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johnwelshmorris5

So R* gave in to the masses! bout time!

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johnwelshmorris5

Agreed that we have been wanting these features for a while now? i think R* new they upset alot of people dulling down the game and with saints row 2 out it seems R* are going back to their old roots.

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There's nothing left to do then be happy about it smile.gif

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Agreed that we have been wanting these features for a while now? i think R* new they upset alot of people dulling down the game and with saints row 2 out it seems R* are going back to their old roots.

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What Roots? Fun? GTA games are always Fun. They just wanted to give it a more realistic tone... which I didn't mind at All! Because GTA IV was Great. cool.gif Now it's Greater.

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It's simple marketing, if they added all these features in vanilla IV then what could they add to make you buy the DLCs? R* may be in the business of 'fun', but it is a business like any other (all about the money)

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It's simple marketing, if they added all these features in vanilla IV then what could they add to make you buy the DLCs? R* may be in the business of 'fun', but it is a business like any other (all about the money)

Yea, it wasn't for the people, it was about f*cking profit. Let's be honest here.

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Darrel

Next time. Both systems should get DLC. If its exclusive to the 360 next time around that's going to suck.

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JOSEPH X

It seems more like an end of show party to me, going out with a bang, so to speak.

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Cilogy
It seems more like an end of show party to me, going out with a bang, so to speak.

That's true. Atleast that's what USA Today also said. They said the journey for GTA IV is going out with a bang. I guess this means we can expect information on the next GTA during 2010.

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Gta Guy 108

The biggest things that I cannot wait for is the fight club and the story. I will spend many long hours in fight club I can just see it now ha ha.

 

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By the way, does anyone know the name of that song used in the trailer?

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The biggest things that I cannot wait for is the fight club and the story. I will spend many long hours in fight club I can just see it now ha ha.

 

EDIT:

 

By the way, does anyone know the name of that song used in the trailer?

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=423921

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Antonio1911
It's simple marketing, if they added all these features in vanilla IV then what could they add to make you buy the DLCs?  R* may be in the business of 'fun', but it is a business like any other (all about the money)

Yea, it wasn't for the people, it was about f*cking profit. Let's be honest here.

W/E 1600 MS Points?!?! via 20$? or 40 something for the 2 in a liberty city stories bundle. is well worth it orly.gif

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It seems more like an end of show party to me, going out with a bang, so to speak.

This.

 

Although I kind of understand what Dan Houser meant. Niko was small time. Johnny had big gang warfare. Luis has major heists. I love the Vice City vibe they've got going there though.

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Guanxi

I'm not sure that I agree with the position that R* have compromised themselves by in anyway by *giving in* as it were to any form of real or perceived pressure in lights of fan complaints on message boards.

 

They always create games they want to play and we're all basically welcome to come along for the ride but they don't even have a forum for christ's sake. GTA IV was very much their baby as is BoGT.

 

They simply wanted BoGT to have a different feel to GTA IV which is completely understandable; even from a business perspective. San Houser mentions in USA Today that the design ethos this time was consciously geared towards classic action movies with more wacky less focused/looser gameplay mechanics similarly akin to San Andreas which is also a product of having more time to spend experimenting with the game design.

 

The extent of fan involvement is basically mute. I don't think they give a flying f*ck what anybody-else thinks and that's what makes them great.

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It's simple marketing, if they added all these features in vanilla IV then what could they add to make you buy the DLCs?  R* may be in the business of 'fun', but it is a business like any other (all about the money)

Yea, it wasn't for the people, it was about f*cking profit. Let's be honest here.

W/E 1600 MS Points?!?! via 20$? or 40 something for the 2 in a liberty city stories bundle. is well worth it orly.gif

I'm saying, don't believe the hype that it's for the fans, because 1) The PS3 people won't be enjoying this anytime soon if not at all 2) You're actually paying more for some things that should've been in the game originally. They only took those extras out so it would seem like more later on.

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It's simple marketing, if they added all these features in vanilla IV then what could they add to make you buy the DLCs?  R* may be in the business of 'fun', but it is a business like any other (all about the money)

Yea, it wasn't for the people, it was about f*cking profit. Let's be honest here.

W/E 1600 MS Points?!?! via 20$? or 40 something for the 2 in a liberty city stories bundle. is well worth it orly.gif

I'm saying, don't believe the hype that it's for the fans, because 1) The PS3 people won't be enjoying this anytime soon if not at all 2) You're actually paying more for some things that should've been in the game originally. They only took those extras out so it would seem like more later on.

I dobut that somewhat. It's possible but I think it's more likely R* didn't have time to put these things in at first ( they already had to delay the game) so they ended up delaying the unneeded features to the DLC content. I think they put the parachutes and things in TBoGT because it fit more and because they scheduced it for later so they would have more time to prefect things like parachuting or the new weapons or whatever esle will be in game. With the MASSIVE profits they make from GTA 4 and the fact that they have ALREADY been paid for the Mircosoft content regardless if it had new things or not they just didn't have time.

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It's simple marketing, if they added all these features in vanilla IV then what could they add to make you buy the DLCs?  R* may be in the business of 'fun', but it is a business like any other (all about the money)

Yea, it wasn't for the people, it was about f*cking profit. Let's be honest here.

W/E 1600 MS Points?!?! via 20$? or 40 something for the 2 in a liberty city stories bundle. is well worth it orly.gif

I'm saying, don't believe the hype that it's for the fans, because 1) The PS3 people won't be enjoying this anytime soon if not at all 2) You're actually paying more for some things that should've been in the game originally. They only took those extras out so it would seem like more later on.

I dobut that somewhat. It's possible but I think it's more likely R* didn't have time to put these things in at first ( they already had to delay the game) so they ended up delaying the unneeded features to the DLC content. I think they put the parachutes and things in TBoGT because it fit more and because they scheduced it for later so they would have more time to prefect things like parachuting or the new weapons or whatever esle will be in game. With the MASSIVE profits they make from GTA 4 and the fact that they have ALREADY been paid for the Mircosoft content regardless if it had new things or not they just didn't have time.

If you actually believe that I feel sorry for you.

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bobgtafan
It's simple marketing, if they added all these features in vanilla IV then what could they add to make you buy the DLCs?  R* may be in the business of 'fun', but it is a business like any other (all about the money)

Yea, it wasn't for the people, it was about f*cking profit. Let's be honest here.

W/E 1600 MS Points?!?! via 20$? or 40 something for the 2 in a liberty city stories bundle. is well worth it orly.gif

I'm saying, don't believe the hype that it's for the fans, because 1) The PS3 people won't be enjoying this anytime soon if not at all 2) You're actually paying more for some things that should've been in the game originally. They only took those extras out so it would seem like more later on.

I dobut that somewhat. It's possible but I think it's more likely R* didn't have time to put these things in at first ( they already had to delay the game) so they ended up delaying the unneeded features to the DLC content. I think they put the parachutes and things in TBoGT because it fit more and because they scheduced it for later so they would have more time to prefect things like parachuting or the new weapons or whatever esle will be in game. With the MASSIVE profits they make from GTA 4 and the fact that they have ALREADY been paid for the Mircosoft content regardless if it had new things or not they just didn't have time.

If you actually believe that I feel sorry for you.

...look they only had what? Three years to make the most detailed virtual world ever made, create a TOTALLY new physics engine, write thousands of hours of spricits, go through thousands of hours of testing, spricit thousands of A.I and they were even late! With all of that behind my side of the argument what are you suggesting? They held out on content for monetary reasons even though they already got paid?

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buffalosoulj4h20

Dude, they had 4 years, and it doesn't take four years to also add parachuts and weapons. Either you're a sucker that believes everything or you won't admit that they delayed the extras to put it into the DLCs. It's fine what they are doing it's just business, but don't tell they did it for the fans. Hellllll no.

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bobgtafan
Dude, they had 4 years, and it doesn't take four years to also add parachuts and weapons. Either you're a sucker that believes everything or you won't admit that they delayed the extras to put it into the DLCs. It's fine what they are doing it's just business, but don't tell they did it for the fans. Hellllll no.

And with that comment you have proved you know very little about video game delevopment.

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Care to back that up since you know everything? Tell me where it takes 4 years to add weapons and parachutes.

 

My claims are about common sense. The PS3 players who bought the PS3 versions aren't getting their DLC, even though they have been loyal. Rockstar just took the 50 mill, you know why? Because f*ck the fans, they want money. They don't give a sh*t about you. You can have your parachute, as long as you pay that 20 dollars.

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Care to back that up since you know everything? Tell me where it takes 4 years to add weapons and parachutes.

 

My claims are about common sense. The PS3 players who bought the PS3 versions aren't getting their DLC, even though they have been loyal. Rockstar just took the 50 mill, you know why? Because f*ck the fans, they want money. They don't give a sh*t about you. You can have your parachute, as long as you pay that 20 dollars.

 

detailed virtual world ever made, create a TOTALLY new physics engine, write thousands of hours of spricits, go through thousands of hours of testing, spricit thousands of A.I and they were even late! With all of that behind my side of the argument what are you suggesting

 

Hell at this point all I have to do is repeat myself huh?

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numdmind
It's simple marketing, if they added all these features in vanilla IV then what could they add to make you buy the DLCs?  R* may be in the business of 'fun', but it is a business like any other (all about the money)

Yea, it wasn't for the people, it was about f*cking profit. Let's be honest here.

There's nothing wrong with making profit on something. That's the backbone of our civilization. Capitalism is f*cking great. We're not socialists yet, so every hard-working individual is entitled to their own pursuit of money.

 

R*'s also not in it to f*ck people around. They always have delivered quality, no matter how many of you wanted to hate GTA IV because of it's so called lack of features. GTA IV was still perfect, and they delivered on their end.

 

If you don't like capitalism, then you're in the wrong life.

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buffalosoulj4h20

@gtafan: So your own mouth is legit? dozingoff.gif I'm talking about a real source.

 

@numdmind: Firstly, read before you post. I said it's business, but don't act like they are doing it more for their fans and not for the love of money. that's what people are confusing here. Secondly, don't even turn this into a political issue. I don't want to start with a conservative loser.

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Niko Bellend

What he's saying is right.

 

I've just got a part time job, but im not working that job to provide a service. Im working that job for me! To get my money.

 

This is exactly what Rockstar is doing, holding back to make more profit. Getting their money.

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bobgtafan
@gtafan: So your own mouth is legit? dozingoff.gif I'm talking about a real source.

 

@numdmind: Firstly, read before you post. I said it's business, but don't act like they are doing it more for their fans and not for the love of money. that's what people are confusing here. Secondly, don't even turn this into a political issue. I don't want to start with a conservative loser.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1955256/Gr...-York-City.html

That level of detail took years.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161711

I rather beleive R* than some random person online really.

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johnwelshmorris5
What he's saying is right.

 

I've just got a part time job, but im not working that job to provide a service. Im working that job for me! To get my money.

 

This is exactly what Rockstar is doing, holding back to make more profit. Getting their money.

But in this job R* has is to entertain a mass of fans not make themselfs happy they made a movie based on a game(like the feel of gta 4).

 

lets be honest san andreas has the biggest fan base of any gta,not Gta 3...now im thinking they(R*) get the picture.

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buffalosoulj4h20
@gtafan: So your own mouth is legit?  dozingoff.gif  I'm talking about a real source.

 

@numdmind: Firstly, read before you post. I said it's business, but don't act like they are doing it more for their fans and not for the love of money. that's what people are confusing here. Secondly, don't even turn this into a political issue. I don't want to start with a conservative loser.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1955256/Gr...-York-City.html

That level of detail took years.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161711

I rather beleive R* than some random person online really.

And ofcourse you would go to Rockstar because you're a sucker, so keep being a sucker, man. If it weren't for people like me and others who demand not being taking advantage of, suckers like you would be paying for sh*t games because you believed everything your favorite game developer told you.

 

About your sources. What? They took pictures in NYC? To take pictures all over Manhattan takes 4 years? What does that prove at all?

 

Yes they delayed it, and they couldn't add parachutes and weapons because of that? Where is the source in that?

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johnwelshmorris5
@gtafan: So your own mouth is legit?  dozingoff.gif  I'm talking about a real source.

 

@numdmind: Firstly, read before you post. I said it's business, but don't act like they are doing it more for their fans and not for the love of money. that's what people are confusing here. Secondly, don't even turn this into a political issue. I don't want to start with a conservative loser.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1955256/Gr...-York-City.html

That level of detail took years.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161711

I rather beleive R* than some random person online really.

And ofcourse you would go to Rockstar because you're a sucker, so keep being a sucker, man. If it weren't for people like me and others who demand not being taking advantage of, suckers like you would be paying for sh*t games because you believed everything your favorite game developer told you.

 

About your sources. What? They took pictures in NYC? To take pictures all over Manhattan takes 4 years? What does that prove at all?

 

Yes they delayed it, and they couldn't add parachutes and weapons because of that? Where is the source in that?

I second this.

 

why release DLC when it could of been added to the original in the first place?

 

and of course thats not forgetting the ps3 users who have been abused by R*.

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Care to back that up since you know everything? Tell me where it takes 4 years to add weapons and parachutes.

 

My claims are about common sense. The PS3 players who bought the PS3 versions aren't getting their DLC, even though they have been loyal. Rockstar just took the 50 mill, you know why? Because f*ck the fans, they want money. They don't give a sh*t about you. You can have your parachute, as long as you pay that 20 dollars.

f*ck the DLC. We get Agent. Also for anyone wondering Agent has been confirmed to be the next gta of sorts. Also like it was said. R* went out with a bang. A bang for who? A bang for M$. That can only mean one thing. That Sony-R* deal wasn't just for Agent. It was for all future R* games. What makes me think this? Well if it wasn't R* would of gave the PS3 some DLC awhile back. Think about it. Would you want to go out with a bang if you were stopping something? Like sometimes when people are getting fired/quit their job they usually do something stupid/something people will remember for awhile. Think about it guys. R* are done with M$ so they give them something to remember.

 

 

And besides. GTA IV is dead to me now. Hell the DLC wont even bring it back. Bring on Red Dead Redemption muthafukas.

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Niko Bellend
What he's saying is right.

 

I've just got a part time job, but im not working that job to provide a service. Im working that job for me! To get my money.

 

This is exactly what Rockstar is doing, holding back to make more profit. Getting their money.

But in this job R* has is to entertain a mass of fans not make themselfs happy they made a movie based on a game(like the feel of gta 4).

 

lets be honest san andreas has the biggest fan base of any gta,not Gta 3...now im thinking they(R*) get the picture.

Yes, but it works the same, I have to make customers happy, otherwise im not paid. Business is business all the same.

 

And by making the fans happy, rockstar get paid.

 

Anyway by the looks of things BOGT will sell a hell of a lot better than TLAD.

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