forward to. It's like they just threw away the script and ignored all the pieces that were put in place just to please the casual gamer who could care less about the finer details and just want to play something "Fun"

It's a circus because of what? Because of the new toys we're getting? I'm not getting you. GTA is all about doing stuff you can't do in real life, that does exist in real life. I don't see anything about TBOGT that is too silly. All these things exist in real life.

 

How can you know they threw away the script? You don't even know the story yet! Wasn't the hood element allready implemented when they created Luis and made the impossible trinity achievement. I really don't get your point.

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FearTheLiving
At 15 seconds, where the guy in the red and black jacket is taking cover behind a cargo container, it looks like there's a sail boat behind him in the water, with it's sails down.  Was this in GTA IV? I'm no expert, but I thought it might be new.  Have a look and let us know. 

Good find OP.

Can someone adress this, or perhaps put up screen cap of it. I would, but I'm a tech tool.

Thanks. icon14.gif

Thanks for all the help you guys, I really appreciate it. sarcasm.gif

 

Where's Foddzy when you need him?

 

Can no one help me out here? dontgetit.gif

 

Precookie: cookie.gif

Sorry about that must have missed that, if you look at Rockstars BoGT page it looks as if your talking about the Smuggler boat. If that's the boat your talking about than it is new.

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CookPassBabtridge

@ Money Over BS, I dont agree, but I do see your point. Obviously you are someone that takes more notice of the story and characters than I would, and I can see that TBOGT isnt really being marketed from that viewpoint.

 

As an older player though, ive found this whole 'serious story' attempt as actually more immature than a lot of other GTAs. I mean that in the sense of, Ive grown out of being impressed by 'angry shouty sweary' characters running around shooting and shouting 'f*ck' a lot.

 

To me that's no more sophisticated than anything from SA for example. Having generic missions after a load of dialogue just impacted it more for me, and by the time TLAD arrived I was pretty sick of the pseudo dramatics. I just want a chunk of GTA that will be replayable, (I dont mean restarting the missions) and a bit of escapism.

 

 

"a game based around what is essentially kids stuff that people think is "Cool" and "Awesome" when they're ten." < Thats how I felt about IV's attempts at drama. At least if the characters are dumb as hell, things cant get too anally retentive.

 

 

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Insom

One of them sounds like Cheech Marin

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nikoklebitz

do you think the old hospital is the NDD hideout ?

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shinsta312

 

From the looks of it, ND3 wears red, grey and possibly blue?

 

If you had noticed by now, all of the street gangs in GTA IV (with the exception of the Spanish Lords) don't have color-based identifiers anymore.

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Big_Mitch_Baker

 

all of the street gangs in GTA IV (with the exception of the Spanish Lords) don't have color-based identifiers anymore.

Yeah and it sucks...It's more realistic this way, but I liked knowing when I was picking a fight with a half dozen guys and who they represented.

 

And I don't know why everybody keeps raggin' on Armando & Henrique, yeah they are rather juvenile characters but what do you expect? They are a couple young of uneducated hoods that are likely going to be the comic relief of the ND3 side of the story (mind you a lot of the characters are lookin' quite comical rather than believable at this point, but it's a game so deal with it)

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liquidus119

I have nothing against Armando and Henrique. They seem silly, but not too silly.

 

I have a problem with Frickie Van Hardenburg. I hope to god he is only featured in the mission where you blow up the yacht and possibly one other mission, and nothing else. If he has a big part in the game I will be so angry.

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shinsta312

 

I have nothing against Armando and Henrique.  They seem silly, but not too silly.

 

I have a problem with Frickie Van Hardenburg.  I hope to god he is only featured in the mission where you blow up the yacht and possibly one other mission, and nothing else.  If he has a big part in the game I will be so angry.

I'm curious about that. Why would you be angry about FVH possibly playing a big role in the game?

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SovietWarrior42

FVH sounds like a cool character, he's like Wome mixed with Petrovic.

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Slomojoe
FVH sounds like a cool character, he's like Wome mixed with Petrovic.

once again, people are acting like they are best friends with characters we have never even seen before. Wome, the Gomezes, Vallerio. It's the same thing with the Tampa

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SovietWarrior42

Just saying from what we know about the characters, he's like them.

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