Since they could add new Heli's...

[AZAZEL]

Are you suggesting that when someone jumps out of a helicopter, that they IMMEDIATELY pull the cord and let the parachute chute out? Are you even familiar with the concept of skyDIVING?

I believe he is suggesting that if you are flying the helicopter, and bail out, you are likely to be shishkebab'ed by the rotorblades, as the helicopter falls faster than the player, with or without parachute.

[floppay]

Are you suggesting that when someone jumps out of a helicopter, that they IMMEDIATELY pull the cord and let the parachute chute out? Are you even familiar with the concept of skyDIVING?

I believe he is suggesting that if you are flying the helicopter, and bail out, you are likely to be shishkebab'ed by the rotorblades, as the helicopter falls faster than the player, with or without parachute.

I have jumped out of helicopters in this game more times that I have blinked in my lifetime, and I have never ONCE been killed by the blades. You ESPECIALLY won't die if you are flying in any direction even a little bit.

[macorules94]

No need to go skitz.

 

I was just saying.

 

Sometimes when I jump out of a heli in GTA IV, it falls on me and I die. Sometimes from the blades, sometimes from the body

 

And, that would get very annoying having to pay 10% of your money everytime you die.

[CharmingCharlie]

Well since floppay can't keep his opinion to HIMSELF about how he feels about staff on this board he is taking a three day vacation thanks to me. I am sick of people attacking others on here just because they express THEIR own view and opinion.

 

It is common that when you mention parachutes 99.9% of people will think "oh jumping out of a plane". I have very rarely heard of or even seen anyone jumping out of a helicopter to parachute. If you look at most parachute clubs they use a ............ oh a plane.

 

I personally think it is rather disappointing of Rockstar to do all this work on parachutes and not include a simple small light aircraft we can use to parachute from. Instead we get another 3 bloody helicopters with which to parachute from which just seems rather lame to me.

[Yappolf]

I want planes in this game. Planes are good, innocent fun. They act like we're going to do controversial things with them. Crashing into buildings? That's so 2001.

 

I think we can be more creative than middle-easterns lol. But crashing into buildings is awesome tho.

[John The Grudge]

I'm not too bothered about flyable planes but the Dodo was a blast. I'd love it if it returned. They could have a leaderboard for who gets the furthest. I remember in GTAIII that if you were good enough you could fly to the scene of the intro.

[macorules94]

http://www.elikos.com/helicopter/helicopter-parachuting.html

 

Doesn't seem unnatural to parachute from a heli to those folks. Charlie you yourself say helicopters were not used much, but I don't see how many missions you can throw at a Dodo plane either. I have not played Vice in while but not too many missions stand out as memorable moments. My memory might be just a little f*cked up though.

At least the helicopter there will still be hovering when you jump out

[DrAnomalous]

I'm pretty sure with Luis riding passenger and someone else piloting, like we have seen in the screen shots, it's safe to say the heli will continue to hover or fly away. If Luis is piloting what to I care what the heli does. Any time your pilot heads for an exit with a parachute you can't expect good news for the whirlybird or those inside.

[Slomojoe]

 

Well since floppay can't keep his opinion to HIMSELF about how he feels about staff on this board he is taking a three day vacation thanks to me.  I am sick of people attacking others on here just because they express THEIR own view and opinion.

 

It is common that when you mention parachutes 99.9% of people will think "oh jumping out of a plane".  I have very rarely heard of or even seen anyone jumping out of a helicopter to parachute.  If you look at most parachute clubs they use a ............ oh a plane.

 

I personally think it is rather disappointing of Rockstar to do all this work on parachutes and not include a simple small light aircraft we can use to parachute from.  Instead we get another 3 bloody helicopters with which to parachute from which just seems rather lame to me.

Freedom of speech at work

 

And about jumping out of helis with chutes, if the blade is going, then it won't just fall like a rock. The blades auto rotate even if the engine isn't on because of the air against the blades. This specifically prevents helis from just falling rapidly. They slowly lower to the ground no matter what. It might not be as slow as when the blade is engaged, but it still spins. And if someone is driving the heli, then its just like jumping out of a plane

Edited September 25, 2009 by Slomojoe

[supermortalhuman]

It really is way too small to fly planes. The helicopters move across the map in a flash, and plus, they need time to actually make the planes IV/HD quality.

 

We are seeing right now the remake of the old games in HD - that's what this gen is about in GTA, even if it only ends up being IV/LC then V/wherever.

 

If you remember, when you crashed a plane in SA, it disappeared. It was sh*t. The in-flight collision with water was innacurate (square), it was a pretty crazy setup.

 

That being said, planes DO still exist because it's still the EXACT same game, with a new rendering engine, and advancements to what you see (and advancements to what is not yet seen/as yet unused: those "orphan files" from SA are still in the game, just not in the IV build)

 

Same thing with trains: When you derailed those, those sucked. It was cool the first time, it felt weight, but if we wanted to still be stealing trains, it would A: still look like sh*t (since the game we got was delayed, let alone all the features not even in IV but present in SA) or B: We'd still be waiting to play this game.

 

You gotta take the good with the bad. New York City is gray and brown and dull and so is the season of Fall. That makes it PERFECT for the first place in a game since you work through color palletes throughout the life of a console (don't argue, go look at old nintendo games compared to the last ones made - it wasn't a limitation, it's called 'sprinkling it on a bit at a time' - castlevania, zelda, these got more and more colorful, so did mario, ust like III, then VC was vibrant, then SA had that and then some in between - this will be no different)

 

That's why the water is black and you can't see through it (just like GTA III) and the next game will introduce blue waters of the south etc etc

 

They gave us WAY more in IV than we got in III - the next game will knock your socks off, I'm sure of it, just like Vice did.

 

Also, you won't get planes until they figure out how to fake you out

 

The game can't render that fast - in the end, "too small" is JUST A COVER UP for "Our engine can't swap files that fast" - fact. In SA, the motion blur wasn't motion blur at all, they compounded the image so you could not see the LOD switch to close range model (disable it or play MTA with it disabled, you'll see why they "blurred" it at high speed IN THE WAY that they did anyhow)

 

So, basically, this game was made mainly for XBox 360 while still supporting PS3 and PC, and the two consoles mentioned (and most PCs) have a hard enough time not having pop up as it is, and SA had popup until it was legacy and 2 or 3 generations of video cards passed. Flying a plane in THIS game would suck because there would be missing sh*t all over the place, all the time.

 

They need more time to optimize the rendering before they can put a real plane in there (key word is real, like the cars, the ped animations, etc) that isn't just an old SA handling line (like those you can use in GTA IV to fly cars like planes - flying an SA plane in IV would ruin the HD experience - no plane takes off that easily, they want it to be REAL, so we have to wait )

 

If you want to fly A plane, you'll get one in like a year. If you want to fly many planes, see you in 2012 (when I expect the Final Build to be done).

Not true at all. The water was black, because that is what color the water is there. And planes would not work in Liberty City. It is too small. There's no reason for a plane when you can already fly across the city in 60 seconds in a helicopter. You think with all the content and detail in this game, that they didn't have enough technology to put in airplanes or make blue water? If so you are sadly mistaken.

Um, I'm CORRECT. lol. I don't care if you make excuses, it's ROCKSTAR who gave you the marketing drivel and excuses in the first place - ALL the marketing is another way of saying "That sh*t ain't gonna be ready for this game..."

 

JUST LIKE it wasn't ready for III...

 

And water IS black in GTA III, and you can't see through it, and you WILL be able to see right down to the bottom of VICE CITY's water, which IS the next game, and if it's not, San Andreas IS.

[shinsta312]

 

And water IS black in GTA III, and you can't see through it, and you WILL be able to see right down to the bottom of VICE CITY's water, which IS the next game, and if it's not, San Andreas IS.

I personally don't think that R* will follow the same location pattern again and again and again.

 

Plus, a couple of articles mentioned that GTA IV's Liberty City was about the same filesize as San Andreas for the PS2/XBOX/PC, and I don't know if they can put anything three times that big (at least on 360 dual-layered DVD disk). The PS3 might handle that though.

[supermortalhuman]

What does that tell you about the future of this game series on the console that got special treatment this time?

 

Exactly.

 

Besides, Microsoft is going to digital, just like Sony is. You won't be gaming on a disc.

[Rockteur]

Enough with the planes. I seriously want the space shuttle now. I want to crash it into the middle of Star Junction, fuel tank still attached.

[scarp1996]

I think when you jump out of a helicopter, it'll have a diffrent animation where luis will jump out the body doors instead of the front doors

 

Any thoughts?