Rucke Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 I'm so glad I can stop trying to convince people that it was Vic who died in the beginning of Vice City. It has finally been confirmed. I was always 99% sure it was him. R.I.P Vic. He was a great prontagonist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 I somehow knew it was Vic. Quite sad. I hoped it was Pete but I knew it was not. The butcher, the baker, time to meet your maker Tell you to your face, you ain't nuttin but a faker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trexmaster Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 (edited) Quite of story. Now let's get it straight: >Diaz's men killed Vic; >Tommy killed Diaz and his men with the help from Lance; >Tommy gains power, Lance doesn't; >Lance feels like a fool around Tommy, Tommy said to him that he's a good friend; >Lance get mad and he says his last "speech" of friendship with Tommy on the phone; >Tommy prepared at the end to face the Forelli's along with Lance; >Lance betrayed Tommy and joined the Forelli family; >Tommy killed Lance and Sonny; >Tommy wins and he's the new Godfather in Vice City. Now... let's go back a little with 2 years: > Victor Vance is the leader of the Vance family in Vice City Stories; > He has 2 brothers: Peter "Pete" Vance and Lance "Dance" Vance; > The Vance family doesn't want to deal with drugs; > He's brother, Pete, gets ill and he goes to the hospital; > Vic promise Pete for money to pay the bills for hospitalization; > Vic goes to VC for a job; > Then, after a couple of "rounds", he misses a chance; > After that, he now works for "players" to gain money; > Lance makes Vic to help him for some guys, still, the primary reasons for money for Pete; > Vic discovers that he and lance got into sh*t with the Mendez brothers; > After fights, properties and making allies, Vic now can compete with the Mendez; > The Mendez brothers kidnap Louise and kills her; > Vic goes and fights with one of the Mendez and he wins; > Afterwads, he gets help from Diaz for the ultimate revenge; > Vic kills the last Mendez and his ex-sergeant; > Although the fight is over, Vic doesn't have the exact cash for Pete; > Lance appears and makes Vic to sell the 20 K's; > Vic wants to chill out a while before sell it; > Vic wins; > After 2 years he gets killed by his old friend Diaz. Now let's concentrate on the future: > We wait the next GTA under the name "GTA V"; > The "V" doesn't suppose to be a number but the letter; > We know that "V" stands for "Vance", "Victor" and "Vice; > There are some rumors that "V" will occur in Vice City; > The protagonist (my oersonal opinion) will be: ... PETER "Pete" VANCE; > He wants revenge because he heard that the new and powerful player, Tommy Vercetti, killed his brothers; > He still need to pay some bills; > When Victor and Lance left Vice City in 1984, Vic gaved Pete the money he got for some bills; > Pete knows from his brothers that they'll hae the rest of the money when they'll sell it to the Forelli family; > The money never camed...; > Pete "get's up" and wants to go in VC for some explanations; > He then learns some false stories that Tommy killed his brothers; > Pete learns this kind of informations from some old enemies of Tommy; > Then Pete, helps those old enemies for money and power so he can fight with the Vercetti family; > After he steals, destroys and kills, Pete along with Keith, Joe and Fred (the old enemies etc etc ) gained money and power; > Tommy's power in VC grows weaker and finally he prepares for the last stand ( ) ; > Pete kills the last men adn he reaches Tommy; > After shots and shots Tommy gets hit in the kidneys; > Tommy talks and convince Pete that he didn't had any resons to kill his brothers (except that back-stabbing prick Lance), Pete approves that thing about Lance; > After that, Pete saves and droves Tommy out of the mansion because Joe and Fred sent men to raid the mansion and kill Tommy; > Pete and Tommy lay low at the docks (aka. Phil's old, OLD place); > Day by day, Tommy explains what really happened with his brothers and their connections with him; > Having the guilt for blackmail, Pete offers his help to Tommy; > Although Tommy accepts the help he says that Pete isn't "the collector and badass" like him or like his old brother Vic; > Tommy then asks Pete to find his old boys from the 80's; > Pete tries and gets the help from Mitch Baker, Umberto Robina's nephew Domingo, Autie Poulet's nephew Hennrick (of course the cuban and the haitian gangs are still at war), Zack, Aaron Willbur and Morgan Koumar; (don't ask why these names, there authentical) > Everyone has a mission to help Tommy to raise back to power: Mitch Baker ->> other connectios with other bands and gangs ==> more men for the fight Domingo and Hennrick ->> their job is to protect the bridges from the west side and the protection for Tommy ==> protection Zack ->> he's good with cars, vans, trucks and other automobiles, he a awesome engineer when it comes to add different things on cars ( Ex. of add-ons at a car: mines, oil, machine guns etc) ==> Vercetti's best engineer and car modeler Aaron Willbur ->> he has the job to sabotage different systems from the city under the name Keith (you got it right?) ==> hacker Morgan Koumar ->> he's the new man who supplies Tommy with guns. After the disappearance of Phil, Tommy was forced to buy weapons from Morgan ==> the gun supplier > When all was settled there were some problems too: --Baker couldn't met with some old buddies of his because of his own rivalry with others. And he can't make connectios with his own friends. --Morgan Koumar couldn't supply Domingo and Hennrick with guns because he himself was a seller of guns for bothof them under different names. And if the cuban and haitian gang know that Morgan supplies them both... well it is a big probem. --Zack has problems with the police because he had one or two things with stolen cars and blood money. When he coulded make prison, Tommy camed to him in 2005 to offer him liberty under one condition: if he agrees to help him. But now that Tomm isn't at power, Zack can't risk. --Aaron Willbur has problems with the police like Zack but in his case he has deep problems. Like zack, Tommy offered Aaron liberty if he works for him as his main hacker for stealing money and other bad things. But now that Tomm isn't at power, Aaron can't risk. An dnot to mention he hasn't a super computer for helping Tommy raise back to power. > Pete helps Baker, Koumar, the cuban and the haitians, Zack and Willbur; > After everything was made, the war can begin; > Pete got Tommy back healthy and stronger; > After other fights, Tommy and Pete prepare for the last battle; > The assault isn't easy because Keith, Joe and Fred bought a building as the new headquarters. Something alike like the Mendez tower in VCS but it was like a big hotel; > Tommy and Pete need army supply; > The plan was this: Tommy prepares a groud attack with his men and two tanks AND Pete prepares an air attack with the Hunter; > The first one who should shot is Pete because he must destroy the cannons and anti-armor guns from the roof and from the ground so the tanks can attack more easly; > After that part was completed, Pete waits Tommy on the roof with the explosives so they can blow an meta door; > The men from the ground enter the building and place some charge to blow up the building itself for good; > Tommy makes way and heads to the roof; > After he meets Pete, they plan the charge; > They attack; > In a spot, Tommy and Pete must separate so they can cover more zones; > Pete, makes way and faces Keith, Joe and Fred. Keith has an MP-10, Joe has an flamethrower and Fred a bazooka and an Ak-74; > Without the help of Tommy, Pete kills Keith, Joe and fred but he gets wounded himself. Very bad; > Tommy evetually reaches to a higher level but he sees the bodies and Pete; > Tommy hurls to Pete to stay alive, he'll come right away but he doesn't want help; > Pete says to Tommy that he's sorry he downgraded and "helped those bastards". He 'should hurry up... agh!... the building can collapse in any minute; > Tommy ignores Pete and tries to find a door or a hole but no use; > Eventually, Tommy runs to the exit with some tears inhis eyes; > When he reaches out he sayd in his mind "Goodbye... brother. I'm sorry..."; > Then the building blows; > After the explosive, the dust settled, leaving a big mountain of debris; > Tommy got his power back but he was angry and sad at the same time. Why? Pete was hisonly TRUE friend; > The future for the Vercetti gang and Tommy Vercetti himself is unknown; > Many had changed after that battle in Vice City. THE END Any resembles with the names in the writing above is simillarly to the name, character or history of any persons is entirely coincidental and unintentional. Okay? It was just a personal story. So calm down... Edited September 20, 2009 by Trexmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGBeast Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 For those of you saying you don't want to play as Vic because he dies, grow up. Things in life aren't about the destination, they're about the journey. After all, if things were about the destination, life wouldn't be worth living in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trexmaster Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 For those of you saying you don't want to play as Vic because he dies, grow up. Things in life aren't about the destination, they're about the journey. After all, if things were about the destination, life wouldn't be worth living in the first place. First of all, we choose what we want to believe in this case. You believe he didn't die, fine. But I... I want to be a realistic guy. Second, grow ups are those who accept the reality. I don't feel ofended but other may be. Soo... careful. Third, yes. It's a journey. But it should be a journey which embrace reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC. Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 For those of you saying you don't want to play as Vic because he dies, grow up. Things in life aren't about the destination, they're about the journey. After all, if things were about the destination, life wouldn't be worth living in the first place. YO YOU THINK THIS A GAME SON?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowaah Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 > The Mendez brothers kidnap Louise and kills her; Damn, why you did spoil it all? Long time ago i didn't knew about that Lance is a traitor, and now you. I hate you! And btw, your made-up story sucks. No offence, but this sounds like kids bullsh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBasket Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I got bored about halfway through that story, what happens at the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trexmaster Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 *Request lock Reasons: some wise guys want to show their "wisdom" for my free personal comment. but they don't know that if they don't like it... "-SHUT DA' f*ck OFF!" is the best cure for their spiritual problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_Loco Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Wow, after a long time and lots of speculations they finally admitted to the crime. I was thinking of asking on that site about the so-called secrets left in San andreas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordy. Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Wow, just read Trexmaster's post... Nice effort! But wasn't Lance always working with the Forellis secretly? I recall Sonny in the intro cutscene saying he'll "send somebody down there, keep an eye on him" ? I'm assuming he meant Lance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpetDweller Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Wow, just read Trexmaster's post... Nice effort! But wasn't Lance always working with the Forellis secretly? I recall Sonny in the intro cutscene saying he'll "send somebody down there, keep an eye on him" ? I'm assuming he meant Lance. All Sonny says is "we send someone down to do the dirty work for us." I'm sure he's just referring to Tommy. As for the topic, I never doubted it was Vic that died in VC, but I was coming around to the idea that they had introduced Pete so people could make up their own mind. I guess they don't have a choice now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinx Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 one question....why did the straightest protagonist joined his brotha the nut in the opening of vc?? i think its bcuz of the purple haze mission.. he wanted a second experience of drugs?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Colt Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Thank god. People can stop ignoring logic and coming up with deluded and ridiculous theories. I mean, it said it right it right there on the VC site, several years before VCS was even conceived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinx Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 was your reply a insult?why does someone doesnt read the first part.i have a question!.that was i said.and sorry i get ticked of cuz of someone who insults me.ridiculous!? okay deluded!? no!good day everybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedWarrior Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Justin, Leo Colt wasn't even talking to you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_side646 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 that's kind of sad. Vic was a badass, and he was probably the most well-meaning and good hearted of all the gta protagonists...yet, he dies and sociopaths like tommy vercetti & CJ get rich as hell and live happily ever after. I won't really call Tommy and CJ as complete sociopaths. They had some good in them too and CJ was most probably the second most well meaning character after Vic. Not to mention, talking about sociopaths and not including Claude is just wrong. lol j/k On Topic: Yeah, it is kinda sad. I myself always thought that Vic was the guy who got gunned down (so many things point this out) but also secretly wanted it to be Pete. RIP Vic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darius940304 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I'm sorry that Vic died in the begining of VC,as he was my favorite and still is my favorite character from the GTA series,as for LAnce,glad I got him in VC(shooted him even after he was dead) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal3 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Noo, I hoped it was Pete. Vic was my favourite GTA protagonist .. damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgtafan Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 (edited) You are all retarded. He may of got wasted but you know he just woke up in the hosiptal 6 hours later. lol But seriously Vic is the only GTA protagoist that we know how he died...Well unless you want to be a prick and say we know how Claude Speed /Claude died. Drive By. But we don't know for sure. Edited October 6, 2009 by bobgtafan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermortalhuman Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 (edited) No sh*t? He's been dead since the opening scene of Vice City. lol. He's the guy hanging on the meet hook... HE's out of the picture at that very point, which was the only reason the mob went to VC at all... It's been official, since before VCS came out And no way, Rockstar! You effed up Rockstar PR team, better call NORTH and get your FACTS STRAIGHT before you publish CRAP like this! Even this is wrong... Rockstar is Wrong. Vic is the guy on the meat hook, not the guy who gets gunned down... which is also in the same scene... so either they are confused and thought the question was about the meat-hook-man, or they are just plain Wrong. If you accept this official story, than you must explain the black man hanging on the hook - NOTHING is there "for no reason" or for "atmosphere" - rockstar just got it wrong, 100%, right before your very eyes. Vic is the man hanging on the hook. Watch the video a few posts up - the first few seconds of the game shows vic, dead, on a meat hook, with the same haircut as VCS. The guy who gets shot in the beginning of the game is not vic vance, vic is dead before fade in. Edited October 6, 2009 by supermortalhuman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trexmaster Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 No sh*t? He's been dead since the opening scene of Vice City. lol. He's the guy hanging on the meet hook... HE's out of the picture at that very point, which was the only reason the mob went to VC at all... It's been official, since before VCS came out And no way, Rockstar! You effed up Rockstar PR team, better call NORTH and get your FACTS STRAIGHT before you publish CRAP like this! Even this is wrong... Rockstar is Wrong. Vic is the guy on the meat hook, not the guy who gets gunned down... which is also in the same scene... so either they are confused and thought the question was about the meat-hook-man, or they are just plain Wrong. If you accept this official story, than you must explain the black man hanging on the hook - NOTHING is there "for no reason" or for "atmosphere" - rockstar just got it wrong, 100%, right before your very eyes. Vic is the man hanging on the hook. Watch the video a few posts up - the first few seconds of the game shows vic, dead, on a meat hook, with the same haircut as VCS. The guy who gets shot in the beginning of the game is not vic vance, vic is dead before fade in. I ask your opinion: how the hell did Vic Vance got into the mafia's business soo deep that Foreli ordered he would be... in a hook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armando mendez Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 i think vic isnt dead yet i think its pete because vic doesnt speak columbian acsent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal3 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 i think vic isnt dead yet i think its pete because vic doesnt speak columbian acsent! It's official, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbunit2007 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 (edited) Vic isn't dead. Pete is dead. They are completley different. Just take a effin look. And it's not official. Gimmie a official ROckstar site stating that and then I will believe. Edited October 15, 2009 by jbunit2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbunit2007 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Offficial? It's not official. lmao. Until someone shows me a official Rockstar website I aint beleiving sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noru Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Rockstargames.com Its the first question they answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermortalhuman Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) No sh*t? He's been dead since the opening scene of Vice City. lol. He's the guy hanging on the meet hook... HE's out of the picture at that very point, which was the only reason the mob went to VC at all... It's been official, since before VCS came out And no way, Rockstar! You effed up Rockstar PR team, better call NORTH and get your FACTS STRAIGHT before you publish CRAP like this! Even this is wrong... Rockstar is Wrong. Vic is the guy on the meat hook, not the guy who gets gunned down... which is also in the same scene... so either they are confused and thought the question was about the meat-hook-man, or they are just plain Wrong. If you accept this official story, than you must explain the black man hanging on the hook - NOTHING is there "for no reason" or for "atmosphere" - rockstar just got it wrong, 100%, right before your very eyes. Vic is the man hanging on the hook Watch the video a few posts up - the first few seconds of the game shows vic, dead, on a meat hook, with the same haircut as VCS. The guy who gets shot in the beginning of the game is not vic vance, vic is dead before fade in. I ask your opinion: how the hell did Vic Vance got into the mafia's business soo deep that Foreli ordered he would be... in a hook? It's perfect because THAT is and already WAS the fate of vic vance: His brother kept hooking him in all through his game, obviously throughout after the game, and thus his fate was ended on a hook a fitting end for a man who just couldn't stop the streets from calling and hooking him in... If you look at THAT model, and look at the guy who got shot by the chopper, you can clearly see that the man on the hook bears way more resemblance than the old fat non-english tard who gets shot in the game. Rockstar is wrong lul. They got him out of the way, then Forelli started talking about the next move, which is where we come into the game - the cuban who gets shot isn't vic, vic is the same profile as the hook-man, if THAT was a fat bald non-english dude, then it could be debated. It however can not be debated because the man on the hook looks like VCS vic, and the man who gets shot looks like an old fat bald non-english person. Vic has ON a Vance Suit in while he's on the hook - he's dressed like Lance for petes sake, remember they got the suits? Edited October 16, 2009 by supermortalhuman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Everett Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 (edited) Nevermind the comment that I posted, it is in fact Victor Vance. You can even see Lance in the helicopter. Edited October 19, 2009 by GTA4 Niko Bellic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermortalhuman Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Lance in the helicopter, SOMEONE ELSE gets shot, and VIC is the DEAD GUY on the damn MEAT HOOK. PLEASE just LOOOOOOOK at it LOLOLOLOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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