shinsta312 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 We're more than likely going to see Elizabeta Torres. She has connections to so many people and gangs that it'd be impossible not to have her featured in The Ballad of Gay Tony. But will we do missions for her? or will just see her in a cameo somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidus119 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I would think she would get more then a cameo, but not as much exposure as she got in TLAD. With her being one of the top drug connections in Liberty City, it would seem only natural for her to have a role in some form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Capone Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 she may be mentioned at least once unless there's something i don't know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Mitch_Baker Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 She'll likely be in it, but not sure if we'll do missions for her or against the Torres cartel...Depends where ND3 gets their sh*t, and if their competitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XAF226 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Maybe. It's hard to tell because of Niko and Johnny's relationship with her but look at the relationship between both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude4Catalina Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Liz seemed to have links all over LC, so chances are will wee her. She is friends with Packie, and works with Johnny, but its doubtful they know eachother. Luis might be friends with her and not get caught up in the business ide of things like Niko and to some extent Johnny did, Luis might just run a few little jobs due to his loyalty to ND3. Just because of his possible friendship with Liz. Another person I can see making an appearance is Ray Boccino. Yes Luis has ties to the Ancelotti's, through Gay Tony and Gracie, but its doubtful Gracie cares who her friends work with, because its not really her business, and its not as if Tony is a made man within the Ancelotti's, he's a business asocciate at the most. Gravelli didnt seem to care that Niko had previously worked with the Pegorino's, so maybe old man Ancelotti or whoever it is that runs the Ancelotti's work really care who does a job, as long as it gets done, IF he is one of Luis's employers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk-in-Drublic Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I more than hope so, I loved her, thought she was a brilliant character with a strong presence. She'd definately deliver some good missions like she did in TLAD & IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMathers3501 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I more than hope so, I loved her, thought she was a brilliant character with a strong presence. She'd definately deliver some good missions like she did in TLAD & IV. Yeah, Elizabeta was awesome. She was good people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The N. Bellic Man Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Elizabeta Torres is a strong character and I liked her, but it would be stupid to do missions for her once again. A cameo maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Mitch_Baker Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I didn't like Elizabeta Torres until she shot Manny, then I was smitten As for Ray I assumed he'd be in it as well. He's the main power player for Peg, and despite his reputation for incompetence he seems to have a hand in everyone's business (like Torres herself). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsta312 Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Liz seemed to have links all over LC, so chances are will wee her. She is friends with Packie, and works with Johnny, but its doubtful they know eachother. Luis might be friends with her and not get caught up in the business ide of things like Niko and to some extent Johnny did, Luis might just run a few little jobs due to his loyalty to ND3. Just because of his possible friendship with Liz. Another person I can see making an appearance is Ray Boccino. Yes Luis has ties to the Ancelotti's, through Gay Tony and Gracie, but its doubtful Gracie cares who her friends work with, because its not really her business, and its not as if Tony is a made man within the Ancelotti's, he's a business asocciate at the most. Gravelli didnt seem to care that Niko had previously worked with the Pegorino's, so maybe old man Ancelotti or whoever it is that runs the Ancelotti's work really care who does a job, as long as it gets done, IF he is one of Luis's employers. If you remember, Teddy Benevidez was an associate with the Pegorinos through Ray. We might see him in at least one appearance. Of course, Teddy was holding out on Ray, and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalosoulj4h20 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I think Playboy will be more involved since he's mad close to Northwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirPsychoSexy Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Didn't Mallorie tip of Niko about where Roman was after he got kidnapped? I'm thinking maybe since Luis might be an associate of Bulgarin he knows this and tells Elizabeta who tells Mallorie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VercettiTheNiter Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I hope we see her downfall. Like we do one mission for her and the second and final mission for her is right after she kills Manny and Jay and you have to help her clean up. Or maybe you get to do missions for her while she is in prison and maybe see a cameo of Gerry McReary. Or finally we see her at one of Gay Tony's clubs as she is bisexual or atleast a lesbian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugorohden Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Elizabeta is the center off drugs, bet she will deal do different kind of gangs! Just as shinsta said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aChaChaCha Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Could be some possible connectiong between Andreas, her...man-maid? Anywhoo I dunno if Elizabeta was to appear alongside Luis i'd expect it could possibily be through Andreas being a fellow dominican and probably even an ex-member of Luis' street gang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafioso86 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Could be some possible connectiong between Andreas, her...man-maid? Anywhoo I dunno if Elizabeta was to appear alongside Luis i'd expect it could possibily be through Andreas being a fellow dominican and probably even an ex-member of Luis' street gang. I'm pretty sure Andreas is Boricua like Elizabeta... the accents are pretty similar (DR and PR), but they aren't identical. I don't really think Elizabeta will have much of a role in this... maybe a mention of her somewhere, or maybe maybe a brief cameo, but I doubt more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabaannz Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Have another look at "Snow Storm"... it's the beginning of Liz's downfall, as she's dealing with associates of Jacob's (will he play a role in the new DLC?) and when you go as Nico to get the coke, you take out members of the AOD, and another gang which looks alot like members of NDDD... so we could be working against her? She is the main drug trafficer for LC, so I can only assume that the NDDD would have to associate with her in some way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EzaH Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 $10 says she won't even be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aChaChaCha Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Could be some possible connectiong between Andreas, her...man-maid? Anywhoo I dunno if Elizabeta was to appear alongside Luis i'd expect it could possibily be through Andreas being a fellow dominican and probably even an ex-member of Luis' street gang. I'm pretty sure Andreas is Boricua like Elizabeta... the accents are pretty similar (DR and PR), but they aren't identical. I don't really think Elizabeta will have much of a role in this... maybe a mention of her somewhere, or maybe maybe a brief cameo, but I doubt more than that. Well being honest I wouldn't be able to spot many differences. Pardon my racial ignorance lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafioso86 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Could be some possible connectiong between Andreas, her...man-maid? Anywhoo I dunno if Elizabeta was to appear alongside Luis i'd expect it could possibily be through Andreas being a fellow dominican and probably even an ex-member of Luis' street gang. I'm pretty sure Andreas is Boricua like Elizabeta... the accents are pretty similar (DR and PR), but they aren't identical. I don't really think Elizabeta will have much of a role in this... maybe a mention of her somewhere, or maybe maybe a brief cameo, but I doubt more than that. Well being honest I wouldn't be able to spot many differences. Pardon my racial ignorance lol hah... no worries man, I can barely tell myself and I'm a Spanish major, but some other people on here have said the same thing. As far as in the beginning of Snow Storm the same thing about the accents has been said about the latino gangsters doing the deal with the AoD... that they sound more Boricua. Ofcourse that might not mean anything as Johnny and Terry, not to mention some of the Alderney cops have a completely wrong accent for someone from the part of Jersey that Alderney is based on. You might, and it's a big might, meet someone that talks like them in like west Jersey near the border with Pennsylvania (the accent is more like what you would hear in the southern US or Appalachian mountains), but in the parts of Jersey near New York people definitely talk more like Phil Bell, Jimmy P, Jim Fitzgerald, Billy Grey, Brian, etc. The other thing though is that in IV the same peds were used to represent the Spanish Lords and NDD in the one mission they appeared in, so it's really hard to say who these guys were, but I'd be leaning toward Spanish Lords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabaannz Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 The other thing though is that in IV the same peds were used to represent the Spanish Lords and NDD in the one mission they appeared in, so it's really hard to say who these guys were, but I'd be leaning toward Spanish Lords. There are a few threads on gang identification, and they mention that the coloured beads some wear around their neck identify their gang affiliation... The guys in "Snow Storm" were wearing red and black beads... the Spanish Lords wear Gold and Black, but there's no mention of the NDDD, maybe because they don't seem to be extremely distinct in GTA IV... if they're anything like the Norht Holland Hustlers, they'd be wearing gold chains, so it looks like it is the Lords in "Snow Storm"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGLuke Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 If she is in BOGT, i could see her handing out missions over the phone from inside prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweatyPa1ms Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 ^ l Elizabeta is my aunt and GTA is awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aChaChaCha Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 If she is in BOGT, i could see her handing out missions over the phone from inside prison. Yah that seems like it would work well , could act as like the mini-missions like you'd get from Stubbs once you've completed his 2 story missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGLuke Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 If she is in BOGT, i could see her handing out missions over the phone from inside prison. Yah that seems like it would work well , could act as like the mini-missions like you'd get from Stubbs once you've completed his 2 story missions. Yeah there's gunna be some type of telephone missions like in GTA4: The texan: Has niko kill everyone as a hitman Stubbs: He hands out orders to johny So there's bound to be a mysterious caller that trys to get in contact with luis, and my bet is that it's elizebeta and maybe she even disguises her voice to sound more like a man lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsta312 Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 Have another look at "Snow Storm"... it's the beginning of Liz's downfall, as she's dealing with associates of Jacob's (will he play a role in the new DLC?) and when you go as Nico to get the coke, you take out members of the AOD, and another gang which looks alot like members of NDDD... so we could be working against her? She is the main drug trafficer for LC, so I can only assume that the NDDD would have to associate with her in some way... It might be ND3, but chances are they are the Spanish Lords, due to their giant presence on all four boroughs and them being a powerful gang. But IF it was indeed ND3 that was doing the deal with the AOD, than maybe Luis was the one that took the coke from her (In the opening cutscene for "The Snow Storm", she mentioned that someone that Jacob introduced to her ripped her off). Which might also mean that Luis and Little Jacob knew each other as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGLuke Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Have another look at "Snow Storm"... it's the beginning of Liz's downfall, as she's dealing with associates of Jacob's (will he play a role in the new DLC?) and when you go as Nico to get the coke, you take out members of the AOD, and another gang which looks alot like members of NDDD... so we could be working against her? She is the main drug trafficer for LC, so I can only assume that the NDDD would have to associate with her in some way... It might be ND3, but chances are they are the Spanish Lords, due to their giant presence on all four boroughs and them being a powerful gang. But IF it was indeed ND3 that was doing the deal with the AOD, than maybe Luis was the one that took the coke from her (In the opening cutscene for "The Snow Storm", she mentioned that someone that Jacob introduced to her ripped her off). Which might also mean that Luis and Little Jacob knew each other as well. Yes, Spanishlords have more turf then any other gang in GTA4 so why the hell wouldnt they play a role in Bogt? Chances are they'll be getting reskinned as well due to there pressence in the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafioso86 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Have another look at "Snow Storm"... it's the beginning of Liz's downfall, as she's dealing with associates of Jacob's (will he play a role in the new DLC?) and when you go as Nico to get the coke, you take out members of the AOD, and another gang which looks alot like members of NDDD... so we could be working against her? She is the main drug trafficer for LC, so I can only assume that the NDDD would have to associate with her in some way... It might be ND3, but chances are they are the Spanish Lords, due to their giant presence on all four boroughs and them being a powerful gang. But IF it was indeed ND3 that was doing the deal with the AOD, than maybe Luis was the one that took the coke from her (In the opening cutscene for "The Snow Storm", she mentioned that someone that Jacob introduced to her ripped her off). Which might also mean that Luis and Little Jacob knew each other as well. Yes, Spanishlords have more turf then any other gang in GTA4 so why the hell wouldnt they play a role in Bogt? Chances are they'll be getting reskinned as well due to there pressence in the story. Yeah I've wondered if they might play some role as well... we don't know a lot about the Northwood Dominican Drug Dealers yet, but I see two options. If they are in fact a proper gang that goes by like ND3 or whatever and are based on the Trinitarios or DDP they might be at war with the Spanish Lords. But they also might be nothing more than a small group of Dominican drug dealers from Northwood, in which case maybe they would want to work with the Spanish Lords or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsta312 Posted September 12, 2009 Author Share Posted September 12, 2009 Have another look at "Snow Storm"... it's the beginning of Liz's downfall, as she's dealing with associates of Jacob's (will he play a role in the new DLC?) and when you go as Nico to get the coke, you take out members of the AOD, and another gang which looks alot like members of NDDD... so we could be working against her? She is the main drug trafficer for LC, so I can only assume that the NDDD would have to associate with her in some way... It might be ND3, but chances are they are the Spanish Lords, due to their giant presence on all four boroughs and them being a powerful gang. But IF it was indeed ND3 that was doing the deal with the AOD, than maybe Luis was the one that took the coke from her (In the opening cutscene for "The Snow Storm", she mentioned that someone that Jacob introduced to her ripped her off). Which might also mean that Luis and Little Jacob knew each other as well. Yes, Spanishlords have more turf then any other gang in GTA4 so why the hell wouldnt they play a role in Bogt? Chances are they'll be getting reskinned as well due to there pressence in the story. Yeah I've wondered if they might play some role as well... we don't know a lot about the Northwood Dominican Drug Dealers yet, but I see two options. If they are in fact a proper gang that goes by like ND3 or whatever and are based on the Trinitarios or DDP they might be at war with the Spanish Lords. But they also might be nothing more than a small group of Dominican drug dealers from Northwood, in which case maybe they would want to work with the Spanish Lords or something. Chances are, ND3 is a small group that pretty much live up to their name. If you check Willy Valerio's profile on the LCPD database, it mentions that he's trying to compete with the other drug crews in North Holland (mainly the North Holland Hustlers) and East Holland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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