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Pico

What you'll want to do is go to verizonwireless.com. There you can log into your account. From there you can add on the 3G Mobile Hotspot feature for $20 for 2GB of data. Lol, jk jk. tounge.gif

And really, the Droid A855 doesn't even support 3G Mobile Hotspot, so doing it via one of those methods is your only option.

 

Can't give you any suggestions on what you need to do to get it to work. Not because I work for VZW, but mainly because I wouldn't even know where to start. The only time I used a rooted wifi/tether app was on my G1 and it worked as soon as I opened the app, no issues at all.

 

Speaking of my G1, I'm installing the latest 2.2 ROM on it. Figured I'd f*ck around with it and see how stable 2.2 is on it, seeing as how it's been out for something like 6 months and Cyanogen has his version at 6.10. That, and the 1.6 Super D ROM I had installed wouldn't allow me to download anything in the market or allow the phone to mount to a computer properly. The phone just booted up, going to let it load up and stuff for a bit, then f*ck around with it.

 

On another note, I'm officially the coolest son ever. I just bought my parents two shiny new Droid 2s. That's right, my 50 year old parents are rocking better Android phones than half of you lol.gif

They did have Backflips on AT&T, but I'm saving them like $100/month switching them to my plan. So not only do they get much better coverage and faster 3G, they also save money and have a much, much better phone.

I think I talked my mom into giving me one of their old Backflips. One of my brothers is replacing is iPhone 3G with one of the Backflips, so the other is just going to no use. Figured I could have fun screwing around with it... I wonder how the dev community is on that phone. With it's specs, I'm sure it'll run 2.2 decently.

 

edit: Holy sh*t, must say I'm impressed with CyanogenMods 6.10 port of 2.2 to the G1! It's faster than the 1.6 Super D ROM I had installed and has the greatness of 2.2, of course. It'll definitely make screwing around with it a lot more enjoyable.

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Tommy-Vercetti19

Speaking of 2.2, it has just been released in Europe for HTC Legend users like myself. I am loving it, the messaging and Voice Recognition is great! Everything so much faster.

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Tornado Rex
Hey guys annoying problem here:

 

I rooted my Moto Droid using the guide here. Everything went perfectly and I followed it to the letter.

 

The phone is working fine but I can't get Wi-Fi tether to work on either AndroidTether or Barnacle Wifi Tether.

 

I tried Barnacle first. The starts up fine, no errors and I click start. The log says starting, data network is ready, .ini file prepared, wifi driver loaded, wpa_supplicant started, wpa_supplicant connect, running... (in that order). It never gives me any errors and from what I can tell it's running perfectly. The problem is that no matter how many times I click "associate" the network it broadcasts (I named it Tim), it never shows up on any other device.

 

So it very well might be running correctly. But if the SSID doesn't show up, it's impossible to connect. I tried adding the network manually in Windows but it never connects because it never shows up on the list.

 

 

 

AndroidTether came second.

 

I run the app, click the green "start tethering button", then it says I used .4kB down and 0 up. After this, "Tim" shows up on my available networks and I can double-click to connect. When Windows connects to it, I get an exclamation point over the five bars. When I click on the bars, it says "no internet connection". If I right-click on them and choose "troubleshoot problems" it says "Windows could not automatically detect this network's proxy settings.

 

When I go to google or anywhere else with the laptop, it tells me it timed out connecting to the server. It does connect every time without problem, but once I connect I never get internet. On the Droid itself, the internet comes up fine and I can surf without problems.

 

 

 

Did I miss a step or something? Everyone else's experience seems to be that it just works and there aren't many toubleshooting tips.

 

Other info:

Phone: Motorola Droid running Android 2.2

Build number: FRG22D

Kernel version 2.6.32.9-g874c292 [email protected] #1

Baseband Version C_01.43.01P

 

Laptop: Windows 7, Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200 AGN wireless card (works perfectly on other networks).

 

I can't think of anything else that would be relevant.

 

Thanks guys.

Woo hoo a question I can answer! smile.gif

 

I only know this because I've been messing with the thing constantly since my girlfriend got a a wifi-only iPad.

 

On my phone the only tether app I could get to work was "Wireless Tether for Root Users". In order to use it though you need a kernel that will support the Froyo WIFI tether feature. The one I use is ChevyNo1's. I'm sure there's others that will work too, but that's the one I've been able to get to work. http://www.droidforums.net/forum/chevyno1/...ew-kernels.html

 

By the way welcome to the wonderful world of a rooted Droid. Which ROM are you using?

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Emotion98.3
After many failed attempts at rooting, overclocking, installations and different kernels, I've finally managed to run win 95 on my Wildfire.

It barely works, but It's awesome smile.gif

PICCSSS biggrin.gif, Freaking Aceee

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Pico

So the Droid X has the 2.2.1 update out... nothing big, pretty much just adding some bloatware and aiding in stability and optimization to Froyo.

But I rooted my phone and installed a custom ROM a while back, pretty much just a theme. Can't get the f*cking update to work. I even wiped my phone and installed the backup I had made just after I rooted and installed the custom bootloader. I think it has something to do with the boot logo change I made because when I changed it I received a different error upon trying to install the update manually.

 

I should have just left the phone as it was... although I do have to say the deodexed ROM I had installed with a mild (1.2Ghz) overclock at low voltage together made the phone quicker, more responsive, and prolonged the battery life. I'm about to just set it up back how I had it again, seeing as how I can't locate any results on google for a similar error message. f*cking a.... I can't wait for a new phone, lol.

 

One thing too, you have no idea how many calls a day I get where people ask when we're getting 4G phones, and when we're getting the iPhone. In fact, some people tell me when we're getting either of them, which is news to me seeing as how there's no official statement. I hate it when they tell me a rep at a store told them we ARE getting the iPhone early next year. They're just feeding into the totally unconfirmed rumors. And that's what they are, rumors, no matter how much sense it would make with all the evidence out there.

Aside from that, I'm going to hate people calling in to upgrade to the iPhone (assuming VZW gets it) so much. I'm never going to offer overnight shipping for free, lol. They'll have to take the standard two day. damn it.

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Tornado Rex
So the Droid X has the 2.2.1 update out... nothing big, pretty much just adding some bloatware and aiding in stability and optimization to Froyo.

But I rooted my phone and installed a custom ROM a while back, pretty much just a theme. Can't get the f*cking update to work. I even wiped my phone and installed the backup I had made just after I rooted and installed the custom bootloader. I think it has something to do with the boot logo change I made because when I changed it I received a different error upon trying to install the update manually.

Most ROMs disable the ability to update as it will un-root your phone. If you want to do the official update you have to factory reset the phone and then let it update. I see no point though, chances are the ROM you're using used a source pull which is probably newer than even the 2.2.1 update. I believe for the D1 CM had it at 2.2.1 well before even Google released it as finished.

 

But yeah, unless you un-root your phone by doing a full factory reset you won't be able to do any "official" updates.

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Ronnyboy

So I started messing with the Dev Kit, and I have to say this is a lot easier then I thought when I take the time to learn it. I imagine the iPhone is different in it's SDK, but I love the freedom of development for the Android Market.

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Emotion98.3
So I started messing with the Dev Kit, and I have to say this is a lot easier then I thought when I take the time to learn it. I imagine the iPhone is different in it's SDK, but I love the freedom of development for the Android Market.

So how you enjoying your intercept? Was a neat little phone when i played around with it (I fancy a physical keyboard haha). Did Froyo bring Samsung's TouchWiz?

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Ronnyboy
So I started messing with the Dev Kit, and I have to say this is a lot easier then I thought when I take the time to learn it. I imagine the iPhone is different in it's SDK, but I love the freedom of development for the Android Market.

So how you enjoying your intercept? Was a neat little phone when i played around with it (I fancy a physical keyboard haha). Did Froyo bring Samsung's TouchWiz?

I haven't gotten it yet, sadly. I've just been messing with the Emulator and keep staring at my sig, waiting for when I can buy it.

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Pico
So the Droid X has the 2.2.1 update out... nothing big, pretty much just adding some bloatware and aiding in stability and optimization to Froyo.

But I rooted my phone and installed a custom ROM a while back, pretty much just a theme. Can't get the f*cking update to work. I even wiped my phone and installed the backup I had made just after I rooted and installed the custom bootloader. I think it has something to do with the boot logo change I made because when I changed it I received a different error upon trying to install the update manually.

Most ROMs disable the ability to update as it will un-root your phone. If you want to do the official update you have to factory reset the phone and then let it update. I see no point though, chances are the ROM you're using used a source pull which is probably newer than even the 2.2.1 update. I believe for the D1 CM had it at 2.2.1 well before even Google released it as finished.

 

But yeah, unless you un-root your phone by doing a full factory reset you won't be able to do any "official" updates.

Nope, from what I've read if you have stock 2.2 version 2.3.315 the 2.2.1 version 2.3.340 installs just fine even if it's rooted, you just lose root, which you can easily get again with z4root. The restore point on my phone was stock 2.2 3.2.315, so it should update alright.

Pretty sure it's the boot logo that's causing the install to fail since changing it brought up a different error.

 

Facebook updated their app to 1.5 including push notifications and full chat. The chat works perfectly... notifications... well I received Invite and Inbox notifications quickly from what I could tell, however it still seems like the quickest refresh rate is 30 minutes through the settings. From my understanding push notifications would mean they're pushed to the phone as soon as they are created... until I receive wall post/reply notifications in realtime, the app will still be lacking.

But over all it's very enjoyable to use. A great update from Facebook for sure, the app is now usable.

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beavis

So ever since I've been using Swype, I find anything else unusable. Anyone like this?

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Pico

I don't really like Swype. For some reason while sliding one finger to select every letter of a word, especially longer words, I forget which letter comes next and where it would be on the keyboard tounge.gif

I think it actually slows me down when I'm typing because I need to plan out my swype pattern instead of mechanically tapping away at the keys.

 

I would use it as a standard keyboard if it functioned properly as a regular keyboard as well. But for now, the standard Droid X multitouch keyboard will do.

 

THIS is what I'm waiting for. Google bought them out. No word on this yet, not even for Gingerbread. I can guess only three possible reasons for the purchase:

- Kill the keyboard, for some reason they may not want people using it. Least likely, I would say.

- Integrate it lightly in the standard Android keyboard. Gingerbread has a new one... no reports of higher accuracy from what I can tell though, so I doubt they just spliced it in.

- Use it in later versions of Android and/or release it on the market as an optional keyboard

 

Anyway, the video:

 

 

On thing, as for being resizable, it'd be perfect for tablets... so... Honeycomb, maybe?

Google is also big on having support for other languages. They may be adjusting it to have a full enough dictionary for enough languages and make sure it's able to recognize errors in those languages.

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d00d

Incase anyone is interested, Froyo just got released for the Dell Streak (you know, that gargantuan phone). I've had 2.1 on there for a while and messed around with a 2.2 build but it'll be nice to see how stable the final release is and Dell's new Stage UI set of widgets.

 

All I can say is its been a long time coming! I'm doing an OTA update right now, I'll let you know how it is after I've played around with it.

 

Here, have some love.

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jelly

My Defy finally arrived!

 

So, phone's pretty awesome. Blur sucks. Best to disable as much as possible and not use it.

 

The Dolphin HD browser is way better than the stock one. icon14.gif

 

Anything more.. well not much yet. Any good app suggestions besides the obvious?

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CannonRage

Since keyboards have come up again on this page, I have to mention SwiftKey again. Especially since the most recent update has really improved the aesthetic. I really can't imagine not using it now.

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Pico

Oh, I tried out Swiftkey... didn't like it at all. The awesome thing about Android is the availability of keyboards. It allows users to find one that works for them best.

 

The stock 2.2 Droid X keyboard is the best in terms of layout of general keys... however punctuation and auto correct sucks. For example it never auto corrects "I'd" it always just gives "id" and iirc it doesn't give the suggestion for I'd either, so I need to go into special characters to grab the apostrophe. I liked better keyboard in terms of punctuation key layout and auto-correction, however the space key is WAY too thin, I'd always tap b or v mad.gif

If I could glue my G1's keyboard to my Droid X I would in a heartbeat, lol.

 

Word from HTC is they won't have an LTE phone until the second half of 2011. The Merge is a 3.7 or 3.8" slider that is shown to be running on LTE... and from what early specs are saying something like a 1.3Ghz processor and in videos it's seen running 2.3. Those specs, assuming the 1.3Ghz processor is single core, all line up to a end of 2010, very early 2011 superphone. Mid next year all the top superphones will be running 1Ghz+ dual cores, and early reports are suggesting mid range phones will have ~500Mhz dual cores which will likely perform better than a single core at 1.5Ghz.

So either HTC stated themselves incorrectly, or they're releasing a phone that seems to be finished with today's high end standard 6 months too late.

The point of bringing up the Merge is that it's the next slider rumored to be coming to VZW. But really... 3.8"? Sprint has the damn Epic 4G with it's 4 inches of glory. I want a damn Droid X2 with a slide out keyboard!

 

@Jelly, congrats on finally getting the phone! Can't suggest any apps... I've got over 100 downloaded on my phone, lol. But what I usually tell people when they ask that is it's totally up to their needs. I'm a techno nerd so a lot of mine are utilities and tools.

Now that 2.2 (and I'm assuming newer versions) keeps track of you apps and redownloads your apps, it'd be cool if you could access your app list via your Gmail account.

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CannonRage

4+ inches might be perfect for you but for some people. (Myself included) it is just too big. I could have got a desire hd, but just got the normal desire, because 3.7 is as big as I am willing to go. Different strokes for different folks.

 

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Pico

I agree, not everyone wants a large screen and 3.7 or so inches seems to be the sweet spot for most people. Or at least the upper end of screen size people want so the phone doesn't become too large. Like d00d for example, I couldn't work with the Streak he has. My entire phone fits in just the screen area on that!

However, I've found the Droid X to fit in my hands and pockets very well, and can handle one being twice as thick if it were so to fit a full keyboard on it.

 

At my job I speak to customers looking to upgrade all the time and they go with the Incredible over the X knowing the X is better in everyway (not significantly, but a good amount), just because they don't want a phone so larger over all.

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Tornado Rex
Oh, I tried out Swiftkey... didn't like it at all. The awesome thing about Android is the availability of keyboards. It allows users to find one that works for them best.

I'm not sure if it's been ported yet the X yet, but try the Gingerbread keyboard if it has. It's amazing. Think Froyo keyboard mixed with Swiftkey prediction.

 

 

Now that 2.2 (and I'm assuming newer versions) keeps track of you apps and redownloads your apps, it'd be cool if you could access your app list via your Gmail account.

I wanna say I heard a rumor that you will be able to once they get the whole web-based market rolling. Who knows when that will be though.

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Emotion98.3

So I've been reading about the EVO 4G

 

So I heard when I get 4G in my area and I go to turn it on, I'm going to have massive lag? I really really hope not. That would mean I've been paying Sprint 10 dollars a month hoping to get faster speeds than 3G for nothing. That's the whole premise on why I bought the EVO was to get rid of the Hero's Lag.

 

The 1Ghz Snapdragon should be fine with 4G?

 

Ehhh... >_< Not liking the sound of this..

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jelly
I agree, not everyone wants a large screen and 3.7 or so inches seems to be the sweet spot for most people. Or at least the upper end of screen size people want so the phone doesn't become too large. Like d00d for example, I couldn't work with the Streak he has. My entire phone fits in just the screen area on that!

However, I've found the Droid X to fit in my hands and pockets very well, and can handle one being twice as thick if it were so to fit a full keyboard on it.

 

At my job I speak to customers looking to upgrade all the time and they go with the Incredible over the X knowing the X is better in everyway (not significantly, but a good amount), just because they don't want a phone so larger over all.

The Defy is 3.7" and it's good enough, but I wouldn't mind a larger 4.3" device at all. The Defy barely has any bezel though, so I guess that helps.. It's smaller than the HTC Hero, I always thought of that as a small Android phone for some odd reason. tounge.gif

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Pico

I did notice in pics of the Defy that the bezel was tight against the screen. Very cool, no need for extra bulk.

 

@Emotion, I'm confused. Do you mean internet lag or general phone lag?

Are you saying that you've heard the processor can be a bottleneck for 4G? This will only occur when downloading things, and it will most likely be due to the write times of the storage device in the phone, and the RAM speeds, not the processor. The processor will come into play maybe when downloading HD videos or something, and the processor can't keep up with the streaming video.

 

No phone out right now is capable of taking advantage of full 4G speeds. For example, I just ran a speed test on my Droid X connected to the same Wifi my computer is. I got roughly 6Mbps on the phone and 12Mbps on my computer. A big factor is the Wifi receiver in the phone, but also the processor. The thing is, it won't really cause lag like you put it. It will just limit the speed your phone receives on the 4G connection. I would be confused if it caused the phone to lag in general.

 

But don't worry, Sprint's 4G is sh*t so you won't have to worry about any of that tounge2.gif

 

 

@Tornado, I put it on. I like it, however it's too small. And I'm not referring to the squished issue that people were having with their Moto Droid line of phones, I had that issue but not anymore. And it's still too small. I don't think it's optimized for the Droid X's resolution and aspect ratio. I couldn't imagine it scaled down on a Droid 2, it'd be unusable. However I did LOVE the autocorrection. I could go super lazy on typing and it'd get it very well. However, I had the same issue with hitting the damn b or v key when trying to tap the spacebar... so I'll have to wait on it.

 

Aside from all of that, I reflashed the stock software on my phone. Lost EVERYTHING, except for contacts and sh*t on my SD card of course. Probably isn't bad though, I had a sh*t load of apps I probably won't miss now, lol. But with the reflash, I got the newest version, 2.2.1. Nothing big, although I guess it seems more stable. Rooted via z4root immediately (awesome app!), OC'd back to 1.2Ghz at low voltage, ads blocked.

 

It's funny how specific I have things set up on my phone. I keep my widgets and icons set in a specific way, display settings, sound settings, notifications, etc etc etc... I find my self systematically adjusting all my settings when anything seems out of place.

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Tornado Rex
@Tornado, I put it on. I like it, however it's too small. And I'm not referring to the squished issue that people were having with their Moto Droid line of phones, I had that issue but not anymore. And it's still too small. I don't think it's optimized for the Droid X's resolution and aspect ratio. I couldn't imagine it scaled down on a Droid 2, it'd be unusable. However I did LOVE the autocorrection. I could go super lazy on typing and it'd get it very well. However, I had the same issue with hitting the damn b or v key when trying to tap the spacebar... so I'll have to wait on it.

Odd it looks fine on my D1. Though I too constantly hit v or b instead of space. Not so much with SwiftKey though.

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Pico

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As you can see, there's quite a bit of a difference between the multitouch keyboard on the new Droid phones and the Gingerbread keyboard.

 

Oh, and don't ask me why the Wifi icon is brownish colored... it's blue on my actual phone. I thought I'd gone color blind for a second, lol.

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jelly

 

 

Thankfully for my wallet this will probably be a Verizon exclusive, or at least never, ever exported.

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Tornado Rex

@Pico: Oh I see what you're saying now. I misunderstood. Yeah it is small in that sense. Idk I prefer the more squared look to the buttons though tounge.gif

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CharmingCharlie

I feel almost too embarrassed to post in here, see all these nice looking phones costing the GDP of a small country. I bought the LG GT540 for £100 from carphone warehouse :-

 

user posted image

 

To be fair it isn't actually that bad, I bought it a couple of months ago and am actually surprised at how good it is. When I first bought it the phone was still using Android 1.6 which was fine for me I mean come on here the phone was only 100 notes. However LG have surprised me by releasing an upgrade to 2.1 which my phone is now sporting and means I can play Angry Bird now tounge2.gif .

 

Obviously it doesn't have the bells and whistles of the more expensive models. it is a resistive touch screen and not that fancy smancy capacitive one. So there is no multi touch but oddly enough I kinda prefer the capacitive screen to the resistive one. My bro has a resistive screen phone and I f*cking hate it. But then I am used to slumming it, I used an LG Cookie 500 for nearly a year.

 

All in all I quite like having an android phone and it isn't too expensive on pay as you go either. I am with O2 and you can get 200mbs of usage for just £7.50 a month which isn't too bad because the GT540 also has wireless LAN so I can just use my home broadband when I am in range.

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Pico
Obviously it doesn't have the bells and whistles of the more expensive models. it is a resistive touch screen and not that fancy smancy capacitive one. So there is no multi touch but oddly enough I kinda prefer the capacitive screen to the resistive one. My bro has a resistive screen phone and I f*cking hate it. But then I am used to slumming it, I used an LG Cookie 500 for nearly a year.

You lost me there. It's resistive and you wish you had a capacitive.... right?

Anyway, an Android phone is still an Android phone! Even though the specs may not be amazing, you've still got the ability to do way more sh*t than most people can on their phones!

 

@Tornado, for sure. I definitely like the look of the keyboard much more. But my fat thumbs hate the tiny buttons and thin spacebar.

 

@jelly, oh yeah! If it's the amazing tablet that Andy guy from Google was showing off, which I'm sure it is, it's going to be amazing. Leaked pics are showing it with a Verizon logo as well, so most likely coming to us, at least first. And almost definitely running 4G LTE. I wonder what kind of data packages we'll have for it, and if it'll be offered at a 2 year contract price unlike the Galaxy Tab and iPad.

I liked the epic-ness of the video, and the mockery of the iPad and even the Tab. Honeycomb should be a big leap for Android tablets. However... the Motorola tablet won't have any physical button controls such as home, back, menu, or search. I could give a sh*t less about the search button, but seriously, NO physical navigation buttons? Weak. I played with the Archos 7" Android tablet that had on screen navigation controls and they just felt unnatural. Didn't like them one bit.

 

But really, I wouldn't get one unless I had a lot of money to waste. I'd rather get a full out tablet laptop. Full Windows 7 capabilities would kick Android's ass in a scenario like that assuming hardware components were quick enough. And the way these are being priced, at $600 and up, it's really hard to change my mind.

 

Also, the VZW Twitter page stated something along the lines of Android and LTE being announced at CES in January. No word on if it's a phone or a tablet, but it's at least one of them. Coinciding with this Motorola video, it's most likely they're tablet. But I'd also be surprised if no LTE phones were announced.

 

 

 

 

To go into an even LONGER post, this part is pretty boring so stop reading, lol.

My mom dropped her brand new Droid 2 in the toilet. Now I need to spend $89 on the deductible for insurance... so... f*ck. It's less than 2 weeks old.

It turns on but goes straight to the bootloader. Until I can file the claim I'd like to get it working, just spent 3 hours on Skype with her, and PhoneMyPc on my Droid X trying to install everything and re-flash the SBF file (basically the whole OS in one file) with no success. I can't figure out how to install the f*cking Droid 2 drivers from Motorola because they're goddamned .inf files inside a zip file. How the f*ck are you supposed to install them?!?!

Pretty sure once that's done RSD Lite will recognize the phone (currently saying No ESN/MEID and the model says something like "Flash device"), then it will flash it successfully instead of failing to switch to the BP mode or whatever it needs to do to finish it.

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CharmingCharlie

 

You lost me there. It's resistive and you wish you had a capacitive.... right?

 

Anyway, an Android phone is still an Android phone! Even though the specs may not be amazing, you've still got the ability to do way more sh*t than most people can on their phones!

 

Nah I aint really that fussed, like I said I have used a capacitive touch screen phone and I didn't really think much to it. I certainly couldn't see why capacitive phones are extortionately more expensive than resistive phones. I mean sure capacitive gives you the multi touch functionality and can be a bit more sensitive but I have been using resistive for nearly 2 years now and to be honest they get too much of a bad rap.

 

I was just pointing out that the phone obviously doesn't feature the high end stuff you normally see on expensive phones and on my travels I kinda see a "ewww you have a resistive screen ewww" culture. However like you say it is a fully featured android phone and to be honest I am actually amazed you can do what you can do with the phone.

 

I was incredibly dubious about "mobile internet" I dabbled with it on an old Samsung E900 (bog standard phone) and never thougnt much to this mobile net thingie. But the android phone is fantastic to browse the net on. Ok it is never going to replace a quad core with a 24" widescreen TV but even as wll endowed as I am, there is no way I will get a 24" monitor into my trouser pocket wink.gif . I was even pleasantly surprised that you can have several apps running simultaneously.

 

About the only thing that does piss me off about Android is the lack of support for flash, many websites use flash and it really does reduce it's web abilities..

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Tommy-Vercetti19

 

About the only thing that does piss me off about Android is the lack of support for flash, many websites use flash and it really does reduce it's web abilities..

Charlie, the Froyo 2.2 update included full flash! I can view flash sites in full. (e.g Deadmau5.com music player. I have yet to try flash games though.

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